Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network

[mescalito]

I wonder what are some 6 people good for in this stage when Ohad is the only developer. I could understand 1-2, but 6?!

[ohad]

I wonder what are some 6 people good for in this stage when Ohad is the only developer. I could understand 1-2, but 6?!

there's a lot to be done, and it'll become much clearer when the new plans will be revealed, once i finish putting them in understandable form

[brigabriela470]

Can anyone show the steps to store the ágora tokens on a bitcoincore wallet?

better use omnicore wallet (from omnilayer.org). anyway you can receive tokens into an address generated by bitcoincore and then import that address into omni wallet

Ohad, are you the only developer working on this coin?

yes, but that's true only very temporarily.

It seems like it is very large in scope. Perhaps, larger than maidsafe? And they have worked on it for years. Curious on your thoughts.

the whole point of tau's initial development is to supply very few features that doesn't even matter. what matters is that we can collaboratively program the system *after* it's alive. from there we will build the state of the art altogether. to reach this critical mass doesn't take much, it needs to be a tiny yet perfect engine

yes its needed but after a complete thinking over it not only now.

[MrWhiteBites]

The period of Agoras ICO is too long. Ohad should set a deadline for his fund-raising and destroy the unsold Agoras.

If you Agoras investors support that, pls urge Ohad to do it.

How many coins are to be sold?

How many coins have been sold?

When will the ICO end...  or is it a case of getting free money forever?   
As i see now developments done here, just a load of fluff.

then i read Ohad you are working on whitepaper, so ZERO developments are ongoing?

And in the 2+ years, what have been achieved?   Seems like very little,
but plenty of people have bought into this "project"

Is there a BITCOIN ADDRESS to show where all the payments went to?
Id really love to see it. But a fat chance of that, it looks like we are all getting played for suckers.

Also ICO COuntdown, i had trust in your reviews, your undying support for this coin is seriously going to REK
your reputation after your undying support for this project. 

[infovortice2013]

see strong hands shareholders i have weeks waiting for the down ,, no one dump man is amuzing

 

[ohad]

The period of Agoras ICO is too long. Ohad should set a deadline for his fund-raising and destroy the unsold Agoras.

If you Agoras investors support that, pls urge Ohad to do it.

How many coins are to be sold?

How many coins have been sold?

When will the ICO end...  or is it a case of getting free money forever?  
As i see now developments done here, just a load of fluff.

then i read Ohad you are working on whitepaper, so ZERO developments are ongoing?

And in the 2+ years, what have been achieved?   Seems like very little,
but plenty of people have bought into this "project"

Is there a BITCOIN ADDRESS to show where all the payments went to?
Id really love to see it. But a fat chance of that, it looks like we are all getting played for suckers.

Also ICO COuntdown, i had trust in your reviews, your undying support for this coin is seriously going to REK
your reputation after your undying support for this project.  

the public address is the very address that you sent your btcs to.
please continue the comedy, so refreshing after many hours of technical work..
hey and dont forget to use both your two bitcointalk accounts!

[Conic]

The period of Agoras ICO is too long. Ohad should set a deadline for his fund-raising and destroy the unsold Agoras.

If you Agoras investors support that, pls urge Ohad to do it.

How many coins are to be sold?

How many coins have been sold?

When will the ICO end...  or is it a case of getting free money forever?  
As i see now developments done here, just a load of fluff.

then i read Ohad you are working on whitepaper, so ZERO developments are ongoing?

And in the 2+ years, what have been achieved?   Seems like very little,
but plenty of people have bought into this "project"

Is there a BITCOIN ADDRESS to show where all the payments went to?
Id really love to see it. But a fat chance of that, it looks like we are all getting played for suckers.

Also ICO COuntdown, i had trust in your reviews, your undying support for this coin is seriously going to REK
your reputation after your undying support for this project.  

the public address is the very address that you sent your btcs to.
please continue the comedy, so refreshing after many hours of technical work..
hey and dont forget to use both your two bitcointalk accounts!

Hi. Mr. Ohad. I respect you. And I am not the socketjack of MrWhiteBites. If you want to accuse me or MrWhiteBites, pls give an evidence.

I am an investor of Agoras, I hope you get your success.

[yuyu123]

Hey guys, I did not invest in tau, but I like the concepts. Poisonous comments make me sad.  Is there also a github with working code that I can experiment with? That makes us all better! Thx thx!

the github is https://github.com/naturalog/tauchain
there's code but the design has changed, we'll need a rewrite

It seems that nobody is working on the code for years. Almost no single code line at the last year.

[ohad]

The period of Agoras ICO is too long. Ohad should set a deadline for his fund-raising and destroy the unsold Agoras.

If you Agoras investors support that, pls urge Ohad to do it.

How many coins are to be sold?

How many coins have been sold?

When will the ICO end...  or is it a case of getting free money forever?  
As i see now developments done here, just a load of fluff.

then i read Ohad you are working on whitepaper, so ZERO developments are ongoing?

And in the 2+ years, what have been achieved?   Seems like very little,
but plenty of people have bought into this "project"

Is there a BITCOIN ADDRESS to show where all the payments went to?
Id really love to see it. But a fat chance of that, it looks like we are all getting played for suckers.

Also ICO COuntdown, i had trust in your reviews, your undying support for this coin is seriously going to REK
your reputation after your undying support for this project.  

the public address is the very address that you sent your btcs to.
please continue the comedy, so refreshing after many hours of technical work..
hey and dont forget to use both your two bitcointalk accounts!

Hi. Mr. Ohad. I respect you. And I am not the socketjack of MrWhiteBites. If you want to accuse me or MrWhiteBites, pls give an evidence.

I am an investor of Agoras, I hope you get your success.

Conic, i didnt mean that you're the other bitcointalk account of mrwhitebytes. his second account is "vintage bazaar"

[Conic]

The period of Agoras ICO is too long. Ohad should set a deadline for his fund-raising and destroy the unsold Agoras.

If you Agoras investors support that, pls urge Ohad to do it.

How many coins are to be sold?

How many coins have been sold?

When will the ICO end...  or is it a case of getting free money forever?  
As i see now developments done here, just a load of fluff.

then i read Ohad you are working on whitepaper, so ZERO developments are ongoing?

And in the 2+ years, what have been achieved?   Seems like very little,
but plenty of people have bought into this "project"

Is there a BITCOIN ADDRESS to show where all the payments went to?
Id really love to see it. But a fat chance of that, it looks like we are all getting played for suckers.

Also ICO COuntdown, i had trust in your reviews, your undying support for this coin is seriously going to REK
your reputation after your undying support for this project.  

the public address is the very address that you sent your btcs to.
please continue the comedy, so refreshing after many hours of technical work..
hey and dont forget to use both your two bitcointalk accounts!

Hi. Mr. Ohad. I respect you. And I am not the socketjack of MrWhiteBites. If you want to accuse me or MrWhiteBites, pls give an evidence.

I am an investor of Agoras, I hope you get your success.

Conic, i didnt mean that you're the other bitcointalk account of mrwhitebytes. his second account is "vintage bazaar"

I see. I am so sorry.

[MrWhiteBites]

The period of Agoras ICO is too long. Ohad should set a deadline for his fund-raising and destroy the unsold Agoras.

If you Agoras investors support that, pls urge Ohad to do it.

How many coins are to be sold?

How many coins have been sold?

When will the ICO end...  or is it a case of getting free money forever?  
As i see now developments done here, just a load of fluff.

then i read Ohad you are working on whitepaper, so ZERO developments are ongoing?

And in the 2+ years, what have been achieved?   Seems like very little,
but plenty of people have bought into this "project"

Is there a BITCOIN ADDRESS to show where all the payments went to?
Id really love to see it. But a fat chance of that, it looks like we are all getting played for suckers.

Also ICO COuntdown, i had trust in your reviews, your undying support for this coin is seriously going to REK
your reputation after your undying support for this project.  

the public address is the very address that you sent your btcs to.
please continue the comedy, so refreshing after many hours of technical work..
hey and dont forget to use both your two bitcointalk accounts!

UNEDITED MESSAGE I SENT TO OHAD:  (he will confirm this message is unedited also)

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locked coins
« Sent to: ohad on: 01 November 2016, 09:19:56 »
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Hello Ohad,

I have just read this reply you made.

" if a buyer regrets the lock they can speak with me"

Reading what is going on and seeing how you are the only guy on the project, i think its going to take more like 5+ years before anything is released.

I invested 36BTC not long ago, is it possible to get a refund or come to some agreement, i am sorry, but i have little faith anything will get done, the main problem you seem unable to work with anyone else and no one else will work with you.

I hope you do not mind me being blunt, i have a bad way with words.

......................................

unfortunately i do not have the replies, i delete my inbox messages every month.
Long story short, i received 150,000 tokens. for my 36 bitcoin investment.

So i am sure people here can understand my frustration and anger at this project, most of you probably invested less than 1 Bitcoin. Its a bit different when you put $36,000 into a project that looks like it will turn out to be a total sham.

Yes i have 2 accounts, big deal, one is for other coins and one is for other coins.  Many of you have have more than 2 accounts.


So, i am not hiding anything, i have been honest.


As for "the public address is the very address that you sent your btcs to." i have no idea what the hell that was TBH, its some odd site i have never used before. And you sent the tokens to my bittrex account.

please continue the comedy Well you are the only one laughing here, you have had how much $250,000 investment if not much more and what do investors have to show for it? A coin thats been Pumped and Dumped on Bittrex and has the bare minimum vol each day.

Glad you are able to laugh...  because myself and many other investors have nothing to laugh about here.

[ohad]

if you have real criticism then go for it. but just trying all kinds of nonsense like the last one (the public address) is really funny. for the two times (ever) you asked me something, i was positive and you agreed right away. so what's the problem?

[Cibervision]

36 btc Get the buabuambulance and shut up please. Sell all your coins and make a great dump for the believers in Ohad. I want buy cheap agoras.

Ohad come back to your code and work hard, dont Feed the trol.

36btc we cant have all, Bitcoin this Year rocket to 2000 dolars, but me and others must hold ágoras , ohad must finish his job and then , the party start.

With yours comments dont help tauchain, be proactive, search developers as ohad and meet them if  you are worried, sure it's very Very hard, i a  web developer , if my help is needed i ofer it.

[ohad]

Being able to unlock tokens (upon agreement with Ohad) never meant getting a refund, right?  My understanding was/is that one could unlock his/her tokens to be able to trade, but will knowingly receive less tokens because locked tokens got an extra bonus.

right

[maco144]

Are HMC and the former staff working on another coin?

What is Ohad's work ethic if he cant get a whitepaper out in months - this seems like vaporware. I am not going to sell my investment in this as I still believe in the concept and it still has the chance to moon more than any other coin if the tauchain can get created.

[Cibervision]

Ohad , if bittrex is hacked or delist ágoras tokens, we lose all coins?
And if omniwallet  close or be hacked too we lose the ágoras too?

Its very unsafe depend on thirds , what is the best option to save ágoras Now?
And one moré question , the first core released will bring a wallet?
many thanks

[Jiddu]

Ohad , if bittrex is hacked or delist ágoras tokens, we lose all coins?

Never store more money on an exchange than necessary (for trading).
If there's a breach, chances are good you'll at least lose some.

And if omniwallet  close or be hacked too we lose the ágoras too?

Omni interacts with the Bitcoin network. Though I'm not exactly sure what'll happen should all nodes disappear, I think you'll still have access to your assets (by priv. key).
But popular projects rely on it, and should something bad happen, I'm sure there will be alternatives.

Its very unsafe depend on thirds , what is the best option to save ágoras Now?

You could say the same about ETH, WAVES, XCP ..
Best option: Omni Core wallet

[ICOcountdown.com]

The period of Agoras ICO is too long. Ohad should set a deadline for his fund-raising and destroy the unsold Agoras.

If you Agoras investors support that, pls urge Ohad to do it.

How many coins are to be sold?

How many coins have been sold?

When will the ICO end...  or is it a case of getting free money forever?  
As i see now developments done here, just a load of fluff.

then i read Ohad you are working on whitepaper, so ZERO developments are ongoing?

And in the 2+ years, what have been achieved?   Seems like very little,
but plenty of people have bought into this "project"

Is there a BITCOIN ADDRESS to show where all the payments went to?
Id really love to see it. But a fat chance of that, it looks like we are all getting played for suckers.

Also ICO COuntdown, i had trust in your reviews, your undying support for this coin is seriously going to REK
your reputation after your undying support for this project.  

Ask Ohad about the time when a recruiter from Google reviewed his source and asked him to work for them

Development takes time. If you can develop this sort of tech let me know, the BTC price has increased, I understand that you want liquidity and that you want to make funds. I get it, I truly do. This project is extremely large in scope and my reputation has always been backing serious developers and computational scientists. Pascal was also a one man team that I backed heavily because I always focus on innovation. Ohad is trying to get more people on board to speed up the process but if you want it excecuted correctly the old saying goes "if you want something done right do it yourself". I have even said to Ohad, I do not know who can even help with the development, let alone just normally understand the project. It is extremely high level.

[SEOcrypto]

The period of Agoras ICO is too long. Ohad should set a deadline for his fund-raising and destroy the unsold Agoras.

If you Agoras investors support that, pls urge Ohad to do it.

How many coins are to be sold?

How many coins have been sold?

When will the ICO end...  or is it a case of getting free money forever?   
As i see now developments done here, just a load of fluff.

then i read Ohad you are working on whitepaper, so ZERO developments are ongoing?

And in the 2+ years, what have been achieved?   Seems like very little,
but plenty of people have bought into this "project"

Is there a BITCOIN ADDRESS to show where all the payments went to?
Id really love to see it. But a fat chance of that, it looks like we are all getting played for suckers.

Also ICO COuntdown, i had trust in your reviews, your undying support for this coin is seriously going to REK
your reputation after your undying support for this project. 

Ask Ohad about the time when a recruiter from Google reviewed his source and asked him to work for them

Development takes time. If you can develop this sort of tech let me know, the BTC price has increased, I understand that you want liquidity and that you want to make funds. I get it, I truly do. This project is extremely large in scope and my reputation has always been backing serious developers and computational scientests. Pascal was also a one man team that I backed heavily because I always focus on innovation. Ohad is trying to get more people on board to speed up the process but if you want it excecuted correctly the old saying goes "if you want something done right do it yourself". I have even said to Ohad, I do not know who can even help with the development, let alone just normally understand the project. It is extremely high level.

Completely agree.  This project is the equivalent to 'shooting the moon.'  We're venturing into unknown territory.  A lot of smart people have told Ohad what he's trying to accomplish is impossible - and it very well might be.

While I can understand the frustration of early investors, this is what you signed up for.  Everything could change with the release of the whitepaper.  Or not

[ICOcountdown.com]

The period of Agoras ICO is too long. Ohad should set a deadline for his fund-raising and destroy the unsold Agoras.

If you Agoras investors support that, pls urge Ohad to do it.

How many coins are to be sold?

How many coins have been sold?

When will the ICO end...  or is it a case of getting free money forever?   
As i see now developments done here, just a load of fluff.

then i read Ohad you are working on whitepaper, so ZERO developments are ongoing?

And in the 2+ years, what have been achieved?   Seems like very little,
but plenty of people have bought into this "project"

Is there a BITCOIN ADDRESS to show where all the payments went to?
Id really love to see it. But a fat chance of that, it looks like we are all getting played for suckers.

Also ICO COuntdown, i had trust in your reviews, your undying support for this coin is seriously going to REK
your reputation after your undying support for this project. 

Ask Ohad about the time when a recruiter from Google reviewed his source and asked him to work for them

Development takes time. If you can develop this sort of tech let me know, the BTC price has increased, I understand that you want liquidity and that you want to make funds. I get it, I truly do. This project is extremely large in scope and my reputation has always been backing serious developers and computational scientests. Pascal was also a one man team that I backed heavily because I always focus on innovation. Ohad is trying to get more people on board to speed up the process but if you want it excecuted correctly the old saying goes "if you want something done right do it yourself". I have even said to Ohad, I do not know who can even help with the development, let alone just normally understand the project. It is extremely high level.

Completely agree.  This project is the equivalent to 'shooting the moon.'  We're venturing into unknown territory.  A lot of smart people have told Ohad what he's trying to accomplish is impossible - and it very well might be.

While I can understand the frustration of early investors, this is what you signed up for.  Everything could change with the release of the whitepaper.  Or not

If crypto is "verge" technology. Then this is the "verge" of "verge" technology.