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1161  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 on: September 15, 2023, 10:40:55 PM
I read this article about how Ngannou left his former life (which was in poverty while he worked in sand mines in his home country of Cameroon) and migrated illegally across Nigeria, Niger, Mali, Algeria, Morocco, Spain and France in the hope of becoming a professional boxer. The story presented is that the journey took a year and he ended up being helped by Fernand Lopez (in France) who convinced Ngannou of taking up MMA.

For those reasons alone, Fury will not find it easy to defeat Ngannou but overall you would expect him to win. It will be the biggest day in the life for Ngannou therefore he will be confident he can win but the smart money is on Fury.

The last time I watched a Mixed martial art fighter try boxing it was very disappointing because both fighters didn't care how it went down because they were getting paid handsomely and really failed to put up a good show imo...

But for this one, I think it will be different because  Francis Ngannou uses his fists mostly to knock out his opponents which will make this match exciting..and him having a Tyson in his corner makes it even more exciting as he will learn new tricks to his arsenal in trying to take down the Gypsy King in his own sport and that power punch will come in handy...

Its been awhile since we had a proper heavy weight fight and this one is a must watch!
1162  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024 on: September 15, 2023, 10:21:52 PM
Are you suggesting Both team to score for both games?
I think all 8 teams in the following games will score at least one goal:

Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Liverpool
Manchester United vs Brighton and Hove Albion
West Ham United vs Manchester City
Bournemouth vs Chelsea


These are the game taking place tomorrow 16th September 2023:

Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Liverpool
Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace
Fulham vs Luton Town
Manchester United vs Brighton and Hove Albion
Tottenham Hotspur vs Sheffield United
West Ham United vs Manchester City
Newcastle United vs Brentford


If any teams near the top of the table drop points, it will allow Chelsea and Arsenal time to assess and to catch up because both teams will play on Sunday. I would call the results for tomorrow this way:

Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-2 Liverpool
Aston Villa 2-0 Crystal Palace
Fulham 1-0 Luton Town
Manchester United 2-2 Brighton and Hove Albion
Tottenham Hotspur 2-0 Sheffield United
West Ham United 2-1 Manchester City
Newcastle United 1-0 Brentford
1163  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024 on: September 13, 2023, 11:55:35 PM
This City side has shown that the team can survive without any key player. KDB being off since week 1 and the team is still on top of the league.
If he is not playing for Manchester City this weekend, there is a big chance West Ham United could win the game and inflict their first defeat of the season.

Yeah..  I guess we'll just have to see in the next couple of matches with the next one vs Bournemouth a very critical one.  I mean we've seen it a lot of times before, we expect a good club to finally turn things around but it's like catching a falling knife.  You thought you bought the dip but forgot about the dip to the dip to the dippity dip.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Anyway, what do you guys think of these bets...  LFC and Spurs parlay at 1.84.  Fulham and under 4.5 goals combo at 1.88.  Arsenal and under 4.5 goals combo at 1.85.  And here's a fun one, Man United double chance and BTTS combo at 1.94.  Grin
Chelsea play on Sunday but before that all-important games take place on Saturday. What are you thinking about the odds? The way Manchester United are playing they will concede goals therefore it is safe to say Brighton will score at Old Trafford. Even if Liverpool might stutter away at Wolves, you have to look at Tottenham and think they should easily dismantle Sheffield United and take maximum points.
1164  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Thodex: Turkish Crypto Exchange Owner Runs Off After Stealing $2 Billion on: September 11, 2023, 08:10:34 PM
Thodex was one of the exchanges I was also using in the past. However I withdrew all of my savings on Thodex because they had too much promotion and advertisement policy in the recent times. This disturbed me.
If I remember correctly, he was using famous people including models and celebrities on billboards for advertising. Also, there were far too many lavish parties where celebrities were attending. It seemed to be designed to allow Özer and his friends to have a good life enjoying themselves with investors money while the investors were funding it.

The punishment given to Özer is the heaviest one that can be given in Turkey as there is no death punishment. Despite this it wouldn't be a big surprise for me if Özer is released once again by a repentance law in 10 years. I can say that our judicial system is terrible. After examining the judgment in detail I'm planning to make another post about how they calculated 11196 years.
Even if he repents it will not allow victims to rebuild their lives. Having said that, there will probably be an appeal by his lawyers therefore this might not be the last we have heard about Özer.
1165  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024 on: September 10, 2023, 08:17:00 PM
Well, I expect Manchester City to score but whether they win the game is a different matter because I expect West Ham United to score too  Grin

About Pochettino, after he was appointed manager players should not be brought in unless he (as manager) wants to work with them. If the board did not get deals over the line that is different to them imposing players on a manager. These are rumours but I think he is the sort of manager that would probably walk away if he was being forced to pick certain players or buy/sell against his wishes.

@JollyGood from what I had read all the player’s were bought at the whims of Todd and he didn’t consult Poch on the arrival’s at least that’s what the rumour was and Poch has never made any statements saying that all his targets were secured so I’m going to assume that he was kept out of the loop. Furthermore while West Ham have been playing well they’ll not be able to stop the Halland express who’s only aim is to score and score so I expect City to win comfortably and Halland to continue his goal scoring streak.
1166  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammers Claiming To Refund Users affected By the Stake Hack on: September 10, 2023, 05:53:14 PM
It's amazing how they've managed to get so many followers on their fake Twitter account in such a short time. No doubt, they are fake followers, but it could still trick someone who's not used to these kinds of scams.
That is standard play enacted upon by certain scammers because if they show they have followers, they feel it will help them when they try to come across as a genuine business. In all honesty, having followers and subscribers probably does help when it comes to wanting to fool people on a social media platform.

One single scam and it pays for both the badge and the followers cost by x10 at least, worth trying.
Buying 1000 followers for $10 (or less) is a tiny price to pay by the scammers if it helps them in their end objective. Definitely worth them trying.
1167  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Be careful!!! VITALIK BUTERIN'S ACCOUNT X WAS HACKED on: September 10, 2023, 05:40:31 PM
As you mentioned we have not heard of data belonging to famous people being leaked, it raises a question about why private exchanges via DM have not been released from hacked X accounts. I suppose there is a difference between hacking to steal funds and hacking to steal private messages with intent to blackmail.

Hackers that target X seem to show no interest in accessing DMs which could be a lucrative business for them. If the hack is server based and not related to a password being used, that could explain part of the issue but it is surprising.

What surprises me is that if accounts are so easily hacked, how do they protect their data? That is to say, we have not heard of any famous person’s data being leaked or even a report of the loss of currencies, so the matter is a little confusing as it is either a lack of interest on their part or a problem with all social media applications.
1168  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammers Claiming To Refund Users affected By the Stake Hack on: September 10, 2023, 03:50:45 PM
Thank you for bringing this to the forum, I had no idea about this scam. I am sure Stake would have been made aware at some point therefore a special onus has to lay with Stake to ensure they notify X to remove the offending fake account. Without doubt, X also has to accept responsibility if they do not take swift action after they have been informed.

FAKE STAKE ACCOUNT

https://twitter.com/StakeRefund?s=20


ORIGINAL STAKE ACCOUNT

https://twitter.com/Stake?s=20


Stay vigilant and safe out there..
1169  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024 on: September 09, 2023, 10:15:13 PM
Taking advantage of the fact that they are talking about Chelsea and Pochentino, I keep wondering if it was really Pochentino who chose these new Chelsea signings, I could be wrong but I see that Chelsea spent a lot of money on very wrong signings, in this squad, they don't win the premier league this season or next season. Chelsea's problem remains the same since Tuchel's time: spending a lot of money on signings that don't make sense. I would agree if they were making good hires, but they are not. and looking at the top teams in the premier league and chelsea's position and performance, i would say that chelsea has no chance of winning the premier league this and any other season with this squad. Pochentino is a good coach, so I find it strange that he made these signings
Any signings made after Pochettino was appointed as Chelsea manager really have to be players he wanted. If a technical director of any football club buys players he thinks are suitable for the squad without the knowledge or agreement of the manager, then that is a recipe for disaster. A manager can only coach players that he believes in and wants to get the best out of. They are spending a lot of money therefore at some point there have to be trophies involved otherwise jobs will be in danger.

in the next game, manchester city will be tested by west ham, which is having a good start to the season, in 4 games west ham has not lost in any game, it has conceded 4 goals, in the 4 games in which it has conceded 1 goal in each game and has scored in each game, and looking at manchester city i see that in this game manchester city will win, but it will be a difficult game for manchester city that in the last 2 games conceded a goal in each of them, the defense of manchester city will be under pressure in this game against west ham. Will West Ham suffer their first defeat or will they get a draw?

if manchester city loses in this game, then arsenal, liverpool, tottenham, if they win, will go ahead and things will start to get complicated for manchester city, who know well that this season they have more rivals than last season that only they had the arsenal and even so it wasn't easy for the city to become champions. That's why it's important for City to win games and manage to maintain a considerable distance in the table if they want to be champions again.
West Ham United will have home advantage against Manchester City, both teams are playing very well therefore it will be the game to watch this weekend. How does 1-0 or 2-3 sound? It could go either way  Grin
1170  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin forum app store on: September 09, 2023, 04:30:57 PM
Now that you volunteered to embark on the project, do have any approximate date or time in mind when we can expect to see the application?

Guys, don't worry:

1) I want to develop a mobile application with open-source code for the Apple Store.
2) I want to find a team of developers.

Okay, I'll just make it and show you the application  Smiley
1171  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024 on: September 09, 2023, 04:14:25 PM
I think Pochettino has a mindset which enables him to get past any criticism directed at himself and his team from the media. The issue is about what happens if it is from the fans or from the board because at that point he will be tested. He was loved by the Southampton and Tottenham fans but he did not receive adulation at PSG. Now he is at Chelsea which is a club that has very impatient fans but I expect they will appreciate what he brings to the club.

The previous Chelsea owner hired and fired managers at record speed but the new owner is looking for long term stability. He made a mistake when he chose Potter but appointing Pochettino is not a mistake.

Do you think one day we will see "Boehly Out" banners? Highly unlikely but you never know. The man has invested heavily to first buy the club and then invested in players without hesitation. Every team around the world would happily accept to be funded to the amount he has funded Chelsea.

Chelsea needs to do it now or the negative momentum for them is gonna be a btch.  The negativity is gonna creep in and spread to the whole squad and before you know it fans are flying 'Poch Out' banners at home fixtures.  Cheesy  Kidding about the Poch Out banners but we've seen what happened to Tuchel and Potter...  Two capable managers who could win the league imho.

So yeah, their next match should be a good get back on track spot even if it's an away fixture.
1172  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] [banned mixer] - Premium Mixing | Sig Campaign | Up to $210/W on: September 09, 2023, 10:37:45 AM
Username: JollyGood
BTC SegWit address: bc1qt99sfk9jv9tx550c42nmxgf84lwrxuwm2l5jmd
1173  Economy / Reputation / Re: JollyGood is trusted by - and question. on: September 08, 2023, 03:06:02 PM
Maybe sending a PM to discuss what he wanted to achieve would have been a better start than seeing him starting at gutter level with this thread. I could be wrong but it seems he opted for the latter because he is managing several campaigns and probably thinks he can exert influence over the majority of members who trust a member he does not like.
After his previous experience, I wouldn't blame Royse for not sending unsolicited PMs. He didn't want to go down that road again.
What previous experience are you referring to? Which road did he not want to go down again?

His only option was to start a thread.
How can you state that with certainty?

That is your opinion, you are entitled to it. I have my opinion and I am entitled to it. Since the comment was addressed to Royse777 he should be allowed to respond with his opinion because his opinion could differ from yours or mine. Maybe he should be given time to respond what he thinks rather than others (including you) replying what they think he is thinking, when in the end he can think of the reply himself if he chooses to reply.

As a participant in Royse Sig management, the highlighted portion of your post did not sit right with me. You're implying that individuals in Royse's management (we) are involved in a conspiracy and that our judgement is clouded and biassed. It's insulting to think about it that way.
You misconstrued my comment, at no point were campaign participants mentioned. Relax Grin

The goal of this thread is to find common ground, not for both of you to start new dramas. Don't you think there's a need to reevaluate your tag if the majority of the DT says it's crossedline?
The goal of this thread is/was determined by the OP not by you or what your opinion is. You do not know what his goals are, he knows what his goals and opinions are and he should be given ample time to post them if he wishes to do it because he was the one who started the thread with the intention of creating new drama.

According to you it is to find common ground but according to the OP he started the thread effectively asking for members to exclude me from their trust on the basis he does not agree with a negative tag he received following the lead from a known troll who posts my trust list asking members to exclude me whenever any opportunity arises. That does not help the situation.

As for the second part, you stating the goal of the thread is not for both of us starting news dramas, that comment does not sit right with me and it is insulting to think that you equated the two. My first post in this thread was post #35. There are a total of 41 posts in this thread at the time of writing and this is post #41 which also happens to be just my second post. I added no drama here. That sort of imbalance does not help the situation and I do not appreciate it therefore do not start implying that this thread was created on a equal footing, it was not.

The drama was already playing out by him from moment he created the thread 35 posts before I made my first of two posts in this 41 post thread.

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I am approachable and open to discussion with anybody on any subject but for now I am out of this thread unless I am advised something significant has been posted that requires my reply.
1174  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Thodex: Turkish Crypto Exchange Owner Runs Off After Stealing $2 Billion on: September 08, 2023, 02:09:27 PM
So another update: it looks like the CEO was sentenced to.... 11,000 years in jail. Yes, you read that right[1] (and so did his two siblings). The article didn't really mention anything about the stolen funds or the affected users.

[1] https://decrypt.co/155522/thodex-ceo-gets-11000-year-jail-sentence-over-2b-crypto-exchange-collapse
Thank you for the post, I did not know the sentencing was today. First and foremost the mind absolutely boggles first that the 11,196 year jail sentence.

Second, the numbers do not add up when you look at the numbers given for defendants and the numbers acquitted and the numbers jailed. If they started off with 21 defendants, there is no way the numbers add:

"The eventual trial saw 21 defendants facing up to 40,564 years in prison. 16 of the 21 defendants were acquitted and four of the seven persons jailed were freed due to a lack of evidence."

Good. Let him rot.

See, that's how you dish out justice to exchange exit-scammers.

Now let's see what happens to SBF next.
Özer and his siblings had around $2 billion in the exchange when it collapsed. Many Turks used the exchange as a substitute to traditional banks because the Lira was extremely weak at the time. Around 400,000 investors became victims overnight.
1175  Economy / Reputation / Re: Obsessive Conduct by "BenCodie" Over A Neutral Tag on: September 08, 2023, 07:24:09 AM
Now, after a deeper look the feedback history of BenCodie it seems he has been selling stolen accounts in the past. Granted it goes back to 2016 but he also has accusations of scamming.

For those who might not have seen it, it is an apt time to mention I created a thread in June 2023 that is worthy of a read because of the very many good ideas put forward by members of the community during the discussion: Tagging Accounts Sellers And Tagging Traded/Sold/Bought Accounts


1176  Economy / Reputation / Re: Obsessive Conduct by "BenCodie" Over A Neutral Tag on: September 08, 2023, 06:49:07 AM
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This is a copy of the post I was typing up to put in the Whirlwind thread when I was about to give a negative tag to BenCodie on 25th August 2023. Instead, I decided to make the above post instead hoping he would at least reflect on how wrong he was thus avoiding a negative tag. Had he re-affirmed the unacceptable stance I would have edited/modified the text below and completed it adding a bit more information before posting it and subsequently leaving a negative tag. Even though never admitted it again at least he claimed he never said it, therefore I left a neutral tag on 27th August 2023 after I read his reply.


I have been in the forum quite some time and never recall reading a post from you until a few days ago and all about the same sort of subject. As you spoke with a form of moral authority I decided to look and was surprised to see your account was registered in 2014.

What struck me painfully was the moral high ground you took with the first post below but you absolutely destroyed your own credibility with the second post below. For example, you are right it is not your/mine/our responsibility to keep the forum safe and yes it is optional but the way you are phrasing it seems you are bigger than the forum and have some form of seniority complex over the rest of us. That is narcissism.

I have (probably) been the biggest vocal critic of 1xbit/1xbit1. The REQUEST FOR ATTENTION OF: All 1xbit Signature Campaign Participants thread was created because of the number of complaints made against them very early on in their presence in the forum. Such was the scale of complaints against them I and several other members began tagging signature campaign participants in order to create a deterrent. My mindset was that if nobody tried stopping them from using signature campaigns innocent/gullible people could lose money be being selective scammed. If I had kept my opinions to myself not created the thread or tagged 1xbit/1xbit1 signature campaign participants and instead applied to join their very-well paying signature campaign, it would have been a dereliction of moral duty.

I am extremely disappointed any reputable forum member would have the duplicitous and shameful mindset that you evidently have demonstrated to possess. You have effectively stated you were convinced Whirlwind was a scam and have given the reason and the 12% APR was another flag you mentioned but none of that stopped you from applying to join a signature campaign for what you were convinced was a scam. You are morally bankrupt as far as your presence in the forum is concerned.

The third post below clearly demonstrates by adding to the general matter your characteristics the profanities, insults and name-calling. BlackHatCoiner has been here since 2020 and TryNinja since 2015, both have contributed immensely with positivity in this forum but (providing the account has not changed hands) what have you brought here to the forum apart from trying to sell the diced.io domain, apply for a loan as collateral using that domain but it was declined by Darkstar_ and apply to join signature campaigns.

Obviously you've been so lost in the mixer & casino sauce that you've lost touch of the aspects of a truly legitimate business lol

As for you being apparently tricked - if they're your checks - your checks are SHIT.
- Code is not open source
- Protocol is not decentralized
- Custody is kept (who gives a shit about a newbie's promises?)
- Creator was a newbie who could talk somewhat technically (is that really a legitimacy indicator?)
- On-chain traces showed the mixing was not anymore advanced than any other solution (I pointed this out early on, BTW)

These are 5 red flags I could spit out about WW without even mentioning the "anonymity mining" scam campaign.


So you knew it was a scam but still was willing to advertise it and didn’t even care enough to warn us? Jesus, that’s even worse.

Handsight 20/20, huh? Turns out everybody is suddenly a genius.

I had reasons to believe that it was a scam however I, nor anyone who is not an "elite" would have been paid attention to if we were to talk about the red flags, due to how many people (like BlackHatCoiner) would have irrationally defended it and irrationally discussed it due to how much was being paid to members and, maybe even their involvement... That's another consequence of not vetting campaigns, people who get paid will defend it and shadow the ones behind it. Even if I was getting paid, I'd have not defended it. I'd have just enjoyed the opportunity while it lasted while having my reservations.

I made my opinion on the mixing protocol itself because that was factual and provable, it got half-assed rebutted by whirlwin and no one else continued the conversation or paid attention to my post, or I would have contributed more if other users wanted to talk about it - no one did.

I'm not a genius for seeing red flags. I'm sure many others did but, for similar reasons to mine, kept their mouths shut....and, for the sake of not doing what I have to do right now - are continuing to keep their mouth shut.

I didn't wear the signature at any stage...yet I'm a villain for knowing and not pointing out red flags for you all? Despite most probably being ignored because the red flags aren't provable til after the fact? Shame on you for that preposterous jab.

Whether or not I said something, BlackHatCoiner would still be saying the same shit he said in his original post, and everyone who currently has their dick in their hand would still have their dick in their hand, most likely.

Tldr: You should GTFO for calling me worse than the guy who wore the signature, didn't do his due diligence, and endorsed the service as well as getting paid to advertise is. You should rethink your comment tryhardninja and you should also get off BlackHatCoiner's dick.

As for you BlackHatCoiner, you not having anything valid to say except quoting a signature campaign application says enough.

My checks are shit. Lmao.  Roll Eyes

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Re-applying as instructed Smiley Hope to work with you Hhampuz & whirlwind!

It's not my responsibility to keep this forum safe. Just like it's not yours, or anyone's. It's clearly optional. if whirlwind are going to pay good money for me to post, then I will. If they pay me to post a review, I will. Innocent until proven guilty...I wouldn't advertise them now.

As for the checks I need to do - the only checks I need to do are for me if I am using the service. Is that selfish? Yes. But how constructive would it have really been if I raised red flags in WW thread or anywhere else? I think it would have caused more drama, or would have taken a lot of effort. Under what basis am I saying this? I called out Boxxob for promoting a multi million dollar casino scam and yet he's still here getting paid to advertise l0tt0, another casino.

Conclusion, and point?

It's not my responsibility to take care of people here...and I definitely won't act as if I am surprised when they run away.

Hence, I'll apply to the campaign - and any other campaign. If people more powerful than me want to make a change, I'll definitely follow. I'm trying to help with the security & privacy board. Otherwise, why should I forego an opportunity that allows me to be rewarded for being a part of a great forum, ultimately supporting an even greater cause?

If you really care or if you're going to be shocked when something happens, or if yo got scammed, then you need to do better checks.
1177  Economy / Reputation / Obsessive Conduct by "BenCodie" Over A Neutral Tag on: September 08, 2023, 06:48:41 AM
self-moderated to keep this thread clean from trolls, attention-seekers and signature spammers

I have no idea what BenCodie was thinking when he created this drama under the guise of a rational thread to invite discussion. Here we see another example of somebody who has received a neutral tag and has decided to try to have it removed. What does he do? He decided to create a thread and dress it up as an outlet for intellectual debate when the intention was simply to gauge whether or not he could get some momentum behind him which (he hoped) would pressure me to removing a neutral tag.

Can you imagine that? All that effort, skulduggery and scheming on part of BenCodie for nothing except a neutral tag. Rather than post in that thread, I have created one to express sentiments regarding his obsession with the fact he received a neutral tag. I usually try not to respond to unnecessary drama or make threads to stipulate my position when it comes to members complaining about tags but once in a while someone comes along who seems to be posting directly, indirectly or subliminally in multiple threads making comments that can continue to be ignored or some response can be made. I have decided to post a response just for those that might be curious.

If (as expected) you read posts from BenCodie regarding the neutral feedback I left for him, this thread can be used a reference for those interested.

Apart from the above mentioned thread, I see he has been busy in other places, some links below:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg62782318#msg62782318
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg62796140#msg62796140
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg62800923#msg62800923
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg62802613#msg62802613
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg62803109#msg62803109
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg62803861#msg62803861
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg62806038#msg62806038

What is clear, after he realised the comments he made in the Whirlwind thread including those when he insulted at least two very knowledgable members (after he stated he was convinced Whirlwind was a scam but applied to join their signature campaign because he did not want to miss out on the opportunity to get the weekly payouts), he tried repair the damage by posting anywhere while trying to get to that 1000 merit mark. Basically, I have no interest on whether he manages to get their or not but it obviously means a lot to him therefore the campaign against me started just because I left him a neutral tag.

After posting those unacceptable comments in the Whirlwind thread and then going on the offensive against some forum members and attacking/insulting them rather than being humble and withdraw his comments entirely, he allowed time to pass then sent this PM on 27th August 2023.  Still, full of pumping adrenalin and a larger-than-life-ego, he did not apologise but chose the I did not say that stance and has maintained it ever since.

For those that know me and have conversed with me via PM, you will attest to the fact I do reply. I think there have been just a handful of unsolicited PMs where I have not replied but the stance that he took in the PM was enough for me to not consider giving a reply, I thought it was highly condescending considering the fact it is the first (and only) time he sent a PM but you can come to your own conclusions.


For those not aware, I had to ask BenCodie several times to explain fully what he was stating when he stated he was convinced Whirlwind was a scam yet did not raise it with anybody and instead applied to join their signature campaign and not only that, he stated he did not feel it important to tell anybody. Those of us that read the posts in that thread know what he stated but I still hoped he would withdraw the comment because I did not want a drama such as this being created. Even though I did not leave a negative tag, the drama has still unfolded.

He is heading towards Legendary rank therefore that milestone could have played a part in this sudden burst of activity regarding the neutral tag. Yes ladies and gentleman, all this drama over a neutral tag. There was a trend when alt-accounts operated by account farmers were creating threads asking for negative tags to be removed but those days have long gone, it has been for far too long about neutral tags.

In a nutshell, BenCodie received a neutral tag for stating he was happy to take money from a signature campaign of a what he was convinced was a scam because he should not say no to money coming his way and because he did not feel the need to raise his concerns with those of us who thought they were promoting a genuine business.

Here are some ironies:

The first here that in retaliation for a neutral tag he has responded with an unwarranted and undeserved negative tag. Adding on to that, there are some trolls who have a habit of following me around (somewhat obsessively) and at least one of them has been reported to have added BenCodie to their trust list simply because he gave me negative feedback.

Some of the trolls have made fleeting comments but one of the trolls has even resorted on some previous occasions to posting all the names of those who have added me to their trust list effectively asking them to remove me by using some subtle and not-so-subtle mannerisms. How ironic (if true) that same member deliberately adds to his trust a second member who has given me negative trust purely on that basis and for no other reason therefore the troll is effectively pointing a neon sign on to himself asking to be excluded from members trust for applying incorrect use of the trust system. The irony.

Another irony in this situation is that BenCodie had (I believe but someone please correct me if I am wrong) given negative tag later revised to neutral to just two members of a seventeen member strong team of the bc.game signature campaign participants, on the basis the company allegedly had excessive scam accusations against them. With which logic did he apply by being an upstanding member of the community he can select 2 members from 17 to leave neutral tags. For obvious reasons the campaign manager (icopress) was not tagged because one day he might apply to join a campaign but what is not so obvious is why did he think 15 other members doing the same thing did not warrant the same tag. On the contrary, he supported icopress when he asked to be Merit Source

Another irony is that Shishir99 created a thread named Super High IQ BenCodie vs Low IQ forum posters about gambling. because the OP was condescending with his alleged higher IQ to those he concluded had lower IQ to him, therefore five days after the thread was created BenCodie left him a neutral tag for (effectively) daring to question him. How ironic he is upset that he has received a neutral tag from me.

Anyway, after several prompts from me, the OP decided to reply to my question about his disingenuous behaviour in the Whirlwind thread. After he semi-retracted with a "that is not what I said" comment rather than be humble and accept he made a mistake, I opted to leave a neutral tag **

I waited patiently for the OP to reply, if there was malice on my part I would have simply left a negative tag immediately. I gave multiple opportunities for him withdraw or retract his comment before placing the tag. From his side it seems it was a carefully thought out reason (related to signature campaigns, increasing to Legendary rank) which saw him semi-retract the comment but now he has tried to find ways of trying to have the neutral tag removed while citing even stronger than before that he never said this and never said that.

There is nothing wrong with my post but it did not warrant a reply from BenCodie:

BenCodie, please review your last few posts (including the ones where you have insulted respected members of the forum) and ask yourself if you have achieved anything constructive by using profanities and insults. I doubt it will help you when you put forward any argument to debate any matter in any walk of life therefore it should not help you here.

Also, would you like to re-think your post about you saying in your opinion you knew Whirlwind was a scam but you did two very interesting things. First, you did not post warnings about it (because you said you were not obliged to) and second, even though in your opinion it was a scam from the very beginning you did not hesitate to apply to join their signature campaign and you would have no problem with participating if you were selected.

That sort of conduct is shocking to say the least if you are stating you believed it was a scam but had no problem wanting to be part of their signature campaign.

The final irony is advice for myself and a suggestion for others to consider without prejudice. If any member posts they are happy to promote what they believe is a scam because all they want are payments (and they go on to apply/join what they believe are signature campaigns promoting scams and even go as far as to state it is not their job to effectively protect forum members by raising alarms and could not care less if forum members get scammed by services they promote), just tag them with negative trust when you see their post.
1178  Economy / Reputation / Re: JollyGood is trusted by - and question. on: September 08, 2023, 04:47:18 AM
These clients on the forum are new, they have no idea who left negative feedback for what reason, their only justification is the negative feedback is there and it's visible, they believe a negative feedback is bad for their business (it make sense when there are others who does not have it, it's the first thing that they see before everything else when they do their home work).
If it is not Poker Player being accused of contacting prospective clients telling them to not use his services and him allegedly losing business, it is now allegedly me causing lost business to him.

I guess the previous times set a precedent. Tags are placed but he wants them revised or removed and he gets them revised or removed therefore he thinks he can go after someone every few months trying to get a tag removed or revised. Narcissist is a word that immediately comes to mind.

There should be no argument that the feedback were left because JollyGood was felt insulted of the response I had when he was trying to show his usual bossiness to me that he shows to other members all the time to destroy their reputation (people who does not go along with him). JollyGood failed to destroy me entirely though but his action is effecting me until this date.
First, if he chooses to revisit the Bitlucy scam then he should do it with complete honesty and not be selective in an attempt to show himself in a much better light considering what actually took place. As a gesture of goodwill, I will refrain from posting links to comments he made related to the Bitlucy scam.

Second, I am fairly sure he blamed someone else when he said (words to the effect of) previously he was down and out, depressed, suicidal even, before he miraculously recovered and came back to the forum and bombarded every ANN thread he could trying to manage their campaigns. He is now alleging I tried to destroy him. What a melodrama.

Third, the feedback I left was based purely on the fact he was self-proclaimed Co-Partner of Bitlucy as well as Marketing Director of Bitlucy and added to that he was also campaign manager too (and all the associated issues I will not post here) therefore to allude I left feedback for any reason other than his conduct within various roles at Bitlucy is absurd and is an attempt to misdirect from the facts.

Do you guys (who have him in your trust list) really think a controversial user like JollyGood should be in the DT area?(Q2)
I will be grateful to hear some justified response from you for the both questions left for you.

Cheers,
Putting cap in hand trying to have members add or remove me from trust lists based on a campaign managers whim (while having the lure of signature campaign participation), is quite insulting. Can anybody here imagine any other campaign manager posting such complete and utter nonsense wrapped in a one-sided melodrama laden with deception all for the sake trying to use any means necessary to try to have a negative tag removed or to render it useless by way of trust exclusions? The two campaign managers that I hold in very high regard would never stoop that low.

Maybe sending a PM to discuss what he wanted to achieve would have been a better start than seeing him starting at gutter level with this thread. I could be wrong but it seems he opted for the latter because he is managing several campaigns and probably thinks he can exert influence over the majority of members who trust a member he does not like.

Regardless, if he had any decency he would have sent a PM to start a discussion in order to get an understanding of perspective from both sides but I guess arrogance and over-confidence was always part of his persona and it grew over time as his portfolio of campaigns increased. He contacted another member that left him negative feedback to discuss the issue but did not contact me, instead he jumped straight to creating this thread allowing a group of trolls working in tandem to post their propaganda whenever they get a chance.
1179  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: is Stunna dead ??? Primedice n Stake spoke person. on: September 06, 2023, 11:49:46 AM
The OP is clearly very upset but unfortunately for him he seems he is venting frustration in the wrong place. From what has been stated in the thread it seems he is in denial because he lost funds and now is looking at shifting the blame on to Stake. If Stake were manipulating outcomes or altering historical data, it would have been picked up by now.
Nope, he's leaning more toward grasping at straws and throwing muds rather than venting, if I may give my opinion. So far, he accuses Stake to be a scam family business due to the owner's father's past history, changing betID during live betting, using motion sensors to cheat their user, manipulating betting [mine games] history, and paid anyone who question his story as people on their payroll.

But yes, I think he's in denial, he lost his inheritance money to gamble at stake.
Usually (but not always) when a scam allegation is made, the accuser misses out vital information which would/could cast doubt on the whole story. I am not sure what the OP was expecting but if he has gambled away his inheritance he only has himself to blame. He can claim he was scammed but without providing proof he really has nothing except his words. It must have affected him after he gambled and lost his inheritance.

Just think about that for a moment, how would you feel if you lost your entire inheritance to a gambling website? He is quite obviously messed up and will probably need a little time before he can cope with the magnitude of what he has done.

Exactly the point, Most gamblers do not adhere to the rule  which states that we should always gamble responsibly, and also never stake money we can't afford to lose, they just go on betting amount they clearly can not afford to lose simply out of greed , and when eventually the money is lost, they just simply can not believe it, they begin to feel or even believe  the casino cheated them somehow, and by this, they start looking for ways to get back at the casino ..
If it helps him at least he has learned a lesson and should not gambling at all if he cannot afford to lose what he is gambling. As sad as it is for him, I hope this experience will stay with him as a reminder to remain within limits when if he bets in future.
1180  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Btc addess problem big problem cant recive on: September 04, 2023, 10:57:41 PM
It was somewhat strange the OP tried to get free Bitcoins under the guise of testing what is/was wrong with his address. I think the lack of written English comprehension is part of the deception. Over the years many different tactics have been used to try to get others to part with their crypto and sometimes they have worked but now more and more people are careful. You cannot believe everything that is being posted.

I thinks iam legendry in this job , when u like me resolve to me my problem
You are the person who can resolve the problem by yourself by sending coins to your wallet through p2p or purchasing it from exchange. Bitcoin address never expired and I don't think it can be lock. If you can't send it form your other address then you have to try it from a centralized exchange. And this is what the forum can use to help you by telling you what to do and not to help you with bitcoin. There is no free bitcoin in the forum to give you or to test any frozen,lock address.

You method of trying to acquire bitcoin in the forum has failed.
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