Diciamo però anche che il problema degli Africani sono gli Africani, da sempre (secoli), non so se ci siete stati o quanto ci avete avuto a che fare (da nord a sud) ma con la loro filosofia di vita non riescono mai a combinare nulla, non riescono ad organizzarsi, non riescono ad andare d'accordo tra di loro in nessun modo e si spezzettano in centinaia e centinaia di fazioni, comunità, tribù ecc...che a loro volta litigano tra di loro, hai voglia a cercare di aiutarli.
E poi viene quello che dici tu, perchè le nazioni esterne vedono tutto ciò e chi è senza scrupoli va a sfruttare senza pietà da secoli.
Chi ha ragione? Nessuno, però questo è il quadro generale. Mi trovo assolutamente d'accordo. Purtroppo non esiste una forma carina o politically correct di dirlo senza passare per uno sfruttatore, colonizzatore o suprematista bianco però appunto, per tutti i motivi che hai elencato, non sono capaci di governarsi da soli. Sicuramente lo sfruttamento europeo è deprecabile e sono state fatte tante cose sbagliate però parliamo di 50-100 anni fa, non dimentichiamoci che solamente nel 1945 in Europa c'era chi bruciava la gente nei forni mentre oggi, a distanza di 70 anni, tantissime cose sono cambiate ma non in Africa. Forse la soluzione migliore sarebbe stata una specie di collaborazione tra gli ex paesi colonizzatori e quelli colonizzati invece mi pare che in molti casi non ci sia stata nessuna transizione, solamente un'indipendenza e si sono tagliati i collegamenti. E chiaramente non erano assolutamente preparati all'autogestione. Comunque, devo dire che con le vostre "cronache americane" mi avete fatto passare la voglia di vedere gli Usa (non che prima stimassi l'americano medio...), certo c'è del buono anche li e posti meravigliosi da visitare. Tieni presente che comunque si parla sempre di piccolissime esperienze personali, gli USA sono talmente grandi che è difficile classificare "l'americano medio", è come dire "l'europeo medio", e chi sarebbe? L'italiano casinista, il tedesco perfettino o il finlandese senza emozioni? |
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I bought the other day and we have seen yet another crash since then it feels like there is so much bad news and FUD at the moment.
I feel like having a break as I am starting to feel we could go close to the lows of last year, not sure if we will go that low but could go close so thinking of waiting until we see at least another 10% drop to buy more.
How is everyone else feeling?
Look, if you are feeling nervous and worried about a possible 10% drop you either invested too much money or simply you can't handle the pressure. If it's the first case then you made a big mistake; if it's the second then you just need to get used to it, and think that bitcoin, during its short history, several times lost 70-80% of its value so a 10% drop is literally nothing. |
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Inoltre stanno arginando il sistema crypto introducendo tassazioni e regolamentazioni varie che, anche qui se uno va a vedere, è un modo per scoraggiare l'adozione o l'ingresso/uscita nel/dal mercato.
È un modo per scoraggiare l'eventuale compratore della domenica, non chi crede davvero in BTC. Più e più volte bitcoin ha perso oltre il 70-80% del suo valore, un sacco di persone non hanno mai venduto a prescindere dai cali di prezzo, del FUD, dei governi, di quello che vuoi, pensi veramente che questa gente si possa spaventare ora, quando bitcoin è sulla bocca di tutti? Possono cercare di contenerlo ma oramai è tardi per loro, non hanno mai capito che tanta gente dietro bitcoin è visionaria, è sognatrice, non è il classico banchiere piuttosto che operatore di borsa che si limita a leggere i numeri, qui stiamo parlando di gente con ben più di un pizzico di follia nel loro mondo. |
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You can monitor just for personal interest, reading that (clickbait) article the price "dumped" about $450 for 10k BTC: we have no way to know if that actually had something to do with that sale or it was just a coincidence. Oftentimes, when a whale sells, that sale gets immediately absorbed by the market, the problem is when there are several whales trying to manipulate the market. |
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So if ECONOMIC DEPRESSION happened again in the world, will it affect bitcoin with it fellow digital currencies? Because economy is the back bone of everything in the world. What affect economy affect all other things. And bitcoin is the father of digital currency.
What is your say.
It all depends on what you mean by "affecting bitcoin": will it affect its value? Probably yes. Will it affect the way it works? Absolutely not. Bitcoin will keep going despite the value in dollars, euro, or whatever other fiat value. Many people make confusion and think that bitcoin's value somehow affects the way it works, but it doesn't. So if I were you I wouldn't worry about this possibility. |
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I came across a post made on this forum by someone that says he has $20k for investment as such he was looking for people to advice him on how to go about it, for me it was actually a bad idea consorting everyone for investment advice because you could be lured by scammers to invest on a shitcoin as such loosing all your money because of lack of knowledge about Bitcoin or any investment in general, as someone that has no idea on investment I think the first thing was research google to learn more and also the risk involves. so I was thrilled to create this topic, so everyone could help by sharing there own knowledge on what someone that has no knowledge about investment should no before venturing into.
I may not be the right person for investment advice that's why I'm asking everyone to share their advice, views and knowledge incase something like this should come up, so people could learn and no what must be done before going into investment.
I know what thread you are talking about and pretty much it's an example of what you shouldn't do before investing. On the other side, I don't think that investing in bitcoin requires too much study, I try to explain myself better: once you have a general idea of the economical system and the inflation, and then you read what bitcoin is about, I don't want to say it's a no brainer decision investing but almost. Then you can dedicate more time to understand every little detail, sure, but having a basic understanding is more than enough in my opinion. |
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Lungi da me giustificare queste cose ma sono sempre accadute e, probabilmente, sempre accadranno. E non parlo solo dell'Italia, non pensiate che negli USA le mazzette ed i "favori" non esistano. Perfino in posti come l'Islanda ci sono stati scandali per la corruzione. Sicuramente certe pratiche sono più comuni in alcuni paesi piuttosto che altri ma, come si dice, il più pulito ha la rogna.
Alcuni anni fa sono stato in Madagascar per turismo (con un tour, non da solo). All´arrivo in aeroporto (una pista e un edificio di 100 metri quadrati ad un solo piano), tutti in coda ai banchi della dogana per il controllo passaporti. La scena era: arrivavi, davi il passaporto all'agente doganale, sorridevi e aspettavi. Quello sfogliava un po' di pagine, poi chinava la testa verso di te e con pollice e indice tra le pagine del passaporto sfregava le dita nel classico segno di chi chiede una "mancia". Mi sono detto: "se il buongiorno si vede dal mattino...." infatti poi ho capito che lì ovunque ti sposti ti chiedono il pizzo. Alla faccia dell'Italia, mafia pizza e mandolino! Non sono mai stato nel continente africano ma, in base a varie esperienze indirette, è una prassi comune chiedere soldi praticamente per qualsiasi cosa che abbia a che fare con la burocrazia/governo. D'altra parte non si fanno scrupoli a rubare alla loro stessa gente, figurati quando arriva il turista bianco, per molti automaticamente è una vacca da spennare il più possibile perché sicuramente i soldi li ha. Il livello di corruzione in quelle zone è enorme, non per niente cambiano i governi ma la situazione è sempre la stessa, o comunque i cambiamenti sono minimi. |
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How much do you think Bitcoin will rise to in the next round of bull market?
As usual it's impossible to predict something like this but, considering what happened in the past and the ongoing situation with the bitcoin spot ETFs, I would expect something between $130k and $160k. Why? Because I think that we can easily double the old ATH, which was $69k (approx) and usually after we make a new ATH there are a few more. And again, let's not forget about the ETF's money ready to flood the market. |
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In 2016, when I first heard about Bitcoin. I never had any knowledge of the existence of a bitcointalk forum or even a detailed idea of Bitcoin itself, the first mistake I made was to listen to people's advice in respect to investing in Bitcoin. When I started reading and researching about bitcoin and its technology, A time came when I made up my mind to invest my little savings in it, but I decided to involve my parents, siblings and friends so that we can invest concurrently. But They came to the conclusion that bitcoin and all online investments are scams and I should not make such a wrong step if not, that am going to lose my money, I was confuse at that point I'm sorry but I am a little confused now: I guess back in 2016 you were pretty young, hence the decision to talk about this investment opportunity with your parents, etc, so probably at your age you already knew how to use internet and look for information. Now you're telling us that your parents and friends made you change your mind because, I quote, "They came to the conclusion that bitcoin and all online investments are scams"? How did they do this kind of research? Where did they find this info? Did you look as well? Or did you just trust their word? I mean, seriously, I would never ask my parents for an opinion about bitcoin, they have no idea what it is and they have no idea how to find info about it. Probably you didn't believe in bitcoin enough to take the risk and buy otherwise no way you would have just trusted them. |
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Hello I am looking to invest my 20,000 dollars for retirement but I don't know the best crypto for me to put into to save myself from inflation. I'm 64 years old and don't have the time to learn the ins and outs of this crypto stuff so if anyone can give me advice I would appreciate it.
You can contact me through the forum or via email I appreciate the help
To be honest it's hard to take you seriously because all what you are saying doesn't make any sense: - Why would you tell on a public forum you have $20k (theoretically) to invest? - Why would you tell you know nothing and you don't care about learning? - Why would you ask for help using emails when it's full of scammers? I don't know what your final goal is but I see a lot of BS here. |
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I know that many other centralized exchanges may declare bankruptcy - but let's ignore this for a moment and assume that these companies gets back in business would you patronize them? Would you still do business with them? I know the whole talk of move your bitcoin off centralized exchanges but we cannot denial the fact they that they still play an important role in the crypto community. I would never trust again an exchange that went bankrupt. Who can assure me that it's not going to happen again? If you go bankrupt you had a really bad management, at that point just start a new clean exchange. I feel like it would be like fixing a totaled car instead of getting a new one, why would you do that? How could you trust it? |
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Basically, what I'm trying to say is that social media is powerful,and its high time we understand that no matter how good or bad a post is,it has the potential to affect the market. Possibly, I believe social Media will play a significant role in Bitcoin's promotion, indulgence, maturation and exposure because of it's educational power.
For sure social media have a lot of power and influence because there are a ton of people who just blindly follow their idols, so no matter the shit they suggest, they are going to do as they say. The problem, for this kind of people, is that they can't make money out of bitcoin so usually they prefer to "suggest" some shitcoin that is clearly a scam. Very few people actually do a good job promoting bitcoin, all the others have some kind of conflict of interest and they just want to make as much money as possible. |
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Pure io sto scrivendo meno.
Ho uno stash di merits arretrati da distribuire abbastanza rilevante.
Diciamo che il concorso delle pizze, la debacle della mia bozza sul meta ed alcuni sbattimenti a livello personale, mi hanno un pò bloccato.
Ma non temete, non vi lascio soli.
Ma segui i cantieri pure in estate? O fa troppo caldo per dare indicazioni? Studio Aperto suggerisce agli anziani di non uscire, dagli ascolto, mi raccomando  |
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Ah ma questo è quello che ha messo sullo stesso livello le criptovalute ed il gioco d'azzardo? Va beh, di cosa stiamo parlando? È chiaro che una persona del genere, visto il suo background, punti tutto sul controllo, ecco perché è così a favore dell'euro digitale. Dobbiamo preoccuparci? Non credo, oramai bitcoin non lo fermano più.
L'unico aspetto triste della vicenda è che, come sempre, vanno al potere sempre i soliti vecchi con sempre la solita mentalità, poi ci si chiede perché non cambia mai nulla.
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Negli anni si sono susseguiti tantissimi successori di bitcoin (a parole)
* bitcoin cash
* bitcoin abc
* xrp
* ethereum
* solana
uno che davvero ci sia andato vicino nonci sta pero
quindi hbar dice cose che hanno detto altri, realizzarle chissa
Diciamo che a fine 2017, in piena bolla, BCH sembrava che fosse lì per lì a prendere il suo posto poi, per fortuna, non è successo, e magari non sarebbe durato, ma la tensione in quel momento era tanta e ricordo un sacco di gente che non sapeva più cosa fare perché aveva paura che BTC avrebbe perso la sfida. XRP direi che non ha nulla a che fare con BTC e, a memoria, non hanno mai neanche cercato di pubblicizzarlo in quel modo, si è sempre saputo che era la coin delle banche in un certo senso. |
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Oltre la mera ricchezza in quantità evidentemente servono poi altri elementi.
servono gli amici giusti, con gli amici giusti si sbloccano le pratiche burocratiche per avere i finanziamenti, che ti spettano, magari europei, devi fare qualche regalo allora magicamente tutta la burocrazia si dipana e ti fanno fare le cose roba ordinaria qua in italia, pratiche rigettte cento volte,poi parli con la persona giusta, fai qualche regaluccio e la pratica passa Lungi da me giustificare queste cose ma sono sempre accadute e, probabilmente, sempre accadranno. E non parlo solo dell'Italia, non pensiate che negli USA le mazzette ed i "favori" non esistano. Perfino in posti come l'Islanda ci sono stati scandali per la corruzione. Sicuramente certe pratiche sono più comuni in alcuni paesi piuttosto che altri ma, come si dice, il più pulito ha la rogna. |
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Already she had Binance, so requested her to send the bitcoin address and send a small amount of 0.0011BTC as birthday gift.
I know it is not good to send gifts to the centralized exchanges. During the conversation she said she is interested to learn about trading and for that purpose she had downloaded Binance. While meeting her in person I will brief her better about the security and need for non custodial wallet. Of course it's good that you are going to explain her the problems related to keep funds on exchanges but what worries me the most is this part: "she is interested to learn about trading", I mean, for real? On average 85% of the traders lose their money, is she so confident she's going to to be in that 15%? I don't know, isn't it better to explain her how bitcoin works and just buy a little every month instead of trading? |
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I have this colleague of mine at workplace who is a bitcoin enthusiast just like me. Often times at work when we're less occupied with our job we kind of spend such moment's discussing about bitcoin generally. Two days ago he was telling me about his plans to start buying BTC with 20% of his salary every month for the rest of the years he has to retirement that's when he will then take it all. And based on the company total years of service he has 16 years left to his retirement.
With the way he was talking to me about it he appears to know exactly what he's about to do and how its going to end for him. But for me his idea has left some apprehension and questioning in my head due to the length of years (good 16 years) he is going to keep up with. From my angle the years are too much as no one can certainly say for sure about what the future of cryptocurrency and bitcoin holds despite how positive it could be looking today.
In my opinion I wanted to talk to him with a logical conclusion why he should reduce the length of years, not to do it at a stretch of straight 16years he has in mind without applying risk management technique, maybe by splitting those 16years into four interjecting years. As in he should in every 4 years be taking 50% of whatever total amount plus profit till it gets to the 16years he planned. At least in worst case scenario this method could save him something reliable to fall back onto.
How do you guys think about this idea of mine for my colleague? Can it really be helpful to him in the long run or it may just obstruct his original plan killing the whole idea? Please all opinions are entertained but whatever your opinion might be, also try to put the length of years involved into consideration.(16 years)
Reading your post it looks like your final goal is to change your colleague's mind and, for me, that is a very bad move because we are talking his money. It's totally fine for you telling him about your concerns and what you would/wouldn't do, but don't push it too much because if for any reason he decides to listen to you and at the end you were wrong, well, I wouldn't like to find myself in that situation. |
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When you buy Bitcoin hen the price is 100k$ then how much will you sell it back to make profit because at that time the price of Bitcoin might not exceed 100k$ and if the price didn't not exceed that amount you will become a loser in the business so how does the vendors do at that time?
Or you buy at that time and thinking that it will go up to 200k$ but ironically, the price come below 100k$. What will be you faith/fate.
I think that in a certain way we can compare the $100k to the $1k and $10k: they are all psychological numbers that could stop some people from buying, and many others would be willing to sell. But it's impossible to predict what will happen, back in 2017, when BTC reached $10k for the very first time, in a few weeks was almost at $20k so who knows how many people sold at approx $10k and then, because of the fomo, bought back at $13-15-18k? And then it dropped again to $3,500 so probably many lost money twice. |
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Now I wonder, do they just want to enter the market and profit off of it or are there some other intentions? Since they offer an exchange for business users, could it be possible that the system could be used so the government could actually tax Bitcoin by taxing the company investing in it trough the bank account? Banks are finally realizing that many people want to buy bitcoin and shutting down people's account won't benefit them at all. The banks with that way of doing business will end up like the dinosaurs did. The smart ones will just make some profit as usual. If the banks offers something is because they can make money out of it, as simple as that. |
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