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1821  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 12, 2014, 04:47:40 PM
I downloaded the Windows simple wallet from weslyl. It wont accept my old NXT address and it wont copy and paste address as I try to opoen a new account.

Correct me if Im doing something wrong but this smells of a FAIL.

What windows version is this? There is no logic to prevent copy paste. Can you right click in the field and select paste?

The latest off the website, windows easy option.



No it wont let me. I can ctrl v which worked fine. But I imagine if you cant do a simple copy paste people will be pissed if they have really long passwords.....I mean it was encouraged a while back to have a really long complex one.


Why no Username and password combination? Seems better than just one password..
1822  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 12, 2014, 04:45:28 PM
I downloaded the Windows simple wallet from weslyl. It wont accept my old NXT address and it wont copy and paste address as I try to opoen a new account.

Correct me if Im doing something wrong but this smells of a FAIL.

Only fail here must be your ability to remember your password, most mistakes happen between the chair and the computer.

1) if it's  copy/paste password see if you don't forget a space or something
2) Put back the exact password you typed
3) Check a blockexplorer


Dude my 'password' is about about 200 random letters and numbers, of course I need to cut and paste it!!!!!

So the developers blocked the ability to cut and paste a password, are you friken serious!!!


Have you tried ctrl+V? That works for me.


Awesome that works great. Some people are actually helpful on here, cheers.
1823  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 12, 2014, 04:43:09 PM
I downloaded the Windows simple wallet from weslyl. It wont accept my old NXT address and it wont copy and paste address as I try to opoen a new account.

Correct me if Im doing something wrong but this smells of a FAIL.


You must be the first with this problem. I've done this "process" several times and no problem.

Check where the smells come from but it seems that the poo is under your desk.


What an idiot you are. Why not answer the question and problem instead of dismissing it.

Ok genius. How do I enter a password that wont let me cut and paste it and is like half a page of random text?

Love to know your solution....
1824  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 12, 2014, 04:34:09 PM
I downloaded the Windows simple wallet from weslyl. It wont accept my old NXT address and it wont copy and paste address as I try to opoen a new account.

Correct me if Im doing something wrong but this smells of a FAIL.

Only fail here must be your ability to remember your password, most mistakes happen between the chair and the computer.

1) if it's  copy/paste password see if you don't forget a space or something
2) Put back the exact password you typed
3) Check a blockexplorer


Dude my 'password' is about about 200 random letters and numbers, of course I need to cut and paste it!!!!!

So the developers blocked the ability to cut and paste a password, are you friken serious!!!
1825  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 12, 2014, 04:23:42 PM
I downloaded the Windows simple wallet from weslyl. It wont accept my old NXT address and it wont copy and paste address as I try to opoen a new account.

Correct me if Im doing something wrong but this smells of a FAIL.
1826  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN+IPO]Next ColoredCoin-Next generation asset exchange system Based on Nxt on: May 12, 2014, 03:14:27 PM
If people haven't worked out this is a scam yet then they haven't been paying attention.
1827  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | IPO | Escrow | 100% POS | New Source | Beta Available on: May 12, 2014, 02:20:55 PM
Here is the document of all the IPO transactions and the distribution.
I haven't checked every transaction yet but there shouldn't be any mistakes in this.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P_SE9VBAcmuTjmHU-OJVoc7rns-iDVlsMvhnfS2QgJE/edit?usp=sharing

So , what is the name used for ?
I have not a clearly known of the function of the name. Can anyone explain more clearly?

A name is just a key-value pair.
The text value can be used for many things URLs, addresses, email addresses.
The community should decide how they want to use it.
OK, I see.
BTW, is there any foundation about qora ?

foundation?
I mean a foundation to promote qora, such as build website , forum, free give away, third party service....

Having a foundation in a decentralized economy , that is generally bad.
Just look in the past what happen with btc and what is happening now with other coins and their "foundation"
are you high?  Smiley

Do you have a clue how much damage the bitcoin foundation has done to btc lately?
Lots of papers compared it to a failed government made out of drug dealers and gamblers.

Whenever there is a central point in a crypto , there is a weakness.

But of course , with your post stats , I doubt you know anything about those events.


There are some crossed lines probably due to language here and just attacking people isn't the general way to communicate.

I don't think anyone here is talking about some kind of centralized group or 'foundation' we are just talking about organizing the community just like most coins do, ie website, PR etc...

I do personally think we should wait to hear the direction the Developer wants the community to move in though and how much he wants the community to take on....but that's a separate issue.  
1828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | IPO | Escrow | 100% POS | New Source | Beta Available on: May 12, 2014, 08:15:28 AM
Here is the document of all the IPO transactions and the distribution.
I haven't checked every transaction yet but there shouldn't be any mistakes in this.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P_SE9VBAcmuTjmHU-OJVoc7rns-iDVlsMvhnfS2QgJE/edit?usp=sharing

So , what is the name used for ?
I have not a clearly known of the function of the name. Can anyone explain more clearly?

A name is just a key-value pair.
The text value can be used for many things URLs, addresses, email addresses.
The community should decide how they want to use it.
OK, I see.
BTW, is there any foundation about qora ?

foundation?
I mean a foundation to promote qora, such as build website , forum, free give away, third party service....


The developer is planning a website.

Seems to me we should wait till people get coins before any organizing starts.
1829  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | IPO | Escrow | 100% POS | New Source | Beta Available on: May 12, 2014, 07:50:54 AM
I was looking at what NXT asset exchange is doing and quite honestly I'm impressed.

http://www.nxtcommunity.org/nxt-asset-exchange



Clearly 2nd generation currencies are pushing things way past just Bitcoin and we are potentially looking at the birth of a new financial system.

Ok with that said I know its an awkward time to ask and I can see Qora developers are not the kind who knock other developments and boast and hype their own development. But I would love to here what Qora brings to the table that NXT doesn't. I want to know what makes it superior/different to NXT even if its in terms of implementation or future proofing.

This will give supporters on this forum ammunition to engage meaningfully with others especially in terms of other 2nd gen systems.




*NO HURRY TO ANSWER, I'M SURE THIS IS GONNA BE A BUSY WEEK FOR YOU. 
1830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Suggestion to all E-CURRENCY developers, users and nerds. on: May 12, 2014, 07:36:17 AM


 So I don't want to muddy the waters but also we might need to come up with language that goes beyond the concept of currencies and money...possibly we need several terms..


Do we?


In my humble opinion what we need is an easy to remember and easy to use Word. Something that can help us go mainstream. If we come up With more Words and terminology it will only hurt us because already there is a TON of info for newcomers to take in and understand.

 For Bitcoin, ofcourse, it's easy. Bitcoin is more known than cryptocurrency. Yet it is 1 e-currencies of many, and will not be the last. I think its very important for all altcoins to get this change done as fast as possible. If the next "To the moon" comes when all Altcoins are still "Crypto" they won't get as much Money from mainstream as they could. It needs to sound profesional and legit and everyone must use the same Word to describe their digital Magic Money.


What I mean is we can't just call everything a an e-coin when it isn't a coin. I mean what is NXT? I didn't say complicated I said we might need a few....simple ones. e.g a bitcoin is an e-currency, but NXT is a e-currency terminal, or an e-currency platform, module, pod,....or whatever. my point is you can't call distinctly different things the same word, keep easy language but you language still has a purpose to explain and define something specific.


Well, you're right.

And wrong Smiley

NXT is an e-currency, just like bitcoin. As is World of Warcraft's gold and silver. But to call cryptocurrencies the same name as this is not a problem because in 1-5 years everyone will use cryptographic e-currencies.

You're right in the way that we do need to develop a terminology that all e-currencies stick to. Coming together for what "cryptocurrencies" should be called is step 1.


Well you're right and wrong. Smiley

NXT can be termed a currency but it is soooooo much more. I would argue that NXT plays the role of Nasdaq and the Dow in one sense and that's before you talk about the other functions like voting. So we got to separate e-Currencies and also have terms like asset exchanges (which we already have of course.)

I'm not fan boy of NXT cause I think others like Qora, and even NEM may take up most of the market share later if they implement better but have a look at this to get an idea of the future scale of NXT and other 2nd Gen 'coins'. They will make '1st gen' coins almost obsolete.

NXT as units to me are more like tokens or vouchers than currency honestly.

http://www.nxtcommunity.org/nxt-asset-exchange
1831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | IPO | Escrow | 100% POS | New Source | Beta Available on: May 11, 2014, 08:16:15 PM
WTB SOME FOR 10 SATOSHIS Grin

The market has spoken the market cap of qora is now 1000 BTC.  Shocked

So now you can sell me your stake for a market price Grin


Sorry, pass.
1832  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | IPO | Escrow | 100% POS | New Source | Beta Available on: May 11, 2014, 08:07:29 PM
WTB SOME FOR 10 SATOSHIS Grin

The market has spoken the market cap of qora is now 1000 BTC.  Shocked
1833  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | IPO | Escrow | 100% POS | New Source | Beta Available on: May 11, 2014, 07:26:22 PM
Easy fellas. The potential power of this 'coin' is it's long term prospects aiming to be future proof and future functions.


The issue is not the price in a few weeks but in a year or two. Plus with all the crap IPO clone garbage being put out daily it might take a while for people to recognise Qora is not just another clone.
1834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Suggestion to all E-CURRENCY developers, users and nerds. on: May 11, 2014, 02:28:23 PM


 So I don't want to muddy the waters but also we might need to come up with language that goes beyond the concept of currencies and money...possibly we need several terms..


Do we?


In my humble opinion what we need is an easy to remember and easy to use Word. Something that can help us go mainstream. If we come up With more Words and terminology it will only hurt us because already there is a TON of info for newcomers to take in and understand.

 For Bitcoin, ofcourse, it's easy. Bitcoin is more known than cryptocurrency. Yet it is 1 e-currencies of many, and will not be the last. I think its very important for all altcoins to get this change done as fast as possible. If the next "To the moon" comes when all Altcoins are still "Crypto" they won't get as much Money from mainstream as they could. It needs to sound profesional and legit and everyone must use the same Word to describe their digital Magic Money.


What I mean is we can't just call everything a an e-coin when it isn't a coin. I mean what is NXT? I didn't say complicated I said we might need a few....simple ones. e.g a bitcoin is an e-currency, but NXT is a e-currency terminal, or an e-currency platform, module, pod,....or whatever. my point is you can't call distinctly different things the same word, keep easy language but you language still has a purpose to explain and define something specific.
1835  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Suggestion to all E-CURRENCY developers, users and nerds. on: May 11, 2014, 09:36:21 AM
This is an interesting topic, i really like the idea of naming alternative currencies e-currencies.

Often we (coins source) have troubles on the various names we call: "Cryptos, Digital Currencies, Altcoins, Coins and etc."

A unifying name will help understand the already complexity of crypto currencies.

I like: e-coin


It's  interesting that NXT creator who is rumoured to be the creator or Qora have purposely avoided the word coin. I guess because NXT and similar systems are much more that a 'coin'. So I don't want to muddy the waters but also we might need to come up with language that goes beyond the concept of currencies and money...possibly we need several terms..
1836  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Suggestion to all E-CURRENCY developers, users and nerds. on: May 11, 2014, 02:54:02 AM
Thats an interesting point. But aren't other things labelled e-currency like amazon points etc?


I think it's a valid discussion anyway and worth changing. Crypto has a pretty spooky ring to it if you think about it.

Maybe this thread could collect other ideas for a new term and vote eventually..

e- currency
e-money
icurrency
imoney
inter-currency
Webcurrency
inter coins
icoins


well it's a start. We could also have a new word completely made up...
1837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | IPO | Escrow | 100% POS | New Source | Beta Available on: May 11, 2014, 02:45:19 AM
leting people here know the scammer from edgecoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=540017.0) has done it again in NFDcoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=540017.0
ALWAYS use escrow when investing in IPO!

He didn't even bother to change the "hack" message.
It's like he is "proud" in what he does and want people to know its the same person.


Well it only goes to show how special Qora is. If you take away clones, you only have Qora, NXT and Exocoin that are the only genuine innovations out in the wild at the moment.
1838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is it me or is Darkcoin the only coin with real potentional? 100% anonymous wow. on: May 11, 2014, 02:41:49 AM
What's Dark coin gonna do when other coins copy their anominity function?
1839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | IPO | Escrow | 100% POS | New Source | Beta Available on: May 10, 2014, 12:06:18 PM
nice coin.but can not IPO very pity!! Sad Sad

Yeah. I was away the day I saw it and miscalculated the timezone. Came one hour late for the investment... a pity.


People forget that there was plenty of time to buy NXT cheap after it had its IPO. I got a stake but I still might buy some more if the price is decent.
1840  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | IPO | Escrow | 100% POS | New Source | Beta Available on: May 10, 2014, 08:24:13 AM
I saw this on another thread related to NXT and the tired argument about distribution 'fairness' came up.....as always.


I thought this post by some guy/girl should be like a required reading or something against those that bash the POS method. here it is...


"The big flaw in this whole argument about "distribution" is that it's based more on a toy-throwing-out-of-pram premise than any dispassionate appraisal of the "distribution model".

For example. The argument goes that NxT stakeholders stand to make an X0000000 % gain from their investment and that that's somehow "excessive". Whereas if someone buying a currency that had, say 5000 buy-ins and also made an X0000000 % gain - that would be alright.

The fact is that there isn't anywhere near enough market liquidity in any of these currencies for such gains ever to be realised at the amounts of holdings the original stakeholders had. Thats why it doesn't matter if it's 76 or 7600 original holders - it's like melting 2 big blocks of ice or 20 little ones in a jug of water. It dilutes just the same.

If the envisaged potential market for these cryptos is, say 50 million people, then an initial "distribution" of 5000 doesn't look too great either. That's 0.01% of the market getting the initial stake. Thats the real hypocrisy behind these empty criticisms."
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