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1961  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is a good recent coin? on: April 19, 2014, 03:41:27 PM
Qora has just had its IPO. Its a completely new code, similar features to NXt but claims at least to implement them in a different way. Could have anonymous sending at a later date. I invested, whats not to like.

Like NXT there will chance early on to get in at a low price once it hits exchanges. This is expected to be within a month or less as they seem ready to go and exchanges pick up coins so fast these day. I plan to buy more even though I invested heavily, I'm that positive about it. My main reason is if it can do what NXT does but better it could be the dominant coin. We need decentralised trading and we need anominity plus NXT has got such a bad reputation that I fear it will never get given a fair chance and the Clones will just dilute the concept even further. There are my reasons.  



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522102.0


Cause the IPO is over, now you are spamming every thread with your shitcoin.  Before no word about it. Look for your lemmings somewhere else


it's a thread to say what is a good recent coin. I think it's a good recent coin. It's also hardly a shit coin as it's a new code, which puts it in a group of about 5 in existence so far. So Whats your problem Noobface? Don't like facts?

By the way it's hilarious that you choose to criticise Qora and not, Kitehcoin, Coin2 and community coin. And you call a brand new code a shitcoin. I smell NXT fear of a genuinely new coin....
1962  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is a good recent coin? on: April 19, 2014, 02:03:05 PM
Qora has just had its IPO. Its a completely new code, similar features to NXt but claims at least to implement them in a different way. Could have anonymous sending at a later date. I invested, whats not to like.

Like NXT there will chance early on to get in at a low price once it hits exchanges. This is expected to be within a month or less as they seem ready to go and exchanges pick up coins so fast these day. I plan to buy more even though I invested heavily, I'm that positive about it. My main reason is if it can do what NXT does but better it could be the dominant coin. We need decentralised trading and we need anominity plus NXT has got such a bad reputation that I fear it will never get given a fair chance and the Clones will just dilute the concept even further. There are my reasons.  



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522102.0
1963  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Numus (Pow/Pos - Scrypt-Jane) | Decentralized Exchange |Cloud Storage on: April 19, 2014, 10:54:13 AM
Take note that the current investors list is outdated. It shall be updated within the next 4-8 hours.


THIS MAN IS A LIAR!
Bud, all I see you doing is complaining over and over in this thread criticizing every poster here, wheter it be investor or just somebody commenting on the thread. Please stop, I've seen it for a few pages now, every other poster who posts in this thread you call a liar and a scammer.


You joined the forum the day after this IPO and 70% of your posts have been on Numus. Hey Guess what bud, If I didn't know any better I would say you are just another account made to pump this IPO. You wont get more than a few Bitcoin and you must of spent tons of effort on the webiste and paying for the voicce artist etc. Dipshit.. hhahahahahaha

THIS MAN IS A LIAR!
1964  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Numus (Pow/Pos - Scrypt-Jane) | Decentralized Exchange |Cloud Storage on: April 19, 2014, 10:38:51 AM
I have no relation to Duff___Man, he is just a poster in this thread.

nextgencoin, thinks he may have found a correlation between our designs and Duff___Man's design, but as we explained in a previous post that our website makes use of a Bootstrap 3 based design-framework which is in use on many websites, Peercoin being one of them and incidentally Duff___Man's website which explains the similarity in design pattern as the sites use the same design framework.

Thanks for the clarification.

Is it also a coincidence that:
 - your website (numus.org) and Duff___Man's website (coinmart.co) are both hosted by the same provider (namecheap.com) with very similar IPs (162.213.248.249 vs 162.213.248.251)
 - both domains are registered with the same registrar (enom.com)?


hahaha its a scam man, its not just the website stuff, there is also another poster called Shimah who is a cheerleader on this thread acting like he doesn't have any relationship even though his name has been linked to the Developers previous project. Its nothing but pretty pictures and BS I guarantee it.

Honestly I'm getting the popcorn out on the release day to watch this.

I believe a lot of people would of put money into this if I hadn't found out some stuff. Not to big myself up, I'm just glad I saved people some money and stuffed up the Dev's plans.


Have a look at this, pretty much seals the scam. Same website design, same style of video with the same voice over artist! This never went anywhere and was just a scam that died an early death. And it mentions ShimaH in the text too. Hilarious...

http://cryptosource.org/coinmart-co-a-cryptocurrency-marketplace-for-btc-ltc-dgc-in-development/
1965  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Qora or Numus? Which to invest in on: April 19, 2014, 10:35:10 AM
Qora IPO is over since two days

You try to promote your Cunilingus

Is the Qora IPO over?

Yes, it's closed.
Is there any way to still invest in it?

I will answer on this question after Numus client will be released.




So never then..
1966  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: you are all 'reds' on: April 19, 2014, 10:16:06 AM
I agree. Plus with 99.99% of the world not owning any Cryptocurrency you could say anyone with any coins is part of an unfair distribution if you want to go with that flawed argument.


NXT was tarnished by Communists....Its probably the best alt coin we have and its been pushed aside for Marxist Clones. Bitcoin is I believe closely related to Libertarianism and the concept of sound money. ie freedom of the market to determine things and not artificial money printing.

When Satoshi included a reference to an article about The BOE monetary stimulus in first code that was clearly an important issue in his motivation. If governments had sound money based on Gold or other commodities we wouldn't need Crypto. People make me laugh that Bitcoin is all about having quick digital transfers. Its always been about taking manipulation of money away from Governments which is the opposite of what Egalitarian governments want to do. Kind of retarded people talk about egalitarian distribution really.



That is the only fairness the world needs. ie Everyone has the same chance and situation with no group or government able to manipulate money.
1967  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I feel like this forum has become a sea of scam sock puppet accounts. on: April 19, 2014, 09:57:49 AM
I've been finding recently that I can't have a decent discussion with anyone on this forum and end up arguing some stupid point with what I realize is just a scammer with a sock puppet account trying to push a scam or shit coin.
aren't you just a sock puppet for NextGenCoin?

Wrong spelling, it's NextGenCon....LOL


~BCX~


Of course there are also some who have been here since the 90's with hundreds of posts and are still acting like twats....
1968  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I feel like this forum has become a sea of scam sock puppet accounts. on: April 19, 2014, 09:54:06 AM
all due respect, stfu man. you havent been here long enough .


I'm not talking about how long people have been here, I'm saying that there are loads of fake accounts with one or two posts that are made simply to spread FUD etc, so basically any discussion is 50% people talking utter BS to sell something or con someone. ie they don't really think what they are saying, so even trying to reason with many here is pointless. That's got nothing really to do with how long you are here or how many posts you make, its just low post counts are often a sign of sockpuppet scammers with fake opinions... Dipshit.

And with all due respect stfu, I've got more posts than you..... friken Newbie.
1969  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | IPO | Escrow | 100% POS | New Source | Beta Available on: April 19, 2014, 08:36:55 AM
I personally would like to see something a bit different for the Logo. Do we have to have a circle? Why not a square or something else?

I think we don't need all the word Qora in the logo, just the Q maybe or no letter at all.

In some ways you got to decide what is the overarching idea of Qora before you produce a logo or image. Twitter has a bird, napster has a head with headphones etc. Cause Qora doesnt really have meaning, maybe even changing the name is an option?
I think we should change the name of this coin.

I loved the name right from the start. I think it's awesome and the name was one of the reasons I didn't believe Qora ran away with investments. Scamcoins always have shitty names.

But if you have any ideas, please share with everyone.


The develper said the name could change but I think the name is good, but lacks any meaning possibly.

I actually think the name itself has a really nice look and sound to it. Qora is a nice short word to make a nice logo and Q is also a great letter to make a logo in my opinion.

I guess its meaning as 'fence' could be pulled out in the logo...The idea of a safe coin etc..


Just a thought. everyone I assume is pronouncing it  'Kora'  and not 'Kwwora' which would be horrible, hehe.
1970  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Numus (Pow/Pos - Scrypt-Jane) | Decentralized Exchange |Cloud Storage on: April 19, 2014, 08:27:40 AM
Take note that the current investors list is outdated. It shall be updated within the next 4-8 hours.


THIS MAN IS A LIAR!
1971  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | IPO | Escrow | 100% POS | New Source | Beta Available on: April 19, 2014, 07:16:58 AM
I personally would like to see something a bit different for the Logo. Do we have to have a circle? Why not a square or something else?

I think we don't need all the word Qora in the logo, just the Q maybe or no letter at all.

In some ways you got to decide what is the overarching idea of Qora before you produce a logo or image. Twitter has a bird, napster has a head with headphones etc. Cause Qora doesnt really have meaning, maybe even changing the name is an option?
1972  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / I feel like this forum has become a sea of scam sock puppet accounts. on: April 19, 2014, 06:23:55 AM
I've been finding recently that I can't have a decent discussion with anyone on this forum and end up arguing some stupid point with what I realize is just a scammer with a sock puppet account trying to push a scam or shit coin.

I'm all for freedom but seriously most responses to anything ends up being a ton of BS from fake accounts with an agenda.

I feel a jerk for saying this but I'm getting to the point where I think most people with less that 50 posts should just be ignored.


Would it be a crazy idea to implement a payment system to join, with bitcoin of course?

Otherwise this site will collapse into a BS black hole eventually.
1973  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Numus (Pow/Pos - Scrypt-Jane) | Decentralized Exchange |Cloud Storage on: April 19, 2014, 06:19:37 AM
Damn heard about Edgecoin today, feel sorry for those guys


I read your last posts, you are part of the scam. Screw you...

This forum is nothing but scam sockpuppet accounts.
1974  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Numus (Pow/Pos - Scrypt-Jane) | Decentralized Exchange |Cloud Storage on: April 19, 2014, 06:16:29 AM
If investment is made by escrow, what are the cancellation/withdrawal terms for investors? Assuming it is not a blatant scam (i.e. nothing delivered), until what point can we potentially say "we're out" and ask Anon136 for funds to be returned?



If you are not satisfied with the completed product, i.e. if we don't live up to your expectations you may ask for a return from Anon136. Take note though that there is no rule stating that you must keep your funds until whatever point, if your a dissatisfied for any reason or if you simply need to use the funds you put in escrow for whatever reason you can always ask Anon136 for a refund.

Its this crap that makes the Developer look legit when he seems to happily accept Escrow when he knows full well the majority wont use the Escrow and will send directly to him. Escrow is good but you GO TO USE IT!!!!


This is a scam but at least protect yourself.

And of course you wouldn't happen to have a bias opinion now would you? Have an investment in some other coin perhaps?

Not saying this is good or bad coin, but your argument is just dumb, and a bias one at that.
Just thinking the same thing. nextgen what you just said is the fact that developer is doing good things like providing escrow that makes him bad??


No Escrow is good. But as I already know it's a scam it gives legitimacy to a scam, that's beyond dispute.

Now if people use Escrow, great, no harm done. Bit what I've found is that once an Escrow is offered people usually more than 50% don't use it and send money directly. The developers know that and are tricking people into their scam. If you read what I had wrote previously then you wouldn't argue this is not a scam. are you part of scam?

What people should do is only trust generally developers who ONLY accept Escrow. That would show they are trustworthy and have nothing to hide.
1975  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | IPO | Escrow | 100% POS | New Source | Beta Available on: April 19, 2014, 05:34:55 AM
A couple of options.




I would take any one of those logos for the coin. Did you use a website or did you make them from scratch? 
1976  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXTL: Next Coin Lite - Register accounts for investors. on: April 18, 2014, 08:56:50 PM

I am a member and the # is 1038

NxtL acount # - 1241612316565798908

Thx!


I still don't get why the developer accepts obvious sockpuppets like this. This guy joined today and posted some three word posts that mean nothing and it all looks legit. And by the looks of it the previous handful of posts are his too. I mean unless at the same time a guy with asian name posts on almost the same threads and then posts this here. Obviously some are making a ton of them, but more so those who only have one stake won't gain much.


It's a kick in the teeth who gave some early trust for this coin.
1977  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Numus (Pow/Pos - Scrypt-Jane) | Decentralized Exchange |Cloud Storage on: April 18, 2014, 08:19:55 PM
If investment is made by escrow, what are the cancellation/withdrawal terms for investors? Assuming it is not a blatant scam (i.e. nothing delivered), until what point can we potentially say "we're out" and ask Anon136 for funds to be returned?



If you are not satisfied with the completed product, i.e. if we don't live up to your expectations you may ask for a return from Anon136. Take note though that there is no rule stating that you must keep your funds until whatever point, if your a dissatisfied for any reason or if you simply need to use the funds you put in escrow for whatever reason you can always ask Anon136 for a refund.

Its this crap that makes the Developer look legit when he seems to happily accept Escrow when he knows full well the majority wont use the Escrow and will send directly to him. Escrow is good but you GO TO USE IT!!!!


This is a scam but at least protect yourself.

And of course you wouldn't happen to have a bias opinion now would you? Have an investment in some other coin perhaps?

Not saying this is good or bad coin, but your argument is just dumb, and a bias one at that.


Just saying an argument is dumb is what dumb people say. Why is it dumb, spell it out. And are you suggesting people don't use Escrow?

And yeah I'm biased toward coins that exist compared to coins that don't, yeah I friken am. Any coin, I mean any coin that exists including Tittie coin is gonna be better than Numus, cause Numus doesn't exist. I bet you 1BTC if you want to put your money where your mouth is?
1978  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Numus (Pow/Pos - Scrypt-Jane) | Decentralized Exchange |Cloud Storage on: April 18, 2014, 04:28:26 PM
If investment is made by escrow, what are the cancellation/withdrawal terms for investors? Assuming it is not a blatant scam (i.e. nothing delivered), until what point can we potentially say "we're out" and ask Anon136 for funds to be returned?



If you are not satisfied with the completed product, i.e. if we don't live up to your expectations you may ask for a return from Anon136. Take note though that there is no rule stating that you must keep your funds until whatever point, if your a dissatisfied for any reason or if you simply need to use the funds you put in escrow for whatever reason you can always ask Anon136 for a refund.

Its this crap that makes the Developer look legit when he seems to happily accept Escrow when he knows full well the majority wont use the Escrow and will send directly to him. Escrow is good but you GO TO USE IT!!!!


This is a scam but at least protect yourself.
1979  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Numus (Pow/Pos - Scrypt-Jane) | Decentralized Exchange |Cloud Storage on: April 18, 2014, 04:23:11 PM
Read this and if you still don't use Escrow then your so stupid you deserve to lose money and it probably is better off in the hands of the scammers who are likely to be more intelligent than you.

I'm sorry to break this to everyone that has already sent bitcoin to Numus but I am going to prove to you that this is a scam!


1.I looked though the guy above Duff-Man's posts, he has been involved in various website designs. He also started a thread the same time as this thread to discuss Numus giving lots of info but claiming he was nothing to do with the project but thought it was interesting. He was aggressive when Numus was criticized or compared to NXT.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=547545.0


2. Its seems he is a website designer who has worked on various projects that are legit like digital coins but he also has worked on a project with ShimalH who is also on this thread cheering Nummus along and acting like he knows nothing. I encourage people to look through Duff-Mans posts and realize he uses almost the same style and logos on his work. I could give loads of links but here's just one example.

a. look for round logo below 'quick':     http://numus.org/#about

b. Look for same on logo on his work here:    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=369985.msg3952297#msg3952297


So above coinmarket project seemed if you look at the thread after trying to get investors dropped off the map Dec 2013.


3. So I conclude Duff-Man working with ShimalH (real or imaginary) has created nothing more than a well made website. The Whitepaper has no real tech knowledge and is just a bunch of promises and nice graphics. So I'm afraid this really is a scam, a quite elaborate one but a scam all the same. Even if the coin actually exists the owner is clearly a lying and deceptive guy with a history of well presented fake IPO's and is nothing more than a good website designer who probably is now wishing he has used some more variety in his logos and style, hehehe


I take Bitcoins for anyone who was going to invest and I have saved them some money and me being so awesome and all.

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Yours Sincerely Sherlock Holmes.
1980  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | IPO | Escrow | 100% POS | New Source | Beta Available on: April 18, 2014, 03:59:52 PM
Its not that simple. I'm an investor in NXT but I struggle to use and see the system as user friendly for the masses. Apart from Bitcoin that does have some flaws there is clearly room for a system that might have similar functions but puts it together in a way that the masses can use and we can see mass adoption. WE are very early in the age of Digital currencies. The field is very much open. This is all about who will inspire mass adoption, so far even Bitcoin is a tiny, tiny fraction of money movement in the world.

That is the difference between protocols, networks and user interfaces. The latter is for the masses, the former two are for a solid foundation.

Maybe, somebody could explain to me why Average Joe knowing nothing about Congestion Avoidance and Traffic Control yet is able to use Chrome.


Clearly there is a battle for dominance in this market. The underlying system does have an influence on what people perceive is the best system even if its told to them by experts. People don't really understand how Bitcoin works but after 5 mins they can see people can see their transactions so they arent anonomous and they must wait a few minutes before they can send safely Bitcoin. NXT transfers in an instant, as does Ripple, innovation is coming as new protocols are coded.

But if you think the battle for dominant system that the masses might be using in 10 years time is as its already decided? I would love to know what you think it is?

Why not go out into the street and ask the first person you see and ask them if they are using Bitcoin or NXT for their digital transactions. Like I said its an open field, we don't know what protocol or network the average person will be using years from now...if any.


In Crypto people love to use the analogy of FB and Myspace, but I think a better one is Windows VS Mac O.S. Because certain decisions high up in Buisness way away from the consumer meant Microsoft won because they got the licence for PC's. Its this kind of unknown that is being battled not at the consumer level but at the developer level that will influence the future for Crypto I believe.
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