Ypu know I'm nothing to do with the distribution, right?

Qora is the developer, he will answer your concerns I'm sure. I personally didn't even use Escrow. Bit I think Qora knows who the stakeholders are so I assume you will get a PM like the rest of us with your options. It's not even starting till tomorrow so..

I didn't start this thread to hype another coin. But if you think I was right when I started this thread then you might want to have a look at another coin that really is about to explode. I am invested in it early, cause that's what I do, invest in the long term quality, life is to short to piss around with shit coins. Qora like NXT will be a buy and hold IMO. Plus there are rumors that Qora developer is BCNext. I've been looking at their posts, there is a definite Possibily it's true. Even if not it's a very exciting project, almost unknown at the moment.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522102.0



Of course as a stakeholder I would say this, but I'm willing to bet my reputation that this like NXT is going to make people who know quality some money. It's WILL be a top 10 market cap coin.

That actually has a lot of benefits, it rules out anyone on BTT even moderators using your PM BUT there are some negatives.

1. Many people on here don't like to give email to people, it breaks the principal of anominity and privacy for many people.

2. How can Qora know our email unless we broadcast it to everyone and have it I unhidden? Again many don't want that and it opens up the possibility for the hacker types on here to know your email address to hack. Ie Not good.

3. Personally when I joined many moons ago I used a temp email. I don't like to give my email address away on forums like this. I don't think I can therefore even use that email address again.


It could be a great secondary check for some people I think if we don't have any better ideas. maybe as an option.

I wish someone else would look and comment on writing coincidences, otherwise im gonna have to do it..

Is this whole site sockpuppets?

I would prefer longer or let an independent group of well known coders look it over for the community. Source code will just make certain people attack Qora from all angles and then starting their own 'fair' (wince) coin. 6 Months would be a minimum in my opinion. The only people who ever read it are scammers looking to make some bitcoin imo.




Would you be open to opening it up to the Qora community to have some say/vote in the release?

Gratefully would be my guess.




ok ok this Friday, if you have a stake look at for a message soonish from the developer in your PM.   

I'm not sure I agree on Dgex killing Qora but I accept they have some negativity attached to them. Personally I think its undeserved but its a valid criticism.

I personally don't think any exchange can kill a quality coin. Even with all the FUD thrown at NXT its doing fine. I'm actually not that concerned cause I believe quality floats to the top in the end. I think we shouldn't focus on its price but more on its development, the rest will fall into place after making a quality product. 

This isn't directed at you and I try not to swear but seriously who gives a shit about Mintpal. Its just another exchange who has seemed to convince people its really important to get on there and people actually pay just to vote for a coin. Its the exchange of desperate men trying to pump some crap coin imo.

This is my take. Exchanges (if they are smart and want the volume and trading fees) should be begging for Qora to be on their exchanges. Have some confidence people this is a top tier coin. Who knows maybe top coin at least of 2nd Gen coins. That's my gut feeling. Don't tarnish its image with desperation. Peace.

No one needs to create an exchange, just not farm out the coin to all the exchanges, maybe just a few quality ones.

This is pure speculation but sometimes the developer has some control over who can trade due to compatibility issues with wallets etc that need to be worked out by the Dev.




One thought I want to throw out. I learnt in Economic that there are some products that sell well because they have a high price and are 'exclusive' or Luxury. They therefore need to be priced high to have this air of value. e.g once a Gucci bag cost $50 no one will want one. And you don't sell a real luxury product in Walmart but in an exclusive setting. Which is a reason why I think Qora is cheapened by putting it with the junk coins. Plus its why I feel strongly that Qora don't release the source code anytime soon and have a million crappy clones. I hope this roll out goes as well as it has so far. I'm hopeful.




And look, I respect and understand the opposite opinion but I wanted to put the other side of the argument out there cause its rarely heard and to me its a no brainer.

Doesn't anyone think we should move slower and have an incubation period where the coin has chance to develop and work out any function issues?


I feel like some are looking at it as a pump and dump rather than a potential beater of other coins. Being spread over tons of exchanges means one thing, low volume and unstable market if people try to sell. I've seen this before where people involved in NXT would be high fiving each other because they got on another exchange with the ultimate goal to get on Cryptsy!....and everytime the price dropped a bit more.


The developer may well disagree with me but I want to follow his timetable, plan and vision for the coin whatever it is so we are in lockstep with his vision. And if that means getting on tons of exchanges then cool..

You make zero sense but thanks anyway.

But what do you think about this?  If NXT is king and Qora is BCNext what does that do to NXT's future?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579858.msg6710560#msg6710560

Today I looked through the posts of BCNext.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=152600;sa=showPosts;start=40


And Qora posts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=289537;sa=showPosts;start=20




I'm invested in both coins and am fascinated but the idea of them being the same guy. I have my doubts but seriously they both speak in almost exactly the same way. really high quality English but you can tell with some grammar they are not native speakers. Not Asian or Russian but most likely European.  So Qora has said he is from Europe possibly said Netherlands (not sure) and BCNExt has almost the same quality of English. They both fro example say things like I can not, instead of can't or Will not instead of won't. Good English but clearly not Native.


So I spent about an hour scanning their posts. I might do a real study fo them. Sherlock Holmes is my hero, im a nerd like that.

So apart from the Obvious language similarity. I noted a few things

1. The speak very minimally. They don't chit chat, just short bursts of talk mainly focused on the work involved.
2. BCnext has stated he works alone due to his bad experiences working with other developers. BUT he says he has a guy who works on the client. Now we also know that Qora works alone and also said he has a guy who works on the client. (quite a coincidence if you think about it)
3. They both use Java (not the most common programming language for coins and I believe NXT and Qora are the only coins programmed in java. I would like confirmation on this?
4. Both share in my mind behavior traits. Polite, don't attack others, mild mannered.
5. BCNext disappeared off the map end of last year. Qora appeared this year ie no overlap (its weak but worthy of note)
6. The simple fact Qora is VERY similar to NXt but a new code, but seems to improve on some things and is different in its implementation (Qora has claimed).
 


I'm interested in what another pair of eyes could find?

There are some language mistakes on both but it would take quite a bit of time to record and see any links. If no one does it I will at some point, but would be far quicker with a few more eyes. I have a hunch that there is a couple of unique spelling mistakes in them that could raise the odds of them being the same person. Just a bit lazy to do it right now.

Fair enough I guess I like the idea of Dgex due to their focus so far at least on NXT and 2nd Gen coins and so getting on there gives some visibility and does the work of PR in someways by making clear this 'coin' is different. I personally would like in an ideal world to see it on Bter for the massive Chinese market and Dgex to single the coin out as clearly not one of the crowd. Other exchanges I couldn't care less about, even Cryptsy. Just an opinion, I don't expect everyone to agree.

But with coins like Coin2 on it I don't feel all warm and fuzzy just yet.



Good that Chinese can easily buy, bad that it could be lost in the crowd.

What does cataloged mean?

Not to be negative but if being on an exchange with every other crap coin is good news I hate to hear the bad news.

I personally would prefer to be on something more dedicated to 2nd gen coins like Dgex.

In fact i think I might PM DGEX to ask him if its possible.

I don't like the fact Ripple is gaining acceptance where it was always aiming for ie The mainstream. But I can't deny it either.

I do wonder how exactly these banks will implement it though. I can't ever see people using the complex trust methods of Ripple. I guess Capital one will just buy a certain amount if ripple and use it as currency that they will control and insure....I guess like colored coins.

All these threads just attract people posting their garbage. We know what are the half decent ones cause they are in the top 10 of market cap. though that doesn't meant they are all good either.