It's really too bad Brimstone and everyone else ended up getting screwed in this. He bought some Chilis and Habaneros from us, and he was always a really good guy to deal with. One of the real tragedies of things like this is that a lot of the kind of guys who bought from us or from Marto are small enthusiasts who genuinely like to tinker with hardware.
The flip side of this was when Avalon screwed over some great 3rd party makers who would have been supportive of those who are interested still in tinkering. We used to have a larger ecosystem too bad it is gone. There are always a small number of people who will screw everyone over as well as a number of people to ENABLE them. Martin was given support too long... and mark my words Avalon is going to turn on the community again given their nature. |
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Yeah, I know better than to expect any real resolution here.
What sucks is, I really like the idea of third-party manufacturers making non-crappy miners, but Technobit is sorta ruining the landscape. It's not gonna be difficult to be better at delivery and customer service than they are, but will anyone even be interested in independent manufacturers if all the representatives are either overt scammers or only mostly scammers?
1st party or 3rd very very very few are legit or without any baggage. Been a long wait to see the end game with Technobit and Martin but it was very clear what type of person and company this was early on given how he was treating his customers. Doesn't take a lot to be honest. Just need the right people involved. |
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Someone please wake me up when one of these have actually been delivered to a customer, and spotted in the wild with a review done.
Sure I will once I got my hardware and I will do youtube un-boxing and pictures as well so the ass holes here can believe there is a hardware from HC! LOL I guess they will say this time a photoshop pictures lool I'm looking forward to reading your unboxing and product review any day now...  We all are... LukeJr. had an unboxing right? |
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He mentioned in this thread that he'd look into it, but that was five or six weeks ago.
He usually offers he will "check", he will "ship", he will "rma", he will insert "excuse here". Suggest the person who is seeking a resolution reports him to the Bulgarian authorities. http://www.ecc.bg/submit-a-complaint.htmAnd to really get his attention go to his other thread and post in red and badger him till he either refunds the person or as he has done in the past blacklists you and refuses to refund or compensate. Either way report him. |
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So not this guy? Yeah, I am owed 19 boards. I received 6 so if anyone wants some just let me know.
Hey Marto, did you ever follow up and find out where this guy's boards went? I still have one hundred air coolers that have been sitting in boxes in the corner of my hosting room for EIGHT MONTHS without a single word. wait a second... Hey Marto, did you ever follow up and find out where this guy's boards went? I still have one hundred air coolers that have been sitting in boxes in the corner of my hosting room for EIGHT MONTHS without a single word.Should post this in his support thread so he can see it. Doubt he will even glance in here. |
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Oh, hey there bick. Didn't recognize you with the new haircut. Looks like avatars are working again? As for the coin price, I highly suspect it'll drop several percent by this time tomorrow because it's invoice time and every time we get invoices paid in coin the price bottoms just before I have time to cash out.
How low will it go? I am guessing a Sub 100$ sometime this year. How high will it go? I am guessing a Over 400$ sometime this year. (Coincides with shipping of your boards.) |
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I'm ashamed of myself for only now seeing this thread. Keep up the good work mate  Keen to see this go all the way. Undoubtedly, let us hope the price of BTC cooperates at the time the boards arrive in the buyers hands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8d3dr7-fdU |
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...they either have a totally crappy and unprofessional marketing section (hello Tanja) or are a scam.
Future will show...
I will go with Scam & Shills for $1000 Alex. |
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WOW, can't believe they went tits up and now trying the same game under different name.
They were respectable until the whole BlackArrow thing but like all(most) crypto companies large and small they set up shop one day gone the next. That's why these forums are needed. That is not entirely true there were plenty of questionable issues well before the Black Arrow situation. Particularly with regards to other Chinese fabricators and what they took without paying for the product. This was a scam to get refunds on working product they lied about them not working and used 3rd parties as the scapegoat. There is a LONG history stretching back to scam days of Matt with his mixing coins site. Look at the trail of that Gleb pointed out with the data centers. Plenty of broken promises to the clients, and employees and landlords. |
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Look at some of the other current tech SP20, S5, Avalon 4.1 etc.
You can run with a underclock if you want quiet. But I would personally never order from BFL.
SP20s you'll need to get 2nd hand from other forum users, you'll find listings here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=75.0Avalon4s you can get from ehash.com S5s from bitmaintech.com how are those avalon 4s miners? Finally got to start testing one of the Avalon 4's out. They are VERY quiet. It if first miner I have put in my bedroom for fun as I test it. No other miner I have comes close to it on it's low noise output. Ya but what is the BTC output vs. what you paid? Let us be real. |
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I purchased an SP20 from OregonMines over the weekend. I have to say that everything has gone smoothly so far, except for the outage that Oregonmines announced in this thread. Even that one hiccup was handled professionally, as they quickly got back to me once I noticed that it was down, gave me an estimate as to when it would be back up, and got it back up within that estimate. They also agreed to credit me for a full day, even though I lost less than a full day.
After expressing interest in purchasing the SP20, I received an invoice generated by Quickbooks from DG Rollins Mining, LLC. The invoice was for the cost of the unit, plus a month's hosting costs. OM agreed to run the unit underclocked, and charged me accordingly. I paid the invoice using bitcoin. I checked my pool about 10 minutes later, and the miner was already running. Other than the downtime mentioned above, the miner has run consistently and at the expected speed.
The one service I wish they offered is the ability to change pools myself through a web interface or something similar. Hopefully this is something that can be added in the future. That said, I haven't had a need to change pools yet, and OM has said that they will change pools upon request. However, especially with hosted services, I like to test out how the miner responds at different pools, so this would be a helpful added feature. I should add that Lee, who I suppose is their competitor, also does not offer this service.
Overall, I'm happy with my experience with OM. It appears to be a professionally run operation.
Thanks for taking the risk What's the underclocked performance? It ranges from 1.38 Ths to 1.42 Ths at the pool, just about what I expected. Just an update two weeks later, I have not had any downtime or any issues with OM's service. This is no longer an issue regarding service. You are supporting a company that is associated with theft and fraud to satisfy your own greed. Honestly I hope anyone that invests in this gets burned, you get what you deserve. Customers of Minersource will need to send their legal papers to Mathew Carson at Oregon Mines I guess. They should also be aware that Minersource was owned by Mathew's Dad who is also an Owner of Oregon Mines. So there would be good reason to make sure that nothing owned by creditors is also now somehow owned by Oregon Mines. Considering Oregon Mines is not being forthright about that aspect it would be best for creditors to work together to force Oregon Mines to give up information or get legal representation and police or federal agencies like the FTC / FBI involved in this given what has transpired as that will be the only way to get some traction on this. I will leave this thread let others who were injured by Minersource, Mathew and Mathew's Father and possibly by Tom and Terrence Thurber. There is nothing more to do here than hope that those who were ripped off by Mathew and his Father and possibly Tom and Terrence Thurber are made whole again. Clearly Oregon Mines should not be trusted. Dealing with Oregon Mines is something that you would do at great risk irregardless of what platitudes Tom gives you the injuries should be resolved if he wants ANYONE to trust his sons business again. There are several other places to buy / rent hosted miners that have EXCELLENT reputations. Hashnest and PCFLI's are the two best examples at this point. Although realistically no-cloud mining or hosted situation will give you a positive ROI. You are best to simply buy BTC from reputable places and hold if you are looking to invest. |
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No info at this time... Please wait for the official announcement BitmainWarranty any updates?
Like a time range? like in 1-12 months?
Anything yet?  |
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Here's the first short list of questions passed along to me from a number of concerned Minersource creditors:Has Miner Hosting LLC (Minersource) filed for bankruptcy, if so can you post the court documents? Did Matt Carson steal all his customers hosted miners and/or bring them to Oregon Mines (there are lots of reports of Minersource hosted miners going offline and not being returned to customers), how can former Minersource customers get back their hosted miners? Have any Minersource assets been misappropriated for use in Oregon Mines. Can we have someone independently come and verify this with your company records? Why are you liquidating former Minersource assets on your ebay page http://stores.ebay.com/OregonMinesTheDalles ? (This would appear to be a fraudulent conveyance.) Is Matt attempting to hide assets from creditors by transferring assets to Oregon Mines or selling them below their actual value to Oregon mines? Where should former Minersource customers that were defrauded send court summons paperwork? --- Note: When you called me on the phone I clearly indicated to you that you had to tell people how to reach Matt and to come clean about your involvement with Matt and his association with your company. You did not do that until now when evidence surfaced and I would again strongly warn anyone off using your services until there is a resolution for minersource creditors (customers). Time to seek or prepare for a legal solution as well as call in local or federal agents to investigate this as soon as possible. That would include a long look at Oregon Mines books / assets for any cross over from Minersource. Unfortunately given what I know of your relationship with Matt and past dealings with Miner suppliers in China I would say there is a lot more to this situation and your word is not sufficient. It would be important to independently verify your statements made here.
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Guess who was at the Oregon Mines booth at the Texas Bitcoin Conference. ( http://texasbitcoinconference.com/conferences/austin2015#sponsors).  Interesting. So you can all ask Matthew to give you your refunds if you are looking for him. He is working for Oregon Mines. Be careful dealing with this company. Minersource was just one more iteration of the same thing obviously Matt Carson is totally involved in this company as a VP. |
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No no just NO. Seriously. You are not getting value for money Buy 3 and I'll ship (within the US) for free. what is the power consumption of each one?? i guess send me the consumption of one with a working fan so i have correct numbers. i coulda sworn i saw something about it being .5w per gh or somewhat lower then that but when i looked on their site the numbers were much higher at .7-.8w per gh which is weird because they claim its a top contender for efficient mining which is deff a lie and has been long before they actually started shipping them so do urs have numbers around the first set or around the second set?? If you underclock them they get 0.5w/GH but then they only get about 450gh/s each. They also don't get hot like that. This is how I'm running them now, but I need to make room for faster equipment. |
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Are you tied into hashcoins somehow? Your post history just has a lot of focus on them.
I can't be the only one who find it a bit suspicious that 100% of hashcoins supporters/customers are noobs whose entire posting history consists of hashcoins related posts. Shills gotta shill. |
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You have been warned. Govern yourself accordingly. I would say that the warning was ignored, and that you can send me the excel that I will format for hashfast.org along with his full name so that I can start a page on him as well. I certainly wouldn't want to have a psychopath as an employee. Going Postal? |
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Yep, fabricating in the USA. If we can make it for less than $20 we'll probably drop the price. If we can't sell it for the price we're asking, we won't make 'em. Simple as that. The primary reason we're moving forward on making them is because plenty of people have stated they want them, and from the beginning we've said we were shooting for a maximum price of $20. I could make it fifty cents cheaper if I wanted to use a low-end fixed-voltage regulator or a tiny boring heatsink but the point is to make it an awesome learning tool instead of a boring toy. You gotta consider that the per-chip complexity is an order of magnitude greater than for a full miner, given that a full miner will have one VRM and one UART bridge and 18 chips, where this has one VRM and one UART bridge and one chip.
What do you consider a "respectable margin" on a product like this?
If it costs you 20$ to make it I think you are being very generous to the community. Gotta have some return on your design time etc. got no doubt at 20$ they will sell out. |
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Any others out there not received their orders from Marto lately?
Nice of you to delete my post because I had a positive experience, are you seriously so desperate to make them look bad you won't even have one postive view as a counter argument when you know that you'll get more bad experiences because ragers need a place to post. It's quite pathetic Bicknellski, now if you want to make a real scam accusation how about you make one where both sides can openly say their experience and not just the side your on. How about you review Martin's latest failures and comment? |
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I asked for a refund of 217.50 EUR on 2013-12-10 !!!!!!!!!I just want to get the refund of 217,50 EUR asap, because I will not wait more weeks, months or years for the refund. I wait since 2013-12-10 for the refund and got no money back. You know my paypal adress (why you asked for it, when you not refund?), so refund me! 10 days waiting time is over for lots of weeks! GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK YOU SCAMMERS OF TECHNOBIT.EU! It doesn't end here... it continues on today. You spam more than 100 msg in all my treads.
This is another lie! See my post count of currently 60+. it means refund - i have seen on paypal!
After a long time this is the good end of my story with technobit.eu.
Here we go. Technobit.eu is just a scammer. This is arbitrariness at its best!Marto, you can not sent this buyer incomplete miner. He canceled it a while ago and you ask him for paypal to refund.
You're right, But it is more worse: I am not a buyer anymore because I CANCELED the order on 2013-12-09 and asked for a refund on 2013-12-10. The scammer from Technobit.eu, here marto74, told me about a refund waiting time of max. 10 days and until Christmas 2013. This was another lie from Technobit.eu, So I asked again for a refund at 2014-01-07 via Technobit.eu contact form: I asked for a refund on 2013-12-09, but there is no payment from Technobit on my bank account. ... I will wait for 7 days up to 2014-01-12 for the refund, which needs just one business day here in the European Union. So please refund the amount of 217.50 EUR to my bank account (SEPA (EU)/SWIFT): ... But, NOTHING happens. Marto74 (Technobit.eu) is still laughing, because I am a victim of his fraudulent scam company Technobit.eu. Why you marto73 (Technobit.eu) told me the refund needs max 10 days? Why you marto73 (Technobit.eu) asked me for my paypal adress to refund me, but did nothing? You marto73 (Technobit.eu) wrote via contact form on 2014-01-10: We are able to do this paypal so please give us paypal account Why you marto73 (Technobit.eu) Yesterday decide to deliver products I did a refund request for it (order canceled)? You marto73 (Technobit.eu) wrote via contact form on 2013-12-18: HI, I believe I did answer this already
in 10 days since 12 of December Best Martin Subject: Re: Cancel and refund of Order ID: FESYNGABJ Hello, when you are going to refund the paid money? Thanks in advance for your answer. Order ID was FESYNGABJ Best regards ... Am 10.12.2013 01:31, schrieb refund@technobit.eu: > OK > Will be done in 10 days> > Best Technobit > > From: ... > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 1:21 PM > To: refund@technobit.eu> Subject: Cancel and refund of Order ID: FESYNGABJ > > Hello, > > I thought I purchased the product, which is viewable on the picture. Order ID is FESYNGABJ. Please cancel this order in full and refund me. Thanks. > > ... > > Best regards > ... > > Order ID : FESYNGABJ >
CAUTION: DON'T BUY FROM THE TECHNOBIT.EU SCAMMERS!
Have a look at this Warning thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358439.0 |
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