Good is a relative term...

Some relief in the BTC price be nice.

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/sp30-yukon-september-batch-2

Emissions Compliance

FCC / CE

Safety Certification

CE

Biggest take away after meeting Rockxie in Hong Kong was that reputation was the most important thing to him and his team. I am glad to see that even in tough times this remains the cornerstone of their business. Looking forward to 2015 I can only imagine what you will bring to the market will still be successful even as others have started to turn away from the fabrication of miners.

+1 Hoping Norway doesn't ding me too bad when they get shipped to the DC there. Fingers crossed.

I am hoping the compensation make for a shorter haul to breakeven land... come on BTC rise!

Meh... just ignore the quotes. Thanks again for stepping up and giving some reassurance about the PSUs etc. I am really keen on seeing my SP30s arrive in Norway and belt out some bitcoins. I am really keen on seeing the 3rd Gen Pick Axe as well when it comes out. Definitely something that DIY's that are still chugging along will want to get their hands on as soon as they drop.

Thanks for all the hard work. Can't wait to see what magic you can shake out of the box with the FW.

+1 ...

Even though you said you wouldn't moderate a moderated thread it might be time. Or opt for SPTech forum for people who are customers.

Depends on BTC price but yes that is fair assessment. They will provide the top end of the 28nm chip for sure and it will out perform pretty much everything else. ROI? Let us see what October and beyond brings. 3rd Gen is going to be the one to look at for DIY teams as well.

Yes and timeline for the August GB etc will be nice.

I assumed 20 something of August for my unit based on the original estimates that RoadStress and SPTech gave when we were ordering.

WTF you talking about?

The MODS moved the posts to politics.

Leave me out of your hate filled rants.

Ignored you. You are a fucking dipshit and there is a lot of unnecessary posts in this thread as it is. As a CUSTOMER with an actual ORDER I'd rather hear from SPTech than the you and those who are hell bent on this crap. Don't drag me into your shit start another thread and go whine and cry there.

Yes... the 3rd gen... hmmmm speed less power.... dreams of BTC at 1000$ plus.

I have dealt with Beastlymac in good and bad times and I know him to be honest and fair in all his dealings. This situation has strained the limits of how to handle complaints. First I think the party that is HARMED should be doing the speaking and directly communicating with Beastlymac and you will get a result that will be fair. Having someone speak for a brother or friend etc is not how this should be handled. All I know is I have risked 1000s of dollars with Beastlymac and in each case there has been a satisfactory resolution.

Unlike most scammers he is not lying, not trying to cover up he is trying to work through the problem and get a fair resolution. If you are being antagonistic and throwing misinformation and speaking for someone else when you are not involved then I wonder how you expect a resolution.

Suffice to say Beastlymac is not and never has been a scammer and given the effort he has put in here to resolve the issue with this person who isn't even the claimant I am amazed he remained as calm and focused on the resolution. There are some real bad eggs in bitcointalk Beastlymac is definitely a white hat in this. I think it is clearly a vindication of his moral and ethical compass. Communication via forum to resolve such a dispute is not ideal but inflaming the situation and name calling and threats were unnecessary given what I know of Beastlymac he would have worked on a resolution without the need of the injured party proxy starting a thread like this.

Why you no sticky?

Thanks RoadStress.

Start a thread on BOYCOTTs then unless you are going to go into every fabricators thread and call for the same you are being a hypocrite and this is not the topic being discussed here anyhow. You are bringing political discourse into a hardware thread and that is off topic. I can dig up shit on pretty much most nations on their abuse of power and institutional violence towards segments of their own populations as well as outside their borders of control. That is another topic.

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Edit: Start a topic on boycotting Spondoolies-Tech and I will join you there to debate the ineffectiveness of boycotts in general and what other local measures you should employ to see peace in our lifetime planet wide. Boycotts on Spondoolies Tech will never affect real political change inside Israel and their policies towards Palestine. Nor will it stop the death of more children in Gaza. Peace is a work in progress on a continuum of thousands of years not on weak gestures that have little or no effect. Education is the only weapon that works against institutional violence be it rockets and tunnels or F-16s and missiles.  You were RED TAGGED for tagging SPTech for no other reason than you don't like how they sell their equipment and yet you didn't do that to other fabricators who do pre-sales as well. You were a hypocrite then even more of hypocrite now and you sure seem to enjoy playing games with mining fabricators given your history with suppliers they should boycott you as a customer. Start a thread and let's debate the issues.

It is not about SUPPORT. It is about actively engaging in boycotts. Are you boycotting those nations that are engaged in disproportionate violence at the state level? This thread is not about boycotts start your own thread so we can debate the validity of that elsewhere. I would argue that boycotting one supplier in this fashion is hypocritical at best given the overwhelming evidence available about atrocities committed in the name of nationalism by the Chinese, US and Russian governments. Where were your boycotts on Bitmain, Bitfury and US based fabricators and suppliers or services in bitcoin?

Hypocrisy.

If you are not boycotting US, Chinese or Russian based fabricators as well as those EU nations that sell weapons to Israel then you are a hypocrite. http://www.democracynow.org/2014/7/2/despite_peaceful_reputation_sweden_a_major

What you think you are doing and what you are actually doing have nothing to do with me or hitting nerves or anyone's soft spot or tender regions. I generally could careless what you imagine affects me and my posts. You might want to reflect on the number of times you post the same thing and then determine on whether it is edifying for others. In this case you are plainly grinding gears and making the same point 2x or 3x or 4x doesn't offer anyone solace. We all can easily check that anything over $1 GH/s is too high for ROI now and that is slipping to the high end given the fact that BTC has dropped $100 this month. Pissing on Ntek for sport?

I have purchased things too. I have talked with builders of these miners too. I have met with a number of people that build miners and you know what most of them are not complete assholes and in fact you bought some units off me so you know I am not asshole. Ry and Ntek are not the same douchebags that come on these forums and try and sell crap to an unwary public. They have tried to put out a product that they designed themselves and remarkably they have given a lot even though they were screwed by the chip providers in this case as well as some nefarious engineers that led them astray.

You might want actually talk to Ry in person and get his take on this unit and his company price aside he is good people and so is his company. All I see here is someone that doesn't know Ry being a bit less than polite to a team that has really fought to get something to market and who has tried to make his customers whole. Given the douchebags in this marketplace you might want to spend your observational time on those that continually scam or lie to their customers. Ntek in my view is fighting the good fight and those are the types of companies we want here in Bitcoinland ESPECIALLY when they are US based. Given what I have seen from the US this company is a bright spot for the US given the utter BS we have seen from the US fabs since 2011.

Thought you stated that already.

I think we get it the first time and the second time. Shall there be a third and a fourth?

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Ry... sorry was not scrolling back to read through everything been kind of lost since the training program I ran 2 weeks ago. Thanks for the update. Yes the fact that Bitmine.ch was less than forthright about things did make this build a nightmare for you and your team. Given what hiccups they caused then the fact they didn't really explain the deal they had with Innosilicon upfront sure made your initial premise for building these units change as soon as A1 chips flooded the market. Bitmine caused you considerable time and effort or your products would have been on mining a lot sooner than they were.

I hope things go better in the last part of 2014 and into 2015.