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On topic.
WPC has invited both these fools to the meetings months ago they didn't bother to respond to the invite. Just like Josh Zerlan didn't. BCP didn't.
You want answers come to the meeting. Just set it up with Beastlymac he will get you squared away. Again like I said I doubt Marto74 is going to accept and I most definitely sure Loshia won't accept.
Back to ignoring both of them.
Note: I will be emailing the WPC members this if they haven't seen it.
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Great information.
Got any data to share on your products?
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You should rise above all this Bick, really, it doesn't do you or your project credit.
Not anymore getting spammed in PM's and in posts ended that. Pretty much done with the keep it civil and rise above it. Let us see how Marto74 enjoys a good PR campaign. It is time for people who have been pushed around by Marto74 and Loshia to stand up be counted. There are enough complaints here to make this thread viable. |
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1. Who is Josh Zipkin?
2. Who is Josh Zipkin?
3. Who is cooperating with AMT?
Let us get to the reality.
Why is Loshia spamming me in every thread? I suspect it is because Marto74 who has on many occasion failed to compensate people adequately Loshia feels the need to stir the pot because he doesn't want to people to dig any deeper into his bosses history.
Again any accusations you have bring it to the WPC meeting this Saturday Loshia. We would LOVE to hear your theories and we can answer all your questions. Like last time you won't come. You will hide and ignore that you have been invited. Just like your boss Marto74 has done for months hiding behind his "record". It gets really tiresome you playing these silly games. You want a resolution with the me and the WPC on the record come to the meeting.
I am pretty sure that a few of the Members who are still owed money by Marto74 would love to ask him why he has failed to pay them back.
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Clearly there are a lot of people who have had issues with Technobit and Marto74. This thread is for those who would like to post their complaints so that everyone in the community can see what has transpired without the needless trash and troll or deletion of other threads. This is a safe place to post your complaints and concerns. --------- Note we will be removing troll posts of Marto74 and others and they seem to want to spam post for no other reason than wasting their own time. So no need to react anyone their posts get removed. Let them waste their effort. He has his threads let him play there. If you have a complaint or want to add to the reasons you were screwed over by Technobit feel free to post. We want to make sure we keep the dog and pony show of Marto74 spread out over all his 7 to 10 threads he has, don't worry he will make more. When he reimburses everyone and stops cheating people then he is welcome to make the last post here and then we will lock the thread. Now that Marto74 has wasted better than half a day waiting for the next post... how about we just push the post until tomorrow. The games he is playing add up to lost time for him there are many ways to exact justice. Wasting his time is justice served given how many hours he has taken from his customers. Keep watching and waiting Marto74. We know you can't look away. Keep posting and wasting your minutes, hours, days, weeks and then months on this please, it is well worth it knowing you can't get this time back.--------- Updated List of Injured Parties[Group Buy] Avalon chips Escrow John K May 27, 2013, 18:09:59darkfriend77: Requested 7% fees to be returned. Refuses to pay anything of what he promised out of spite. souspeed: Unkown. Min€r: Unkown. patica: Unkown. hacko.bg: Unkown. mbd4: Unkown. fex: Unkown. joeventura: Requested 7% fees to be returned as well as refund for chips. Refuses to pay anything of what he promised out of spite. souspeed: Unkown. varunsin: Unkown. pajak666: Requested 7% fees to be returned. Still no resolution. Betatester: Unkown. LainZ: Unkown. hookthem: Unkown. jkminkov: Unkown. TECHNOBIT S-HASH minig board and Bitfury October delivery chip distributionadami: Unkown. gcube1305: I have wait 3 month for a board that never came, but i've been refunded. oscurito23: Unkown. wallydz: Unkown. warhawk187: Unkown. vulgartrendkill: Unkown. easynote: Late delivery after many complaints. jammertr: Unkown. basd82: Unkown. whiteEAGLE: Unkown. ccfly: Unkown. streetuff: Unkown. seaandy: Refunded only after repeated hounding and posting in threads. Waited inordinately long for the refund. falinka: Unkown. wuzamarine: Poorly Hashing Unit. Unkown. lancelot6: Failed Unit. Replacement requested. Unkown. Moikka2: Unkown. dplusf: Unkown. cannachris: Unkown. hennessy10009: No refund even though it was requested. Sent completed board with others chips. Had to pester them daily on there forum. btcminer84: Asked for refund. Refund promised. Refund not sent. Miner to be shipped against wishes. No refund or miners sent. Still unresolved. Paratech: Still nothing delivered. No information and just empty promises. [ANN] Technobit HEX8A1 -240 GHs Coincraft A1 board-289braindead: Where is my November order? sacskate: Just trying to give you guys a heads up, he still has lots of refunds and late orders to take care of, with no sense of urgency on his end to do so.Destiffmast: Why should I not be entitled for compensation same way as "older" customers and get a board from first batch?whiteEAGLE: I hope lot of people order this new miner, so Martin can send refund for older undelivered miners.After a long wait and many compliant letters to Marto he was refund through paypal.
"I´m done with him, no more orders." - whiteEAGLE southerngentuk: You told that guy you would refund him. For your own respect just do it. Where all tired of his posts, damn, even he is tired of his posts. But I quite see where he is coming from..Wotan777: Refund and why don't you answer messages?Marto, please answer.Order ref is UICAWGFJDroy7: In the mean time, ignoring the user prevents it from ever being noticed again. dspbuy: Please do not send me the miner now. It is too late. I have made the order more than 4 months ago, so the miner is now completely worthless (due to drop in BTC value and increase of mining difficulty). I would like to have my money back please (you may send me in BTC). Do you realize that this is theft? Do we really need to escalate this? What do I need to do to get my money back? Go to the police?Pug: No delivery yet / order status "Preparation in progress"wunch: I asked a question similar to this question on my order page but have not seen any response for 6 days.grana: I understand everything, but I paid 3 months ago, I no longer have patience!Here now everyone can see who they are Tehnobit and Martin Sirakov ...
I want my money back!
TEHNOBIT IS A SCAMTylerRice: Are you going to be getting units out on time. You was only 1 month late with my Hex16 board so not too bad, But yeah jsut wanted to see if we had a target time for my order (Ref: HTHYKSJQD)opodark: I never received answer for my order 23-11-2013 SZYESJVZP (1/2 week of december) , paid for express delivery and received in 07-01-2014 with standard courier.btcminer84: You told me, the refund need 10 days since 12 of December 2013. So, WHERE is my refund? I never got it.
Order: FESYNGABJ placed on 2013-12-07 13:24:27
Payment: Bank Wireglen123: Hi Marto :
what about my RMA ?
Order Reference IXRPCAXWX -- placed on 2014-04-25
About 20 Days
Send 2 Emails to Office and on this Thread.
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BFL_Josh said: 06-10-2014 11:34 PM Update is going to come tomorrow, since there's some language in there that will provide some dates and I don't want to commit to something we can't deliver and I need to review it prior to posting it. heh almost matches word for word imho what he has quoted before " i don't want to comit to something we can't deliver" i guess 'two more weeks' has been recycled Searing Copy paste 65nm Copy paste excuses Copy paste 1 year to deliver. Nothing original in BFL's repertoire. |
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Bad timing.
Sucks. Always late night for this side of the world. |
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Found my "Time to Choose Shipping or hosting, which will it be?" Email. As a member of our special SP30 group buy, you are eligible to choose weather you
would like to have your unit shipped to you or sent to our partner's data center in the US. Can we dare to dream early? No... doubtful. That be too much to ask for. |
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So final update on the PSUs:
10 ASIC acquired. 2 died. 1 replaced by BFL RMA (only took 11 days costing me about 11 BTC). 2nd one was not RMAed because BFL refused to answer PMs/emails/phonecalls - should have sent it to lightfoot. All 10 PSUs that came with the units are now dead. 3 caught on fire or smoldered. 1 killed a Gigabyte moherboard and USB mouse/keyboard (mobo was fortunately replaced under warranty).
So Josh can keep with his less than 1% failure rate BS. In my possession 2/10 ASICs have died (not counting PSUs). Counting PSUs the failure rate passes 50% at 12/20.
Unfortunately I have no ref to compare to other ASICs since I neither bought others nor have I bothered to tracked how well/poorly they have faired.
Not heard or seen a lot of brick problems in the threads of other fabricators. Really the PSU issues are a localized BFL nightmare. You did RMA the two messed up ASICs right? |
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IMO its very hard to make ROI now better buy bitcoin directly.
I disagree with that assessment. You sound just like a broker who says "Invest in these mutual funds from our company, they are better", and then gets paid commission for it. Anybody that says to just buy BTC and hold it is just advising people to buy BTC so that more demand is created, so that they can sell the BTC they already have mined at a higher price. haha. While that may very well be true, the OP proposed an idea and asked for input. We're all giving our opinions - intelligent or asinine. Feel free to buy up miners and mine away. As long as you're not pushing GHash.IO I'm OK with that. Sadly if people weren't so competitive (I refrained from calling them greedy since almost all will be losing) then people wouldn't be forced to colocate and everybody could have a simple miner at home to support the network. Now everybody has to have their miners hosted  Need another coin a serious edit to Bitcoin for that to work. |
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100% failure on those bricks. Amazing. Wonder how these Monarch's will do in real world testing. I doubt they ever leave the test bench. --- Edit for Loshia: Or magically disappear like Technobit stuff that returns back to Technobit but then they swear it was stolen enroute or blame their customers saying the customers lied about the receiving the shipment. Marto74 can't edit the poll results out. Building miners doesn't mean you get to ignore your customers complaints. BFL is just an extreme case. Technobit is just as shifty. Every thread you quote me from now on Loshia I will be editing and remarking on how Techonobit's failures and their obvious foul treatment of customers and failure to take responsibility for shipping problems and late or missing items. Keep spamming me Loshia it just makes for a new opportunity to provide the community with more information about the shit techonobit has been trying to bury. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=564612.0Question: What is you personal experience with Technobit products
Very good - 12 (22.2%)
Good quality but late - 16 (29.6%)
Good quality but very late - 13 (24.1%)
Poor quality - 0 (0%)
Poor quality and very late - 6 (11.1%)
Disaster - 7 (13%)
Total Voters: 54 |
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This is off topic but better lock this thread since majority opinion disagree with OP...
Huh? Disagree? The point is who cares I think. People are going to buy these things from "stock" if they are mining or not. This is not pre-order BFL type shit and they rarely mess up the shipping unlike Technobit where things magically disappear then reappear back at Technobit. |
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I made a day SC Single order in June 2012 and by the time I realized the lies coming out of BFL I pretty much wrote off the 209 BTC I paid since even if BFL somehow gave me a refund it would buy less than 12BTC at the time the Single was delivered 13 months later in July 2013. So people have ordered last year are basically repeating what happened with the 65nm stuff (just without the Jalapeno vs little single vs single drama).
So should we be expecting Luke to get 1 and BFL to claim they have started shipping? Are they going to send units out to every tech blog under the sun?
DrG I think Luke already got something. They couldn't play with the boards they have unless he did that work right? Funny he is pretty quiet on all that I assumed he was still under BFL contract right? Who was the person in the Monarch video? That would be a good question. Voice is Kiwi / Aussie right? |
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No.
If you are not willing to lose all the money you put into a pre-order then do not pre-order. Risk is relative and there are a few companies that do deliver on time and at specification from the a pre-order position. But agreed best advice never pre-order.
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Edit: Oh look I have my own personal spammer in every thread almost nice. Loshia here to quote and go off topic. See he hasn't learned to deal with the fact that old Marto is a con man. Simple solution to your hate there Loshia tell your Boss Marto to pay people what he owes no amount BS posts by you Loshia is going to hide the fact he has cheated people out of their money. The evidence is in the forums it won't go away no matter how much you spam me, about me or about the WPC. You keep going we will see in the end who is still a crook.
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Any new additions to the list?
Must be a few now with the latest BS from BFL on the Monarch delays.
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Ok so let me get this straight.
You have stock because you likely over produced the miners.
So you mine them and then you sell them as orders come in.
Did anyone ask if they were new?
Did anyone ask if they were mined previously?
Is there any statement anywhere on the site they are new and never mined?
Just wondering.
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I confirm the receipt of the ID card from marto74. I will be issuing the escrow contract shortly.
Maybe if you have the time you could comment on what has happened here. Obviously there are people still owed by Marto. |
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Why would anyone believe you at this point BCP? 0 credibility.
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you forgot:
IT IS A FACT THAT OVER 10% OF THE FTC COMPLAINTS ARE DUPLICATES.
Another fact is that you aren't hashing with your Monarch! There are duplicates? Proof BCP? You make a claim so now prove it. |
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Not sure I understand what 'fragmentary results' you would like to see?
It would be best for you if you've reviewed the posts from bitfury. It was his first ASIC and he went directly into full custom. See how he dealt with disbelievers. You can just read his English posts although his detractors were mostly posting in Russian and his responses were in Russian too. Basically, we want to see that there is a real technical depth in your organization. What we don't want to see is another Cointerra, where the "dream team" was really part-timers that quickly disassociated themselves from the CEO and the only technical person left was some German guy on a temporary visa in the USA. Your post, while quite good overall, essentially looks like a case study done by an MBA student. Edit: You can also review Spondoolies-Tech posts. The forum account is mostly manned by a their CEO, who isn't afraid to admit that he doesn't understand some technical issues, but is always capable of delegating the Q/A to an appropriate person within his organization. Edit2: some grammar fixes You might want to start showing your cards technically you are clearly losing the PR war. Time to listen to 2112 and show the slide-rules what you really have if you have anything that is. Pretty documents are one thing having some clear "results" that the engineers here can pour over and determine if you have a viable concept or not is what you have to do now. No one on these boards is going to give you a pass. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence was a phrase made popular by Carl Sagan let us see what evidence you can provide. |
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