Over the technobit AMT kerfufle a couple months back:
[6/12/2014 11:57:49 AM] Joshua: Yea martin's not pissed, he said he figure it out pretty quick. All is wel
[6/12/2014 11:58:17 AM] Joshua: its kinda hard to break up two guys who's wive's are friends. Its what they are trying to do it seems

Could you provide a link to gandalfG's profile please.

To clarify, no hostility intended, just curious.

+1

Game over for these 2 clowns.

Those ship from the US, right?

Happy 7-weeks-since-ordering-paying-Anniversary to all! Anyone ordered/paid before 17th July?

As someone who worked for BFL long before your tour of Willy Wonka's chocolate factory and whoring yourself out BCP, I actually feel sorry for you. At first I was angry at your obvious shilling and knew you were on the payroll before everyone else did here. I was once in your position to an extent, but on a managerial level. I too thought it was a wonderful place to be and defended BFL everywhere I could, but then one day I woke up and looked in the mirror and realized what I was doing. I took a call from a soldier who was about to retire who wanted to spend all his retirement money on a minirig and as a former soldier, I just couldn't do it. My moral compass, conscience, and empathy for the common man took over and I realized that our customers weren't the greedy one's that we treated with contempt but that they just wanted their products. BFL was the greedy entity. So I left with no backup plan or job in waiting, nothing, because I couldn't do it anymore. I didn't believe anymore, but I didn't leave without a fight to do the right thing, they just didn't want to do it.

I know you feel you are doing the right thing here by defending them, but you're not. No points will ever be made and accepted by anybody here. Your company will still be the bane of the Bitcoin mining world no matter what you say your claims are dubious enough after you've been caught being dishonest here before and making strawmen. Any frontrunning, Apple-inspired design by BFL has been lost on the consumers due to lies, obfuscation and lateness. A website had to be bought to bring down the negative google searches. The Monarch is a late, hideous Frankenstein of a miner that should never have taken that long to build if your company didn't focus so much on aesthetics instead of delivering products to their customers, or investors as I like to call it. I know how all the finances went down there and one day when BFL shutters its doors I will write a book about it and the mining industry as a whole due to my experience with many different companies.

Having said that, there are some good people who work there at BFL who I still maintain friendships with. From what I have gathered from your posts, you are not one of them. But you still have time to change.

In the future, I suggest we ignore BCP's posts as they add nothing to the discussion and only deflect attention away from BFL, which is the point. No arguments will be won, so why try? The facts alone are damning enough without his input.

Be awesome.

Go DIE Bitmain, stop ripping people off!!!
1.6BTC for 1TH ... wtf!
http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=27428630902&dcosts=1.6&diff_mincrease=15&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=1000000&diff_mincreasedecrease=0.5&btcusd=1&dpowcon=0&btcusd_mincrease=0&pcost=.11&calcweeks=15&dleadtime=0&action=calc#

Before I type my little idea scenario here, I am not advocating the use of these ideas.  

For some reason I cannot stop thinking about what to do with all this leftover mining equipment when difficulty and electric cost make my S3 miners unprofitable. My imagination runs wild with ideas. I read on bitcointalk ideas for using miners as space heaters while obvious generating small amounts of bitcoin. What a great idea! Of course taking into account cost, electric efficiency, and heat output of a space heater and comparing it to a bitcoin miner. This again has me thinking.

We hear about “botnets” or these big malware viruses that can be downloaded on a victim’s computer and then start mining bitcoin for a perpetrator. One computer might not add up to a lot of bitcoin, but spread it out over 100,000 downloaders and I’m sure it starts becoming profitable. However, the same rule applies to these malware creators as it does miners. Difficulty will always raise making the operation less profitable as time goes on. Instead of stealing computer resources to mine bitcoin, crypto-crooks will have to move on to something else. Electricity.

Here’s a scenario I see happening in the future. S3 miners become no longer efficient because of electricity rates and difficulty. They drop in price and are very affordable. Crypto-crook “Steve” attaches a wifi antenna to his S3 board heads to the nearest Starbucks, or even a nice highway rest area. Steve slides a piece of the drop ceiling out of place in the bathroom, and taps into the electricity from the florescent light. He plugs in his S3 miner, and connects it to the free wifi. There you have it, Steve is now running a rig that is virtually untraceable if found, and will run until it IS found. Or until it burns down the building lol. Which is another thing we might see.

We see reports of people using workplace servers to mine bitcoin, and there is always chatter in the forums about moving into a college dorm with electric included and running a few miners. Imagine a tech guy at a small but busy doctor’s office throwing an S3 miner on the server rack. No one would question it unless a new tech guy got hired.

Do you guys think electricity theft or even just ‘scheming’ with included electricity is going to turn into a big thing once we hit our climax of ASIC hardware? I think we are going to see some clever and useful, but also dangerous and illegal activates start taking place.

Bicknellski, at the "end of the day", aren't all the producers of mining equipment at this point just scamming the people that want @home miners?

Yes, for bitcoin miners..

Some companies offered warranty if units break down or not performing as expected within limited period after delivery.
They promised replacement or compensation...

Pretty sure BFL_Josh made that post after this thread was made, rofl. I don't know what timezone Bitcointalk and the BFL Forums use, if they're the same, then BFL_Josh made that thread 12 hours after this thread was made.

We like challenges.

before joing group buy check trust feedback of creator

you can be scammed and get your trust ruined...

Minersource is going the way of MtGox and folding under their own weight. Minersource was robbed by a Chinese company named Black Arrow, who promised mining machines to american customers through Minersource on a preorder basis. Americans preordered and Black Arrow under-delivered 5 months past due. In trying to obtain a refund for myself, I was informed that Minersource had sent absolutely every last bit of their money to China in exchange for miners we will likely never receive. Now, myself and a few hundred others are in the process of seeking legal action against Minersource for violating Federal Mail order fraud laws. They can't pay refunds because they sent all the money to China and they're going to have a hard time paying for a defense attorney. As of this week, the financial situation at Minersource has turned absolutely dire, they have run out of money and had to disconnect their phones. Which I'm guessing also means that they had to fire that little sex-kitten the woman that answered the phones for them.

So let this be a lesson to anyone trying to buy hardware from them in the near future. If it's not on-hand and shipping immediately, don't bother, because this company won't be around long enough to fill many more orders.

I have a pre-order from December 2013 that is unfulfilled with no known delivery date.
My refund request has been denied and subsequent contact so far has been ignored.

So, yeah, do not order from Minersource.net