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821  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does Mass Surveillance Lower Crime? on: June 22, 2020, 04:33:30 AM
In my opinion, it is certainly a possible deterrent for the general population, in order to prevent them from at least doing anything that they might regret doing later if they're aware that big brother is watching.

Also, it could possibly be a deterrent to the common criminal only. But for organized crime syndicates, it would not affect them too much, because these criminal minds are very well planned and sophisticated enough to provide their own measures to avoid mass surveillance.

While this may be true for some, I don't see it as being true for all criminals. But this is highly dependent on the area of the world that you're in. If you're in a place like Russia, China, North Korea, etc -- where all of your information is being tracked extensively by groups like the NSA (their equivalent in these countries) and is used against common citizens, you're most likely going to stop committing petty crime because you know the government is using their extensive data on everyone.

In the US, this isn't typically the case. Even if the NSA is able to prove that you're committing some sort of crime, lets say Fraud from your encrypted data that they have a backdoor too, this information isn't shared with Federal/State prosecutors so they don't know this. Information isn't shared between this groups for 'everyday' crimes, but they are shared for activities that are classified as Treason, Terrorist Activities, Etc.

822  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The media is really bored - June 21st world is ending (FALSE) on: June 22, 2020, 04:17:00 AM
Shouldn't be surprised that an article like this was put out on Express, or even anywhere at this point (minus some of the more respected outlets, such as WSJ, NYTimes, etc)

The media game at this point is all sensationalized stories that people will click on because of the crazy headline and then just share it because of the headline without reading into anything past this. The media does this because the money (for ads) is in the views. Nothing else really matters because people aren't going to 'turn against' biased reporting because they really don't care enough to vet properly.

We're in an interesting situation to say the least.
823  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon on: June 22, 2020, 04:11:50 AM
In regards to the Trump rallies and everyone yelling and screaming about it not being filled to full occupancy -- I mean, what the fuck? Obviously tons of people weren't going to be comfortable with filling a place like this up.

Many Twitter, TikTok, and other people fucking around with Trumps rally tickets and reservation systems so even if more people wanted to go their ticket may have been given to a troll.

You've got people like Pink going on twitter and saying they've sold out centers like that in 5 mins -- DOUBT YA DID THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF A FUCKING PANDEMIC.

Lord. I didn't agree with holding a rally, but lord these people will jump on anything if it fits their worldview.
824  Other / Politics & Society / Re: John Bolton fired by President Trump - BREAKING on: June 22, 2020, 04:02:42 AM
snip - Lot of writing, had to snip.

You're right right when it comes to the first part about it being about the money for Bolton. The Democrats are currently saying the same thing -- as Bolton had every opportunity to sit in-front of Congress and come and talk, or at least try to do so (as the Administration would've put up a fight.) Here's the tweet from Schiff (https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/1274888946682601473) as he talks about the fact that this was totally about the money for Bolton.

John Bolton is going to be hurt from doing this, the DOJ is 100% going to try to take away his book advance and remove whatever financial incentive the guy had to do this.

This book will lead to MANY investigations by the House Democrats -- unsure if they will have the same amount of news coverage as the Ukraine Scandal, as there are many other things in the world right now as the Coronavirus is still ravaging the nation.

As always, we'll see.
825  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com | Crypto Powered Sportsbook and Casino | 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: June 18, 2020, 04:07:44 PM
Going to assume that this is a pretty commonly asked for thing, but is there anyway there could be an XMR integration on Stake? I know the other coins are great and all, but the privacy benefits of using XMR would really be wanted on a site like this.

Would be amazing for the privacy of the users.
826  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia! Do not nuke us! on: June 18, 2020, 03:52:00 PM
~snip~

Aren't you not funny yourself? As always, there is no evidence of Russian or Chinese espionage. Anyone can write an article on Wikipedia. Such articles are written to intimidate citizens and under this pretext to get funds for the state defense of the country (in fact, for officials to live better than anyone else). To be able to control people, they must have fear of the enemy from the outside.

Not sure why there is some anger in this. I literally put the Wikipedia source there as the quote and then put the original article below it. I ALSO said that all of this was allegedly, as there is no way to know if this is true without an outside source confirming it. Here is more articles referencing this alleged situation:

https://www.abc.net.au/7.30/finland-facing-the-threat-of-russian-hackers/11874880
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/finland-cyber-warfare-russia-online-internet-attack-a8563761.html
https://cdn.defenseone.com/b/defenseone/interstitial.html?v=9.21.3&rf=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.defenseone.com%2Ftechnology%2F2018%2F07%2Fchinese-hackers-targeted-internet-things-during-trump-putin-summit%2F149873%2F
https://us.boell.org/en/2019/07/02/how-europes-smallest-nations-are-battling-russias-cyberattacks

and so on and so forth.

I understanding the questioning here, but I did provide information.
827  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon on: June 18, 2020, 03:35:14 PM
It is interesting to see how you have the spark of mind to include this option back in december 2019.
The BLM / Floyd situation (not yet resolved) is a little bit early in the year to have an impact on the November elections (ie cancel them).
But who knows.... maybe more riots for later in the years (BLM or other social issues) and the martial law might be invoked.

As you can see by the reference to Martians I wasn't particularly serious about that possibility back then but with Trump's authoritarian leanings I think there's a non-zero chance of him trying to push the election around if he sees it not going his way. Rioting provides a good excuse it's just that it might not last until November. However... given the year we're having there could well be some other crisis or two at the convenient time. Even friggin' Martians are probably looking at this shit and thinking "let's just put face masks on and invade, nobody will see it coming".

Sadly I don't think anyone on Earth right not would be surprised if we had a real UFO sighting and aliens started invading. Shit would probably be thrown into the 'WHAT THE FUCK IS 2020 pile'

Elections are NOT going to be cancelled. I highly doubt that Trump is going to be able to pull off some fucking Frank Underwood shit from House of Cards to try to sway this his way.

Still a long long way to the election folks. Comey changed the fate of the Clinton vs Trump election 6 (I think) days before the race by announcing that the case against Clinton was reopening.

828  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How will people earn a living after COVID-19? on: June 18, 2020, 03:18:49 PM
[snip

But all of the information regarding the Rothschilds being the people that run the world and all of that is laughable. They don't run the world. The real rich people do --> Bezos, Gates, Buffet, and the big US companies (and intl ones)

Is the family collectively worth a lot of money and have a lot of influence? Yes. But they're not as influential and rich as everyone makes them out to be.

The conspiracies against them started due to antisemitism towards Jewish people who were (and are) wealthy. Lot of BS on the internet regarding them. They're scapegoated a ton --> Like Jewish people in history are.
829  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia! Do not nuke us! on: June 18, 2020, 03:13:27 PM
Hey, I have peacefully plea for the international community! Do not nuke Finland!

In my opinion, Russia has never had any disagreements or claims against Finland. I live in Russia and I am sure that your fear is based on delusions. The Russians are good guys and they never attacked anyone first, but only defended themselves. It's not in our interest.

Heh, wouldn't go that far in regards to Russia and Finland never having any issues. They share a border so there's going to be some international tensions that showcases itself as some point.

Most recent cause of tension was allegations of Russia spying on Finland, see below Wiki article:

China and Russia are suspected of large-scale spying of the IT networks at the Ministry for Foreign Affairs (Finland). The spying focused on data traffic between Finland and the European Union, and is believed to have continued for four years. The spying was uncovered in spring 2013, and as of October 2013 the Finnish Security Intelligence Service (Supo) was investigating the breach.[5]

Source wikipedia uses: https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/mtv3_large-scale_network_spying_uncovered_at_mfa/6911394
830  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone... What are your thoughts on it? on: June 18, 2020, 02:19:57 PM
I don't know what you mean, but if you have a specific problem with something on there it shouldn't be a dealbreaker.  Its all approximate.   You could look at other ones that have been filled out with people.  These individuals are all in the correct vacinity but different people might have subtle disagreements about the exact positioning of where they are.  No one should confuse Stalin's position with Chomsky's though.


Oh it wasn't me saying that the chart you sent was wrong, it was me saying that I thought all of the lines themselves -- the cut off points if you will -- are a bit abritrary and left up to intepretation. I'd say if you ask 1000 Poly Science professors you'd find conflicting views on the matter as well.

So yeah, I think we agree with this. Nothing wrong here.

I don't know what you mean, but if you have a specific problem with something on there it shouldn't be a dealbreaker.  Its all approximate.   You could look at other ones that have been filled out with people.  These individuals are all in the correct vacinity but different people might have subtle disagreements about the exact positioning of where they are.  No one should confuse Stalin's position with Chomsky's though.


How would you describe somebody who is full-tilt authoritarian when their party is in power and full-tilt libertarian when they are not? Asking for a friend.

A regular person, lol.
831  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does Mass Surveillance Lower Crime? on: June 18, 2020, 02:02:34 PM
What type of crime?

Because US Survilenace hasn't stopped one single large scale terrorist attack from happening - https://theintercept.com/2015/11/17/u-s-mass-surveillance-has-no-record-of-thwarting-large-terror-attacks-regardless-of-snowden-leaks/ - and this is the literal reason the government uses when people ask why are you spying on us.

Small scale crime? Not really targeted with mass surveilance. If it was we'd know about it pretty quickly. Hard to keep the lid on that one.

The government isn't going to release this sort of data for the sake of journalists writing a piece on national security. Divulging the attacks stopped by National Intelligence might cause unrest simply because of the implication of what could have happened, causing irrational fear, or having people question how the government got a hold of the intelligence in the first place.

The U.S. government absolutely spies on its citizens and there isn't any denying that. See the Vault 7 link I posted above. No one can reasonably expect them to come out and admit it or brag about how many terrorist attacks they've stopped.  

But the case that I was referring to wasn't where journalists were asking, this was a piece of information that was leaked to (even if unclassified internally) to the intercept talking about terrorist cases from ISIL - https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2515184/isil-related-arrests-in-homeland-from-jan2014.pdf

See here:

CIA Director John Brennan asserted on Monday that “many of these terrorist operations are uncovered and thwarted before they’re able to be carried out,” and lamented the post-Snowden “handwringing” that has made that job more difficult.

But the reason there haven’t been any large-scale terror attacks by ISIS in the U.S. is not because they were averted by the intelligence community, but because — with the possible exception of one that was foiled by local police — none were actually planned.

and

The recent history of terror arrests linked to ISIS is documented in an internal unclassified Department of Homeland Security document provided to The Intercept via SecureDrop. It shows that terror arrests between January 2014 and September 2015 linked to ISIS were largely of people trying to travel abroad, provide material support, or plan attacks that were essentially imaginary.

Honestly the whole article is very good - https://theintercept.com/2015/11/17/u-s-mass-surveillance-has-no-record-of-thwarting-large-terror-attacks-regardless-of-snowden-leaks/

832  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia! Do not nuke us! on: June 18, 2020, 01:54:42 PM
Not sure on exactly why OP wrote this, going to assume it has something to do with Trump allegedly asking his aides if Finland was apart of Russia -- this has led to people mocking him for doing so. All of these allegations / claims are from John Boltons newest book, which is set to be released soon (pending Justice Department trying to stop it)

But if that's not what you're talking about --> No one is going to nuke anyone. All that would cause is nuclear warfare to end this whole nice world thing we have going on.
833  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Chinese creating digital database of men's DNA on: June 18, 2020, 01:01:52 PM
Communist corrupt governments need everything in their power to  control their people so they can maintain a grip on their government. China's looking at Hong Kong and are pretty desperate to not have it repeated in other cities so they'll monitor and track each one of their citizens so they can suppress them.

China also has over a million Muslims that are in concentration camps but first world countries sort of stand idle because going against their authoritarian regime is not simplistic. They have the U.S. by the balls economically. They have a large nuclear arsenal and control over their residents through fear. I wouldn't be surprised if the U.S. would go to war with China within the next few decades. They've also gotten overly aggressive in the South China sea. Something's bound to happen.

And to think that to top of all this AI surveillance they got going on, these guys are building a digital currency that can track all monetary transactions too. Privacy is pretty much over in there.

China was using facial recognition software against Hong Kong protesters and considering their censorship of the internet, you have zero privacy no matter what you do. Give it a little time before AI takes off and it's over.

Not just communism to make this happen.

It's any Authoritarian government. I'd go even further to say it ends up dripping down into democratic governments at some point as well.

So think of it like this --> China, Russia, and other dictatorships are going to try to do this at first --> Then slowly the US will begin to do it and other nations will follow.

Horrid about the Chinese Muslims in concentration camps. I've seen some of those video leaks that are coming out, on the horrible conditions and how these people are treated, and it's disgusting that we have a society have just ignored it. We all said "Never Again" to the survivors of the Holocaust, but we're literally letting another one happen right before our eyes.
834  Other / Politics & Society / Re: One more nail in the coffin of your privacy... on: June 18, 2020, 12:36:37 PM
Doubt.

This article from RT really doesn't have much there, and it doesn't really seem to be something that would be able to work anyway. How are we able to know if this is legitimate? They're the ones that are showing us pixelated photos and then showing us random pictures that correspond to it.

Literally just a new face generated. Not some weird way to grab peoples face from pixelated / grainy photos.

It doesn't need to be a new face - using machine learning and big data, this is possible!  If you have the digital image of every face you are interested in (the entire country for example) the AI will learn from experience which processing to do on each pixel to produce sets of pixels that are recognizable - over and over.  At first it probably rejects 999,999,999 out of a billion generations that do not generate a recognizable image in their database, but as it learns the rejection goes down.  This is one of the solutions that will be helped by Quantum Computing.   

True on the Quantum Computing part, though thankfully we're not there yet (to the best of all of our knowledge) -- so we don't know how close we are to seeing this come to reality.

I meant more that at the time this was not possible. No way to audit if the pictures in this article / gifs in this article are legitimate.

But yeah, you're right on the Quantum Computnig side of things. Though when we're there we're going to have much larger issues then privacy.
835  Other / Politics & Society / Re: One more nail in the coffin of your privacy... on: June 18, 2020, 04:56:23 AM
Doubt.

This article from RT really doesn't have much there, and it doesn't really seem to be something that would be able to work anyway. How are we able to know if this is legitimate? They're the ones that are showing us pixelated photos and then showing us random pictures that correspond to it.

Literally just a new face generated. Not some weird way to grab peoples face from pixelated / grainy photos.
836  Other / Politics & Society / Re: John Bolton fired by President Trump - BREAKING on: June 18, 2020, 04:37:03 AM
Bolton is claiming in his book that Trump asked President Xi to buy up farm goods to help his re-election campaign.

I have no idea if this is true or not but this will be damaging to Trump politicallynot sure about this. Bolton has always wanted the US to basically be at war with nearly every country that isn’t our ally and even argued that a preemptive nuclear strike against NK would be appropriate. This is approximately the polar opposite of Trumps position on American wars. Bolton may be trying to get revenge for pulling troops out of Syria and/or Germany, he might be trying to get on the anti Trump bandwagon to make a few bucks, or it may be true.

I would expect Trump to get impeached again over this, however I doubt anything will come of it. I doubt impeaching Trump ~2 months (based on an estimate as to when this might happen) before an election probably won’t look good for Democrats, especially considering Trump was just acquitted for doing basically the same thing with another country earlier this year. I am not sure this would even be illegal.

The Trump DOJ sued Bolton yesterday to stop his book from being published on National security grounds, but what I assume is the most damaging excerpt was just published in the newspaper, probably making the suit moot.  

First time I've ever thought that people would be backing Bolton. Guy is typically horribly unpopular because of his warhawk views on everything. Problem is that Trump knew all of these things, and hired him anyway. Guy was a hawk, acted like a hawk, and then was fired. Trump even encouraged his hawk views at certain points.

Yeah the most damaging excerpt is out. Only way Trump can get out of this unscathed (mostly) if he's able to prove that Bolton is

#1) Another lying disgruntled employee --> Though this one is hard to prove now, too many of these in the admin.

#2) Outright Lying --> Have Xi come out and administration (non political appointed) people come out and say that this isn't true. Releasing some sort of documentation to back them.

#3) Show that he just made some shit up for the money.

This is going to be a rough time for the administration if they're unable to spin this properly. But yeah -- this coming out in a book is some pretty big BS. Should've blown the whistle the proper way if he didn't care about just making $$$
837  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Chinese creating digital database of men's DNA on: June 18, 2020, 04:22:09 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/17/world/asia/China-DNA-surveillance.html

Right now it's being done in the interest of crime.  But it opens the door to eventually deny expensive treatments to citizens who are deemed "genetically inferior".  

Same thing the Germans did in WW2 - but now we have the technology to be much more efficient.  :/

It's always "In the interest of Crime" until it isn't, lol. Same reason we have the patriot act and everything else that just rips apart our right to privacy.

Horrible things China is doing, I'd say that I hope the rest of the world condemns them, but we know that's not going to happen. The rest of the world would love to do the same thing -- China is just the pilot program to see how people react. Most are just going to say some shit like "Well it's not in my country" .... yet.

For anyone having issues with paywalls on sites and such --> https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome
838  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: June 18, 2020, 01:34:11 AM
....I'm not sure if TecShare understands that there is a major different between peaceful protesters and rioters. There's nothing wrong with peaceful protesters......

He understands, as apparently you do not, that Antifa has been actively providing cover and support for violent rioters, while trying to hide under a supposed "movement not organization" subterfuge.

You need to ask some basic questions, like "Where and who is the Central Command behind the recent nation wide organized protests and nation wide organized violence."


But those LEGITIMATELY aren't the majority of the protesters, plain and simple.

I'm not arguing that there are violent protesters, as there are. All of us have seen the videos of the looting happening all across America in different cities. But it's not fair to group the non violent protesters with the violent ones.

I don't think there is a central command. Are there groups that are helping to organize things? Yes. But I don't think there are tons of paid protesters and all of that jazz.
REALLY? All that was spontaneous? First, spontaneous protests. Then, spontaneous riots. Then spontaneous firebombing and looting.

REALLY?

Spontaneous protesting?

Well George Floyd was killed in Minneapolis by a police officer who stood on his neck with his knee for 8 mins. The video was absolutely horrid.

The protesting was and is because of this, they want reform in police departments across America. That's fair. I'm not sure on the looting and whatever though, just assuming that's just people who wanted to take advantage of this situation.
839  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: June 18, 2020, 01:17:15 AM
....I'm not sure if TecShare understands that there is a major different between peaceful protesters and rioters. There's nothing wrong with peaceful protesters......

He understands, as apparently you do not, that Antifa has been actively providing cover and support for violent rioters, while trying to hide under a supposed "movement not organization" subterfuge.

You need to ask some basic questions, like "Where and who is the Central Command behind the recent nation wide organized protests and nation wide organized violence."


But those LEGITIMATELY aren't the majority of the protesters, plain and simple.

I'm not arguing that there are violent protesters, as there are. All of us have seen the videos of the looting happening all across America in different cities. But it's not fair to group the non violent protesters with the violent ones.

I don't think there is a central command. Are there groups that are helping to organize things? Yes. But I don't think there are tons of paid protesters and all of that jazz.
840  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: June 17, 2020, 03:53:21 PM
The ones in DC at the time weren't rioters. They were peaceful protesters.

You can literally see that in so many videos. It's not like these people were all attempting to break into the WH. Trump had a plan where he wanted to go to the church and take a picture -- but he wouldn't be able to do so because there were protestors in the surrounding areas (where they're allowed to be protesting) Everyone in this country has a right to peacefully protest.

In some areas are people rioting? Yes.

Are the majority of people rioting? No.

Did the authorize the use of force against peaceful protesters to take his picture? Yes.

Like.....

OH WELL IN THAT CASE! I guess we can just ignore all of this and pretend it is all perfectly safe and that these "peaceful protestors" weren't throwing projectiles and setting shit on fire among other things because dipshits like you unilaterally declare them "peaceful".

There were no "rioters" dispersed from Lafayette Square on the day in question. Zero. They were largely peaceful protestors who weren't "setting shit on fire." You are attempting to conflate them with the rioters who set fire to the church the preceding night. The protesters weren't damaging anything and were cleared specifically so Trump could take a photo op holding a bible.

He didn't even stop to pray or anything. Just grabbed a bible, made sure he was holding it right-side up, audibly reminded the press corps that "this is a bible," and went back to the White House.

What would have been more powerful is if he went to just go talk to the protestors on a personal level. But because he's a coward who is totally out of touch with what is going on, he needed the police to disperse them with smoke, tear gas and pepper pellets, just so he could take a picture.

He's a disgrace, and so are those who willfully disregard reality in order to toady for him with bated breath.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2020/06/08/timeline-trump-church-photo-op


....

I'm not sure if TecShare understands that there is a major different between peaceful protesters and rioters. There's nothing wrong with peaceful protesters.

Rioters - Yes, I do think they should be brought to justice by the police. Force should be used to stop them from burning down cities. But there aren't peaceful protesters, and there is a large difference between the two groups.

You're right - if Trump went in front of the protestors and told them his administration was going to help to push for the reforms they want, he would look pretty solid. He should've unveiled his recent EO at that point. (The Executive Order regarding police reform, just came out a few days ago)

I don't think he is a disgrace though.
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