Does the Stock market fall in this sitaution, potentially wiping out all of the gains that Trump has taken credit for in the last 3 years? If so, then MAYBE.

It depends on if Trump and the rest of the administration can show that they're handling this problem in the best way possible, and to show that they're out in front of the problem. This can't be something that is chaotic like a lot of things that go on in the WH. This is not a problem that can be tweeted away. You can't deny that this is going on.

You need to get some real experts, develop a real plan, and make Americans believe that you're ensuring that they're safe from this spreading. That's the only way this problem can go away.

Well here we go again with the crazy news stories. We're hearing now that there was someone who went to CPAC who was infected with the coronavirus and had a brief conversation with Senator Cruz, they shook hands and such as well.

While Cruz doesn't fully reach the criteria for putting himself under self quarantine, he's doing so anyway to protect those in his staff and such. 14 Day quarantine is now underway for him.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/03/08/ted-cruz-in-self-quarantine-after-interacting-with-coronavirus-patient-at-cpac/

While I think this is just a way for Cruz to throw his name into the media again, people are truly going to start freaking out more and more as the news covers this more and more.

At least in 2020, the excuse was that Bernie lost because the DNC was rigging it against him from the inside. They were feeding the debate questions to Clinton before hand, they were literally giving Clinton money from the DNC fundraising effort (for down the ballot races), and so on and so forth. The deck truly was stacked against him. That wasn't fair in the least.

But now they're stealing the primary from Bernie. They're literally doing it in democratic fashion. Biden will most likely LEGITIMATETLY end up with more delegates and more popular votes then Bernie. People may argue that some of this came from backdoor deals and stuff, but while backdoor deals may be unethical -- nothing about them makes this process undemocratic.

I don't think Bernies job is to just be a token fighter. I think he truly wants to win. He just can't get the young people to vote, tough thing to do.

Well this was very funny. Obviously heavily edited, but very funny. Going to forward this to some friends.

If the Sanders campaign literally just made clips of Biden talking and blasted them on the airwaves they'd be able to beat him. But I think Bernie might be gunning for something within a Biden admin, or to ensuer that he stays powerful in Washington. He hasn't went negative on Biden yet, at least not enough to notice.

This is true, I've literally never seen anyone openly supporting Biden. Though I wouldn't be surprised that there is a large set of Dem voters who are pretty quiet about who they're supporting and they decide late, maybe there is a good amount of people who want the return to normalcy. They see the return to normalcy as Biden.

But -- 538 has released their updated model now that Super Tuesday is done and everything. Has Biden as the frontrunner with an 89 percent chance of winning the majority of the delegates, next is no one winning a majority.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

I mean it really depends on how you define 'still in it' Yes, she still has an active campaign. But she's won like 2 delegates throughout this entire race, and it's truly unclear on why she's still has an active campaign. Unless she wants to run for the Senator from Hawaii or the Governor of Hawaii or something like that.

https://www.businessinsider.com/tulsi-gabbard-still-in-2020-the-race-unclear-why-2020-3

Elizabeth Warren HAS NOW DROPPED OUT OF THE PRIMARY. Though she has not signaled for who she will endorse at this time. Both Biden and Sanders have spoken to her.

Her best return on investment is going to be endorsing Biden, she’ll probably get a VP or high cabinet position for that.

Endorsing Bernie though would make the most sense based on her views. Biden is just more of the same, and I’m pretty sure she has said that. Bernie is calling for change, like her.

I’ll update this for whoever she endorses

I was talking to some friends a little bit ago, and I truly think this is the optimal time for a 3rd party candidate to run for President and to start their own party. Obviously we're talking about Bernie here. Obviously he wouldn't be able to win the general, but I do think he'd be able to build up a Democratic-Socialist party if he wanted to at this point. There'd be a lot of support.

Might be hard to raise funds on the national level, as you'd have to build up a MASSIVE infrastructure to support all of this (like what the DNC,RNC have right now) but I think this is the best time to do it if they want to.

The Democratic Party will survive just like the Republican party survived throughout the Tea Party Revolution. But who knows what will come out of the party.

BernieBros are going to be pissed, it's just going to be interesting finding out if they hate their establishment party more then Trump. Cause if they hate the party more then Trump, they may not come out to vote, and that's going to sway this election back to a 2nd term for Donald Trump.

The liquidity on these are still pretty bad. Nothing that can really be done about that.

We can say that it's getting BUSY there, but the chart on the bisq website says otherwise. 65 bitcoins being traded in the entire month of January 2020 really isn't much. THIS IS WHY I HATE WHEN PEOPLE LITERALLY JUST SAY -- JUST USE BISQ.

Bisq is shit, it has no volume.

Use a coinmixer of some sort -- Wasabi Wallet, Samourai Wallet Whirlpool, etc and just use the regular exchanges  or LocalBitcoins/Paxful. That's your best bet.

If he wants a point that people would get behind, he'd say that 70 percent of the US is not physically fit enough to serve in the US military. That's true, and that's been true for a very long time. But that has nothing to do with the coronavirus.

The coronavirus in its most mild state, which is its most common state, is literally just like the flu. People (The Media) are blowing this out of proportion to people freak out and tune into their channel.

Eh, yeah. You're right.

Just typically doesn't happen so often that that niche candidate does well in BOTH Iowa and in New Hampshire. Typically they dump all their resources into one or the other. I also think that Amy, Pete, and Biden are all one from the same. They all said that they were having a political revolution, but they're all literally just establishment dems.

I cant see Bernie as a part of this process, I'm not that much of a cynic. I think Bernie truly wants to see his progressive vision come to fruition, but it just probably cant happen due to the amount of opposition, among the older generation, about socialism. The older generation associates socialism with the USSR, Vietnam, etc -- they can't accept that at all.

If anyone from the progressive side of things is in on it its Warren. She hasn't stepped aside yet and it may be a deliberate attack to seperate the progressive votes into two, ensuring that Bernie is unable to rack up enough delegates.

Bernie was literally robbed of the primary in 2016, when Clinton was in bed with the DNC and had been funneling money from the DNC to her own campaign. That's something that's supposed to have happen after the nominee is chosen, not when you're in a bitter fight for the nomination. This is not what is happening now, if Biden wins (and gets the majority) he'll have won fair and square. Bernie bros are still going to be made, but still a democratic process.

I think one of my biggest questions regarding this race is: Was there a plan beforehand setup with Amy, Pete, and Biden regarding the nomination?

I may be too much of a cynic here, but I think that some of this may have been planned in advance. Pete knew that Bernie would be fighting hard for a win in the early states, as that's where you build the momentum. Pete pretty much uses ALL of his resources in the first two states, Iowa and New Hampshire. He had a great result, pretty much tying Bernie in both New Hampshire and in Iowa.Pete was essentially able to cancel out any momentum and news coverage that Bernie may have been able to count on.

Bernie did great in Nevada, yes, but this bought time for everyone else to build up resources in other states and to show the voters that Bernie wasn't going to be able to win the general. That was literally the only thing on the news for DAYS, WEEKS, ETC.

Now Biden will most likely be the nominee, am I too much of a cynic? Let me know.

I'm pretty sure of this as well -- 538 is probably going to put Biden at the majority for plurality of delegates, though unsure of what they're going to go with for majority at the time of the convention. Maybe Bernie will try to make a play for the Superdelegates? (LOL I KNOW ALL OF THEM WILL VOTE FOR SLEEPY JOE!)

Betting odds have Biden as the clear frontrunner -- somewhere in the realm of bet $120 to win $100. Bernie is now bet $100 to win $500


Pretty sure they're going to change the debate rules (they being the DNC) so Tulsi will be unable to be on the debate stage. It's not being done in a deliberate fashion, it just literally doesn't make any season to keep the old 1 delegate rule when hundreds of delegates were given out on Super Tuesday.

I like how things change so fast in the world of politics that I posted this and now it's not true, crazy what a week or so can do (crazy what Super Tuesday can do). Biden is now the frontrunner and has the momentum behind him, we'll see if he's able to use that momentum to continue to rack up wins in the delegate count.

This is a pretty wild prediction, but, I think this MAY be a wakeupcall to the Bernie Sanders voters that they're going to have to go out their and vote. This isn't a sure thing anymore. They have to make their coalition go out their and vote, and they have to fucking beg Warren to drop out. She's splitting the vote and truly killing Bernies chances of competing in the delegate #'s

I know I've posted about this on 2020 Democratic primary, but I feel like it does require it's own thread. Bloomberg has officially dropped out of the race and is endorsing Biden. He has wasted about $500-600M of his money and now Biden will most likely be the nominee. This is going to clear the way for it to be a two way race, as Warren doesn't have much support and should drop out if she wants to see her progressive ideals run through Bernie (as he still does have a shot)

While Bloombergs campaign was pretty horrible when it comes to delegates and the popular vote, I do think that Bloomberg proved something. If you're a likable charismatic person who is already kinda well know, your campaign would be able to be propped up by billionaires. Maybe this was a test of some sort? Because Bloomberg had way too many skeletons in the closet and was a horrible debater. Imagine if someone did this who was a good debater and didn't have those same skeletons? They'd probably be the nominee right now.

Now we can all talk about how shit Bloombergs campaign was.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-04/bloomberg-suspends-presidential-race-after-super-tuesday-losses

Bloomberg is also going to throw his financial support behind Biden. He's said that he'll still continue to pay his massive staff to support the Biden campaign. At least that's what he said in early Jan.

Could say the same about Bloomberg hurting Biden, as his voters second choice would've been Biden. Not like Bloomberg had a great performance, but it would've allowed Biden to further stretch his popular vote lead and his delegate count lead on Bernie.

California is going to take sometime to come out -- mostly due to the fact that they accept ballots that were postmarked yesterday, and I'm pretty sure they have like 20 percent of their people mailing in the ballots.

Was a great night for Biden, he's probably going to have a pretty good delegate haul. Bloomberg wasted hundreds of millions of dollars and only got a few delegates -- which could change based on if he is viable in California (as he is currently at 14.3 in the state with around 87 percent reporting) Talk about being taken for a ride.


I've spoken too soon -- Bloomberg is officially ending his presidential bid and endorsing biden. Guy spent 500 million dollars to just have to leave the race. (Source - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-04/bloomberg-suspends-presidential-race-after-super-tuesday-losses) I guess we can expect to see Warren drop out soon -- if she doesn't the progressives are going to hate her forever.

And now we've officially shown that the center lane theory is actually working, didn't work in 2016 against Trump, but it sure as shit may work for Biden now. I don't see how he'd be a good nominee in the least, guy is a senile old man who won't be able to stand in a debate against Trump for his life. Biden was able to call in all the favors that he'd been building up for his lifetime career in the Congress and 8 years the VP -- that's the way he's going to be able to become the nominee.

The Bernie Bros are going to be pissed again, and I think that if Biden is the nominee that guarantees a Trump victory. But ya know, I said Bernie wouldn't have risen to this point -- Flying Hellfish corrected me -- but I GUESS I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG??

The show goes on!

Yeah I don't think it was supposed to be this bad, but at the end of the day -- a large majority of people were making the decision in who they were voting for in the final days, and with Pete and Amy dropping out it really saved Bidens campaign. I think the real way to prove if these last minute endorsements really did something is for all of us to watch Minnesota. Before Amy dropped out, the race was a two way race b/w Bernie and Amy, with Biden being FAR behind. If Biden is able to win or get the race very close in Minnesota -- it shows that the center lane clearing theory is working and these endorsements worked.

NYTimes Needle is saying that Biden will probably win Minnesota - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/03/us/elections/forecast-minnesota-primary.html

I'm not sure if I'm going to give into the bias of the early results, as these were all favored to go to Biden. But in terms of media, and the coverage he's going to get, this is without a doubt going to help Biden portray himself as the most electable. People care about what they see first, and things lose their effect later on in the day / night / etc.

But yes, Biden has been doing good so far. Bloomberg is doing pretty shit -- tons of wasted money all around. Warren is doing pretty horrid as well.