If both eddie13 and I are still around in 2024 we could probably make a bet on Cuomo vs whoever is left of the Republican party.

As for now, let's just have some respect for the poor folks in New York and leave this out of this thread. There are other threads for that topic, TBH it seems almost every other thread is about corona.

This is probably because the betting markets show that both Clinton and Cuomo have high single-digit chances of winning the nomination despite not even being in the race.

There has also been some talk of Cuomo getting the nomination in a brokered convention scenario.

As it stands now, Biden has almost zero relevance and people are not paying serious attention to anything he is saying.

This is probably what the Trump administration expects, but they fail to realize that: Those very generals, or inner circle (not all have been indicted) are the ones getting the most money from the (corrupt) situation of the country. Its literally their wealth at the expense (misery) of the masses.

And, there is a soviet style counter-intelligence system in place within the armed forces and government officials. At the slightest suspicion (and often even without any) people are removed and extorted, imprisoned, etc, etc... US agencies have been trying for many years, and they managed to convince the 3rd highest ranking officer, but after a failed attempt (around 2018) he fled the country and nothing ever changed.

And the indictment comes with a hefty bounty. A staggering $15 million for Maduro's arrest and another $10 million for his inner circle members. I don't how necessary this is, if at all, while some ordinary people within their territory itself are getting laid off from their jobs with no salaries.

And the funny thing here is that while the US government is terribly failing on its own soil, they are trying to appear to be one which puts up good governments abroad. And they have the gall to talk of the "need an effective government that cares about the people.”^[1] LOL!

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/the-united-states-indicts-venezuelas-maduro-on-narco-terrorism-charges/2020/03/26/a5a64122-6f68-11ea-a156-0048b62cdb51_story.html

In addition to Mr. Maduro, more than a dozen others were charged, including Venezuelan government and intelligence officials and members of the largest rebel group in Colombia, the Revolutionary Armed Forces, known as FARC, which has long drawn its financing from the cocaine trade.

The chief justice of Venezuela was also charged with money laundering and the country’s minister of defense with drug trafficking, Mr. Barr said. The charges were contained in four separate indictments, two filed in New York and one each in Miami and Washington, Mr. Barr said.

Mr. Maduro helped run and ultimately led a drug trafficking organization called Cartel de Los Soles as he gained power in Venezuela, according to court papers. Under his and others’ leadership, the cartel sought to enrich its members, enhance their power and to “‘flood’ the United States with cocaine and inflict the drug’s harmful and addictive effects on users in this country,” an indictment said.

The cartel, under the leadership of Mr. Maduro and others, “prioritized using cocaine as a weapon against America and importing as much cocaine as possible into the United States,” the indictment charged.

Mr. Maduro negotiated multi-ton shipments of cocaine produced by the FARC, directed his cartel to provide military-grade weapons to the group and coordinated foreign affairs with Honduras and other countries to “facilitate large-scale drug trafficking,” according to the indictment.

And two of Mr. Maduro’s nephews are serving prison sentences in the United States following convictions on drug charges. In that case, prosecutors said the nephews — sometimes called the “narcosobrinos” in Venezuela — attempted to bring in $20 million in drug money to assist their family in staying in power.

I strongly suggest to report these BS threads for merging or removal. This infection is killing P&S.

Majority of banks are closed, Market are also locked down no transaction, impotation or exportation...  This will affect countries that depend on other countries importations to live.

He's a businessman, not a politician.

He has done so many things that should hurt his chances ("grab em by the pussy!"), but the economy keeps going up and people take the bad with the good.

History shows us that opening up for business as usual too soon will re-introduce another epidemic.   And if country borders stay closed, local viruses would mutate which will cause multiple pandemics whenever the borders re-open.  Even years from now...

Our only chance is a good vaccine before the virus evolves to fight it.

Unless i missed something but it doesn't seem like the traders in countries listed were even ever banned, so this new development is not in anyway some sort of "unban". In fact what Localbitcoins just decided to do is to add in an extra set of verification questions on top of KYC with a range of questions asking one about their source of income, how much they earn blah blah blah.

Since the first enforcement of KYC. I have never bother to you my account again.

You really need to learn how exit polls work and what they can or cannot do. Exit polls are weighed throughout the day based on things like expected tunout and demographics, and get skewed by e.g. young people being more likely to fill those polls out (which are completely voluntary and self-guided). Cherry picking exit polls to fit the narrative is asinine. Exit polls can't be used to verify election results but they can be used to gauge demographics, which clearly shows that younglings don't vote, not matter how you slice it.


I guess I should thank you for electing Trump again but I stand to lose a 0.1 BTC bet so I won't.


That's all great but if they don't do what they need to do to get Bernie elected (i.e. don't vote in the primaries) then all that posturing is meaningless. I get that young people are so much smarter than the old farts etc so hopefully they will eventually figure out that twitgramming doesn't elect candidates, voting does.


As I said, all sorts of excuses. Late for work LOL. These are the people who don't hesitate to line up at Target during a pandemic to buy the latest Nintendo game. Now that they will have lost their jobs perhaps there will be no excuses for the remaining primaries?

Current westerners hate themselves. They literally want their own people to die, and foreigners to prosper, at our own expense. They are traitors. This is how nations fall.

You are falling into a commonly used trap of relying on propagandists for information about what anti-vaxxers believe.  I am out on the margins and do entertain hypotheses about the things you enumerate.  That doesn't mean that I 'believe' them or 'dis-believe' them; just that I pattern-match these possibilities against observations.  Anyway, I am chronically aggravated at 'anti-vaxxers' for dogmatically accepting a lot of other questionable corp/gov pushed things without the same kind of analysis that they apply to their vaccine research.

Like most so-called 'anti-vaxxers', I am in favor of some vaccines and requested them for my child.  In my case the only vaccine which the rewards probably outweigh the risks would be HBG for tuberculosis.  Most so-called 'anti-vaxxers' choose more vaccines for their kids than I do.

A certain minority of 'anti-vaxxers' come at things from a religous angle and reject all vaccines (and other medical interventions) as principle.  I personally think that is kind of nuts, but it's not my place to butt into their business.  It would be nice if the pro-vaxxers would take the same tact and leave other people alone, but these people tend to be nasty control-freak types who are not wired that way.  And their thought leaders, in the shadows pulling the puppet strings, are probably anti-human Lucifarian types as best I can determine.

Lol.  TwitchySeal would make the perfect subject.  He believes, without question all the propaganda that corporate MSM has been feeding him, including the lie that calling a spade a spade equates to racism.  Never mind the inherent racism demonstrated by the political party he supports, and their fondness for identity politics.

More and more people are noticing that 'the crazies' tend to rely on science and logic and often put enough effort to read scientific papers and provide links while...


^^^...The normies on the other side tend to be more than a little bit dogmatic.

You see in their work 'appeal to authority' and 'appeal to popularity' arguments dominate their thought process and it is quite rare to see actual scientific papers presented.  [Thanks, TechShare, for the brief and legible labels which nail it.]

One time on one of the vaccine threads someone posted a list of 50 studies.  I picked one at random.  What it actually said was just the opposite of what the pro-vaxer (who obviously just copy pasted some list he found somewhere and didn't read the material) claims.

Of all the useless coronavirus topics this is one of the worst yet. Nobody cares, not even yourself since you can't be bothered to read the shit you post.

I built my house just north of Edmonton, AB.  Edmonton is the 6th largest city in Canada, with about 1.2 million people.

Streets are empty, but grocery stores are still open (and fully stocked), and the only limitation is on toilet paper - 2 per family.  lol  Being in a winter city, I think people prob stock up a bit more on supplies.

Canada seems mostly untouched, which seems weird, since the cold weather keeps people indoors and close.  I haven't noticed any other changes when I go into Edmonton for supplies.

Realistically, you prob won't get sick unless you touch your face.  Which everyone does many times per minute on average.

When I go out, I'm very careful not to touch my face until I disinfect my hands.

Do you not believe in evolution?  Viruses reproduce fast... there are lots of chances to mutate.