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1181  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [ POLL ] Who Will Be Democratic Party Presidential Nominee: Sanders or Biden ? on: March 19, 2020, 05:24:52 AM
LATEST UPDATE:

Sanders has 885 delegates
Biden has 1180 delegates


Biden wins Florida, Illinois and Arizona and with a huge lead it appears he will be reaching the 1991 delegates number first if the race continued.

Sanders is facing calls for him to drop out to give Biden the chance to start working on the November Presidential elections preparation now.

This is literally the end of this. Biden is going to win (bar some sort of illness, major scandal, etc) The only reason I see Sanders staying in is to be able to get something out of the administration, or to get Biden to change certain policies that he'll implement and he can tell his supporters he did something.

Sanders (IMO) is a little too old to be running for President again, so this is probably his last chance. He probably is hoping for some sort of extraordinary circumstances to help him out here. Or a cabinet role, like I said before. VP is off the table, as Biden has said that HE WILL pick a woman to be his VP.
1182  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nationalisation on: March 19, 2020, 05:05:07 AM
I didn't know this was something that was so common out of the US, but I guess this is something that I'm going to have to talk about for a bit. I don't think this is going to happen in a place like the US, because it's not common for the US to control an entire company or industry.

Though I do know that for one of the companies here, it's not surprising to see, Alitalia. This was a rumor for the past couple years that this was happening, and a crisis like this, where airlines are hurting badly, is the perfect time to nationalize it.

I am going to stress that if that in any country this is typically going to be the last thing that a country is going to do, and it's only going to be done because the company in question employs a LARGE amount of people in the country. Give it a few years after this recession and the companies are going to be privatized again. It's a bit of a cycle I guess in the EU.

In the US we just pump money into certain companies -- think of the bailouts which saved GM, the bank, etc -- and then we get stock for it and then sell this. That's what we do here (commonly)
1183  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe the 2020 US democratic primary is being rigged? on: March 19, 2020, 04:56:32 AM
No I don't think so, i think that this was the democratic process at work. If you want to argue about a state being open or closed primary system or something like that, I'd be able to entertain it. But I don't think these discrepencies changed the vote in anyway and I think we're fine when it comes to peoples votes actually counting.

If you want to say that the three moderates backing Biden at the same time and dropping out at perfect time before Super Tuesday is rigged? Then I'd have to disagree with you (not saying you as OP, just in general) because while that may not be ethical in your mind -- the voters did still decide that they would be going from one moderate (Klobuchar, Pete) to Biden. So I think that's just the democratic process at work here.

I don't think so.
1184  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: March 19, 2020, 04:04:42 AM
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"A small town in northern Italy has reportedly stopped all new coronavirus infections as part of a successful experiment."
What is the name?
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"Professor Crisanti warned that that for every patient that shows symptoms for COVID-19 there were about 10 who don't."
If that is the case immagen the number who already recoved

It seems to affect politicians and celebrities a lot more, homeless people in the sewers seem fine. Have they too many bacteria on them that even viruses avoid them?

Can you read?

Imagine how many people are walking around unknowingly infecting others.

Exactly. This is the problem that we're facing in the US as well. You've got people saying, well we don't have that many confirmed cases so it isn't that bad. But yeah, while we don't have that many confirmed cases that doesn't mean anything if we're not ACTUALLY TESTING PEOPLE.

That's why politicians know this is very serious. I saw an article the other day about Louisiana, where they had tested about 60 people (at the time of the article being written) and I think somewhere in the realm of 28-30 were positive. That's fucking horrid.

This is going to get MUCH MUCH worse.
1185  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Corona virus a hoax for profit? on: March 18, 2020, 08:17:39 PM
The deaths by Corona are actually less than the ones caused by regular flu in the previous years.
So Elon Musk is right. You can just check the flu death stats for the past years and compare them with this year.

That's nonsense. Mortality rate seems higher than flu, and the R0 value that represents how contagious it is also seems higher. The main factor however is that there is no pre-existing immunity. This is why it is sweeping through whole populations; there is no brake from the people who are immune because they have had it before - no-one has had this before. And you can't compare death stats of covid-19 with prior year flu because the covid-19 pandemic is in progress right now, numbers will climb massively from current levels.


No, it's not a hoax. It's a respiratory illness that is now a pandemic. About 200k people have it (that is out of those that have been tested, I truly think this number is much higher) and people are dying of it.

The vast majority of people are losing money from this. The stock market is crumbling, bitcoin is crumbling, unsure on real estate, crude oil is crumbling in price (good for consumers, bad for investors) b/c of a trade war, there is a shortage of certain necessities around the world.

Even if a few people could make money here, this is horrible situation that no one is happy to be in right now.

Exactly. Economies are in major trouble. I suspect there will be huge waves of nationalisation of whole industries before this thing is done.

I don't know if I would go as far as nationalization of industries, though I do think certain government (unsure on if the US will go this far) on telling their industries that they desperately need them to make certain goods. This would kinda be like a war time economy, where the government is telling industry that they need certain goods made. In a war time it is more forecful, but who knows what will happen when we're in a time of chaos and panic and people need certain things.

We'll see what happens in the coming days. Going to get much worse before it gets better.
1186  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it worth it to hold a small amount of Binance coins to save on trading fees? on: March 18, 2020, 07:48:11 PM
Depends on the amount you trade and the assets that you're trading with. I'd say for most people that the answer is yes and that it would help in saving some fees, but it really depends on if you're trading enough to warrant it and if you think that Binance and Binance Coins are worth it to be holding.

How much in a typical month would you be trading? As the savings would be in the realm of 50 percent if you were to use Binance coins for fees, which is pretty substantial. I'd make sure to compare the deposit/withdrawl fees with other platforms though, as those can bite into any sort of profits if you're going to be trading on Binance.
1187  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [ CONTRIBUTE YOUR IDEAS ] What to stock up during the outbreak? on: March 18, 2020, 07:10:59 PM
I've been thinking of going to the malls and groceries while its still functional. I would like to compile list of things that should be stocked up while this outbreak peaks.

Here are a list of things that I have in mind:

1. Food with Long Expiration Date: Canned Goods, Sacks of Rice, Cooking Oil
2. Water: If you don't have a 3 or 4 filtration system at home I think its best to stock up water while its not on shortage.
3. Bidet System: It could clean your butt better than wiping with tissue paper, but this requires a plumbing service to install (or you can DIY).
4. Thermometer: To keep track of your temperature.
5. Toothpastes, Shampoos, and Soaps: Stock these up for like 3-months so you won't have to go back to grocery just for these minor items
6. Garbage Bags, Tissues, Alcohol, Face Masks: For face masks, you don't really have to purchase the disposable one. You can buy a high-quality face mask that you can wash every night.
7. Contraceptives: I think its wise to stock these things if you don't have a plan to have a child when the virus outbreak blows over.

What else am I missing?

Not going to need a whole plumbing system to setup a whole bidet right now. Could honestly just go to Amazon and buy an attachement for your system and get a bidet. See here - https://www.amazon.com/bidet/s?k=bidet

But yeah, all your stuff is fine. If you truly think that shit is going to hit the fan then I'd recommend buying a gun and some ammo, then again that's if you think we're going to break out into all out warfare. Further, I'd also stock up on Alcohol and other snacks that you'd like to ensure you can limit your visits to the grocery store ^ As Spend said.
1188  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Corona virus a hoax for profit? on: March 18, 2020, 06:59:16 PM
No, it's not a hoax. It's a respiratory illness that is now a pandemic. About 200k people have it (that is out of those that have been tested, I truly think this number is much higher) and people are dying of it.

The vast majority of people are losing money from this. The stock market is crumbling, bitcoin is crumbling, unsure on real estate, crude oil is crumbling in price (good for consumers, bad for investors) b/c of a trade war, there is a shortage of certain necessities around the world.

Even if a few people could make money here, this is horrible situation that no one is happy to be in right now.
1189  Other / Politics & Society / Some are having Coronavirus parties -- the stupidity of some..... on: March 18, 2020, 06:08:13 PM
I've seen this on the news in the last few days, heard from some friends, and some college students have confirmed it as well, people are literally having their last hurrah by having Coronavirus parties and then going into self quarantine. I don't understand how some people could be so stupid and not understand that you're NOT SUPPOSED to be around people on this time and you're literally defeating the purpose of a quarantine if you were to do this.

I'm going to assume that other people have seen this as well, so I'd love to hear what other people think about how stupid everyday people are.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/fears-lockdown-parties-will-increase-global-spread-of-coronavirus
https://time.com/5804089/us-coronavirus-social-distancing-party/

1190  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late on: March 18, 2020, 05:39:15 PM
Is this what's actually being reported on right now? I hadn't seen any numbers up to this point, but I really want to read into the specifics of a program like this. Seems a bit weird to say you're giving every American that amount of money, but not flesh out EXACTLY who is going to be receiving it (in this proposed plan, as nothing is official at the moment)

No specifics yet but I think it's quite likely it will happen, given that Republicans want to bribe the voters before the election and Democrats like handing money out in general...

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-4/

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Q    There’s been talk about 1,000-dollar checks to every American.  Increasing support among Republicans and some Democrats for that.  Would you support that going to everyone?  Or would you support some sort of income restriction on who gets a check?

SECRETARY MNUCHIN:  Well, I think it’s clear: We don’t need to send people who make a million dollars a year checks.  Okay?  But we like — that’s one of the ideas we like.  We’re going to preview that today, and then we’ll be talking about details afterwards.

THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I think — I think we’re going to do something that gets money to them as quickly as possible.  That may not be an accurate way of doing it, because obviously some people shouldn’t be getting checks for $1,000.  And we’ll have a pretty good idea by the end of the day, what we’re going to be doing.

Pretty much exactly what I was thinking. I'd like to point out that if Obama tried to do this (and I know that he did pass certain stimulus packages after the great recession) the Republicans would've been up in arms saying that this wasn't fiscally responsible and that the country wouldn't be able to afford it.

Crazy how things change so quickly.
1191  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late on: March 18, 2020, 12:55:52 AM
Give people some time to think things over. I'm sure generators are the next item to be hoarded up. Also, I'm sure the produce section will be ravaged next when people discover the joys of pickling and canning.

I was hoping that this shit would slow down once the hoarders max out their credit cards but Trump is planning to give everyone $1000 so this might last a little longer.

I got a grocery order to pick up tomorrow (nothing special, regular weekly shopping list) and I'm guessing half of the stuff will be out of stock... so now I'm thinking I should increase the quantities just in case LOL.

Is this what's actually being reported on right now? I hadn't seen any numbers up to this point, but I really want to read into the specifics of a program like this. Seems a bit weird to say you're giving every American that amount of money, but not flesh out EXACTLY who is going to be receiving it (in this proposed plan, as nothing is official at the moment)
1192  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late on: March 18, 2020, 12:47:22 AM
Talking about Quarantines and curefews coming soon, just saw some info on NYC. NYC's Mayor, Bill DeBlasio, just stated that they may soon follow San Francisco and issue a shelter in place order to all people who live in NYC. In simple terms, this means that residents would be prohibited, by law, from leaving their homes except under limited circumstances -- these would include going to work, doctor, grocery store, etc.


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/17/new-yorkers-should-be-prepared-for-a-shelter-in-place-order-mayor-bill-de-blasio-says.html

This is the craziest news to me, though I did see a few upstate NY towns already establishing a curfew of around 10pm -- pretty much to stop the night life. NYC already has social gathering places -- bars, restaurants, etc closing at like 9-10? (they can deliver food all night though)
1193  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late on: March 17, 2020, 10:08:48 PM
One of the biggest problems here is that certain companies are not going to be able to keep up supply and they're not going to increase supply as they know that this demand boost is temporary. I'm going to use the stupid example of toilet paper for a second, just for examples sake.

Toilet paper is not something people start using more because there is a crisis. So once everyone fills up their basement/garage/whatever with it - hoarding will taper off. If I was a TP mogul I'd be planning to reduce the supply in a few months.

On the other hand (pun intended), hand sanitizer, anti-bacterial wipes, even soap - these items will probably experience higher demand for quite a while. An increase in supply could be needed and could be quite profitable for those companies that can do it.

Food items probably fall somewhere in between. You can hoard only so much canned food, but groceries in general will be in higher demand in places where restaurants are closed.

Oh yeah, you're most likely right when it comes to the toilet paper portion of things.

Though yes, hand sanitizer, wipes, soap, etc are going to have a higher demand for a little while -- but people are going to be unsure of how long that is going to last. That's what is going to cause these companies to be a little reserved about increasing supply so quickly. Gradual stuff yeah, but these companies don't want to be sitting on an abundance of product because they thought this was going to be horrible for years.s
1194  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late on: March 17, 2020, 06:02:25 AM
One of the biggest problems here is that certain companies are not going to be able to keep up supply and they're not going to increase supply as they know that this demand boost is temporary. I'm going to use the stupid example of toilet paper for a second, just for examples sake.

Think of toilet paper companies for a second, they're not going to want to want to increase supply massively to keep up with demand because there is most likely a large amount of money that would go into increasing supply. This sort of demand increase isn't from something that's sustainable -- like a population increase -- it's from something which isn't, which is a crisis that will end at some point. This means that at a certain point, if this goes on for long enough, stores are going to run out of certain products (maybe not toilet paper in particular, but yeah) and they're not going to be replenished very swiftly because the companies dont want to waste product if this ends abruptly (as it could, we're literally day by day at the moment)

That's my little take on the matter.
1195  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump vs Germany in a bid to acquire vaccines for US only. on: March 17, 2020, 04:14:13 AM
I don't know if I would call this corruption, and I doubt he did it in a malicious manner. I think Trump was doing this to ensure that the US would have enough vaccines for their own people -- that's the gist of this. Germany (and the rest of the EU nations) aren't that populous compared to the US -- so the US would require a much larger amount of vaccines.

No idea, what you are talking about here, but unfortunately this is completely wrong. The EU has about 512 million inhabitants (Switzerland, Norway etc. no even counted). And the US has about 327 million inhabitants.

I didn't mean collectively, I was comparing each individual EU nation against the US. Think of Germany (83M) vs the US (330m) in terms of population. That's what I meant here, no more no less.

But what's the point of dividing the member states of the EU in seperate parts? If CureVac would find a vaccine, obviously every citizen in the EU would get a vaccination. Doesn't that mean that the demand for vaccines is even bigger in the EU than it is in the US?

Nevertheless I understand Trumps point. He tried to make a deal for his own people - fair enough. However, what I criticize is his behaviour. It is not only morally reprehensible, but also outrageous towards the European partners.  The EU and the US should work together, combine their knowledge and find a vaccine for all people. Not only for the person who pays the most $$. I am proud that Dietmar Hopp showed backbone today and put Trump in his place.

I mean at the end of the day this isn't about money, or about something like that. It's about trying to save the most people for their own particular county. I highly doubt that CureVac came into the room and said I can make enough vaccines for all countries in the world, and then BIG BAD ORANGE MAN SAID NO ONLY FOR ME.

It probably went along the lines of -- I can make this amount of vaccines, and Trump said he wants them all for his own people. Wouldn't that make the most sense to you?
1196  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump vs Germany in a bid to acquire vaccines for US only. on: March 17, 2020, 12:09:27 AM
I don't know if I would call this corruption, and I doubt he did it in a malicious manner. I think Trump was doing this to ensure that the US would have enough vaccines for their own people -- that's the gist of this. Germany (and the rest of the EU nations) aren't that populous compared to the US -- so the US would require a much larger amount of vaccines.

No idea, what you are talking about here, but unfortunately this is completely wrong. The EU has about 512 million inhabitants (Switzerland, Norway etc. no even counted). And the US has about 327 million inhabitants.

I didn't mean collectively, I was comparing each individual EU nation against the US. Think of Germany (83M) vs the US (330m) in terms of population. That's what I meant here, no more no less.
1197  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump vs Germany in a bid to acquire vaccines for US only. on: March 16, 2020, 11:49:33 PM
What do you’ll think of this, did Trump actually try to pull this off despite it being declared a pandemic or it’s the work of fake news brigade?.
Yeah, it's true, you are right. His attempt sounds like a joke but it's true, he really tried to engage in corruption again. It was a big topic in most major German news, and of course, also the German government said his corruption is unacceptable.
But the German company denied to sell it to the US only, if it's ready (it's still in an early stage of development) it will be available to all countries.  Wink

https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/corona-impfstoff-deutschland-usa-101.html
https://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/gesundheit/coronavirus/corona-impfstoff-curevac-investor-hopp-wehrt-sich-gegen-trump-16680445.html

I don't know if I would call this corruption, and I doubt he did it in a malicious manner. I think Trump was doing this to ensure that the US would have enough vaccines for their own people -- that's the gist of this. Germany (and the rest of the EU nations) aren't that populous compared to the US -- so the US would require a much larger amount of vaccines.

Trump is looking out for his nation, and that's the plan here.

I doubt he walked into the meeting and said hey -- I want you to make vaccines for this infectious virus that is plaguing the world, and let the other nations die while you only produce for me. He probably said -- hey I need a large amount of vaccines, and the company said well if you need that amount for your people we'd be unable to make it for other countries.

That's the gist here in my mind, Trump isn't a monster here. Just caring about the people who elected him and thats it.
1198  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can Coronavirus hurt Trump in the upcoming US elections?. on: March 16, 2020, 11:45:56 PM
Ah look at that Trump was tested and doesn't have the corona virus,so we're all good on that front. The market is taking a tumble though -- and that is going to be something that Trump is going to have to explain.

Though I do think that the administration took a SHARP turn on how they're handling this. At first Trump was attacking the media, and attacking the Dems, pretty much doing everything that he'd do to deal with a crisis before this. Though thew public doesn't like that when it comes to this, and Trump was able to notice that quickly enough, he's taken a sharp turn and has (in the last few days) showed the public that he's willing to take drastic action to ensure that the people are safe. And even if you don't like it, we all can admit that that is what the majority of Americans want to hear in a period of uncertainy.

So yeah, here we are.
1199  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can Coronavirus hurt Trump in the upcoming US elections?. on: March 12, 2020, 09:29:30 PM
Does the Stock market fall in this sitaution, potentially wiping out all of the gains that Trump has taken credit for in the last 3 years? If so, then MAYBE.

S&P 500 is still up but only ~10% since Trump's inauguration and we're officially in a bear market... it's very likely we'll test your "maybe". Although it started going rapidly up in the last few minutes for reasons yet unknown.

Meanwhile, if we take the title of the thread literally: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/12/coronavirus-brazilian-official-who-met-trump-tests-positive.html

My next portion of that expained that if the administration is able to show that they're doing everything they can do to combat this -- then Americans may not be so quick to blame the administration for inaction and may understand that.

But I don't think thats what happening now. The Media has said that Trumps response to the coronavirus isn't good enough and that they're not doing enough to combat this. This is going to make people VERY VERY angry.

So yes, we're putting my MAYBE to the test. We'll only know in November of 2020 Smiley
1200  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Toilet paper hoarding on: March 12, 2020, 12:47:09 PM
I hate buying shit, so I always get a costco sized case of toilet paper. It lasts me the better part of the year.

I also have 500 toilet paper tablets, probably enough for 6 months for me. I didn't buy any because of the coronavirus. Just happened to have it that's all.


I honestly don't get the panic over it. There's an infinite amount of things you could wipe with, when I was a kid, we used certain kinds of leaves when we were out and really had to go. (Obviously it was outside the US).

I hear people used to use newspaper a long long time ago. That seems like it'd be awful and leave ink behind. Also I doubt newspaper flushes well. If you choose to use stuff that doesn't flush you can keep a little trashcan in the bathroom with a supermarket plastic bag.





While this does sound very nice, I'm also assuming that you live somewhere where this is possible. Going to need a GOOD deal of space to be buying in bulk like that. Wouldn't be possible in someplace like Manhatten (or any big city with too high of property costs tbh)

Kinda wish I stocked up on a ton of stuff at this point. But a bidet works too Smiley

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