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981  Economy / Auctions / Re: WTS 50 Direct ASICMINER shares. 48 Hour Auction. on: June 20, 2013, 09:07:40 PM
50 @ 2.5 via JohnK
982  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 20, 2013, 03:53:50 PM
I am seriously thinking of making a small website for an order book for direct shares that any user can post bid or ask. Of course the trades would be done via pms afterwards and through fried cat but I would spare the forums tons of new auctions and threads always containing the same old story, Numbers of shares to sell, Price, TXID to proof ownership, signed message.... I believe this would be helpful.

Do you suggest I go for it or it would be wasted effort?

I suggest you do it if noone else is planning the same. Is a similar market place on asicminer to-do list?

Don't bother, I will buy ALL TEH SHAREZ eventually!  Cool
983  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] Virtual Mining - Hash Without Hardware! on: June 20, 2013, 03:34:23 PM
I just want to take a few minutes to address how some people (well, one very persistent person) are asking me about why TAT.VM market price has fallen this week. This person is pretty angry about this, threatening so besmirch my name unless I buy back his shares. After 2 hours of late-night "discussion", I nearly considered it, just so I could go to sleep...

In summary:

1. Difficulty has risen by greater than 20% two times in a row now. I'm not sure if that's a record, but it's certainly much faster than anything I can recall this year. When difficulty rises, the dividend goes down, and thus the fundamental value of pretty much ALL mining assets go down.

2. The market has a new, extremely low-priced competitor. I suspect many people have sold off their TAT.VM at a psuedo-loss in order to buy cheaper assets elsewhere. Really, this is probably the biggest factor. However, this is the nature of being in a competitive market. If demand is high, others come in and undercut you if they can.

3. I have spelled out very clearly how this asset works. It, like pretty much all bitcoin investments, is high risk. Trading this asset properly is all about timing. Buy at the right time, hold for the right amount of time, sell at the right time. Many, many shareholders have played this asset to success.

This asset states its purpose very plainly in the description:

Code:
This is asset is being offered for the following purposes:
1. To provide the most affordable and competitive alternative to other mining assets currently available.
2. To provide an easy choice for investors to earn mining rewards without the responsibility and hassle of running personal mining rigs and farms.

If you buy this because you want to simulate mining, and find TAT.VM's price for 1mh/s to be acceptable, great. But if difficulty spikes cause devaluation, or if new competitors in the asset or mining market spur selloffs, and your main concern is share price, then you need to stay savvy. The market price of TAT.VM held quite remarkably considering the recent diff changes, but the new assets on the market really pulled things downward.

In closing, please understand what you are buying when you buy bitcoin assets. I still get people asking me how dividends are determined even though the formula is already listed.

TAT.VM is virtual hashes, nothing more, nothing less. I will continue to deliver dividends on those hashes, in accordance to the contract. It is up to the trader to know whether it is right for them, and how/when to trade it.

984  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Recieved 50GH BFL Single Today! on: June 20, 2013, 01:32:23 AM
"werner" is the first shady thing that garr has done...I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt until bfl delivers his order so that he can explain his side of the story without fear of bfl's "costumer service".


Said Werner 2.0?
985  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Recieved 50GH BFL Single Today! on: June 20, 2013, 12:15:31 AM
Hey all, regarding the Werner account:
It is appalling that someone would accuse me of doing something as low as bidding up my own auctions. You make me sick.

--Garr

Then what exactly happened here? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159808.msg1689855#msg1689855

That's a gotcha indeed.

However it doesn't make Inaba's behavior any more respectable either.
986  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough! on: June 19, 2013, 11:40:45 PM
And I don't see divs in my account.  Did they all process smoothly?  Did you take a snapshot earlier today, and so this is therefore in part my fault?  Smiley

You'd need to speak with Burnside I think. As far as I know they processed fine. Are you sure you didn't sell your shares while it was "PROCESSING"?



Nah, that's not the problem.  I bought some today, possibly while or shortly before processing. The timing would be close.  It's not a material number, no worries - a delta of 6 or 7 shares.  Just curious if there was an easy answer before I dig in for a harder answer.  Or decide to forego it for 6/7 shares in favor of some gaming time with the husband.  Cheesy

I'd shoot a quick pm to Burnside then get to gaming Wink


987  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough! on: June 19, 2013, 11:30:19 PM
And I don't see divs in my account.  Did they all process smoothly?  Did you take a snapshot earlier today, and so this is therefore in part my fault?  Smiley

You'd need to speak with Burnside I think. As far as I know they processed fine. Are you sure you didn't sell your shares while it was "PROCESSING"?

988  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough! on: June 19, 2013, 08:45:48 PM
Hi

Can you tell me why when Asicminer paid out a dividend of 0.03628311
we only got 0.00017196 instead of aprox 0.000360 ? half of the expected?

thanks

ASICMINER dividend today was not .03628311, that was last week's.
989  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough! on: June 19, 2013, 07:47:13 PM
[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] [PAID] 68,175 @ 0.00017196 (processing)

Any special insight into why it went down so much from last week?

ASICMINER is sold out of their blades. More will be in stock in a couple weeks.
990  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Recieved 50GH BFL Single Today! on: June 19, 2013, 07:45:48 PM
Hey Inaba, is there some kind of list you can put me on to ban me from ever being able to buy anything from BFL forever?
991  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough! on: June 19, 2013, 07:16:47 PM
[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] [PAID] 68,175 @ 0.00017196 (processing)
992  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] Virtual Mining Hashing Now Available! on: June 19, 2013, 07:14:40 PM
I intended to pay divs early this week, but BTCT.co is having some load issues currently.

Dividend will be 0.00017196 per share.

Thanks!

Think this was meant for the ASIC-M thread.  Miners shouldn't get too excited.

Thanks Wink
993  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] Virtual Mining Hashing Now Available! on: June 19, 2013, 05:41:57 PM
IGNORE THIS POST!
994  Economy / Securities / Re: [Bitfunder] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough on: June 19, 2013, 05:34:55 PM
[BITFUNDER] [TAT.ASICMINER] [PAID] 22,007 @ 0.00017196
995  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] ASICM, a New Micro-share ASICMINER Passthrough! on: June 19, 2013, 05:33:38 PM
[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] [PAID] 245,394 @ 0.00017196
996  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 19, 2013, 05:19:52 PM
How soon after the dividend does FC normally give an update?

Tomorrow.
997  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTCTC][[ASICMINER-PT]] - Public trading of ASICMINER shares on: June 19, 2013, 05:19:38 PM
Is anyone else having trouble placing orders??? the floor is dropping out and this exchange isn't working for me!!!

I can do orders in AM-PT, but it won't let me do them in TAT.ASICMINER.
998  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 499 direct ASICMINER shares on: June 19, 2013, 04:47:24 PM
r3demon, my shares don't appear to have been transferred properly. Can you please forward dividends to me and check with Friedcat?
999  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 19, 2013, 03:19:27 PM

We do chikun right!
1000  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc. on: June 19, 2013, 03:15:25 PM
Burnside, have you considered maker/taker pricing?

Yeah.  I wouldn't mind doing something that shifted some of the fee to the maker, and reduced it on the taker.  Would be curious to hear from the masses what they think?

Hope you mean other way round.

Maker should get the lower or zero fee (for adding liquidity), taker the larger (or whole) fee for removing liquidty.  It's great for removing spreads - with people buying bidding 1 satoshi below ask rather than buying so as to avoid a fee.

The other way round (which you said) works to discourage people placing orders - leaving empty order books.

Getting late here.  Yes, the reverse of what I said.  We want to encourage orders on the books.  Smiley


Yeah imo its basically THE answer to this whole liquidity/spreads conversation, except that maker should get a rebate, not just zero fee.  You could change .2% fee on trades to something like .3% fee on taker, .1% rebate on maker (or .4/.2)

Have fun explaining this to customers though.
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