Bitcoin Forum
May 13, 2024, 07:50:06 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
  Home Help Search Login Register More  
  Show Posts
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 [47] 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 ... 437 »
921  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ledger Confirmed That Government Can Get Access To Your Fund on: May 21, 2023, 03:21:46 PM
You can lose your seeds, your keys, your coins if you lose 2 or 3 shards. It can be from a subpoena or data breach or hacks any two of three shard providers. You don't know what will happen with those providers.

That is very bad as your seeds, keys will no longer be only controlled by you. After they made that announcement on the firmware upgrade on 16 May and got massively panic responses from communities, they tried to say the initial announcement is lack of details and claim that they will make their wallet open source soon.

I don't trust them so neither you. It is safest to control your keys only by yourself and hardware wallet is only one of way to achieve it. Ledger hardware wallets now are no longer provide you that security.
922  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: What happens if top 3 pools selectively accept/deny transactions? on: May 21, 2023, 03:14:03 PM
There are a couple big pools owning the majority of the hashrate.
Bitcoin network has many mining pools, not only those big pools. Historically big pools can become small pools or disappeared just like exchanges.

Quote
What happens if they suddenly decide to monetize their work even more and create some sort of subscription service where they only agree to include transactions that subscribers have broadcasted through the pool’s platform? Is this even possible?
They can prioritize transactions they want to confirm like prioritize their own transactions first. They can try to censor transactions that are not theirs but because Bitcoin network is decentralized, by hashrate decentralization in many mining pools and locations, owners, people will be free to switch their ASICs to other pools if they detect something is wrong with a big pool.

If one big pool does that, I am sure with you they will become a small pool very soon.
923  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Apple ID Vulnerability Exposes CryptoWallets To Theft on: May 21, 2023, 03:04:18 PM
I mean, buying Apple ID is kinda stupid in the first place. It was designed to allow easy backup if I'm not wrong, so personal data (where wallets or other apps store their data) will definitely get exposed, which is why using a password to encrypt the data should be mandatory even if you don't buy it from random strangers. Btw, this is my first time hearing about people buying IDs to download an app instead of looking for an IPA or using other apps to save time and trouble. Didn't expect people to be that daring.
Recall that why the guy behind ChipMixer was caught with some activities and one of them is his selfies on Apple devices.

I hope that news on security on Apple ID will force more people to avoid storing their cryptocurrency on mobile devices, not only on Apple devices. Mobile devices should be considered as one of their hot wallets and should never be used to store all or majority of their cryptocurrency.
924  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sunday off-topic - If not "bitcoin", then what? on: May 21, 2023, 11:18:26 AM
Exactly, that topic is purely about semantics. Not about technology behind, but about the name chosen and what could be alternative names (then and now).
When thing is born and lasted long enough to be accepted and deeply carved in memory, in history, name change is unnecessary.

Like we have Gold, silver, they are only names and it is not big problem if thousands of year ago, our ancestors decided to call gold as silver and vice versa, we will use those terms now without problem.

Same with Bitcoin and altcoin or shitcoin. Bitcoin is borned first then we have altcoins and alternative name for them as shitcoins. If you want to calll Bitcoin as e-cash, digital cash, it is too late now after 14 years since 2009.
925  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does Bitcoin or cryptocurrency offer loan service? on: May 21, 2023, 11:06:46 AM
Does Bitcoin or cryptocurrency offer loan service? Another discussion in another topic with a same title.

Bitcoin is built on Bitcoin blockchain and powered by a blockchain technology. It does not provide any service including loan service. What it provides is a blockchain on which people can build their services.

These loans are typically facilitated through peer-to-peer lending platforms or decentralized finance (DeFi) protocols.
Both sides will have to rely on the DeFi operators and they can lose their coins if the DeFi platform collapses or scam exits.
926  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sunday off-topic - If not "bitcoin", then what? on: May 21, 2023, 10:54:17 AM
Bitcoin is only a name. The name does not make sense but the technology behinds Bitcoin, Blockchain technology is very important.

It's very long history of cryptography before we had Bitcoin and Blockchain technology in 2009.
927  Economy / Gambling / Re: Livecasino.io - 🔥 up to 20% cashback🔥up to 20% rakeback 🚨 instant withdrawals on: May 20, 2023, 03:52:58 PM
I know that this already old question but still I’m interested to know if someone received this promotion. Anybody here received a weekly promotion through sms notification. I’ve been waiting for this promotion since Livecasino announced it long time ago. I connect my mobile phone since then but still I didn’t receive any notification.

I’m thinking if promotion on sms is different with the email
I am not sure about the procedure from Livercasino team but I think sending official information including promotion should be done via emails used by users for registration.

SMS is less secure than email and users can miss SMS too as many things can go wrong for SMS distributions from a foreign company to local users in other countries. SMS can be delayed or never be sent to the receiver as in some countries, they will be strict with SMS delivery from foreign companies which don't have local operators or offices in their nations.
928  Other / Meta / Re: Clarification about Merit on: May 20, 2023, 03:44:18 PM
If I am going to Create a Post and then someone gave merit and then I deleted the Post because I already have the answer that I am Looking for.. will the Merit be removed as well or will I still have it Regardless if the Post is Removed? Thanks for the Answer Awesome Human being!!!!
Merit (your earned merit) stays forever. It won't be decayed or reverted if you don't abuse it seriously. In history of merit system, theymos - a head admin - only did merit revert a few times when a merit source abused his sourced merit.

https://loyce.club/Merit/history/0.html
Usernames to go with theymos' data
Sample
0: deMerit (Bitcoin Forum) (history) earned: 0 Merit

You can delete your posts if those posts are replies in a thread. However, you can not delete your opening post in a thread. Only admin and moderator can trash a whole thread.

929  Other / Meta / [Request] SMF patch for user topic list. on: May 18, 2023, 03:49:41 AM
It is not my new idea. I raised it years ago but none of admin or tech savvy in community make it. Lately we have PowerGlove who wrote some SMF patches for forum.

This idea comes to my brain again today.  Cheesy

Forum has a hidden page for each user, if you want to get your topic list (with topic link too).
Code:
https://bitcointalk.org/gettopics.php?user=3486361
It will list all topics you have ever created.

If you want to narrow the list down to a specific board, use this format
Code:
https://bitcointalk.org/gettopics.php?user=3486361;board=24
Examples for PowerGlove

Could we have a SMF patch for it at bottom of each user profile page?

Current information
Quote
Additional Information:
Send this member a personal message.

Show the last posts of this person.
Show the last topics started by this person.
Show general statistics for this member.

I'd like to have
Quote
Additional Information:
Send this member a personal message.

Show the last posts of this person.
Show the topic list of this person.
Show the last topics started by this person.
Show general statistics for this member.

May you help us with it @PowerGlove?  Cheesy
930  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Minimize your transaction fee with Electrum wallet on: May 18, 2023, 03:27:28 AM
However, you could have missed out one of the tools that was created by one of our dedicated members, bitmover who has taken his time to make sure certain access to on-chain data and tasks can be simplified  Wink

I found this tool very fascinating - https://bitcoindata.science/plot-your-transaction-in-mempool.html it comes in handy for those who have no access to the desktop version of electrum.
I knew about bitmover's tool and used it too but I forgot to mention it as in my memory, that site is under rebuilding process. Thanks.

I will do the same thing as you if fees are high, but will consolidate the inputs if fees are low.
Assuming the network isn't congested and the fee rate of 1 sat/vbyte is enough, with using 1 UTXO instead of all 4 UTXOs, you save around 200 satoshi, but you will still have 4 UTXOs after your transaction and this may cause you to have to pay high fee for your next transactions.
When the network isn't congested and you can make transaction with the fee rate of only 1 sat/vbyte, it's better to use all the UTXOs, even if one of them is enough for making a payment.
I knew about consolidation and how good it is as a preparation for times when transaction fee becomes more expensive later.

However, this thread objective is mainly for 3 options for fee estimation in Electrum wallet. What is the best if you have to pick one as your default option and naively base on it for your transaction fee. It's a Mempool option.

I checked it yesterday and again, Mempool option is the best.
931  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Bitcoin Core 24.0.1 - Copyright should be 2009-2023 on: May 17, 2023, 12:54:57 AM
Download it from https://bitcoincore.org/en/download/

An inaccurate information after clicking on Help > About Bitcoin Core. Developers should correct the Copyright to 2009-2023.  Cheesy
Code:
Bitcoin Core version v24.0.1

Copyright (C) 2009-2022 The Bitcoin Core developers

932  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Minimize your transaction fee with Electrum wallet on: May 17, 2023, 12:34:47 AM
I can confirm this because I figured it out a long way back and since that I only used the mempool feature to pick the transaction fee for all of my transaction via Electrum wallet but they do give inaccurate fee too because of sudden change in the network but the wallet isn't picked it up so we have to go back and set the amount we want to send to find the required fee at the moment.
You can only Electrum gives you inaccurate fee estimation if it is considerable different than real data from mempool at the same time.

Mempool can change a lot when more people broadcast their new transactions to mempool so if you get information from Electrum and mempool at two far time points, difference should be big and in this case, maybe you are wrong, not Electrum.

I think that mempool.space is the best option
It is good for Bitcoin users who are not familiar with mempool to start with. Later, they can use a more advanced website, https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC%20(default%20mempool),8h,weight

Sorry but it's kinda off-topic, I think it's good for them to remind after making such a transaction you can use a free Bitcoin transaction accelerator.  I used ViaBTC to rebroadcast my transaction and put it on priority on the mempool.  It has a limit of 100 transactions per hour.  This contributes to making faster your transaction even if you set it a low-priority fee per bytes based on the mempool status.
ViaBTC has two conditions for free tx accelerator so you must self-check your transaction with those conditions first. You might need to bump your fee rate to their minimal one before submit your transaction to their tx accelerator.
  • The volume of a single transaction must be ≤0.5 KB
  • The transaction fee rate should be ≥ 0.0001 BTC/KB.

For reducing transaction size, you have other ways too but it doesn't apply all the time.
Transaction fees change with time and are not cheap forever for consolidations.

Quote
Consolidating the inputs when the fee is low is a very great solution but in case, if you miss doing so, you can try spending different UTXO in case you want to send a small amount.
I know. More details from [Guide] Wait for opportunity to Consolidate your small inputs and notification when fees are low enough for consolidation.

Quote
You can only use this option in Desktop wallet, not in android app.
Electrum wallet censors some features on its wallet for Android, security-wise likely.
933  Other / Meta / Re: Request for Assistance: Image Errors on Bitcointalk Threads on: May 16, 2023, 04:02:17 PM
Alternative solutions for you.
934  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Minimize your transaction fee with Electrum wallet on: May 16, 2023, 02:24:07 PM
If you are using an Android phone you can easily add mempool to your dashboard for faster transaction fee information.
Use Electrum wallet on mobile (Android) like your hot wallet and store small fraction of bitcoin there, security-wise.

On mobile, you can check mempool by tapping on Network, then tap on any point on the fee color stripe (left is from tip of mempool, right is bottom of it). You can install Electrum and create an empty wallet on your mobile and use it only for mempool checking.

Quote
And Electrum wallet isn't the only Bitcoin wallet that has an adjustable transaction fee, I use Trust wallet and you can also easily adjust your transaction fee in this wallet for Bitcoin..
Trust wallet is close source. You should use open source wallet.

Quote
Most Bitcoin wallets won't automatically adjust few themselves to the minimum, most are always at a maximum fee which is why I will recommend mempool.
Default option and recommended fee rate are for user convenience that means it causes high fee rate, then transaction fee. If you know what to do, make your customization.
935  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Transaction stuck from bitcoin wallet app because 2 low fee. Help on: May 16, 2023, 01:50:22 PM
Transaction ID:  159e82ff52bc29286b123102d0c4786c386bccb5a52bbfd20b08b0d796ea16b4
Your transaction does not have opt-in RBF, so you can not bump the fee.
https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/159e82ff52bc29286b123102d0c4786c386bccb5a52bbfd20b08b0d796ea16b4

You can only make Child Pay For Parent. [TUTORIAL]getting a low-fee transaction unstuck by creating a CPFP with electrum.

Before that, import your Private key from Bitcoin Core to Electrum wallet.

p2wpkh-p2pkh privatekey (if your address starts with 1)
p2wpkh-p2sh privatekey (if your address starts with 3)
p2wpkh-p2wpkh privatekey (if your address starts with bc1)

Importing your private keys into Electrum
936  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Minimize your transaction fee with Electrum wallet on: May 16, 2023, 12:21:40 PM
But in Electrum the fee size is already set. And if the transaction is at the beginning of the horizontal line and the transaction fee is 0.0005663 then there is no way one can reduce the size to reduce the fee again because it has ended. And when you increase the size the fee will also increase. Just like this image below.

As it is you can reduce that fee but can only increase it. And that fee is still a big amount. Now people are still looking for a way to reduce that amount.
Do you understand what you are writing?

Transaction size and fee rate are different. You can control your transaction size by three factors: number of inputs, number of outputs and address type. If all three factors are unchanged, transaction size is fixed but it depends on you, not on Electrum wallet.

Fee rate is another factor you can customize by yourself. I guess you implied about fee rate, not transaction size. Electrum wallet have three options: ETA (Estimate Time of Arrival), Static, Mempool for fee rate estimation. With each option, the software gives you a default value but you can scroll the slider to customize it.

You have to choose inputs, outputs, then fee rate, step by step.
937  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The reason of why Bitcoin is good for trading (for me) on: May 16, 2023, 11:34:13 AM
the reason why I choose BTC is I don't need to worry about it when my trading goes wrong. So if I bought Bitcoin at the peak and the price keep decreasing, I will not sell it
It is only realistic if you are trading with Spot.  Cheesy

If you don't use Spot trading but others like Margin (Leverage) or Future trading types, you will not be able to choose to hold your bitcoins or sell it. The exchange you are using with Leverage, Futures trading type, will pull its trigger to execute forced liquidation.

Forced liquidation
938  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gambling is a choice. on: May 16, 2023, 11:24:13 AM
My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.
Shortly. Refund, No!

Gambling is personal choice.
Where you choose to bet is another personal choice.
You should choose a trusted casino to bet, and gamble responsibly.

A trusted casino is not a casino you are promoting with your signature. They are scam according to [WARNING] Beware of 1xBit casino, investors from Telegram, and Youtube scams!.

Choosing a casino to promote with your signature is another personal choice too.
939  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Minimize your transaction fee with Electrum wallet on: May 16, 2023, 10:56:43 AM
SUMMARY
  • Mempool is the best option. It's much better than ETA and Static but always double check mempool to compare it with given estimation from Electrum wallet.
  • If you know what you are doing, are aware of mempool (volatile memory), you can use any option because with any option, you are free to customize your fee. After your initial broadcast, you can bump your transaction fee later if you want to have faster confirmation.
  • Reminder: Electrum uses sat/vbyte for fee rate but its label is in sat/byte and has yet been corrected by Electrum developers. That issue




Your transaction fee will be decided by transaction size, fee rate. You can save transaction fee by using either lower fee rate or reducing your transaction size.
  • Transaction fee = Transaction size * Fee rate
Let's discover it, step by step!


TRANSACTION SIZE
You can reduce your transaction fee by reduce its size that requires you to know how to use your inputs and outputs effectively.
For inputs, you can reduce the input number by consolidate your small inputs when network is not at high demand from users. Then you can make consolidation with very cheap fee rate.
For outputs, it depends on how many senders you will send your coins too with your sending transaction, including your own change address as part of outputs.
Generally, you can reduce transaction size by using Segwit address (Bech32) that starts with bc1q. Since its deployment in 2017, many wallets and later centralized exchanges support that wallet type.
Please use some Bitcoin Transaction Size Calculators at Reference (bottom) to understand it better.

A strong reminder, you can use centralized exchanges that support Segwit but you should not rely on them. Storing your coins on centralized exchanges, with custodial wallets, is extremely risky.

Let’s control your coins by non-custodial wallets like Electrum, Bitcoin Core wallets. In this guide, I present only Electrum wallet as it fits with newbies and their limited resources for wallet storage.

FEE RATE
Now, let’s move on to fee rate. What is best fee rate for you to use?
It depends on your need.
If you want to move your coins within a short time like 10 or 20 minutes (~ 1 or 2 next blocks), you will have to pay expensive fee at that moment.
If you are not hurry and can wait longer, you can use lower fee rate and wait for like 1 hour (next 6 bocks) or even longer like 12 hours or 24 hours. Remember that if you use too low fee rate, your transaction will be at bottom of mempools and waiting time will be up to 14 days (2 weeks or 2016 blocks). After that, if your transaction is still not confirmed, there is possibility that it will be dropped from mempools.
Note that not all mempools will drop your transaction but some will. That leads to a need that you might see your transaction is Failed, then you will have to re-broadcast it.
Be aware of this risk and avoid to choose extremely low fee rate. If you only need to consolidate your inputs, don’t do this when network is in high demand. Just observe mempools and choose good times to broadcast your transactions.

WHERE TO CHECK FEE RATES?
Check it in mempools. There are some websites to do that but I’d like to recommend two sites:
With mempool.space, you can choose chart option to have better overview. If you are new with this experience, use their main page and get default given information.


The second site, Joe-hoe, is more advanced but it is more helpful.
Now, how to use it?
Block time is about 10 minutes in average. When you broadcast your transaction, it will appear in mempools. Then miners will pick transactions that can give them most beneficial transaction fees (with highest fee rates and biggest sizes). They will prioritize such transactions, and 1 block equals to 1 vMB from tip of mempool.
Hovering the mouse on the mempool chart, you will see different fee bands (in different colors) and corresponding size of waiting transactions within that fee band. Let’s consider and choose a fee band that matches you.

HOW TO CHOOSE FEE RATE WITH ELECTRUM WALLET?
In Electrum wallet, you will have three options when broadcasting your transactions: ETA, Mempool, and Static. Let’s dig into each of them.

Turn on Edit fee manually.

ETA
What does ETA means? It is Estimate Time of Arrival. It means something. It is only estimation of arrival time or first confirmation time for your transaction.

Mempool is lively up and down, so an estimation at the time you broadcast your transaction can be not correct. The actual confirmation time can be longer or shorter than ETA if mempool is up or down, respectively. ETA gives you estimations in time like 30 minutes, 1 hour, etc.
This is disadvantage of ETA option. It usually will cost you more than Mempool and Static options.


Mempool
Mempool is an option which gives you information in how many waiting blocks for your first confirmation, such as within next 1-2 blocks, next 10 blocks, 25 blocks, etc.
It is a better option than ETA. You will have less likely overpay fee for your transaction.


Static
This option is useful when you comprehensively know what you are doing. It is helpful when you only make your transactions when mempool drops to your favorite fee rate.
When you use this option, with your experience and mempool observation, you won’t overpay fee for sure.

Comparison
Compare three options and see difference, ETA and Static options provide overpaid fee than Mempool option. All of them are estimations because we don't know how mempools will become in next 100 minutes.

Within 10 blocks
  • ETA: 106.3 sat/vbyte
  • Static: 100 sat/vbyte
  • Mempool: 14.5 sat/vbyte
Double check with https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC%20(default%20mempool),8h,weight

I checked it yesterday and again, Mempool option is the best.


ELECTRUM ON ANDROID
Use Electrum wallet on mobile (Android) like your hot wallet and store small fraction of bitcoin there, security-wise.

On mobile, you can check mempool by tapping on Network, then tap on any point on the fee color stripe (left is from tip of mempool, right is bottom of it). You can install Electrum and create an empty wallet on your mobile and use it only for mempool checking.


REFERENCES
940  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Does reversal occur with bitcoin transaction. on: May 15, 2023, 10:16:08 AM
I remember there's detailed formula and website which show such calculation, but i couldn't recall either of them.

Edit: Check https://jlopp.github.io/bitcoin-confirmation-risk-calculator for risk calculator.
I linked them in my above post.  Cheesy

In addition, the tool from J. Lopp has a small bug. It does not take into account number after the decimal point. You can test it with two numbers like 30 and 30.1 or 30.99 and 31. Difference only occurs for numbers 30 and 31.

That tool is more accurate: https://web.archive.org/web/20181231045818/https://people.xiph.org/~greg/attack_success.html

Anyone uses Github, please pull a request to J. Lopp and inform him about the bug.
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 [47] 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 ... 437 »
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!