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July 18, 2019, 09:09:23 AM
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https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/gang-of-four-trying-to-start-race-wars/

In my company, we are like the UN. We have EVERY race, creed, and gender among our ranks.
OK, let's check that quickly.

AE Global Solutions, Inc.

https://aeglobalsolutionsinc.com/

That is the About Us page. Nobody there. No people.

So let's find some employees. I could only find one guy who claims he works there at AE Global Solutions and he is an American white.

Bryant Milliren - Lead Software Engineer - AE Global Inc. | LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryant-milliren-a6183229

Haha, well done!
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Lies and Lies

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/gang-of-four-trying-to-start-race-wars/

In my company, we are like the UN. We have EVERY race, creed, and gender among our ranks.

OK, let's check that quickly.

AE Global Solutions, Inc.

https://aeglobalsolutionsinc.com/

That is the About Us page. Nobody there. No people.

So let's find some employees. I could only find one guy who claims he works there at AE Global Solutions and he is an American white.

Bryant Milliren - Lead Software Engineer - AE Global Inc. | LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryant-milliren-a6183229

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud

There's also Brittany, American and white:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/brittany-mullins-63968aa3

She was there handing out badges at the WEC.

Curiously, she is based out of NC, not St Pete... You know, that office that MA claimed was being constructed:
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/new-offices-are-just-about-completed/

That just so happens to be the first result for Regus when searching in St Pete:
https://www.regus.com/offices/united-states/florida/st-petersburg/office-space/florida-st-petersburg-first-central-tower

And costs $85-280 a month for a virtual office.

BIG operation. My guess is the vast Socrates servers are wedged into the parking lot with a slightly peeling, big IBM SEQUOIA sticker haphazardly stuck onto the side of each server case.

An Amazon Echo is hidden among it to give the illusion that Socrates speaks!

Marty is like the David Copperfield of the finance world.


Should someone prove that Marty's operation is indeed like the UN, then at that point, the only thing that the UN does have over Armstrong Economics is a physical office space and a server.
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July 18, 2019, 10:57:34 AM
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Actually there are 2 more:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/arnold-xu-92624738/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/abbascarmody/
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July 18, 2019, 11:26:42 AM
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This is what annoys me the most about him. For months he has been saying how the Dow is in a consolidation and no new highs until 2020. But now he is pumping this 27K and not a word of 2020. Sorry but I didn't listen to him and saw this coming and added more position in my DIA, SPY and opened a new position in QQQ. Yes I anticipated base off of the weight of the evidence. I'd be happy to post my buys from about 1.5/2 weeks ago.

More importantly is the fact that 27k was a major resistance from 1/2018 which has created a triple top and the implications of a break is big. The longer the resistance(1.5 years) the greater the break/ascent. This, plus the fact we have a Head & Shoulders pattern which is normally a continuation pattern. On any breakout there is always a retracement, 27k in this case, so a decline into the fall is not unusual. Oh and the projection on price is from the Dec/18 low is 32,000 and from the first support around 24,000 it's 30,000. This is all TA, so no mystery.  

So, we have resistance at 27k for 1.5 yrs, triple top and a H&S pattern that's usually a continuation pattern. Plus indicators with room to move. Lets not forget millions of traders looking at the same charts and TA. To me this was a buy signal but didn't go to heavy but will buy more on the retracement. Which, if in all the excitement you missed the break is a good entry point.

I'm by no means an expert but this works for me and is available to anyone who wants to use it. Just some observation and actions I took. I guess my point is this could all be done with some research, training and willingness to take the hits(losses) for hardly any cost. In all the years reading MA, buying 1 report and attending 2015 WEC I always fall back on my charts and TA to buy and sell.

I respect that you have more experience in TA and trading than myself, so I read Armstrong 5 years ago back in Oct 2014 forecasting:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/so-when-will-we-know/
'..we are looking at a rally into 2017-2018 with the Dow reaching the 25,000-28,000 level. That would be the minimum target objective...'
BANG ON

Did your charting back then come up with the same? (serious q - not being facetious, promise)

Private blog post Jan 1st 2018 ''..Our three primary targets were 18500, 23700, and then 36000-40000. We also mentioned there would be intermediate resistance at the 25000 and 28000 level..This 25,000-28,000 is the new barrier. Once we get through that area, then the next minimum target becomes 32,000...'

So this 32000 number was forecast way b4 the important Dec 2018 low that you used to get that same number.. so how did he do it?  What charts did he use? I am honestly interested to know..

Well, without looking at my own charts and checking some online ones, if you draw a trend line from the 2016 low to to next low and extent it you will see it intersect the 25k-28k area. He, like most follow the trend and project to the future, of coarse for gains. But I usually always look down first before making a decision. Also if you look at a chart from the year 1800  to present, there are some online and MA also posted one, the Dow is nothing but ascending, the great depression is nothing but a blimp on the chart which to me shows the Dow for many reason will go up over the long term. You probably could also judge the direction from those charts also. Just for perspective he also forecasted Gold $5000+ on 11/7/2009, it's on his blog. I'll look further into this on my own charts.

Here's the link to Gold $5000+
http://s3.amazonaws.com/armstrongeconomics-wp/2012/03/gold-5000-11-7-09.pdf

Here's my Chart and how Targets can be determined. IMO the Dow from 1/2018 to recent is a correction after a long uptrend. As you can see, the Dow is attempting to continue in the steeper red trend after breaking out of the top Yellow trendline and holding the top yellow channel resistance that is now support. Just an observation and thought.
https://imgur.com/a/HnIVrIk
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July 18, 2019, 01:13:39 PM
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I'm intrigued to know, as a UK resident, what Marty said yesterday in his private blog about "Britain in Crisis".
If anyone saw it, would he/she/it mind sketching it out for me, please?

The press/tv here is blitzing us with terrifying scenerios which will occur if/when Brexit happens. [I think they're laying the foundation for another referendum - when we'll be given another chance to, this time, vote the 'right' way!].
Thank you...
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I'm intrigued to know, as a UK resident, what Marty said yesterday in his private blog about "Britain in Crisis".
If anyone saw it, would he/she/it mind sketching it out for me, please?

The press/tv here is blitzing us with terrifying scenerios which will occur if/when Brexit happens. [I think they're laying the foundation for another referendum - when we'll be given another chance to, this time, vote the 'right' way!].
Thank you...
John


The media (especially Anglo-media) is only interested in as many clicks and views as possible. Scary headlines score better.

When it comes to the UK, I'm way more interested in their huge current account deficit, which should be resolved sooner or later, with or without Brexit. UK is living beyond their means for decades now.
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July 18, 2019, 04:49:58 PM
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Here he goes again:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrong-economics-upcoming-events/world-economic-conference/wec-2019-orlando-knockin-on-havens-door-or-the-big-fake-out/

Join Us at the Orlando WEC - Oct. 25-26, 2019
Blog/World Economic Conference
Posted Jul 17, 2019 by Martin Armstrong



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The Pi target on the ECM 11/21/2018 was the start of a slingshot where we had to drop sharply, scare the longs, and then rally to new highs.

Well, I'm not so sure Marty, maybe you need new reading glasses. The beginning of October was the start of the correction, not your ECM date. And the end of December was the start of the slingshot up, also not your ECM date (not by a long shot). Now he kinda says like he's predicted it with his ECM date.

If this is how accurate ECM dates are, they are pretty worthless for trading anything. Also great that he now posts that the December-low and recent high was a slingshot. Is Captain Hindsight Marty's middle name?

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Because all of these things are coming together, the attendees of this year’s Orlando WEC will receive ongoing video updates because this is just such a widespread crisis that is impacting every possible corner of the global economy. The ONLY way to survive this is going to be with Socrates because there is ABSOLUTELY no precedent to which we can refer to in history.

Well I better stock up on Socrates memberships, because when the world implodes and there is no electricity at least I have Socrates.
Hope the videos won't be so worthless as Armstrong's reports and Socrates.
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July 18, 2019, 06:41:50 PM
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Here he goes again:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrong-economics-upcoming-events/world-economic-conference/wec-2019-orlando-knockin-on-havens-door-or-the-big-fake-out/

Join Us at the Orlando WEC - Oct. 25-26, 2019
Blog/World Economic Conference
Posted Jul 17, 2019 by Martin Armstrong

https://i.imgur.com/m3Ma5B4.jpg

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The Pi target on the ECM 11/21/2018 was the start of a slingshot where we had to drop sharply, scare the longs, and then rally to new highs.

Well, I'm not so sure Marty, maybe you need new reading glasses. The beginning of October was the start of the correction, not your ECM date. And the end of December was the start of the slingshot up, also not your ECM date (not by a long shot). Now he kinda says like he's predicted it with his ECM date.

If this is how accurate ECM dates are, they are pretty worthless for trading anything. Also great that he now posts that the December-low and recent high was a slingshot. Is Captain Hindsight Marty's middle name?

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Because all of these things are coming together, the attendees of this year’s Orlando WEC will receive ongoing video updates because this is just such a widespread crisis that is impacting every possible corner of the global economy. The ONLY way to survive this is going to be with Socrates because there is ABSOLUTELY no precedent to which we can refer to in history.

Well I better stock up on Socrates memberships, because when the world implodes and there is no electricity at least I have Socrates.
Hope the videos won't be so worthless as Armstrong's reports and Socrates.

Oh, geez, another reaffirmation of after the fact. Like the old saying goes, "If you want something done right, do it yourself". Or, "Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice, shame on me".
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July 18, 2019, 07:43:44 PM
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Some more Charts that are very interesting. They're for Gold long term, I set these up many, many years ago as a long term indicator. The first one is a Weekly and the bottom is Monthly. The weekly shows a long consolidation, 6 years and this recent move by Gold looks really promising. I've been holding Gold since 2009, so I welcome this with open arms.



Every "idiot" can see that gold is making a gigantic multiyear cup-and-handle pattern, and is now at the lower right side of the cup. Only Armstrong didn't see that and stayed relentlessly bearish until recently.
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July 18, 2019, 10:29:06 PM
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Socrates
From May 30th gold has elected 29 daily reversals of which 27 were Bullish (not included are today's bullish elections). 10 weekly elections all Bullish and 5 monthly elections all of which were bullish, I've recently subscribed but it seems the software gave a few clues to this move.
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July 18, 2019, 10:51:09 PM
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I respect that you have more experience in TA and trading than myself, so I read Armstrong 5 years ago back in Oct 2014 forecasting:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/so-when-will-we-know/
'..we are looking at a rally into 2017-2018 with the Dow reaching the 25,000-28,000 level. That would be the minimum target objective...'
BANG ON

Did your charting back then come up with the same? (serious q - not being facetious, promise)

Private blog post Jan 1st 2018 ''..Our three primary targets were 18500, 23700, and then 36000-40000. We also mentioned there would be intermediate resistance at the 25000 and 28000 level..This 25,000-28,000 is the new barrier. Once we get through that area, then the next minimum target becomes 32,000...'

So this 32000 number was forecast way b4 the important Dec 2018 low that you used to get that same number.. so how did he do it?  What charts did he use? I am honestly interested to know..

Well, without looking at my own charts and checking some online ones, if you draw a trend line from the 2016 low to to next low and extent it you will see it intersect the 25k-28k area. He, like most follow the trend and project to the future, of coarse for gains. But I usually always look down first before making a decision. Also if you look at a chart from the year 1800  to present, there are some online and MA also posted one, the Dow is nothing but ascending, the great depression is nothing but a blimp on the chart which to me shows the Dow for many reason will go up over the long term. You probably could also judge the direction from those charts also. Just for perspective he also forecasted Gold $5000+ on 11/7/2009, it's on his blog. I'll look further into this on my own charts.

Here's the link to Gold $5000+
http://s3.amazonaws.com/armstrongeconomics-wp/2012/03/gold-5000-11-7-09.pdf

Here's my Chart and how Targets can be determined. IMO the Dow from 1/2018 to recent is a correction after a long uptrend. As you can see, the Dow is attempting to continue in the steeper red trend after breaking out of the top Yellow trendline and holding the top yellow channel resistance that is now support. Just an observation and thought.


Thanks for clarifying and showing detailed charts.  I understand that the closer you get to a date, the better you can chart a number.

What do your charts confirm for 2022 and 2024?  Can you give a forecast?

Yes he's forecast maximum $5000 on gold for many years.  I contrast that with others like Rickards and David H Hunter who say $10K gold.  Which is it? Time will tell.


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July 18, 2019, 11:04:38 PM
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I'm intrigued to know, as a UK resident, what Marty said yesterday in his private blog about "Britain in Crisis".
If anyone saw it, would he/she/it mind sketching it out for me, please?

The press/tv here is blitzing us with terrifying scenerios which will occur if/when Brexit happens. [I think they're laying the foundation for another referendum - when we'll be given another chance to, this time, vote the 'right' way!].
Thank you...
John


If Boris becomes Prime Minister there's a chance of a general election and a risk that Corbyn will win - hence the pound is falling.  He's said for a long time that the GBP will most likely go to par with the USD and has been bearish for many years. For a person like me, investing with the major trend (i moved my GBP into USD and US equities) and listening to him (and not others who for the past 5 yrs have said the USD will hyper inflate any day) has kept me in the green.

I have direct relatives living in the UK, Germany, France and the US...  those in the US really have no idea what it's like in Europe right now.  Capital is definitely fleeing..
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July 18, 2019, 11:16:28 PM
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Socrates
From May 30th gold has elected 29 daily reversals of which 27 were Bullish (not included are today's bullish elections). 10 weekly elections all Bullish and 5 monthly elections all of which were bullish, I've recently subscribed but it seems the software gave a few clues to this move.

The plain fact based on numbers provided by Socrates is that Socrates missed the move in a spectacular way:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg51666429#msg51666429

No Weekly Bullish Reversals published in due time were elected during this move.

Yes you may count any number of Weekly Bullish Reversals elected in hindsight but as the quoted article points out, these cannot be traded because they are published exclusively at least one week after they should have been elected, only to be counted as success where in fact the system failed. This false accounting is fraud.

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud
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From May 30th gold has elected 29 daily reversals of which 27 were Bullish (not included are today's bullish elections). 10 weekly elections all Bullish and 5 monthly elections all of which were bullish, I've recently subscribed but it seems the software gave a few clues to this move.

The plain fact based on numbers provided by Socrates is that Socrates missed the move in a spectacular way:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg51666429#msg51666429

No Weekly Bullish Reversals published ahead of time were elected during this move.

Yes you may count any number of Weekly Bullish Reversals elected in hindsight but as the quoted article points out, these cannot be traded because they are published exclusively after they should have been elected, only to be counted as success where in fact the system failed which is fraud.

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud

So in that case the weekly elected reversals were released
and shown as elected the very next day!?
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From May 30th gold has elected 29 daily reversals of which 27 were Bullish (not included are today's bullish elections). 10 weekly elections all Bullish and 5 monthly elections all of which were bullish, I've recently subscribed but it seems the software gave a few clues to this move.

The plain fact based on numbers provided by Socrates is that Socrates missed the move in a spectacular way:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg51666429#msg51666429

No Weekly Bullish Reversals published ahead of time were elected during this move.

Yes you may count any number of Weekly Bullish Reversals elected in hindsight but as the quoted article points out, these cannot be traded because they are published exclusively after they should have been elected, only to be counted as success where in fact the system failed which is fraud.

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud

So in that case the weekly elected reversals were released
and shown as elected the very next day!?

No. They were never released as such. They are falsely quoted only as totals, not even with their price numbers, in the reports, in hindsight, after the fact. Complete bullshit. No trading signals. Please read the article.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg51666429#msg51666429

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud
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July 19, 2019, 12:01:31 AM
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When you say "after the fact" I'm confused. On Socrates presently listed as weekly elected are the 5 elected on the close of 6/21 , previous 5 elected for close of June 7th were on the table as well, I have it all notated as the elections happened.
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When you say "after the fact" I'm confused. On Socrates presently listed as weekly elected are the 5 elected on the close of 6/21 , previous 5 elected for close of June 7th were on the table as well, I have it all notated as the elections happened.

stockpile has been deceived as designed by the Socrates software!


Please read the article.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg51666429#msg51666429

You will find that on each Friday due date, the closing price was below the next available reversal so each time a due reversal was not elected. Seven weeks in a row. Failure. So whatever table you are looking at, that table is wrong for elected reversals in this time span because it reflects elections that never happened.

In other words, it is NOT possible that a Bullish Reversal with a number above closing price is elected. And it is a fraud if later, a week later, a claim is made that it was elected. For this to happen you would need to adjust the price of the reversal down in hindsight. It would be equally wrong if multiple different sources of reversals were available where the system could claim election from reversals from any of these sources (cherry-pick) in hindsight.

We cannot have it both ways - not elected and elected. How long does it take for the penny to drop? You need to inspect the system in real time, and you need to save snapshots every day to see what happened in the past. As unprofessional as Socrates is, is does not do that, and that is why you are confused now. You are confused because you are looking at a bad table that you cannot cross-check against authentic history.

To make this clear: I have the history. I have the reports, with date and closing price, that contain the reversal tables with the reversals that the system failed to elect.

The plain fact is that a Reversal System as applied by Martin Armstrong does not work.

It only appears to work by means of deception. And the deception in this case is elaborate as it is in most fraudulent schemes. It is like Dieselgate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal

The best Armstrong can do is to scrap the service and destroy all source code otherwise the lawyers will be going after him.

Socrates is a system of bad math and false claims, designed to fool people.


Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud
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2 more;
https://www.linkedin.com/in/erwin-pletsch-ab911338
https://ae.linkedin.com/in/ashley-warren-05480480?trk=public_profile_browsemap_mini-profile_title
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https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/future-forecasts/cycles-einstein-galileo-geometry-of-time/

"I was probably about 12 years old and I fell out of a tree and over a cliff falling probably a couple of hundred feet. I was lucky and it was Fall so at the base of the cliff was a mountain of leaves. The leaves broke my fall but my teeth nearly came through my bottom lip. The wind was knocked out of me and my nose was bleeding."

...and when i came to I had a revelation! A vision! A picture in my head! A picture of this! This is what makes time travel possible: the flux capacitor!

He's starting to sound just like a kid who lived in my college dorm who always told the most outlandish stories. He always had to one-up whatever you said. It was fascinating to listen to someone be so creative and believe every word they said no matter how unrealistic the stories got.

It's sad because I've learned a lot from MA about investing, economics, politics, etc. And also because I still believe Socrates has a lot of value as a tool, but needs tons of work to be of value to individual investors. It appears he is unraveling though.
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https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/future-forecasts/cycles-einstein-galileo-geometry-of-time/

"I was probably about 12 years old and I fell out of a tree and over a cliff falling probably a couple of hundred feet. I was lucky and it was Fall so at the base of the cliff was a mountain of leaves. The leaves broke my fall but my teeth nearly came through my bottom lip. The wind was knocked out of me and my nose was bleeding."

...and when i came to I had a revelation! A vision! A picture in my head! A picture of this! This is what makes time travel possible: the flux capacitor!

He's starting to sound just like a kid who lived in my college dorm who always told the most outlandish stories. He always had to one-up whatever you said. It was fascinating to listen to someone be so creative and believe every word they said no matter how unrealistic the stories got.

It's sad because I've learned a lot from MA about investing, economics, politics, etc. And also because I still believe Socrates has a lot of value as a tool, but needs tons of work to be of value to individual investors. It appears he is unraveling though.

Yes I read that this morning and wondered if he might be on medication for something.

If we assume a 200ft drop with an average weight of 40KG for a 12 year old child, then he would have hit those leaves at around 124kmh.

You would likely need several hundred foot of leaves to cushion such a fall, where they fall loose and do not congeal into a convenient trampoline or jelly-like structure.

I think he meant to write:

"I was probably about 12 years old and I fell out of a tree and over a cliff falling probably a couple of hundred centimetres"

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