Martin Armstrong Discussion

[AnonymousCoder]

And BTW there should not be any distinction between Socrates and Martin Armstrong, because Martin Armstrong said that Socrates is a clone of himself:

Socrates is a Software as a Service (SaaS) platform. If Armstrong makes mistakes while reading what Socrates is writing, then it's not Socrates fault. Also Armstrong may simply be too busy to provide timely and extensive updates.
So it is definitely not a 100% clone. I don't get how you can take such a statement literally.

 

Thank you for pointing this out. You are clearly subscribing to this mythical idea that this Socrates contraption is infallible and that in case of prediction failure, it is only the ignorance of the people including Martin Armstrong himself who are to blame for not knowing how to use it. I suggest you read the following article:

Socrates Technical Analysis Prediction Magic
https://armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com/2019/07/socrates-technical-analysis-prediction.html

This article explains how it is the ambiguity of the information provided that lets it get away with any failure.

Then it is at the discretion of the support staff to blame the user for not understanding how Socrates works.

BTW I am having fun taking some of the stuff that Martin Armstrong writes literally. It provides me with these endless opportunities to rinse and repeat - because what needed to be written about Martin Armstrong has been written here and quite honestly, Martin Armstrong is not not such a complex character that a book could be filled about him.

You may want to listen to one of his latest interviews at

https://play.acast.com/s/53a91a47-e3e9-4cbe-8713-07ff90f5e6f9/newsvoice.podbean.com%2Fmartin-armstrong-bitcoin-is-the-biggest-money-laundering-scam-in-its-history-24b00f90dd1700f333f1ee8f1a4eedd1

"Martin Armstrong: Bitcoin is the biggest money laundering scam in its history"

You will experience his wisdom and depth of thought first hand.

He cannot even respond properly to the first question. Instead he is getting to his own case of contempt of court and all that mess which he went to jail for. Disgusting. That is when I closed the page. After his first attempt of building a sentence.

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for a reason.

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

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[Alex-11]

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It looks like you have acknowlegded that Socrates can't be a 100% clone of Armstrong. good.  Rest of what you wrote are new, unrelated topics (in regards to clone or not clone) which I'm not going to respond to.

[AnonymousCoder]

you have failed to properly respond to my argument. Instead you start writing about 5 other, unrelated topics. As usual.

You are quite right. I am not responding to your arguments with the aim of discussing things. I am here only to publish material when I feel it is due and you have provided me with an opportunity. It is obvious that you are defending the Socrates contraption which for you seems to be almost like some kind of currency. I do not actually think that I will change your mind.

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

[s29]

Would anyone care to share what Martin Armstrong's private blog say about gold at the moment? I think his macro views are worth listening to, but Socrates is a waste of time and money.

Regarding the macro view, the rear mirror perspective should be shown more often. Here it is. Directly from the private blog. You check his macro view and tell me what its value was from that perspective:

Gold for the Close of June 2019
Monday, 01 July 2019
By: Marty Armstrong
Gold finished below the 1417 number which we expected would happen since the rally was still premature. Nevertheless, the fact that it closed well above 1362.50 suggests that we should move back to retest this now as support.
According to our sources, the central banks which have been buying gold are all on the opposite side of the political table from the US and Europe. It appears that they have been buying gold NOT because they think this is a bull market, but out of fear that we are headed into a geopolitical conflict. Trump does not want to commit troops to war, but the neocons do! They will support either Republican or Democrat as long as they get to start wars in the Middle East.
From a purely technical perspective, the major support will now lie at 1275. Our Energy model is a slightly positive warning that the rally has NOT been one of broad support to date.

Wow, that was really completely worthless from Marty  
So the gold price breaks the 136x level just slightly and already talking about retesting the breakout way too early. That's not how markets work.

[olegrey]

On Friday the DOW elected the bearish reversal of 26020.05 with a closing of 25628.90 a 1.5% difference.  I have bought a position in DOG

[Jason100]

Its Interesting to say, visiting the site/Discussion for first time, the page prints 314. 

[AnonymousCoder]

On Friday the DOW elected the bearish reversal of 26020.05 with a closing of 25628.90 a 1.5% difference. I have bought a position in DOG

I have seen as many good reversals as I have seen bad reversals that were outside the 1% rule such as this one.

I guess you believe that a flat-earth system such as Socrates can predict future price movement by simply inspecting the time series (which is what it does and nothing else).

Then if this reversal fails, then the Socrates system has the built-in ambiguity to tell you that YOU were wrong because you did not strictly follow the 1% rule. You will find in hindsight that you could have seen this by looking at the forecast array which is again ambiguous. You would have seen that there was some kind of turning point and you should have traded in the opposite direction.

That is why this system is a scam. Not because it is not always right. No system can always be right.

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

[Alex-11]

Its Interesting to say, visiting the site/Discussion for first time, the page prints 314. 

welcome to this chat room  forum. I don't know why people prefer a single thread over a proper forum. There are only 6000 messages in this thread  

[Alex-11]

....by looking at the forecast array which is again ambiguous....

Forcast arrays have clear rules which you can follow.  There are a few situation were it's hard to decide whether it's turning point, cycle inversion or sideways movement, but in general there is not that much ambiguity if you follow all the rules

[Jason100]

....by looking at the forecast array which is again ambiguous....

Forcast arrays have clear rules which you can follow.  There are a few situation were it's hard to decide whether it's turning point, cycle inversion or sideways movement, but in general there is not that much ambiguity if you follow all the rules

Hi Alex, thanks

Yes I agree as well, its from the viewpoint of Cycles, and how they interfere, I am not a strict follower of Socrates per se, dont trade on it, as I am more a technical trader done it 15 years research, built my own rules , but when something comes up,(often)
I will look at it/him ECM and look  for correlations and Syncs, especially on timing. I have been following the guy for 15 years, from the famous letters from inside, then looked at the guy ,past and present, attended some WECs. His experience alone, is massive, and thats what counts. I will try to add, to the discussion, anything valuable, from the System alone or what he says.

[Jason100]

as MA has told numerous times, dailies are noise.

I think he said that only because he thinks weekly and monthly is easier to trade.

this is interesting indeed, he says that because the higher time frame has a 'weighted advantage' compared to the lower. The "wave" in the higher is stronger.
but still not noise, when you trade the daily, but have to check both.

[s29]

Another top notch forecast by the great Martin Armstrong:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/china/china-warning-the-hong-kong-protests-are-a-color-revolution/

Posted Aug 26, 2019 by Martin Armstrong

Our key turning points remains unchanged – September, November, and the big one is January coinciding with the turn in the Economic Confidence Model. We do see rising volatility in the currency come October.

Just name 4 of the next 5 months that are important months.

[AnonymousCoder]

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Yes I agree as well, its from the viewpoint of Cycles, and how they interfere, I am not a strict follower of Socrates per se, dont trade on it, as I am more a technical trader done it 15 years research, built my own rules , but when something comes up,(often)
I will look at it/him ECM and look  for correlations and Syncs, especially on timing. I have been following the guy for 15 years, from the famous letters from inside, then looked at the guy ,past and present, attended some WECs. His experience alone, is massive, and thats what counts. I will try to add, to the discussion, anything valuable, from the System alone or what he says.

Identified

Another newbie to add to the list of affiliate aliases:

Gumbi, Strike Eagle 26, over45, Alex-11, Jason100

Wash, rinse and repeat. We will see a lot of superlatives but no facts. A guy with 15 years of research and no facts. Let's keep him engaged to expose that banality again and again for everyone else to see.

The facts can be found in this forum:

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

[DanB1]

Identified

Another newbie to add to the list of affiliate aliases:

Gumbi, Strike Eagle 26, over45, Alex-11, Jason100

Wash, rinse and repeat. We will see a lot of superlatives but no facts. A guy with 15 years of research and no facts. Let's keep him engaged to expose that banality again and again for everyone else to see.

Haha, I was thinking exactly the same.

[DanB1]

Forcast arrays have clear rules which you can follow.  There are a few situation were it's hard to decide whether it's turning point, cycle inversion or sideways movement, but in general there is not that much ambiguity if you follow all the rules

One of the rules is indeed the 1% rule. Three weeks ago I wrote:

Gold elected the "important" monthly reversal in June. We closed 1,392.08. The Bullish monthly was 1,362.50. (~2,2% above the reversal).
So according to the 1% rule we need to test the 1,362.5 reversal within 3 time frames (3 months, so July, August or September).

At the moment gold is testing 1,500 so it would need to come down ~9%.
I'm hoping it will test 1,362.5 as I would like to buy more but I think it's not reachable.


At this moment Gold is around 1,530.
@Alex-11, Do you still see it testing the reversal at 1,362.50?

[Jason100]

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Yes I agree as well, its from the viewpoint of Cycles, and how they interfere, I am not a strict follower of Socrates per se, dont trade on it, as I am more a technical trader done it 15 years research, built my own rules , but when something comes up,(often)
I will look at it/him ECM and look  for correlations and Syncs, especially on timing. I have been following the guy for 15 years, from the famous letters from inside, then looked at the guy ,past and present, attended some WECs. His experience alone, is massive, and thats what counts. I will try to add, to the discussion, anything valuable, from the System alone or what he says.

Identified

Another newbie to add to the list of affiliate aliases:

Gumbi, Strike Eagle 26, over45, Alex-11, Jason100

Wash, rinse and repeat. We will see a lot of superlatives but no facts. A guy with 15 years of research and no facts. Let's keep him engaged to expose that banality again and again for everyone else to see.

The facts can be found in this forum:

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud

See https://armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog

Do you have any Idea on Trading for yourself , or do you just blame other people in your life ? Do you have any real experience on the subject ?

[DanB1]

...
Yes I agree as well, its from the viewpoint of Cycles, and how they interfere, I am not a strict follower of Socrates per se, dont trade on it, as I am more a technical trader done it 15 years research, built my own rules , but when something comes up,(often)
I will look at it/him ECM and look  for correlations and Syncs, especially on timing. I have been following the guy for 15 years, from the famous letters from inside, then looked at the guy ,past and present, attended some WECs. His experience alone, is massive, and thats what counts. I will try to add, to the discussion, anything valuable, from the System alone or what he says.

Identified

Another newbie to add to the list of affiliate aliases:

Gumbi, Strike Eagle 26, over45, Alex-11, Jason100

Wash, rinse and repeat. We will see a lot of superlatives but no facts. A guy with 15 years of research and no facts. Let's keep him engaged to expose that banality again and again for everyone else to see.

The facts can be found in this forum:

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud

See https://armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog

Do you have any Idea on Trading for yourself , or do you just blame other people in your life ? Do you have any real experience on the subject ?

As I said before, I'm 41 now and financially independent thanks to my investments.
So I think I don't have to blame anyone. Just MA for losing me a lot of money.

[AnonymousCoder]

Do you have any Idea on Trading for yourself , or do you just blame other people in your life - Do you have any real experience on the subject ?

Wrong question, wrong approach. I am not here to answer your question. You came out announcing that YOU would make contributions. Where are they? 15 years of experience with what exactly? Please provide material that is useful for the readers of this forum. Otherwise what is the point?

The fact that we want to engage you on the subject does not mean that you can engage me with personal attacks. Everything that needs to be said has already been said here so I do not have anything to answer. I am only here to dismantle these Martin Armstrong lies.


There are indeed people in this forum who talked about themselves in detail, and they are recommending to stay away from Martin Armstrong's product:

blinder007

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg51632101#msg51632101

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

[Jason100]

Do you have any Idea on Trading for yourself , or do you just blame other people in your life ? Do you have any real experience on the subject ?

Wrong question, wrong approach. I am not here to answer your question. You came out announcing that YOU would make contributions. Where are they? 15 years of experience with what exactly? Please provide material that is useful for the readers of this forum. Otherwise what is the point?

The fact that we want to engage you on the subject does not mean that you can engage me with personal attacks. Everything that needs to be said has already been said here so I do not have anything to answer. I am only here to dismantle these Martin Armstrong lies.


There are indeed people in this forum who talked about themselves in detail, and they are recommending to stay away from Martin Armstrong's product:

blinder007

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg51632101#msg51632101

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud

See https://armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog

Yea wrong approach to what ? to you ? I am not here to prove other people work or teach you how to trade. I have made my mind and experience. So lets get on with the talk of the Trading Stuff, and leave the Identified-Categorize-newbies Superlatives personal attacks as you clearly did.
Technical Analysis is the most important tool, on trading, (IMO- Yea everyone has an opinion - just respect that).

[MTL4]

Forcast arrays have clear rules which you can follow.  There are a few situation were it's hard to decide whether it's turning point, cycle inversion or sideways movement, but in general there is not that much ambiguity if you follow all the rules

Since you appear to be an expert on such things, where exactly is this set of rules laid out?  How about providing a link so we may all benefit.

Another top notch forecast by the great Martin Armstrong:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/china/china-warning-the-hong-kong-protests-are-a-color-revolution/

Posted Aug 26, 2019 by Martin Armstrong

Our key turning points remains unchanged – September, November, and the big one is January coinciding with the turn in the Economic Confidence Model. We do see rising volatility in the currency come October.

Just name 4 of the next 5 months that are important months.

Unfortunately the arrays for these "predictions" are rarely shown anymore so you are left guessing as to what it actually means.