Martin Armstrong Discussion

[Alex-11]

Nobody cares about what you say.

That's wrong 
And please stop spamming this forum with your mantra's!
This is not your forum!   


@Gumbi
you are absolutely right. He lost patience and now wants revenge. He can't accept opinions that differ from his own.

[AnonymousCoder]

Nobody cares about what you say.

That's wrong
And please stop spamming this forum with your mantra's!
This is not your forum! -

Talks to self. Gee, I have been waiting for this to happen for weeks. You are so clueless. Now everybody can see that Gumbi, Alex-11, over45, and Strike Eagle 26 use this forum for Socrates marketing. Go ahead. Talk to "each other" and ask each other some fake questions as in the armstrongeconomics.com blog


And, because Socrates does not work ...

Martin Armstrong misrepresents hypothetical performance results:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg51666429#msg51666429

We did some work to find out and nobody could challenge the results. Now the game is over.

Gumbi, Strike Eagle 26, over45 and Alex-11, you Martin Armstrong affiliates. Nobody is asking you for advice here. Nobody is interested. People don't ask questions here about Socrates, a discredited "system", any more. Did you not notice? How long do you want to play this game? Go away and post at armstrongeconomics.com. People who want your stuff can go there. This is clearly not your forum.

This Armstrong discussion has developed, reached a certain stage. This can't be reversed. Discussions reach conclusions. After more than 300 pages. Now you want to ignore all that and start from scratch? Not here. Do that at armstrongeconomics.com.

And here we are learning about opinions:

@Gumbi
you are absolutely right. He lost patience and now wants revenge. He can't accept opinions that differ from his own.

So far the most opinions come from Gumbi, Strike Eagle 26, over45 and Alex-11. Never any facts because nobody could show anything that works. Never. I am not interested in opinions, only facts. First it is hard to find the facts, but it is extremely easy to repeat them because they cannot be disputed. And that is what you are getting from my replies. You write to me what I am not interested in: Opinion. I respond with what you are not interested in: Facts.


Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

[Alex-11]

Closest Weekly published Bullish Reversals:

Date            Close Reversal   Comment
2019-05-10 128740  132590   Reversal too high to elect
2019-05-17 127570  131480   Reversal too high to elect
2019-05-24 128360  129100   Reversal too high to elect
2019-05-31 131110  131480   Reversal too high to elect
2019-06-07 134610  136270   Reversal too high to elect
2019-06-14 134450  134990   Reversal too high to elect
2019-06-21 140010  144370   Reversal too high to elect

This is evidence that not a single published Weekly Bullish Reversal was elected during this seven week rally. Unfortunately, Socrates pushed the Reversals higher and higher, out of reach.

So here are the facts.
AnonymousCoder claimed the above.
During that 7 week rally there were the following number of reversals elected. These were taken from the dashboard reversals table and always in advance published. Not only were they in the dashboard, but also in the reversals tab and after elected, they also showed up in the elected reversals table.
Week of 05/27  -  1 bullish  Reversals elected
Week of 06/03  -  5 bullish  Reversals elected
Week of 06/10  -  no reversal elected
Week of 06/17  -  8 bullish Reversals elected

no bearish reversal was elected until today from the week of 05/27.

Claiming that no single published weekly bullish reversal was elected is therefore wrong. Socrates got the move perfectly right, only considering the reversals. (see the below link to the Gold chart)
Even from the above table it's easy to see that bullish reversals were elected. They move from the reversals table to the elected reversals table,  only once elected. So this there is no "phantom" in this case,

https://imgur.com/kb4rvct.gif

[AnonymousCoder]

Failed Challenge

Closest Weekly published Bullish Reversals:

Date - - - - - Close Reversal - Comment
2019-05-10 128740 132590 - Reversal too high to elect
2019-05-17 127570 131480 - Reversal too high to elect
2019-05-24 128360 129100 - Reversal too high to elect
2019-05-31 131110 131480 - Reversal too high to elect
2019-06-07 134610 136270 - Reversal too high to elect
2019-06-14 134450 134990 - Reversal too high to elect
2019-06-21 140010 144370 - Reversal too high to elect

This is evidence that not a single published Weekly Bullish Reversal was elected during this seven week rally. Unfortunately, Socrates pushed the Reversals higher and higher, out of reach.

AnonymousCoder claimed the above.
During that 7 week rally there were the following number of reversals elected. These were taken from the dashboard reversals table and always in advance published. Not only were they in the dashboard, but also in the reversals tab and after elected, they also showed up in the elected reversals table.
Week of 05/27 - 1 bullish Reversals elected

You are a bit late with this. However, just one example should be enough to disprove your point: Week ends Friday 05/31, close is 131110 so the elected reversal should be in the reversal table before election, one day before on Thursday 05/30. The nearest planned Weekly Bullish Reversal on Thursday is 131480 which is above the Friday close. No reversal was elected.

This is repeated in two reports. The number appears three times, including in the text in the summary report:

Relying on our Reversal System, Using the Weekly level, the next Bullish Reversal to watch stands at 131480 while the Weekly Bearish Reversal lies at 126780.


YOU are quoting the fake reversal that can be seen only after the fact. You don't even quote numbers only counts which is consistent with what I found. Interesting that you are perpetuating the fraud here in real time again to give me yet another opportunity to expose it for all to see.

This is the ultimate proof that this elaborate scam needs even MORE repeating of the facts because the bullshit flies so high and these stinking reversals are just designed to confuse everybody.

I have to say that I use a REAL COMPUTER to discover this fraud not Martin Armstrong's contraption.

Week of 06/03 - 5 bullish Reversals elected
Week of 06/10 - no reversal elected
Week of 06/17 - 8 bullish Reversals elected

no bearish reversal was elected until today from the week of 05/27.

Claiming that no single published weekly bullish reversal was elected is therefore wrong. Socrates got the move perfectly right, only considering the reversals.
Even from the above table it's easy to see that bullish reversals were elected. They disappeared only once elected. So this there is no phantom in this case,

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

[Alex-11]

successfully challenged

just one example should be enough: Week ends Friday 05/31, close is 131110 so the elected reversal should be in the reversal table before election,

The elected reversal was 1291 and it was indeed only visible in the dashboard in advance.  That's why I said, better use only the dashboard at this time for reversals.
If you have archived the dashboard,  you should find that number.

And then there are these other 13 elected reversals which you didn't comment at all, except  that you don't seem to have archived those numbers but you want uncover an alleged fraud without even having all of the data yourself.
As I said, you have given yourself some of the reversals that were elected. e.g.
2019-05-31 131110  131480
2019-06-07 134610  136270  

These 2 were elected in the week of 06/03 and 06/17
There is no need to post the other 11 reversals because only 1 elected reversal per week is already enough. to prove that you are wrong with claiming that no reversals were elected.


It looks like you have to compensate your lack of arguments by constantly screaming (bold text) at the forum

[AnonymousCoder]

Failed Challenge

just one example should be enough: Week ends Friday 05/31, close is 131110 so the elected reversal should be in the reversal table before election,

The elected reversal was 1291 and it was indeed only visible in the dashboard in advance. That's why I said, better use only the dashboard at this time for reversals.
If you have archived the dashboard, you should find that number.

And then there are these other 13 elected reversals which you didn't comment at all, except that you don't seem to have archived those numbers but you want uncover an alleged fraud without even having all of the data yourself.
As I said, you have given yourself some of the reversals that were elected. e.g.
2019-05-31 131110 131480
2019-06-07 134610 136270

These 2 were elected in the week of 06/03 and 06/17
There is no need to post the other 11 reversals because only 1 elected reversal per week is already enough. to prove that you are wrong with claiming that no reversals were elected.


It looks like you have to compensate your lack of arguments by constantly screaming (bold text) at the forum

It is not possible to reconcile your statements with the report content:

Relying on our Reversal System, Using the Weekly level, the next Bullish Reversal to watch stands at 131480 while the Weekly Bearish Reversal lies at 126780.

Saying one should look at this part of the report and not another one, and saying this weeks after the fact is cherry-picking. Also this means that users of different levels of Socrates get different reversals so they would be trading against each other. Disgusting.

If you are saying that the reversals in the reversal table in the summary report which is part of the premium subscription are wrong, then this is devastating and you should have taken the system off-line immediately because there is no warning in the report that says that the numbers are wrong and the dashboard should be used.

Do you not realize that you are insulting Socrates users with this?

You cannot assume that all Socrates users are aware of the content of this blog even before it is posted. Meanwhile I must assume that your claims are simply wrong because they are made after the fact, obviously contradicting authentic archived data - just to get out of this mess.

Too bad for you. I cannot help you there. It is simply not credible that a decades old reversal system cannot get the reversal numbers printed for years. The numbers are in the reports since January 2018. You are basically saying that these numbers have been wrong since then. Printed in two different reports, while being printed there three times with the same values consistently. Perhaps send Martin Armstrong on a computer course?



I am suggesting you are turning the lights off. Your claims and recommendations regarding the system are getting more grotesque and unprofessional by the day.


Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

[Alex-11]

It is not possible to reconcile your statements with the report content:

That's why I said, look it the dashboard reversals table

Saying one should look at this part of the report and not another one, and saying this weeks after the fact is cherry-picking.

It's not cherry picking. In the revesal system it doesn't matter how many reversals got elected. 1 elected reversal is enough.

Also this means that users of different levels of Socrates get different reversals so they would be trading against each other. Disgusting.

total non-sense. Everybody who has purchased the Pro Level will gets the same reports.
If you have only subscribed to the Detailed Market Subscription, then of course you get less than the premium level. You get what you pay for.

If you are saying that the reversals in the reversal table in the summary report which is part of the premium subscription are wrong, ,,,,

Sometimes yes, they are incomplete. You've got it. awesome   . Look in the dashboard table instead!

because there is no warning in the report......

yes, there should be a warning.

I must assume that your claims are simply wrong because they are made after the fact,

did you read my last post thoroughly ?

I did say that you posted those reversals yourself!

[AnonymousCoder]

It's not cherry picking. In the revesal system it doesn't matter how many reversals got elected. 1 elected reversal is enough.

It is cherry picking. There was never a single electable reversal. Because you are assuming that the once failed un-elected reversal gets elected the following week. It is wrong because the system did not keep this reversal. It pushed it up so it was never electable even once. The process repeatedly failed week after week. In other words the nearest reversal was never confirmed.

total non-sense. If you've purchased the Pro Level, then everybody gets the same reports.
If you have only subscribed to the Detailed Market Subscription, then of course you get less than the premium level.

The simple fact is that different users get different reversals. Tell me this is true which you did then you are saying that different users are trading against each other which is what I said and which is disgusting.

You simply don't have any credibility. You are looking at the topic four weeks after I posted the issue at

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg51666429#msg51666429

trying to find excuses now instead of warning the users THEN when it would have been appropriate.

The day after I posted this, there should have been warnings in the reports.

As I wrote earlier, you are insulting the Socrates users with this. You can't have it both ways. You have failed completely in the execution of your duties.

And, there is no reason to believe that the reversals were actually in the dashboard as you say. It is too unlikely that the system simultaneously produces two different sets of reversals. You might just be saying this because you know that I have not archived the dashboard which you haven't, either. So I prefer to stick with the facts.

And here is the logic to support my last claim: If in fact there had been a discrepancy between the reversals in the dashboard and the reports, then at least one of the hundreds of users of the system would have noticed that. Since that wasn't the case because only now you raise this, your claims are more likely than not completely bogus.





Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

[Alex-11]

Because you are assuming that the once failed un-elected reversal gets elected the following week. It is wrong because the system did not keep this reversal.

yes,the system keeps those reversals. The 1362 reversal number was there even for years and election failed several times.

It pushed it up so it was never electable even once. The process repeatedly failed week after week. In other words the nearest reversal was never confirmed.

That is not how the reversal system works.  In 98% of the cases, reversals are fixed. They don't change. Only when they are elected they are taken of the list. Or if the market makes a big move in the opposite direction, then it may change.  In very rare cases some get removed.

The simple fact is that different users get different reversals.

with the same subscription level?  Never heard and never seen.

different users are trading against each

This is a theoretical construct of yours. Please explain what you mean. How is this supposed to play out? For example, in the Gold or Forex and Index markets there is huge liquidity. How is this supposed to work in such markets?
Actually you don't need to explain it, because it doesn't matter. The point was that the Reversal did work well during the last big move in Gold.

then at least one of the hundreds of users of the system would have noticed that

well, look here  http://armstrong.forumprofi.de/showthread.php?tid=76&pid=232#pid232

You might just be saying this because you know that I have not archived the dashboard

You said yourself that you've archived like crazy.
If someone in the forum wants to look it up, then look on 05/25 until 05/31. It was there only 1 week. It came on the 25th very short term and right on time.

[AnonymousCoder]

Because you are assuming that the once failed un-elected reversal gets elected the following week. It is wrong because the system did not keep this reversal.

yes,the system keeps those reversals. The 1362 reversal number was there even for years and election failed several times.

The 1362 reversal would have been electable on Fri:

Date - - - Close Reversal - Comment
2019-06-21 140010 - 144370 - Reversal too high to elect


The 1362 reversal number is not in any report. That system is garbage. Nothing matches.


THE SOCRATES PREMIUM OVERVIEW COMMENTARY, NY GOLD NEAREST FUTURES AS OF THE CLOSE OF Thu. Jun. 20, 2019:

REVERSAL MAP SYSTEM
-- DAILY -- | -- WEEKLY -- | - MONTHLY - |

 165510 | 1 | 167040 | 1 | 167240 | 1 |
 165390 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 165010 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 163610 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 161980 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 161450 | 2 | ....... | 0 | 161660 | 1 |
 161050 | 1 | 161290 | 1 | ....... | 0 |
 160910 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 160840 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 160510 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 160170 | 1 | ....... | 0 | 160440 | 1 |
 159020 | 1 | 159020 | 1 | ....... | 0 |
 158860 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 158320 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 156820 | 1 | ....... | 0 | 156990 | 1 |
 156430 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 148490 | 1 | 148730 | 1 | 148730 | 1 |
 147960 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 147850 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 146130 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 144500 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 142400 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
 142340 | 1 | 142340 | 1 | ....... | 0 |
 141160 | 1 | 141650 | 1 | 141650 | 1 |
 140010 | 1 | ....... | 0 | ....... | 0 |
----------------------------------------


Applying our Reversal System, Using the Weekly level, the next Bullish Reversal to watch stands at 144370 while the Weekly Bearish Reversal lies at 128070.



Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

[Alex-11]

The 1362 reversal would have been electable on Fri:
The 1362 reversal number is not in any report. That system is garbage. Nothing matches.

Is this from the Premium Overview?
I never use that page to check reversals.
That are the discrepancies the banner is warning about. I know, it's not nice.
Once they have removed the banner, this problem should be solved. Or if you asked me, it should be fixed by tomorrow.

[AnonymousCoder]

well, look here ?http://armstrong.forumprofi.de/showthread.php?tid=76&pid=232#pid232

So since 04/04/2019, since you posted in a different forum not this one, for almost three months, you personally know that the Reversals in the reports are garbage. To hell with the users. Let's charge them anyway.

Something does not add up here.

Wherever I look I find a new piece this Sh*t. If I was you I would look for a new job. Honestly.


I wrote it many times in this forum. I repeat the fact nothing else. I can't help it if the people prefer the opinions and ignore the facts. In the end, I was right all along and I did not make a single mistake. Because I stay away from the opinion.






Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

[AnonymousCoder]

The 1362 reversal would have been electable on Fri:
The 1362 reversal number is not in any report. That system is garbage. Nothing matches.
 

Is this from the Premium Overview?

Yes. And the number of the next electable reversal is the same as in the trader level. Which means the trader level gets garbage reversals as well.




Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

[Alex-11]

well, I've invited people several times to check out my forum. Most of the times I didn't take this thread serious because MAtalk and Sloanf ẃere here and discussed things I was not interest in.

So now I've mentioned this thing here in the forum and looks like you would love to call me an a........ . This is the tone here sometimes on this thread. Not very inviting.

[AnonymousCoder]

well, I've invited people several times to check out my forum. Most of the times I didn't take this thread serious because MAtalk and Sloanf ?ere here and discussed things I was not interest in.

So now I've mentioned this thing here in the forum and looks like you would love to call me an a........ . This is the tone here sometimes on this thread. Not very inviting.

Not really. We need to understand that this is about serious money that is being charged, while Martin Armstrong would perhaps prefer to be called a genius while delivering a shoddy product, and that his clients behave like this is some kind of social club. And it is you guys who always blame the users for anything while conveniently using their precious time to let them test out the system for your convenience while being charged.

This is a complete rip-off and you should not be surprised that people are getting extremely angry about this especially if they find Martin Armstrong lying about almost everything at every corner.

What I mean is that it is not a good environment to work in.

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

[Alex-11]

I admit , it are difficult circumstances and at times I was also quite frustrated (mildly put).  However, I've waited several years for this to be released and the trader version  has been out  only 6 month ago. So for me it's not a big thing to wait another 6 month for the bugs to be fixed.
I just train myself on what works well (e.g. Reversals) and omit what currently doesn't work well (e.g. reversal from other paces then dashboard table,  daily and weekly arrays). For me the Socrates subscription is an investment that doesn't have to pay off quickly. I save myself the time and money to go to a WEC and for that money I can have almost 2 full years of Socrates Pro subscription with 5 assets

[AnonymousCoder]

I admit , it are difficult circumstances and at times I was also quite frustrated (mildly put). However, I've waited several years for this to be released and the trader version has been out only 6 month ago. So for me it's not a big thing to wait another 6 month for the bugs to be fixed.
I just train myself on what works well (e.g. Reversals) and omit what currently doesn't work well (e.g. reversal from other paces then dashboard table, daily and weekly arrays). For me the Socrates subscription is an investment that doesn't have to pay off quickly. I save myself the time and money to go to a WEC and for that money I can have almost 2 full years of Socrates Pro subscription with 5 assets

This is interesting. How to win, save money, without trading, just by buying the Socrates junk, trying to understand it while it is broken. In German, this would be called Milchm?dchenrechnung, pretzel logic.

It might be better to just wait until the bugs are fixed, and then test drive the final product. This would have an advantage as follows: If Armstrong dies before the bugs are fixed, then you win the most because Socrates will never be released and you saved a lot of time not having to learn anything about the product.

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

[Lindegas]

...
All MA is doing is trying to leave his Socrates system so his kids or other family members can continue to fleece the sheeple who believe that this system actually works. Ive tried the Pro version with another poster on here whose very well schooled in the trading game and plain and simple it doesn’t work
The penny finally dropped for me when he posted in late December or very early January
DO NOT GO LONG!!!  well no further comment required on that statement..
He is a Dud Dude who makes his money pulling the Socrates scam

Thank you!

He wants this to be his retirement scheme. Since we have proof that it does not work, it is our duty to prevent this scam from continuing.

Socrates does not work.
Martin Armstrong is still misrepresenting hypothetical performance results:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg51666429#msg51666429


Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud

See https://armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog

Armstrong is worth an absolute fortune he doesn't need the money, you clearly know nothing about him. I can understand your criticism of ask-socrates it does need a lot of work still and can be confusing. The most likely reason you and others are not having success is because you were day trading and not playing more strategically like in line with the ECM. we already have all his major predictions based off the ECM(business cycle) so by 2024 you are going to realize your mistake and you would be a fool to bet against the ECM.

the next wave is 2020.05 to 2028.65, the peak of that wave will be 2024.35(major turning point) the top and bottom of each wave is where the markets tend to make highs or lows so we have a commodity boom from 2020(low) with a high in 2024,  agricultural boom from 2020 with a high in 2024. Armstrong is also calling for a equities to breakout from 2020 with a temporary high in 2024

@MA_talk

The ECM is probably the best way to trade, in line with the business cycle. There is also no need to argue about it not being accurate to the day because this is not going to help you with your trade. Each market has its own unique cycle so it often will not line up perfectly with the ECM so for example the Dow Jones may make a cycle low in December which looks likely based off the monthly array since we also have a directional change in January.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/what-kind-of-trader-is-trading/



I don’t really care if he’s worth a fortune nor do I care if he thinks he’s so much smarter than 5he rest of humanity
What I care about is if someone sells me something or a product then I expect and demand that the service or product does as claimed.
If not then that person or company has an obligation to prove it does what It says it does or to instruct the purchaser on the correct use of that service or product
MA does nothing to rectify, prove otherwise nor instruct his subscribers in any w@y shape or form.

Now as for you Gumbi as u have your head so far up MAs ass that he can’t scratch it then why don’t u post the evidence as has been asked of u by others on this forum. YOU CANT BECAUSE IT DOESNT WORK.

[Alex-11]

This is interesting. How to win, save money, without trading,

For me, the reversals are accurate today already. That's why i think it is worth having the subscription.  The system is complex, that's why I need time to understand everything. I want to trade with real money only if I can make profit with virtual money. I've already lost some real money because I've done stupid trades and I don't want this to happen again.

[AnonymousCoder]

...
What I care about is if someone sells me something or a product then I expect and demand that the service or product does as claimed.
If not then that person or company has an obligation to prove it does what It says it does or to instruct the purchaser on the correct use of that service or product.
MA does nothing to rectify, prove otherwise nor instruct his subscribers in any way shape or form.
...

Thanks for putting the Socrates quality of service into the right focus. The disclaimer on the Socrates home page is no excuse for the extreme failures I had to deal with. That is not acceptable for a product that is charged for at zero discount.

There is so much disrespect of the users. There is no road map, no list of open issues, no release schedule. There is simply no parallel in the software market / industry for the lack of everything. The word sub-standard would already be aiming too high because it would imply that some kind of measurement of this contraption was even possible with respect to any standard.

So when I look at what is being delivered, and what was delivered during the previous version of Socrates, then my conclusion inevitably is that Martin Armstrong suffers from delusion of grandeur while at the same time being incompetent in the field of basic software development and ignorant of the minimum requirements of any deliverable that he is charging for. Conclusion and recommendation: Don't touch Martin Armstrong's products, whatever they may be.

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain