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May 07, 2022, 02:51:46 PM
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May be that is the way ICC is planning to introduce Cricket in a big way to the US fans. It is not even a popular sport in the US but they might be having some kind of plans to attract the fans. They get the media attention if the tournament is conducted and major news network will be airing them, other than that the gate will be empty and the ICC might be planning that they get the required number with broadcasting rights.

In usa there is huge number of migrants from South Asia and they made up mostly of the USA national team. In most of countries native people are not much interested in cricket but only migrants from South Asia are take example of UAE, Oman, Germany, Canada. ICC need to do some serious efforts to promote people among native.

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May 07, 2022, 10:30:56 PM
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In usa there is huge number of migrants from South Asia and they made up mostly of the USA national team. In most of countries native people are not much interested in cricket but only migrants from South Asia are take example of UAE, Oman, Germany, Canada. ICC need to do some serious efforts to promote people among native.
You are aware that majority of the countries you mentioned are not taking the sport of Cricket seriously and their teams are made up of expats. So how do you think the ICC will promote the sport among natives, what is your opinion, if the local government or governing body cannot peak interest to their nationals how on earth does ICC peak their interest to come play the sport they are least interested  Roll Eyes Huh.
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May be that is the way ICC is planning to introduce Cricket in a big way to the US fans. It is not even a popular sport in the US but they might be having some kind of plans to attract the fans. They get the media attention if the tournament is conducted and major news network will be airing them, other than that the gate will be empty and the ICC might be planning that they get the required number with broadcasting rights.

In usa there is huge number of migrants from South Asia and they made up mostly of the USA national team. In most of countries native people are not much interested in cricket but only migrants from South Asia are take example of UAE, Oman, Germany, Canada. ICC need to do some serious efforts to promote people among native.
It looks like people from the south asia are dominating the cricket around the world countries. Cricket as a sport isn't much recognised in the western nations, other than the few countries. This is the reason why Asian players are found much on the new teams. We can't say local natives weren't there. Every team have got good number of natives and rest were from the Asian parts.

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May 08, 2022, 02:40:58 AM
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Cricket was part of Asian Games in 2010 and 2014, but was scrapped in 2018. This time the sport was included once more, but now we need to wait until 2023. As usual, the BCCI has refused to send teams to multi-sports events such as Asian Games. Back in 2010, Bangladesh and Pakistan won the gold medals and in 2014 it was Pakistan and Sri Lanka.
Also, I learnt that the BCCI had banned the women's players from taking part in the ongoing Fairbreak Invitational Tournament. Players from all around the world are taking part in this tournament and the Indian players are the only exception. Anyway, no one actually cares. I watched one of the matches yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it.

I don't understand why BCCI has to do something like this every time.  do they feel like they are something premium that should be unlocked with money? 

Otherwise, I don't see the reason why cricket should be restricted from the people that want to enjoy it. This will surely be a bad decision for the women's cricket of India and as far as I know, they are not doing very well right now so with a good amount of playing time they would have done really great.a

LOL.... try explaining this to the BCCI. All they care is about the money. Have you ever wondered why we don't have a WIPL yet, although other boards have long established women's leagues such as WBBL and WHundred? The opposition from BCCI was the reason why last time the Olympic inclusion plan was scrapped. I have never seen such behavior in any other sports. Brazil and France dominates football and USA dominates basketball. But I have never seen them misusing their power and influence as much as the BCCI do.

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LOL.... try explaining this to the BCCI. All they care is about the money. Have you ever wondered why we don't have a WIPL yet, although other boards have long established women's leagues such as WBBL and WHundred? The opposition from BCCI was the reason why last time the Olympic inclusion plan was scrapped. I have never seen such behavior in any other sports. Brazil and France dominates football and USA dominates basketball. But I have never seen them misusing their power and influence as much as the BCCI do.
I really don't care much about if they are participating in Asian Games or not because it's directly related to commercial interest and ridiculous messy schedule.

But i'm really pissed at BCCI for not starting WIPL. These girls deserve this and most importantly Women cricket deserve WIPL. Although pressure is building up on BCCI regarding WIPL and they can't deny this for long so i'm expecting some positive news with in year. 

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May 08, 2022, 07:49:53 AM
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LOL.... try explaining this to the BCCI. All they care is about the money. Have you ever wondered why we don't have a WIPL yet, although other boards have long established women's leagues such as WBBL and WHundred? The opposition from BCCI was the reason why last time the Olympic inclusion plan was scrapped. I have never seen such behavior in any other sports. Brazil and France dominates football and USA dominates basketball. But I have never seen them misusing their power and influence as much as the BCCI do.

That's because if France of Brazil even quit football, fifa has lot many quality teams to run the football affairs. But in case of cricket it's not the case, as cricket is mostly dependent on India. BCCI is the reason why we have so much money in cricket right now in the form of IPL. BCCI is doing good for cricket but at the same time they are dictating there own terms and conditions to ICC.
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It looks like people from the south asia are dominating the cricket around the world countries. Cricket as a sport isn't much recognised in the western nations, other than the few countries. This is the reason why Asian players are found much on the new teams. We can't say local natives weren't there. Every team have got good number of natives and rest were from the Asian parts.

We can say more players were of south Asian origin then native in associate teams. Even we can see players of south Asian origin in teams of Australia, South Africa and England. The UK 100 years of rule here in south asia has promoted cricket so much here that its now impossible to think about cricket without south asia.

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May 08, 2022, 10:09:29 AM
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LOL.... try explaining this to the BCCI. All they care is about the money. Have you ever wondered why we don't have a WIPL yet, although other boards have long established women's leagues such as WBBL and WHundred? The opposition from BCCI was the reason why last time the Olympic inclusion plan was scrapped. I have never seen such behavior in any other sports. Brazil and France dominates football and USA dominates basketball. But I have never seen them misusing their power and influence as much as the BCCI do.
Obviously, the only reason  BCCI does not have a well-established women's cricketing situation in India just because they are not quite sure that they will get good enough revenue out of it and that's why they are not willing to take that risk right now. It is absolutely true that in other sports which our country place will never seem to dominate and misuse their power like this



I really don't care much about if they are participating in Asian Games or not because it's directly related to commercial interest and ridiculous messy schedule.

But i'm really pissed at BCCI for not starting WIPL. These girls deserve this and most importantly Women cricket deserve WIPL. Although pressure is building up on BCCI regarding WIPL and they can't deny this for long so i'm expecting some positive news with in year. 
Well, we all should care about cricket being a part of the Asian Games otherwise cricket is not going to prosper in the long run and cricket should also be made a part of the Olympics very soon. Otherwise, we will be stuck with watching the cricket world cup only for teams for a long time. because we all know that there are only 4 or 5 teams that actually can win the cricket World Cup.

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That's because if France of Brazil even quit football, fifa has lot many quality teams to run the football affairs. But in case of cricket it's not the case, as cricket is mostly dependent on India. BCCI is the reason why we have so much money in cricket right now in the form of IPL. BCCI is doing good for cricket but at the same time they are dictating there own terms and conditions to ICC.
You cannot compare Football and Cricket. World Cup is the only major tournament in Football and club matches are really interesting while Cricket is not that big and only recently we are seeing franchise cricket.

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Well, we all should care about cricket being a part of the Asian Games otherwise cricket is not going to prosper in the long run and cricket should also be made a part of the Olympics very soon. Otherwise, we will be stuck with watching the cricket world cup only for teams for a long time. because we all know that there are only 4 or 5 teams that actually can win the cricket World Cup.
Including Cricket in the Olympics would encourage people to take up cricket so that they can go to the Olympics and certain countries would fund them to find the talents and that is the best thing the ICC can do right now. You need the help of the government and the sports body to identify talents and ICC alone cannot do anything.
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May 08, 2022, 10:40:43 AM
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Including Cricket in the Olympics would encourage people to take up cricket so that they can go to the Olympics and certain countries would fund them to find the talents and that is the best thing the ICC can do right now. You need the help of the government and the sports body to identify talents and ICC alone cannot do anything.

Cricket journey for being part of olympics is still not coming to end atleast in 2028, "Cricket is already on the back foot having recently been excluded from the provisional list of 28 sports for the 2028 Games, an apparent blow for inclusion into the Olympics for the first time since 1900." espncricinfo
Governments of test teams are already doing good enough for cricket, ICC role should be to promote cricket to countries where cricket is not yet introduced.

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May 08, 2022, 11:44:11 AM
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I really don't care much about if they are participating in Asian Games or not because it's directly related to commercial interest and ridiculous messy schedule.

But i'm really pissed at BCCI for not starting WIPL. These girls deserve this and most importantly Women cricket deserve WIPL. Although pressure is building up on BCCI regarding WIPL and they can't deny this for long so i'm expecting some positive news with in year. 
Well, we all should care about cricket being a part of the Asian Games otherwise cricket is not going to prosper in the long run and cricket should also be made a part of the Olympics very soon. Otherwise, we will be stuck with watching the cricket world cup only for teams for a long time. because we all know that there are only 4 or 5 teams that actually can win the cricket World Cup.
We should be practical on all our efforts IMO.

We have 1 ICC tournament every year + 3-5 bilateral Test series every year + Countless random T-20 bilateral series + Asia Cup every 2 years + 2 Month IPL every year. This is jam pack schedule. BTW Asia cup is pending since 2018.

Potential solution would be cricket inclusion in the Olympics but with age restrictions (under 23) similar to football or ICC should add 6-10 more teams in the WC. 

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May 08, 2022, 11:48:05 AM
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I really don't understand why ICC is comfortable with the current situation of cricket because no one else seems to be. I  know that countries like England, Australia, and others are really interested in cricket but if somehow India loses its interest in cricket that will be a huge problem for ICC. They really need to be a lot more teams playing cricket.
ICC is waiting for some full fledge disaster.

They might wake up from their sleep when BCCI expand IPL into 12 or 16 team tournament in next decade or so, that means 4-6 months or more fixed for T-20 league only (atleast for Indian players). Other countries would follow the same with their respective league.

First casualty will be Test cricket, followed by ODI WC. 

Yes, I actually think that could happen because the way cricket is moving forward and the way T-20 is gaining popularity it is very possible to happen. and at that time ICC will not be able to do anything because no one is going to listen to them and the top boards will not need to listen to the ICC because they will have their own money to run everything. the smaller cricket boards will surely suffer because they actually depend quite heavily on the money that they get from the ICC.


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May 08, 2022, 11:52:55 AM
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May be that is the way ICC is planning to introduce Cricket in a big way to the US fans. It is not even a popular sport in the US but they might be having some kind of plans to attract the fans. They get the media attention if the tournament is conducted and major news network will be airing them, other than that the gate will be empty and the ICC might be planning that they get the required number with broadcasting rights.

In usa there is huge number of migrants from South Asia and they made up mostly of the USA national team. In most of countries native people are not much interested in cricket but only migrants from South Asia are take example of UAE, Oman, Germany, Canada. ICC need to do some serious efforts to promote people among native.
It looks like people from the south asia are dominating the cricket around the world countries. Cricket as a sport isn't much recognised in the western nations, other than the few countries. This is the reason why Asian players are found much on the new teams. We can't say local natives weren't there. Every team have got good number of natives and rest were from the Asian parts.

I think the actual problem is that South Asian people grow up watching and playing cricket from a very young age and that is obviously not the case in a lot of Western countries.

Here, most of us are very interested in NBA and football. and most of those games are there really cheap to play and can be played anywhere in any weather or need a very little space to play and very few amounts of people.

But cricket needs a lot more than that, the weather also needs to be right for the cricket stump and that is a big reason why cricket is not popular in certain countries in certain geographical positions.

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May 08, 2022, 02:08:20 PM
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I really don't care much about if they are participating in Asian Games or not because it's directly related to commercial interest and ridiculous messy schedule.
But i'm really pissed at BCCI for not starting WIPL. These girls deserve this and most importantly Women cricket deserve WIPL. Although pressure is building up on BCCI regarding WIPL and they can't deny this for long so i'm expecting some positive news with in year. 
Well, we all should care about cricket being a part of the Asian Games otherwise cricket is not going to prosper in the long run and cricket should also be made a part of the Olympics very soon. Otherwise, we will be stuck with watching the cricket world cup only for teams for a long time. because we all know that there are only 4 or 5 teams that actually can win the cricket World Cup.
We should be practical on all our efforts IMO.
We have 1 ICC tournament every year + 3-5 bilateral Test series every year + Countless random T-20 bilateral series + Asia Cup every 2 years + 2 Month IPL every year. This is jam pack schedule. BTW Asia cup is pending since 2018.
Potential solution would be cricket inclusion in the Olympics but with age restrictions (under 23) similar to football or ICC should add 6-10 more teams in the WC. 

Yes, I agree and I think ICC should think about the smaller teams and make cricket a lot more interesting to them than it is right now.
If any work in bringing in the new teams don't work out I don't think cricket is going to be in a good spot in the long run.

Cricket needs to have influence all over the world because cricket only being played in the subcontinent or in some certain countries is obviously not going to draw interest from the other countries that are not too much interested in cricket right now.



Including Cricket in the Olympics would encourage people to take up cricket so that they can go to the Olympics and certain countries would fund them to find the talents and that is the best thing the ICC can do right now. You need the help of the government and the sports body to identify talents and ICC alone cannot do anything.

Yes, that can certainly increase the number of countries that plays cricket, and also it is surely going to boost the popularity of cricket.
To be honest it should have been done a long time ago and people are actually really obvious that ICC doesn't have too much headache about this.

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May 08, 2022, 02:28:21 PM
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We should be practical on all our efforts IMO.

We have 1 ICC tournament every year + 3-5 bilateral Test series every year + Countless random T-20 bilateral series + Asia Cup every 2 years + 2 Month IPL every year. This is jam pack schedule. BTW Asia cup is pending since 2018.

Potential solution would be cricket inclusion in the Olympics but with age restrictions (under 23) similar to football or ICC should add 6-10 more teams in the WC. 

The reason why I am in favor of cricket's inclusion in Olympics is because being an Olympic sport would mean that countries such as China and Russia will allot more government funds to local cricket bodies. Right now, lower ranking (i.e those with native players) associate nations receive around $10,000 in annual funds from the ICC. The availability of funds can increase by 20x or 40x, if cricket becomes an Olympic sport. And I don't have any issue if Olympic cricket becomes a U-23 tournament. Even U-19 is fine with me.

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May 08, 2022, 06:09:20 PM
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I really don't understand why ICC is comfortable with the current situation of cricket because no one else seems to be. I  know that countries like England, Australia, and others are really interested in cricket but if somehow India loses its interest in cricket that will be a huge problem for ICC. They really need to be a lot more teams playing cricket.
ICC is waiting for some full fledge disaster.

They might wake up from their sleep when BCCI expand IPL into 12 or 16 team tournament in next decade or so, that means 4-6 months or more fixed for T-20 league only (atleast for Indian players). Other countries would follow the same with their respective league.

First casualty will be Test cricket, followed by ODI WC. 
In the case of IPL expedition may be you are right, but surely this is not easy for BCCI because going through on a cricket league for more than four to six months is never been easy task, and they can lose many foreign players even this is not going to hurt them but still it is good for local Indian players with this we will have some revolutionary changes and many other boards will also try their best for survive, and they will introduce their own long leagues which could be ended in system like soccer, and I am having feeling for this for many years because now this is unstoppable.

And with this ODI is going to face the biggest threat instead of test then after this we can talk about test but for me this is still having some charm to survive but ODI will completely lose, and we will have only T20 world cup for national teams and biggest countries are going to play some test matches as well.

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May 08, 2022, 06:46:23 PM
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The reason why I am in favor of cricket's inclusion in Olympics is because being an Olympic sport would mean that countries such as China and Russia will allot more government funds to local cricket bodies. Right now, lower ranking (i.e those with native players) associate nations receive around $10,000 in annual funds from the ICC. The availability of funds can increase by 20x or 40x, if cricket becomes an Olympic sport. And I don't have any issue if Olympic cricket becomes a U-23 tournament. Even U-19 is fine with me.

BCCI don't want big powers like China to join in since that will take authority away from bcci. Cricket is decade old game and till date it's not included in Olympics nor there are any chances of its inclusion. We have to admit that cricket as a sports failed to fine its way outside South Asia and few other countries.

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BCCI don't want big powers like China to join in since that will take authority away from bcci. Cricket is decade old game and till date it's not included in Olympics nor there are any chances of its inclusion. We have to admit that cricket as a sports failed to fine its way outside South Asia and few other countries.
China does have a Cricket team but they do not give too much emphasis as they do not have a competitive team even though they won some matches against other Associate countries and they even participated in the 2010 Asian Games and they will be participating in the upcoming Asian Games which will be conducted this year and they do have T20 International status.

So i would like to know which invisible power you are talking about  Tongue.
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BCCI don't want big powers like China to join in since that will take authority away from bcci. Cricket is decade old game and till date it's not included in Olympics nor there are any chances of its inclusion. We have to admit that cricket as a sports failed to fine its way outside South Asia and few other countries.

A decade or so ago, actually the IOC (International Olympic Committee) contacted the ICC to check the possibility of including cricket in the Olympics. Back then ICC-BCCI was being governed by the Sharad Pawar-N Srinivasan mafia and they quickly rejected the proposal. IOC had plans to include cricket from the 2020 Olympics onward (which was actually postponed to 2021). Only when Srinivasan was replaced by Shashank Manohar, the ICC again made attempts to get cricket included as an Olympic sport.

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BCCI don't want big powers like China to join in since that will take authority away from bcci. Cricket is decade old game and till date it's not included in Olympics nor there are any chances of its inclusion. We have to admit that cricket as a sports failed to fine its way outside South Asia and few other countries.
China does have a Cricket team but they do not give too much emphasis as they do not have a competitive team even though they won some matches against other Associate countries and they even participated in the 2010 Asian Games and they will be participating in the upcoming Asian Games which will be conducted this year and they do have T20 International status.

So i would like to know which invisible power you are talking about  Tongue.
It's hard to understand why super powers do not have cricket teams?  Grin
And now America Hosting World Cup- this is rather unbelievable too that they do have a cricket team either. Most of these countries are in to athletics and football , which are rich sports

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