Cricket match prediction discussions

[Tony116]

That's the point that politician forcefully do everything which are good for them or in other words we can say that they select all those who help them support them in corruption. Same things occure in Pakistan, ln my view ramiz raja are one of the best Chairman of PCB, as a cricker he has knowledge that which is best for Pakistan cricket to grow and due to his best decision the cricket grow in shape of performance in previous world , Asia Cup as well as recent World Cup. While on the other side najam sethi didn't have knowledge of cricket like ramiz but he got selected and the reason is that he will support corrupt leader in Thier corruption

Earlier this was much experienced with India, and now the same trend is getting around with rest of the Asian countries. Cricketing knowledge is a must to know the needs of the cricketers. Now the cricket boards were under the control of politicians and their kids. This will complete ruin the true spirit over sports.

Who cares about things in subcontinent because we have culture like this mostly ruling parties are having influence few years back they were doing for their own party members now they are bringing their kids with alternative ways like we have Jay Shah who is currently controlling the BCCI and no one can challenge him because now it's multi-billion game in India specially after having 10 team in IPL and having more control in ICC.
In Pakistan, it's completely different because Pakistan is much behind in many ways even right now they are not near the Bangladesh which is currently Asian tiger in development and Pakistan is near the default problem but still they are breaking developments in PCB as well which will surely hurt the team performance as well I am feeling sad how they bring person like Najam Sethi as the chairman is worst for the PCB and cricket.

All the problems in Pakistan started with Imran Khan having problems with American politicians. Imran Khan has said that America told him if he does not give up his position as the political leader of Pakistan it will have consequences. And that's when all the problems started for Pakistan. I am not saying that Pakistan had a very good setup for cricket before this. But Pakistan was doing better at that time. But after Imran Khan got stripped of his power things started declining for Pakistan and that is also currently impacting the cricket of Pakistan right now.

[jaberwock]

today I read a post where Dinash Kaneria - a banned pakistani cricketer was making fun of Shahid Afridi - People are not happy on Namaj Sethi and Shahid Afridi being added to selection committee. But there are some people who are liking their decisions. One person comes and make some changes the other person comes and destroys it. what are your thoughts on Najam sethi being Chairman PCB

Now not only banned cricketers many others are also laughing on these movements and things which are happening in Pakistan because mostly feeling Pakistan is just a joke, and they are going down day by day not in politics with financial and many other facts are also creating problems for common peoples and those are love to work on merit because right now no human rights and other policies are working just powerful peoples are hijacking all system.

As example few days back a 15 years girl killed a labour and police not able to arrest her as his father is army colonel, so now you can imagine how things are going here in this jungle of Pakistan now they not only sacked Ramiz Raja they also terminate all rules and constitution of PCB mean every one want to work with his own rules and power its very simple thing happening right now.

[laurenB7742]

At present, democracy is limited to paper only. The countries in Asia that talk more about democracy are less democratic. Politics is now not only in a specific situation. Politics today is not only rooted in every level of basic human needs. Now it has a tight control over the hub of human entertainment. Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are all countries whose cricket boards are completely controlled by politicians. That's not a problem either. But in a democratic country, when any decision is taken ignoring the people, there will be room for criticism.

It's not all about democracy it's all about system which is more important as we have in developed countries and in many other countries those are not near the democracy but going with strong system here in subcontinent culture is completely handled by few groups which are doing wrong things and holding major stakes which is giving them all power, and they are not bringing system or merit policies which are important, and we have only three cricket boards with strong system and fair policy ECB, CA and CNZ they are having the best things for their players and peoples.

All other boards and sports organizations are suffering badly due to ethical and political systems, and they are suffering into game as well because recently we have big dropped in South African quality with Sri Lanka is also suffering badly due to poor system West Indies is already near the end due to personal issues and having not merit policy and going with quota system.

We think everything should be picture-perfect but at the same time, we are the ones selecting the corrupt officials and giving them power. And right now the problem has become big because there are no actually good politicians. All of them are corrupt in some way or another. And we have to make a choice between worse and worst.

We have corrupt officials and corrupt people in power and that is why everything is failing right now. I would also say that correct politicians are the reason why many Asian countries are failing as a society. The people who are in charge of the cricket boards in countries in Asia are also corrupt. So how can a team improve under the authority of corrupt personnel who going to think about themselves most of the time?

[BobK71]

At present, democracy is limited to paper only. The countries in Asia that talk more about democracy are less democratic. Politics is now not only in a specific situation. Politics today is not only rooted in every level of basic human needs. Now it has a tight control over the hub of human entertainment. Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are all countries whose cricket boards are completely controlled by politicians. That's not a problem either. But in a democratic country, when any decision is taken ignoring the people, there will be room for criticism.

It's not all about democracy it's all about system which is more important as we have in developed countries and in many other countries those are not near the democracy but going with strong system here in subcontinent culture is completely handled by few groups which are doing wrong things and holding major stakes which is giving them all power, and they are not bringing system or merit policies which are important, and we have only three cricket boards with strong system and fair policy ECB, CA and CNZ they are having the best things for their players and peoples.

All other boards and sports organizations are suffering badly due to ethical and political systems, and they are suffering into game as well because recently we have big dropped in South African quality with Sri Lanka is also suffering badly due to poor system West Indies is already near the end due to personal issues and having not merit policy and going with quota system.

We think everything should be picture-perfect but at the same time, we are the ones selecting the corrupt officials and giving them power. And right now the problem has become big because there are no actually good politicians. All of them are corrupt in some way or another. And we have to make a choice between worse and worst.

We have corrupt officials and corrupt people in power and that is why everything is failing right now. I would also say that correct politicians are the reason why many Asian countries are failing as a society. The people who are in charge of the cricket boards in countries in Asia are also corrupt. So how can a team improve under the authority of corrupt personnel who going to think about themselves most of the time?

When higher level officials are engaged in corruption, the effect is greater at lower levels. If the government of the country resort to corruption to come to power then nothing but corruption can be expected. How to keep an institution good if those who are in charge of the government are corrupt? Does anyone have an answer to this? Almost the same situation has emerged in every country, now nothing can be done except corruption. But if it can be reduced a little, it will give some comfort to everyone. However, with the change of days, the level of corruption will increase rather than decrease. No matter who is in charge of the board in cricket, cricket will remain full of corruption and will continue to do so for ages.

[Sithara007]

today I read a post where Dinash Kaneria - a banned pakistani cricketer was making fun of Shahid Afridi - People are not happy on Namaj Sethi and Shahid Afridi being added to selection committee. But there are some people who are liking their decisions. One person comes and make some changes the other person comes and destroys it. what are your thoughts on Najam sethi being Chairman PCB

I haven't read the post from Danish Kaneria. But with every passing day I am getting more and more skeptical about Najam Sethi. He was the chairman of PCB on two previous occasions (2013-2014, 2017-2018). On both occasions, he was appointed by Nawaz Sharif when Mamnoon Hussain was the president. And now Shehbaz Sharif has nominated him to the post for the 3rd time. He seems to be very close to the Sharif family. But apart from his closeness to the politicians, there is hardly anything worthwhile to talk about him. I just hope that all the hard work put in by Rambo doesn't get destroyed by Sethi. 

[Juggy777]

today I read a post where Dinash Kaneria - a banned pakistani cricketer was making fun of Shahid Afridi - People are not happy on Namaj Sethi and Shahid Afridi being added to selection committee. But there are some people who are liking their decisions. One person comes and make some changes the other person comes and destroys it. what are your thoughts on Najam sethi being Chairman PCB

I haven't read the post from Danish Kaneria. But with every passing day I am getting more and more skeptical about Najam Sethi. He was the chairman of PCB on two previous occasions (2013-2014, 2017-2018). On both occasions, he was appointed by Nawaz Sharif when Mamnoon Hussain was the president. And now Shehbaz Sharif has nominated him to the post for the 3rd time. He seems to be very close to the Sharif family. But apart from his closeness to the politicians, there is hardly anything worthwhile to talk about him. I just hope that all the hard work put in by Rambo doesn't get destroyed by Sethi. 

@Sithara007 I did see that post but to be honest this is Afridi’s moment to prove his critics wrong, but will he able to prove them wrong is something none of us can predict till he’s actually given some time in this new role of his.

Furthermore in my personal opinion Sethi starts with a clean chit, because the situation is totally different now and Pakistan cricket can grow a lot with the right support hence he’ll be foolish to do anything that can jeopardise their growth.

[Sithara007]

@Sithara007 I did see that post but to be honest this is Afridi’s moment to prove his critics wrong, but will he able to prove them wrong is something none of us can predict till he’s actually given some time in this new role of his.

Furthermore in my personal opinion Sethi starts with a clean chit, because the situation is totally different now and Pakistan cricket can grow a lot with the right support hence he’ll be foolish to do anything that can jeopardise their growth.

Well.. let's hope for the best. During his term, Rameez did a lot of good things. He resolved the issues between PSL franchise owners and PCB, convinced SENA nations to tour Pakistan, and started new franchise leagues such as PJL and WPSL. And more importantly he changed the format of domestic cricket as well. Najam Sethi doesn't need to do anything new. All the needs to do is to preserve the status quo. PCB achieved historic revenues under Rameez. Sethi needs to ensure that the revenue inflows continue and players (both national and domestic) benefit from it.

[mm2543363580]

@Sithara007 I did see that post but to be honest this is Afridi’s moment to prove his critics wrong, but will he able to prove them wrong is something none of us can predict till he’s actually given some time in this new role of his.

Furthermore in my personal opinion Sethi starts with a clean chit, because the situation is totally different now and Pakistan cricket can grow a lot with the right support hence he’ll be foolish to do anything that can jeopardise their growth.

Well.. let's hope for the best. During his term, Rameez did a lot of good things. He resolved the issues between PSL franchise owners and PCB, convinced SENA nations to tour Pakistan, and started new franchise leagues such as PJL and WPSL. And more importantly he changed the format of domestic cricket as well. Najam Sethi doesn't need to do anything new. All the needs to do is to preserve the status quo. PCB achieved historic revenues under Rameez. Sethi needs to ensure that the revenue inflows continue and players (both national and domestic) benefit from it.

Ramiz Raja was the best person for Pakistan cricket team and PCB  and he had done soo much during his short tenure for the establishment and growth of pskdPakistani cricket but there was one thing with him that brought him to this point that he was short tempered and he doesn't go politically at all. He gave daring statements on World Cup and ICC which was a problem for Pakistan cricket in long run.
So now whatever he has started and initiated will be leas by Najam Sethi hopefully in good dimensions.

[ZAINmalik75]

today I read a post where Dinash Kaneria - a banned pakistani cricketer was making fun of Shahid Afridi - People are not happy on Namaj Sethi and Shahid Afridi being added to selection committee.

I think Danish kaneria are is list of those who earn money by criticizing player and Management. He was fixer at his career time so I think his comment has no value for anyone. Everyone agree that it's bad decision of Pakistan government to remove ramiz and bring najam sethi the corrupt man ever. But now I am happy by his disicion of giving a spot of chief selector to Boom Boom Afridi, Shahid Afridi are the player who always perform in big stages for Pakistan and do more than his best and now as a chief selector his first decision of bringing back sarfaz ahmad also worth for Pakistan, so he will be helpful for Pakistan.

[Naficopa]

today I read a post where Dinash Kaneria - a banned pakistani cricketer was making fun of Shahid Afridi - People are not happy on Namaj Sethi and Shahid Afridi being added to selection committee.

I think Danish kaneria are is list of those who earn money by criticizing player and Management. He was fixer at his career time so I think his comment has no value for anyone. Everyone agree that it's bad decision of Pakistan government to remove ramiz and bring najam sethi the corrupt man ever. But now I am happy by his disicion of giving a spot of chief selector to Boom Boom Afridi, Shahid Afridi are the player who always perform in big stages for Pakistan and do more than his best and now as a chief selector his first decision of bringing back sarfaz ahmad also worth for Pakistan, so he will be helpful for Pakistan.

No one can doubt and question the credibility of Shahid Afridi , he has contributed alot to Pakistani cricket and his experience is accurate for chief selector as he knows cricketers in detail and thier good and bad points  . He is somehow part of cricket till now either its psl or tournaments he knows many things . He as a selector will chose what's best for Pakistan.
People are basically criticising him for his inclination and favour towards current government of Pakistan .

[wiss19]

I think Danish kaneria are is list of those who earn money by criticizing player and Management. He was fixer at his career time so I think his comment has no value for anyone. Everyone agree that it's bad decision of Pakistan government to remove ramiz and bring najam sethi the corrupt man ever. But now I am happy by his disicion of giving a spot of chief selector to Boom Boom Afridi, Shahid Afridi are the player who always perform in big stages for Pakistan and do more than his best and now as a chief selector his first decision of bringing back sarfaz ahmad also worth for Pakistan, so he will be helpful for Pakistan.

Even I have no soft feelings for the Dinesh Kaneria because of his involvement in spot fixing and having money for not doing his best during matches which is never been ideal thing for any sports person but still I have feeling giving spot to Shahid Afridi as Chief Selector has never been ideal because right now Pakistan had better cricketers for this spot like Younis Khan, Misbah ul Haq and many more those understand all things much better than Shahid Afridi because this is completely political posting instead of having any merit or any better thing.

But, as we all know how things working in Pakistan in last few years all is possible and talking too much about this all is completely useless because they have never been ideal or having world-class things just few players those can perform good for their few good successes in past is enough for them to cheer.

[justdimin]

@Sithara007 I did see that post but to be honest this is Afridi’s moment to prove his critics wrong, but will he able to prove them wrong is something none of us can predict till he’s actually given some time in this new role of his.

Furthermore in my personal opinion Sethi starts with a clean chit, because the situation is totally different now and Pakistan cricket can grow a lot with the right support hence he’ll be foolish to do anything that can jeopardise their growth.

Well.. let's hope for the best. During his term, Rameez did a lot of good things. He resolved the issues between PSL franchise owners and PCB, convinced SENA nations to tour Pakistan, and started new franchise leagues such as PJL and WPSL. And more importantly he changed the format of domestic cricket as well. Najam Sethi doesn't need to do anything new. All the needs to do is to preserve the status quo. PCB achieved historic revenues under Rameez. Sethi needs to ensure that the revenue inflows continue and players (both national and domestic) benefit from it.

Right now, main problem is why they are doing this all while things looking good for the cricket in Pakistan then why this all happening if they want to bring Naham Sethi they can wait for some time and then as his tenure ends then Shahbaz Sharif can bring his person as President of the PCB but now doing these all tactics mean they want to destroy all development and bring back PCB as lower point which surely going to help many other boards which never been happy about PCB and Pakistan going at his best in cricket.

Especially I was reading main problem was Ramiz Raja's statement about not sending his team to India because every time Pakistan has Nawaz Sharif or his family in control they want better relationship with India and others are not happy with this all which is the main reason behind this all quick change.

[Sithara007]

Right now, main problem is why they are doing this all while things looking good for the cricket in Pakistan then why this all happening if they want to bring Naham Sethi they can wait for some time and then as his tenure ends then Shahbaz Sharif can bring his person as President of the PCB but now doing these all tactics mean they want to destroy all development and bring back PCB as lower point which surely going to help many other boards which never been happy about PCB and Pakistan going at his best in cricket.

Especially I was reading main problem was Ramiz Raja's statement about not sending his team to India because every time Pakistan has Nawaz Sharif or his family in control they want better relationship with India and others are not happy with this all which is the main reason behind this all quick change.

I still believe that it is possible to reach a deal between the PCB and the BCCI, which will guarantee India's participation in the Asia Cup and Pakistan's participation in the 2023 ODI World Cup. All this controversy was started by Jay Shah (now the Secretary of Board of Control for Cricket in India), as he wanted to divert attention from the sacking of Ganguly. With Ganguly long gone, now there is no need for Shah to indulge in more drama. If needed, the Shahbaz Sharif regime can set up talks with the Narendra Modi government in India to resolve this issue.

[CryptoYar]

Especially I was reading main problem was Ramiz Raja's statement about not sending his team to India.

Nope, that's not true.

A senior politician of the current government had hinted to remove Ramiz Raja in May.

Lemme quote that news for you.

Senior PML-N politician Rana Mashood has stated that the existing government will replace Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Chairman Ramiz Raja in a few weeks or as soon as other pressing issues are settled, local media reported today.

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While the statement regarding not sending pak team was given in November by Ramiz Raja.

[...]If the Indian team comes here then we will go for the World Cup. If they don't come then they can play the World Cup without us.[...]

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because every time Pakistan has Nawaz Sharif or his family in control they want better relationship with India [...]

Not only Nawaz Shareef. Whichever party comes to power in Pakistan, they want good relations with India. Imran Khan had also tried, he had said that if India would take 1 step toward friendship, then we would take 10 steps. However, the Indian government blew it up in the air.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

Right now, main problem is why they are doing this all while things looking good for the cricket in Pakistan then why this all happening if they want to bring Naham Sethi they can wait for some time and then as his tenure ends then Shahbaz Sharif can bring his person as President of the PCB but now doing these all tactics mean they want to destroy all development and bring back PCB as lower point which surely going to help many other boards which never been happy about PCB and Pakistan going at his best in cricket.

Especially I was reading main problem was Ramiz Raja's statement about not sending his team to India because every time Pakistan has Nawaz Sharif or his family in control they want better relationship with India and others are not happy with this all which is the main reason behind this all quick change.

I still believe that it is possible to reach a deal between the PCB and the BCCI, which will guarantee India's participation in the Asia Cup and Pakistan's participation in the 2023 ODI World Cup. All this controversy was started by Jay Shah (now the Secretary of Board of Control for Cricket in India), as he wanted to divert attention from the sacking of Ganguly. With Ganguly long gone, now there is no need for Shah to indulge in more drama. If needed, the Shahbaz Sharif regime can set up talks with the Narendra Modi government in India to resolve this issue.

Current government of Pakistan has good relations with India and they always wanted to have good and Beneficial ties with its neighbours.   Cricket brings people together so it's better this issue of Asia Cup and world cup is settled on friendly basis so Indians can come to Pakistan for playing and vice versa.

[Sithara007]

Current government of Pakistan has good relations with India and they always wanted to have good and Beneficial ties with its neighbours.   Cricket brings people together so it's better this issue of Asia Cup and world cup is settled on friendly basis so Indians can come to Pakistan for playing and vice versa.

I really hope that at some point in the future bilateral tours between India and Pakistan can happen. But the political mood is charged up right now and I don't think that there is any immediate possibility of that happening. The most viable scenario at this point is to get these two teams participate in the ICC and ACC tournaments. Both the teams participated in the Asia Cup 2022, and therefore I don't think that it should be a big issue for the BCCI to send it's team to Pakistan for the next edition. Hopefully the Indian government would agree to this suggestion.

[BobK71]

Right now, main problem is why they are doing this all while things looking good for the cricket in Pakistan then why this all happening if they want to bring Naham Sethi they can wait for some time and then as his tenure ends then Shahbaz Sharif can bring his person as President of the PCB but now doing these all tactics mean they want to destroy all development and bring back PCB as lower point which surely going to help many other boards which never been happy about PCB and Pakistan going at his best in cricket.

Especially I was reading main problem was Ramiz Raja's statement about not sending his team to India because every time Pakistan has Nawaz Sharif or his family in control they want better relationship with India and others are not happy with this all which is the main reason behind this all quick change.

I still believe that it is possible to reach a deal between the PCB and the BCCI, which will guarantee India's participation in the Asia Cup and Pakistan's participation in the 2023 ODI World Cup. All this controversy was started by Jay Shah (now the Secretary of Board of Control for Cricket in India), as he wanted to divert attention from the sacking of Ganguly. With Ganguly long gone, now there is no need for Shah to indulge in more drama. If needed, the Shahbaz Sharif regime can set up talks with the Narendra Modi government in India to resolve this issue.

Yes, if the board presidents of the two countries want it then it can be very simple. I think they should look into this matter. If these two big teams take decisions randomly in the international tournament, it will have a big negative impact not only on the country but also on cricket. And the big problem is that the relationship between the two countries needs to be improved. If no one comes forward, ICC should create such an environment. Without the participation of these two teams, no good tournament can be successfully executed.

[lixer]

Current government of Pakistan has good relations with India and they always wanted to have good and Beneficial ties with its neighbours.   Cricket brings people together so it's better this issue of Asia Cup and world cup is settled on friendly basis so Indians can come to Pakistan for playing and vice versa.

I really hope that at some point in the future bilateral tours between India and Pakistan can happen. But the political mood is charged up right now and I don't think that there is any immediate possibility of that happening. The most viable scenario at this point is to get these two teams participate in the ICC and ACC tournaments. Both the teams participated in the Asia Cup 2022, and therefore I don't think that it should be a big issue for the BCCI to send it's team to Pakistan for the next edition. Hopefully the Indian government would agree to this suggestion.

I also want we have positive development because if this happens then surely things can go into better way for the whole region, and we can bring revolutionary changes which will surely increase common person's life as well with many other sports can also go at the top of the world because I was reading we have nearly 50 top sporting leagues mostly are having few countries involved, and they are taking good profit just because of having good marketing and media rights which are increasing their quality as well so here just not cricket many other sports can also go good if they are able to solve issues on table instead of having threats and political statements which create more mess up in this all region.

ASEAN is also developing with few small countries are now having big market and increasing their domestic set up for the change with this now they are able to compete with China, Japan and other big countries of this region.

[laurenB7742]

Current government of Pakistan has good relations with India and they always wanted to have good and Beneficial ties with its neighbours.   Cricket brings people together so it's better this issue of Asia Cup and world cup is settled on friendly basis so Indians can come to Pakistan for playing and vice versa.

I really hope that at some point in the future bilateral tours between India and Pakistan can happen. But the political mood is charged up right now and I don't think that there is any immediate possibility of that happening. The most viable scenario at this point is to get these two teams participate in the ICC and ACC tournaments. Both the teams participated in the Asia Cup 2022, and therefore I don't think that it should be a big issue for the BCCI to send it's team to Pakistan for the next edition. Hopefully the Indian government would agree to this suggestion.

I also want we have positive development because if this happens then surely things can go into better way for the whole region, and we can bring revolutionary changes which will surely increase common person's life as well with many other sports can also go at the top of the world because I was reading we have nearly 50 top sporting leagues mostly are having few countries involved, and they are taking good profit just because of having good marketing and media rights which are increasing their quality as well so here just not cricket many other sports can also go good if they are able to solve issues on table instead of having threats and political statements which create more mess up in this all region.

ASEAN is also developing with few small countries are now having big market and increasing their domestic set up for the change with this now they are able to compete with China, Japan and other big countries of this region.

I don’t think Pakistan should approach any kind of bilateral series right now. Especially with today problems that are going on in Pakistan right now. They should fix the problem they are facing in the country, the political problems first. Because otherwise I truly believe that there will be some problems. The media is also not very much in favour of that. The media is always trying to make the news that is going to be interesting to the people, but not showing the truth.

Don’t get me wrong I obviously want to see Pakistan versus India bilateral series. But I don’t think this is the right time for them to do that.

Some smaller teams are trying to improve the situation of cricket in their country. I hope this improvement happened very quickly. That will be really great for cricket in the long run.

[Sithara007]

Taliban regime in Afghanistan has made their first big decision regarding cricket. Afghanistan will play their home matches in the United Arab Emirates from 2023 onwards. Previously India used to host their home matches (first the Greater Noida Sports Complex Ground, and then Atal Bihari Vajpayee Ekana Cricket Stadium in Lucknow). Emirates Cricket Board and the Afghanistan Cricket Board signed the deal earlier this month. And this is a big blow to the BCCI, who invested heavily on Afghanistan while ignoring other neighboring nations such as Nepal and Bhutan.