Cricket match prediction discussions

[JSRAW]

Today a very important ICC board meeting is scheduled. Multiple issues will come up for discussion today. The first topic is regarding allocation to various boards for the 2024-27 cycle. ICC revenues have increased by more than 3 times as a result of the auction of media rights, but this time the BCCI wants a lions share of the revenue. There is a high chance that no concrete decision will be taken on this topic today. Second topic is regarding the future of Afghanistan cricket board. Wisden published an article yesterday, arguing that ECB and CA should pull out of the ICC in case Afghanistan is not suspended.

https://wisden.com/stories/opinion/opinion-crickets-response-afghanistan-woeful-ecb-ca-withdraw-icc-protest

  

Tough situation for ACB as they are helpless against the Taliban and can't blame ICC or other boards if they kick them out or degrade their full membership status to associates. Rules are very clear in the book that you must have a Women's domestic setup, no matter what.

Would be better if ICC cut ACB's funding and allocate this particular amount to Afghan women's cricket, then these girls can make their base in another country. Afg Men's team did the same and had a home ground in India. This way ACB could avoid a ban.

[LDL]

Today a very important ICC board meeting is scheduled. Multiple issues will come up for discussion today. The first topic is regarding allocation to various boards for the 2024-27 cycle. ICC revenues have increased by more than 3 times as a result of the auction of media rights, but this time the BCCI wants a lions share of the revenue. There is a high chance that no concrete decision will be taken on this topic today. Second topic is regarding the future of Afghanistan cricket board. Wisden published an article yesterday, arguing that ECB and CA should pull out of the ICC in case Afghanistan is not suspended.

https://wisden.com/stories/opinion/opinion-crickets-response-afghanistan-woeful-ecb-ca-withdraw-icc-protest

 

After the Taliban seized power in 2021, Afghanistan's cricket scene underwent drastic changes, especially when they enacted various laws to eliminate the women's cricket team altogether. Although the Taliban cares a lot about women's rights, they will never support women's participation in cricket. The Taliban are religiously particular and do not support women's participation in cricket and other competitive sports, particularly in Islam. So the Taliban will never support the demands of other cricket organizations including the ICC if they want to run the state according to a fully Islamic way of life.

[Sithara007]

Tough situation for ACB as they are helpless against the Taliban and can't blame ICC or other boards if they kick them out or degrade their full membership status to associates. Rules are very clear in the book that you must have a Women's domestic setup, no matter what.

Would be better if ICC cut ACB's funding and allocate this particular amount to Afghan women's cricket, then these girls can make their base in another country. Afg Men's team did the same and had a home ground in India. This way ACB could avoid a ban.

Well.. this one looks like the most probable resolution to the issue. Zimbabwe was suspended for sometime and the funds frozen, after ICC found government intervention in day-to-day running of Zimbabwe cricket. Nepal also faced the same fate sometime back. Charges against Afghanistan are far more serious and may result in equal or more severe penalty from the ICC. One plus point for Afghanistan is that both the Indian government, as well as the BCCI have stood like a rock behind the Taliban regime, providing all the support they could. For ICC, it will be difficult to ignore the stance from the BCCI.

[fullhdpixel]

Tough situation for ACB as they are helpless against the Taliban and can't blame ICC or other boards if they kick them out or degrade their full membership status to associates. Rules are very clear in the book that you must have a Women's domestic setup, no matter what.

Would be better if ICC cut ACB's funding and allocate this particular amount to Afghan women's cricket, then these girls can make their base in another country. Afg Men's team did the same and had a home ground in India. This way ACB could avoid a ban.

Right now, situation is not favorable for the Afghanistan and most chances if big-4 have any tough decision then it's going to be implemented very quickly regarding ban them because most chances Taliban are not going to accept anything regarding women's sports because even they are trying to cut ties in education which is completely nonsense, but currently they are not listening which is not good for their team and its future.

If we have ban on Afghanistan team which is most likely going to happen then surely many players are going to lose their bright future in this game and most likely they will try to have joined Gulf region teams which are already accepting players from subcontinent, so this could be beneficial for them in terms of having good quality players.

[Sithara007]

Right now, situation is not favorable for the Afghanistan and most chances if big-4 have any tough decision then it's going to be implemented very quickly regarding ban them because most chances Taliban are not going to accept anything regarding women's sports because even they are trying to cut ties in education which is completely nonsense, but currently they are not listening which is not good for their team and its future.

If we have ban on Afghanistan team which is most likely going to happen then surely many players are going to lose their bright future in this game and most likely they will try to have joined Gulf region teams which are already accepting players from subcontinent, so this could be beneficial for them in terms of having good quality players.

First of all, there is no unity within the pig-4 regarding the Taliban issue. BCCI is a strong supporter of the ACB, because the current Indian government is a big backer of Taliban. On the other hand, ECB, CA and CNZ are strongly against Taliban after the latter committed human rights abuses and banned education for women (a stance that is approved by the respective governments in these countries). As per ICC rules, Afghanistan needs to be suspended, because they don't have a women's team. But then, if you leave the decision with the BCCI, then they may get a reprieve.

[BobK71]

Tough situation for ACB as they are helpless against the Taliban and can't blame ICC or other boards if they kick them out or degrade their full membership status to associates. Rules are very clear in the book that you must have a Women's domestic setup, no matter what.

Would be better if ICC cut ACB's funding and allocate this particular amount to Afghan women's cricket, then these girls can make their base in another country. Afg Men's team did the same and had a home ground in India. This way ACB could avoid a ban.

Right now, situation is not favorable for the Afghanistan and most chances if big-4 have any tough decision then it's going to be implemented very quickly regarding ban them because most chances Taliban are not going to accept anything regarding women's sports because even they are trying to cut ties in education which is completely nonsense, but currently they are not listening which is not good for their team and its future.

If we have ban on Afghanistan team which is most likely going to happen then surely many players are going to lose their bright future in this game and most likely they will try to have joined Gulf region teams which are already accepting players from subcontinent, so this could be beneficial for them in terms of having good quality players.

America has failed in its long efforts in the battle field to get rid of Taliban rule in Afghanistan. Although American troops have survived there for a long time, they have not been able to bring Afghanistan back to control. At that time they suffered huge losses financially as well as losing a lot of troops. As a result, a survey found that the amount of loss in America is very heavy and they are no longer willing to lose. And after knowing this, the Taliban government also strengthened their position. As a result, now the country will be run as they want. If they take any negative decisions in cricket then there is no other option but to say bad luck to the cricketers.

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Right now, situation is not favorable for the Afghanistan and most chances if big-4 have any tough decision then it's going to be implemented very quickly regarding ban them because most chances Taliban are not going to accept anything regarding women's sports because even they are trying to cut ties in education which is completely nonsense, but currently they are not listening which is not good for their team and its future.

If we have ban on Afghanistan team which is most likely going to happen then surely many players are going to lose their bright future in this game and most likely they will try to have joined Gulf region teams which are already accepting players from subcontinent, so this could be beneficial for them in terms of having good quality players.

First of all, there is no unity within the pig-4 regarding the Taliban issue. BCCI is a strong supporter of the ACB, because the current Indian government is a big backer of Taliban. On the other hand, ECB, CA and CNZ are strongly against Taliban after the latter committed human rights abuses and banned education for women (a stance that is approved by the respective governments in these countries). As per ICC rules, Afghanistan needs to be suspended, because they don't have a women's team. But then, if you leave the decision with the BCCI, then they may get a reprieve.

There is great potential in Afghanistan as far as cricket is concerned and its sad to see them getting kicked out just because of Taliban. 
The reality is in government of Taliban it is impossible to set up a women team as they are already cutting off women in all grounds and sects of society like education and job . So thinking of women cricket team is totally a fiction.  But that doesn't mean men cricket team should be punished because of that as they don't have any control over Taliban.

[Smack That Ace]

Right now, situation is not favorable for the Afghanistan and most chances if big-4 have any tough decision then it's going to be implemented very quickly regarding ban them because most chances Taliban are not going to accept anything regarding women's sports because even they are trying to cut ties in education which is completely nonsense, but currently they are not listening which is not good for their team and its future.
If we have ban on Afghanistan team which is most likely going to happen then surely many players are going to lose their bright future in this game and most likely they will try to have joined Gulf region teams which are already accepting players from subcontinent, so this could be beneficial for them in terms of having good quality players.

First of all, there is no unity within the pig-4 regarding the Taliban issue. BCCI is a strong supporter of the ACB, because the current Indian government is a big backer of Taliban. On the other hand, ECB, CA and CNZ are strongly against Taliban after the latter committed human rights abuses and banned education for women (a stance that is approved by the respective governments in these countries). As per ICC rules, Afghanistan needs to be suspended, because they don't have a women's team. But then, if you leave the decision with the BCCI, then they may get a reprieve.

I do not understand why the cricket boards and countries are sanctioning the Taliban. Because those countries have a lot of feminists saying that they can do whatever they want and whatever a man can do. Just get them to remove the Talibans, get them to fight against the Talibans, and make them use their feminist revolution to get the Afghani women to go to school.

I just find it really surprising, and also dumb because I understand that they are trying to talk about women's rights. But the women in Afghanistan are far happier compared to the women in Australia, New Zealand, or other first-world countries.

Duke Khan

[eaLiTy]

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America has failed in its long efforts in the battle field to get rid of Taliban rule in Afghanistan. Although American troops have survived there for a long time, they have not been able to bring Afghanistan back to control. At that time they suffered huge losses financially as well as losing a lot of troops. As a result, a survey found that the amount of loss in America is very heavy and they are no longer willing to lose. And after knowing this, the Taliban government also strengthened their position. As a result, now the country will be run as they want. If they take any negative decisions in cricket then there is no other option but to say bad luck to the cricketers.

The bail out was a stupid move by the Biden government, during Trump presidency there was no causalities and there were no attacks against the US soldiers and before pulling out of Afghanistan the Biden regime had a meeting with the Taliban representatives in Saudi and after that meeting they agreed that the US will pull out and they can occupy the country and that is how everything went down throwing away decades of money and personal spent for the war.

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I do not understand why the cricket boards and countries are sanctioning the Taliban. Because those countries have a lot of feminists saying that they can do whatever they want and whatever a man can do. Just get them to remove the Talibans, get them to fight against the Talibans, and make them use their feminist revolution to get the Afghani women to go to school.

If you revolt you will be dead and no one will come to you aide. So it is an impossible task.

I just find it really surprising, and also dumb because I understand that they are trying to talk about women's rights. But the women in Afghanistan are far happier compared to the women in Australia, New Zealand, or other first-world countries.

It is not true, when a generation of people enjoy freedom for 20 years and then all of a sudden when you are forced to live with all the restrictions i bet no one will be happy. So the idea of everyone is happy that the Taliban took over is a myth. 

[barbara44]

I do not understand why the cricket boards and countries are sanctioning the Taliban. Because those countries have a lot of feminists saying that they can do whatever they want and whatever a man can do. Just get them to remove the Talibans, get them to fight against the Talibans, and make them use their feminist revolution to get the Afghani women to go to school.

I just find it really surprising, and also dumb because I understand that they are trying to talk about women's rights. But the women in Afghanistan are far happier compared to the women in Australia, New Zealand, or other first-world countries.

I believe it's not all about women's are happy or no because no one have exact reports what is happening around there with mostly liberal are doing propaganda for their own and peoples those are favouring Taliban they are giving reports for their own, but recently we have few poor reports as women's are stopped from medical colleges and universities and then now they are banning women's those want to do work in few departments as well just because of this they are not allowing women's in sports even right now we have teams from Iran and Saudi Arab in soccer and few other sports as well with this all if Afghanistan is not going to accept ICC rules then surely things could be also not in their favour, and they have right to do things as they wanted even now as I read India is going in favour of Taliban just because of Pakistan is now having not good relationship with them so may be things could be changed about this all.

[JSRAW]

Tough situation for ACB as they are helpless against the Taliban and can't blame ICC or other boards if they kick them out or degrade their full membership status to associates. Rules are very clear in the book that you must have a Women's domestic setup, no matter what.

Would be better if ICC cut ACB's funding and allocate this particular amount to Afghan women's cricket, then these girls can make their base in another country. Afg Men's team did the same and had a home ground in India. This way ACB could avoid a ban.

Well.. this one looks like the most probable resolution to the issue. Zimbabwe was suspended for sometime and the funds frozen, after ICC found government intervention in day-to-day running of Zimbabwe cricket. Nepal also faced the same fate sometime back. Charges against Afghanistan are far more serious and may result in equal or more severe penalty from the ICC. One plus point for Afghanistan is that both the Indian government, as well as the BCCI have stood like a rock behind the Taliban regime, providing all the support they could. For ICC, it will be difficult to ignore the stance from the BCCI.

Sending humanitarian aid to Afghanistan, going ahead with pending infrastructure work or training existing batches of cadets hardly implies that India standing behind the Taliban, considering they still didn't recognize the Taliban as a government. BCCI does back ACB, let's see what happens.

 But the women in Afghanistan are far happier compared to the women in Australia, New Zealand, or other first-world countries.

Duke Khan

Yeah right, in a parallel world!

[Sithara007]

Sending humanitarian aid to Afghanistan, going ahead with pending infrastructure work or training existing batches of cadets hardly implies that India standing behind the Taliban, considering they still didn't recognize the Taliban as a government. BCCI does back ACB, let's see what happens.

At least politically, Indian government considers Afghanistan as one of the allies (despite the takeover by Taliban), and have provided them backing when required in UN and other global bodies. Afghanistan, Maldives, Bhutan and Bangladesh are some of the countries that are considered as "allies" by the government in Delhi. On the other hand, they have taken a very hostile stance against Nepal and Myanmar for geopolitical reasons. The Indian government considers these two countries as pro-China. Back in 2015, when Nepal was hit by an earthquake (when 10,000+ people died), the Indian government imposed a blockade which prevented the transport of medicines to that country. In Myanmar, India has supported the Rohingya and Chin rebel groups and have supported UN resolutions against Myanmar on the Rohingya issue. The church-controlled states such as Mizoram and Nagaland have allowed Chin rebel groups to establish their bases near the Myanmar border, from where they regularly attack the Tatmadaw.

BCCI is nowadays controlled almost entirely by politicians from the ruling party, such as Jay Shah, Anurag Thakur and Prem Kumar Dhumal and therefore their policies closely align with that of the Indian government. For the last two decades, the BCCI has refused to help the Cricket Association of Nepal (CAN) in any capacity, while they have showered huge amounts of money on the Afghanistan Cricket Board (ACB).

[Smack That Ace]

Yeah right, in a parallel world!

So you think the women in Afghanistan are not happy right now? Okay, I understand that. Let me ask you this, what do you think gives a woman the most amount of happiness? Women will always get the most amount of happiness by having a family. It's just somehow the western clown world and the feminist revolution has made certain women think that slaving away for a company that doesn't care about her is better than slaving away for her family and husband. I understand Afghanistan is a war-inflicted country. So in general most people are obviously not going to be happy all the time. But when the war is going on, it's not the men who are saying to the women to go fight. Of course, it's not even a question. Men are the ones fighting. By the standards that the Western countries and media are trying to put on, it will be better for males to say that yes women have all the power so let's get them to fight.

Don't get me wrong, the women in the first world countries are happy. But that's for a certain amount of time. When Western women are in their prime (from 18 to 25 age) they are having the best time of their life. But once they get near 30 and into the late 30s, things do not stay the same for them. A bunch of studies shows that in western society, a man gets happier as he ages and a woman gets less happier with age. But that's not the case in Afghanistan, at least as far as I know. Because the women in Afghanistan are taken care of no matter what. Families do stay together in Afghanistan.

Regards

Duke

[noormcs5]

As per ICC rules, Afghanistan needs to be suspended, because they don't have a women's team. But then, if you leave the decision with the BCCI, then they may get a reprieve.

That's not fair in my opinion to ban a men's team if they do not have a women's team. That might be a religious factor or talent factor whatever may be the reason for Afghanistan not to have a women's team but they can give this punishment to the men's team. I find this rule quite strange.

So you think the women in Afghanistan are not happy right now? Okay, I understand that. Let me ask you this, what do you think gives a woman the most amount of happiness? Women will always get the most amount of happiness by having a family.

I suppose we are talking about cricket here and as far as i know, the women cricketers players do have a family and they are happier too.
I am not saying Afghanistan women are not happy as they are not allowed to play, they are also happy. Every society has different morals and everyone fits according to the situation.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

As per ICC rules, Afghanistan needs to be suspended, because they don't have a women's team. But then, if you leave the decision with the BCCI, then they may get a reprieve.

That's not fair in my opinion to ban a men's team if they do not have a women's team. That might be a religious factor or talent factor whatever may be the reason for Afghanistan not to have a women's team but they can give this punishment to the men's team. I find this rule quite strange.

So you think the women in Afghanistan are not happy right now? Okay, I understand that. Let me ask you this, what do you think gives a woman the most amount of happiness? Women will always get the most amount of happiness by having a family.

I suppose we are talking about cricket here and as far as i know, the women cricketers players do have a family and they are happier too.
I am not saying Afghanistan women are not happy as they are not allowed to play, they are also happy. Every society has different morals and everyone fits according to the situation.

We are here to discuss cricket and yes Afghanistani women can't play cricket because of taliban strict rules and barbaric approach to every aspect of life. 
Reality is human rights are extremely violated in Afghanistan as far as women are concerned and by this thing they are really upset as they want to study, do job or play cricket.

[Smack That Ace]

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I do not understand why the cricket boards and countries are sanctioning the Taliban. Because those countries have a lot of feminists saying that they can do whatever they want and whatever a man can do. Just get them to remove the Talibans, get them to fight against the Talibans, and make them use their feminist revolution to get the Afghani women to go to school.

If you revolt you will be dead and no one will come to you aide. So it is an impossible task.

Well then maybe the women have to be smart. It is much more important to stay alive than to go to school.
Just stay home, let your man do whatever he has to do to feed the family, and stay alive. After all, staying alive and reproducing is the main target of any species.

I just find it really surprising, and also dumb because I understand that they are trying to talk about women's rights. But the women in Afghanistan are far happier compared to the women in Australia, New Zealand, or other first-world countries.

It is not true, when a generation of people enjoy freedom for 20 years and then all of a sudden when you are forced to live with all the restrictions i bet no one will be happy. So the idea of everyone is happy that the Taliban took over is a myth. 

I would not certainly say that they enjoyed freedom for 20 years. Whatever was going on in Afghanistan could be anything but not freedom. And for humankind to exist, they always have to be some kind of rules. Just think about the athletes, if there were no rules or restrictions, a high percentage of the athletes in all the sports all around the world would have shown up to the training ground drunk. The world runs better when there are restrictions and consequences.

I am certainly not saying that the Taliban is the best thing that ever happened to Afghanistan. They can also make mistakes and I'm sure they have made plenty. But right now it's the only choice for Afghanistan.

[Ayers]

Sending humanitarian aid to Afghanistan, going ahead with pending infrastructure work or training existing batches of cadets hardly implies that India standing behind the Taliban, considering they still didn't recognize the Taliban as a government. BCCI does back ACB, let's see what happens.

At least politically, Indian government considers Afghanistan as one of the allies (despite the takeover by Taliban), and have provided them backing when required in UN and other global bodies. Afghanistan, Maldives, Bhutan and Bangladesh are some of the countries that are considered as "allies" by the government in Delhi. On the other hand, they have taken a very hostile stance against Nepal and Myanmar for geopolitical reasons. The Indian government considers these two countries as pro-China. Back in 2015, when Nepal was hit by an earthquake (when 10,000+ people died), the Indian government imposed a blockade which prevented the transport of medicines to that country. In Myanmar, India has supported the Rohingya and Chin rebel groups and have supported UN resolutions against Myanmar on the Rohingya issue. The church-controlled states such as Mizoram and Nagaland have allowed Chin rebel groups to establish their bases near the Myanmar border, from where they regularly attack the Tatmadaw.
BCCI is nowadays controlled almost entirely by politicians from the ruling party, such as Jay Shah, Anurag Thakur and Prem Kumar Dhumal and therefore their policies closely align with that of the Indian government. For the last two decades, the BCCI has refused to help the Cricket Association of Nepal (CAN) in any capacity, while they have showered huge amounts of money on the Afghanistan Cricket Board (ACB).

I can see the leader of the Taliban has recently visited India and met Modi. So the situation between Afghanistan and India is friendly. At least that's my assumption. Now India is not going to help Afghanistan without any reason. But I don't see any option for Afghanistan without agreeing with India at this moment. But at the same time, they did not agree with America for almost two decades.

[JSRAW]

Sending humanitarian aid to Afghanistan, going ahead with pending infrastructure work or training existing batches of cadets hardly implies that India standing behind the Taliban, considering they still didn't recognize the Taliban as a government. BCCI does back ACB, let's see what happens.

At least politically, Indian government considers Afghanistan as one of the allies (despite the takeover by Taliban), and have provided them backing when required in UN and other global bodies.

Please point me to one instance where the Indian government has backed the Taliban on any international platform since the regime change (barring humanitarian aid). India (doesn't matter which gov) sees Afghanistan from a civilizational point of view, irrespective of all political/ideological differences. That's why they never stop aid etc as it directly focuses on civilians. Then there is some geo-political compulsion.

You and I already discussed the Nepal issue couple of times so there is no point in repeating my take on the Nepal issue.

In Myanmar, India has supported the Rohingya and Chin rebel groups and have supported UN resolutions against Myanmar on the Rohingya issue. The church-controlled states such as Mizoram and Nagaland have allowed Chin rebel groups to establish their bases near the Myanmar border, from where they regularly attack the Tatmadaw.

Relation with Myanmar is a mixed bag. Indian foreign policy with the bordering neighbor is quite consistent and Myanmar is no exception. Indian political support for democratic Myanmar is no surprise and yeah CDF rebel group is creating problems but India can't just kick them out because they will be killed. Despite this they also have fairly good relations with the military Junta due to long security cooperation with Tatmadaw in regards to the counter-insurgency in the northeast, that's why they never criticize them openly. Hell, they didn't even condemn the coup openly as they like to engage with all powers because of the long border and don't want to push them toward china completely. It's a tightrope and a lot of monkey balancing is going on but completely fine as it minimizes the damage.

Let's go back to cricket drama.

[tusandii]

It's been a long time since I watched and bet on a cricket match.
As far as I can remember, the last time I watched a cricket match was a team from India and India was one of my favorite and mainstay teams at that time.
For now, I haven't updated on the development of the Indian cricket team, is it still the same as before, which has pretty good strengths and game strategies so that it always manages to give me an advantage when betting in favor of them.
The last time I heard about the India vs West Indies match was in last year's ODI match and India managed to beat the West Indies.
Maybe in the future I will return to actively betting and watching every cricket match that will take place.

[dezoel]

I can see the leader of the Taliban has recently visited India and met Modi. So the situation between Afghanistan and India is friendly. At least that's my assumption. Now India is not going to help Afghanistan without any reason. But I don't see any option for Afghanistan without agreeing with India at this moment. But at the same time, they did not agree with America for almost two decades.

Even this all is deep politics but still I want to give few updates about this all changes which are happening around Afghanistan it all started last year when we have regime change in Pakistan now things are changing very quickly because this change was backed by the USA, and they were looking for few benefits which are now coming for them and their partner India in shape of Pakistan which was near China and Russia now have cut ties and many contracts and other things which was giving benefits to these parties are also ended so just because of this now India is also looking for joining Taliban to have visited them and create some backdoor relationship.

Just because of this now I have feeling most chances ICC will not suspend Afghanistan status which is backed by Australia, England and New Zealand due to have no women's cricket team, and they will give them time or any exemption even they will never allow women's to play games because they are not allowing them for having advance education and sports is far away from their current agenda.