Butterflylabs Huge SCAM

[frankenmint]

BFL is a big scam even if they shipped.

If you ask me Selling Block Eruptors for 300 bucks make out to be a bigger scam.  They are basically FPGAs only tinier.  what i don't get the most is why some people here show what appears to be a true hatred towards BFL which is crazy.  Don't like it, don't buy one!  There are like a million other people who can "DIY groupbuy your Avalon chips and assmemble your boards together into kits" but I don't want to deal with all that.  Do they do things sloppy? "yes"  do they try hard to deliver the best looking "most turnkey" product?  "yes"  Sure there's KNC, there's Terrahash, but I only see rendered drawings,  I've seen multiple photos of all the different types of BFL units in testing and in the wild and on ebay and on bitmit.net  but they were NOT preorders.  They had maybe a 180% cost premium or higher over stock price.  Only other ASIC hardware on the market is...yep you said it...block eruptors, fpgas which cost like 10x for the same hashpower and blades which are like 10k for a mere 10gh/s so no...(and of course Avalons that are known to be inferior watt for watt and will easily set you back 20k [something the 75% don't have or aren't willing to risk for the BTC economy]) 

Stop complaining...find or better yet...build a better ASIC, deliver the units....then start bashing BFL after you can DELIVER where they couldn't....

yea that's right you CAN'T.

for the record...all groupbuys are just baby bfls: preorder with escrow, ppl waiting on chips and assembly of boards with chips, ppl waiting for enough buyers in the groupbuy to acquire the chips...all the bfl bottlenecks that preorders face. 

Now I do question if this will be such a lost cause that I get my unit for 4 months and they try to "hook" me into a 2.0 asic 500TH miner for 3k and 50PH for 15k preorder AGAIN to disrupt difficulty to make the current asic obsolete. 

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[jantenner81]

oh man

[MooC Tals]

BFL is a big scam even if they shipped.

If you ask me Selling Block Eruptors for 300 bucks make out to be a bigger scam.  They are basically FPGAs only tinier.  what i don't get the most is why some people here show what appears to be a true hatred towards BFL which is crazy.  Don't like it, don't buy one!  There are like a million other people who can "DIY groupbuy your Avalon chips and assmemble your boards together into kits" but I don't want to deal with all that.  Do they do things sloppy? "yes"  do they try hard to deliver the best looking "most turnkey" product?  "yes"  Sure there's KNC, there's Terrahash, but I only see rendered drawings,  I've seen multiple photos of all the different types of BFL units in testing and in the wild and on ebay and on bitmit.net  but they were NOT preorders.  They had maybe a 180% cost premium or higher over stock price.  Only other ASIC hardware on the market is...yep you said it...block eruptors, fpgas which cost like 10x for the same hashpower and blades which are like 10k for a mere 10gh/s so no...(and of course Avalons that are known to be inferior watt for watt and will easily set you back 20k [something the 75% don't have or aren't willing to risk for the BTC economy]) 

Stop complaining...find or better yet...build a better ASIC, deliver the units....then start bashing BFL after you can DELIVER where they couldn't....

yea that's right you CAN'T.

for the record...all groupbuys are just baby bfls: preorder with escrow, ppl waiting on chips and assembly of boards with chips, ppl waiting for enough buyers in the groupbuy to acquire the chips...all the bfl bottlenecks that preorders face. 

Now I do question if this will be such a lost cause that I get my unit for 4 months and they try to "hook" me into a 2.0 asic 500TH miner for 3k and 50PH for 15k preorder AGAIN to disrupt difficulty to make the current asic obsolete. 

You need to know how the scam works to understand BFL as a scammer. I have posted many times proving this. Yes yo are correct in your statements however BFL is a scam.

[tinus42]

If you ask me Selling Block Eruptors for 300 bucks make out to be a bigger scam.

It's not a scam. People were willing to pay the price for it and they got what they paid for within a few days.

Even the price drop doesn't make it a scam. Early adopters always pay a higher price than later buyers (except in the case of Bitcoin of course where it's the reverse).

When some new console comes out it has a big price tag. After a few months the price decreases and after a few years you can get it for half the price the early adopters payed.

[darkmule]

If you ask me Selling Block Eruptors for 300 bucks make out to be a bigger scam.  They are basically FPGAs only tinier.  what i don't get the most is why some people here show what appears to be a true hatred towards BFL which is crazy.  Don't like it, don't buy one!

By the same "reasoning," I could say if you don't like the thread about BFL being a scam, don't post in it.

I don't like scammers.  If you love scammers, start your own thread about how scamming is great.

[tacoman71]

BFL is a big scam even if they shipped.

That's like saying KFC is a scam because they mistakenly didn't give me all the chicken I ordered!

[tacoman71]

scary...now shipping. does anyone know how to see an udated list?

bfl.ptz.ro

[Argwai96]

bfl lulz 

[Habeler876]

i wish i thought to take preorders and then pay for production by using customer products!

[darkmule]

BFL is a big scam even if they shipped.

That's like saying KFC is a scam because they mistakenly didn't give me all the chicken I ordered!

Yep, a year after your KFC order they delivered a load of months-old long-rotted chicken.

Stupid-ass motherfucker.

[FattyMcButterpants]

BFL is a big scam even if they shipped.

That's like saying KFC is a scam because they mistakenly didn't give me all the chicken I ordered!

Yep, a year after your KFC order they delivered a load of months-old long-rotted chicken.

Stupid-ass motherfucker.

  WORD

[MooC Tals]

BFL is a big scam even if they shipped.

That's like saying KFC is a scam because they mistakenly didn't give me all the chicken I ordered!

If it takes them a year to deliver then YEA!

[okidoki]

I really did not understand neither why they would not mine themselves. I think that one can only expect delivery when it is more profitable to sell the hardware than to mine... And still the total hashing power is not enough for that to happen... or the BTC price has to decrease...

[Frasermoto]

I've spent $2500 USD on hardware from BFL and I'm still trusting that they will deliver.

[pikachujdc]

Aren't they delivering it slowly?
Doesn't Jody keep a half-assed blog?

[DigitalMan]

do they allow refunds?  I bought a Kncminer and have no interest in my BFL SC 30 anymore.

[MooC Tals]

do they allow refunds?  I bought a Kncminer and have no interest in my BFL SC 30 anymore.

Refund window is closed. On new purchases

 Remember that update email you had to answer back in 10 days or so. If you did not confirm it then you would be in limbo and will require you to respond back to receive your refund.

[QuestionAuthority]

I've spent $2500 USD on hardware from BFL and I'm still trusting that they will deliver.

Damn, have you calculated how much you would have made if you just bought $2,500 worth of Bitcoins?

[Trillium]

I've spent $2500 USD on hardware from BFL and I'm still trusting that they will deliver.

Damn, have you calculated how much you would have made if you just bought $2,500 worth of Bitcoins?

More than he ever will make from mining with $2500 of BFL hardware.

[bitcoin_max]

Wired magazine didnt have to wait long for ITS publicity copy...