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June 22, 2021, 11:24:07 PM
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Boring but at least his games are not like Federer era when he was just winning everything so effortlessly. I know a lot of people like Fed better as a person but I personally think tennis is the stage for personalities like Djokovic, who want to entertain us more than anything else.

Guess Djoko is favorite now for Wimbledon yes?

I dont have a problem with Djokovic winning everything he is from Serbia from my country so im happy. Medvedev,Tsitsipas and other players arent even close to him and they dont deserve the first place in the world honestly. Federer before didnt have any competition and won it all easily once nadal and djokovic came he was useless i dont even consider Federer as the second all time great. Nadal and Djokovic are the best currently in the history. Djokovic can take this year if he wins it all the name of the greatest of all time

Ah,,, of course if I ever have an athlete from my country no matter the sport even bowling (I find it so boring) I will cheer them on:) But like I said Djokovic is an entertainer more than anything else sometimes you feel he even gives games away first so that he feels more motivated like a squad that loves coming from behind. I hope he wins Wimbledon because I got big money on outright:)
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Come on this is not entirely true. There have been games in Federer's prime where he destroyed Nadal and Djokovic. It is not like the two came up and Federer's time was over. Absolutely not. Go watch some youtube highlights where Federer beats them up so hard, but I agree with you that it became harder for him when both Nadal and Djokovic matured.

I guess Djokovic is the best player of all times and I can acknowledge that just from the perspective of someone who likes the sport. Federer was great to watch though. What I love the most about Djokovic is his defense. We are probably not going to see that ever again.

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June 23, 2021, 12:06:09 AM
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Boring but at least his games are not like Federer era when he was just winning everything so effortlessly. I know a lot of people like Fed better as a person but I personally think tennis is the stage for personalities like Djokovic, who want to entertain us more than anything else.

Guess Djoko is favorite now for Wimbledon yes?


I dont have a problem with Djokovic winning everything he is from Serbia from my country so im happy. Medvedev,Tsitsipas and other players arent even close to him and they dont deserve the first place in the world honestly. Federer before didnt have any competition and won it all easily once nadal and djokovic came he was useless i dont even consider Federer as the second all time great. Nadal and Djokovic are the best currently in the history. Djokovic can take this year if he wins it all the name of the greatest of all time

Ah,,, of course if I ever have an athlete from my country no matter the sport even bowling (I find it so boring) I will cheer them on:) But like I said Djokovic is an entertainer more than anything else sometimes you feel he even gives games away first so that he feels more motivated like a squad that loves coming from behind. I hope he wins Wimbledon because I got big money on outright:)

Come on this is not entirely true. There have been games in Federer's prime where he destroyed Nadal and Djokovic. It is not like the two came up and Federer's time was over. Absolutely not. Go watch some youtube highlights where Federer beats them up so hard, but I agree with you that it became harder for him when both Nadal and Djokovic matured.

I guess Djokovic is the best player of all times and I can acknowledge that just from the perspective of someone who likes the sport. Federer was great to watch though. What I love the most about Djokovic is his defense. We are probably not going to see that ever again.

That dosent matter at all. Federer is older a couple of years from them both. You can see the head to head results in total and you can see who is winning in them. Prime Federer was between 2000-2010 when there were no real opponents Nadal came first then Djokovic came
Djokovic won since 2011 more throphies then Nadal and Federer togheter. When you say that Federer beat them its normal he is one of the best in the history and the history tells it. But this year Djokovic can write a new history as the greatest of all time.

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June 23, 2021, 08:33:57 AM
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^^ Ah the old debate again as to who is the greatest tennis player of this generation. Arguably, it's hard to decide, yes Federer was the older of the three and obviously had a head way, during his prime no one can touch Roger. I remember him beating Pete Sampras in 03' 04 and others says that it is the passing of the torch, which eventually happen and Roger was so dominant in the next 3-4 years until Nadal come and then Djokovic.

But for now, looking at the records, it seems that Djokovic is somewhat ahead now and it he wins the Wimbledon this year, definitely he will cement himself and the best of the best.

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June 23, 2021, 09:29:50 AM
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Boring but at least his games are not like Federer era when he was just winning everything so effortlessly. I know a lot of people like Fed better as a person but I personally think tennis is the stage for personalities like Djokovic, who want to entertain us more than anything else.

Guess Djoko is favorite now for Wimbledon yes?


I dont have a problem with Djokovic winning everything he is from Serbia from my country so im happy. Medvedev,Tsitsipas and other players arent even close to him and they dont deserve the first place in the world honestly. Federer before didnt have any competition and won it all easily once nadal and djokovic came he was useless i dont even consider Federer as the second all time great. Nadal and Djokovic are the best currently in the history. Djokovic can take this year if he wins it all the name of the greatest of all time

Ah,,, of course if I ever have an athlete from my country no matter the sport even bowling (I find it so boring) I will cheer them on:) But like I said Djokovic is an entertainer more than anything else sometimes you feel he even gives games away first so that he feels more motivated like a squad that loves coming from behind. I hope he wins Wimbledon because I got big money on outright:)

Come on this is not entirely true. There have been games in Federer's prime where he destroyed Nadal and Djokovic. It is not like the two came up and Federer's time was over. Absolutely not. Go watch some youtube highlights where Federer beats them up so hard, but I agree with you that it became harder for him when both Nadal and Djokovic matured.

I guess Djokovic is the best player of all times and I can acknowledge that just from the perspective of someone who likes the sport. Federer was great to watch though. What I love the most about Djokovic is his defense. We are probably not going to see that ever again.

That dosent matter at all. Federer is older a couple of years from them both. You can see the head to head results in total and you can see who is winning in them. Prime Federer was between 2000-2010 when there were no real opponents Nadal came first then Djokovic came
Djokovic won since 2011 more throphies then Nadal and Federer togheter. When you say that Federer beat them its normal he is one of the best in the history and the history tells it. But this year Djokovic can write a new history as the greatest of all time.

^^ Ah the old debate again as to who is the greatest tennis player of this generation. Arguably, it's hard to decide, yes Federer was the older of the three and obviously had a head way, during his prime no one can touch Roger. I remember him beating Pete Sampras in 03' 04 and others says that it is the passing of the torch, which eventually happen and Roger was so dominant in the next 3-4 years until Nadal come and then Djokovic.

But for now, looking at the records, it seems that Djokovic is somewhat ahead now and it he wins the Wimbledon this year, definitely he will cement himself and the best of the best.

I’m going to be honest and admit that I have a biased opinion and I consider Nadal as the greatest tennis player, but I can’t even deny that Roger deserves all the credit for the hard work he’s put over the year’s. Lastly this question can never reach a end, cause each fan will support their favourite player only hence it’s a never ending debate.
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June 23, 2021, 10:04:53 AM
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What about girls?
Second round in Eastbourne for a surprising Camila Giorgi, who on grass seems to have found new motivations. After overcoming in three sets (2-6 6-2 6-2) a tough opponent such as Karolina Pliskova (world 5th) defeated after an hour and a half of play, the 29 year old Italian can put her sights on the quarter finals of the prestigious English tournament, one of the last before Wimbledon. In front of her now is the American Shelby Rogers, number 47 in the world, an obstacle that's anything but insurmountable.
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June 23, 2021, 12:56:15 PM
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What about girls?
Second round in Eastbourne for a surprising Camila Giorgi, who on grass seems to have found new motivations. After overcoming in three sets (2-6 6-2 6-2) a tough opponent such as Karolina Pliskova (world 5th) defeated after an hour and a half of play, the 29 year old Italian can put her sights on the quarter finals of the prestigious English tournament, one of the last before Wimbledon. In front of her now is the American Shelby Rogers, number 47 in the world, an obstacle that's anything but insurmountable.

Yes she is doing really well what a performance its not easy to win against pliskova after losing the first set and she win easily the second and third sets and even today a great performance against rogers too with 2 1 game win  i think she will go far in this competition.
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June 23, 2021, 01:47:03 PM
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Thiem give up in the first round in the first set (Mallorca Open), he have a wrist injury (felt pain). Would be the 2nd cancellation for Wimbledon after Nadal. 2 of the TOP 5 would already be missing. It's a shame, Nadal has already canceled the Olympic Games.

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June 23, 2021, 03:14:55 PM
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Come on this is not entirely true. There have been games in Federer's prime where he destroyed Nadal and Djokovic. It is not like the two came up and Federer's time was over. Absolutely not. Go watch some youtube highlights where Federer beats them up so hard, but I agree with you that it became harder for him when both Nadal and Djokovic matured.

I guess Djokovic is the best player of all times and I can acknowledge that just from the perspective of someone who likes the sport. Federer was great to watch though. What I love the most about Djokovic is his defense. We are probably not going to see that ever again.

Yeah,,, we have to say Fedex also conquered them when he did meet them. Maybe not in as entertaining a style as Nadal fast and furious or Djokovic random strength and random weakness.

The Old Lion always wins at first until his body betrays him.

Of all time, I still cannot really say. I like entertainment and am biased towards that but Djoko also has some character flaws that bother me.

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June 23, 2021, 03:34:44 PM
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Thiem give up in the first round in the first set (Mallorca Open), he have a wrist injury (felt pain). Would be the 2nd cancellation for Wimbledon after Nadal. 2 of the TOP 5 would already be missing. It's a shame, Nadal has already canceled the Olympic Games.
Thiem has not cancelled Wimbeldon yet, he is trying to recover in time to play. Would hate if he cancels as well.

It seems like Djokovic will have his draw wide open for another grans slam. Maybe Medvedev can make it interesting. I am expecting Rublev, Humbert and Cilic to do well this year. And of course I did not mention Tsitisipas but I don't remember him playing well on grass. Have to see him perform first.

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June 23, 2021, 07:41:27 PM
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Boring but at least his games are not like Federer era when he was just winning everything so effortlessly. I know a lot of people like Fed better as a person but I personally think tennis is the stage for personalities like Djokovic, who want to entertain us more than anything else.

Guess Djoko is favorite now for Wimbledon yes?


I dont have a problem with Djokovic winning everything he is from Serbia from my country so im happy. Medvedev,Tsitsipas and other players arent even close to him and they dont deserve the first place in the world honestly. Federer before didnt have any competition and won it all easily once nadal and djokovic came he was useless i dont even consider Federer as the second all time great. Nadal and Djokovic are the best currently in the history. Djokovic can take this year if he wins it all the name of the greatest of all time

Ah,,, of course if I ever have an athlete from my country no matter the sport even bowling (I find it so boring) I will cheer them on:) But like I said Djokovic is an entertainer more than anything else sometimes you feel he even gives games away first so that he feels more motivated like a squad that loves coming from behind. I hope he wins Wimbledon because I got big money on outright:)

Come on this is not entirely true. There have been games in Federer's prime where he destroyed Nadal and Djokovic. It is not like the two came up and Federer's time was over. Absolutely not. Go watch some youtube highlights where Federer beats them up so hard, but I agree with you that it became harder for him when both Nadal and Djokovic matured.

I guess Djokovic is the best player of all times and I can acknowledge that just from the perspective of someone who likes the sport. Federer was great to watch though. What I love the most about Djokovic is his defense. We are probably not going to see that ever again.

That dosent matter at all. Federer is older a couple of years from them both. You can see the head to head results in total and you can see who is winning in them. Prime Federer was between 2000-2010 when there were no real opponents Nadal came first then Djokovic came
Djokovic won since 2011 more throphies then Nadal and Federer togheter. When you say that Federer beat them its normal he is one of the best in the history and the history tells it. But this year Djokovic can write a new history as the greatest of all time.

Well there is no doubt that Djokovic is now the best in the world and I fully agree with you on that for sure! He is the best right now, period. I was just saying that claiming Djokovic always destroyed Federer easily is just not true. When they met around 2007 - 2012 there were epic games included. Really epic games where Federer's chances to win were equal to those of Djokovic. It was really close. Today I wouldn't bet on Federer anymore, no chance. If he faces Djokovic in Wimbledon it is game over for sure.

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June 24, 2021, 02:39:42 AM
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Thiem give up in the first round in the first set (Mallorca Open), he have a wrist injury (felt pain). Would be the 2nd cancellation for Wimbledon after Nadal. 2 of the TOP 5 would already be missing. It's a shame, Nadal has already canceled the Olympic Games.
Thiem has not cancelled Wimbeldon yet, he is trying to recover in time to play. Would hate if he cancels as well.

It seems like Djokovic will have his draw wide open for another grans slam. Maybe Medvedev can make it interesting. I am expecting Rublev, Humbert and Cilic to do well this year. And of course I did not mention Tsitisipas but I don't remember him playing well on grass. Have to see him perform first.

Tsitsipas doesn't play well in grass, so it will be a surprised to see him even in the quarter finals.

But yeah, Djokovic path's is clear, unless he make another silly mistakes of hitting the umpire or something, his chances are very high right now to win the Wimbledon. I don't see anyone right now that can match him mentality in closing matches. But who knows, maybe we can see someone pulling an upset but it will be a long shot.

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Thiem give up in the first round in the first set (Mallorca Open), he have a wrist injury (felt pain). Would be the 2nd cancellation for Wimbledon after Nadal. 2 of the TOP 5 would already be missing. It's a shame, Nadal has already canceled the Olympic Games.
Thiem has not cancelled Wimbeldon yet, he is trying to recover in time to play. Would hate if he cancels as well.

It seems like Djokovic will have his draw wide open for another grans slam. Maybe Medvedev can make it interesting. I am expecting Rublev, Humbert and Cilic to do well this year. And of course I did not mention Tsitisipas but I don't remember him playing well on grass. Have to see him perform first.

Tsitsipas doesn't play well in grass, so it will be a surprised to see him even in the quarter finals.

But yeah, Djokovic path's is clear, unless he make another silly mistakes of hitting the umpire or something, his chances are very high right now to win the Wimbledon. I don't see anyone right now that can match him mentality in closing matches. But who knows, maybe we can see someone pulling an upset but it will be a long shot.

Well that can only stop Djokovic currently. But now at wimbledon we will have a full hawk eye system so no more linesmen. Thats a good sign,just watched Djokovic in Mallorca playing doubles looks really good on grass and just reached the final

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June 24, 2021, 02:05:11 PM
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Thiem give up in the first round in the first set (Mallorca Open), he have a wrist injury (felt pain). Would be the 2nd cancellation for Wimbledon after Nadal. 2 of the TOP 5 would already be missing. It's a shame, Nadal has already canceled the Olympic Games.
Thiem has not cancelled Wimbeldon yet, he is trying to recover in time to play. Would hate if he cancels as well.

It seems like Djokovic will have his draw wide open for another grans slam. Maybe Medvedev can make it interesting. I am expecting Rublev, Humbert and Cilic to do well this year. And of course I did not mention Tsitisipas but I don't remember him playing well on grass. Have to see him perform first.

That's right, he hasn't canceled yet, I hope he'll play too, but with an injury it will be difficult. Unfortunately, he's not in top form in the last few months. Djokovic is my favorite for the next Grand Slam title, but I'm also curious to see how well Federer plays and how far he will get in Wimbledon.

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June 24, 2021, 08:26:13 PM
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Thiem give up in the first round in the first set (Mallorca Open), he have a wrist injury (felt pain). Would be the 2nd cancellation for Wimbledon after Nadal. 2 of the TOP 5 would already be missing. It's a shame, Nadal has already canceled the Olympic Games.
Thiem has not cancelled Wimbeldon yet, he is trying to recover in time to play. Would hate if he cancels as well.

It seems like Djokovic will have his draw wide open for another grans slam. Maybe Medvedev can make it interesting. I am expecting Rublev, Humbert and Cilic to do well this year. And of course I did not mention Tsitisipas but I don't remember him playing well on grass. Have to see him perform first.

That's right, he hasn't canceled yet, I hope he'll play too, but with an injury it will be difficult. Unfortunately, he's not in top form in the last few months. Djokovic is my favorite for the next Grand Slam title, but I'm also curious to see how well Federer plays and how far he will get in Wimbledon.
And now it is official. Thiem has canceled Wimbeldon and 2 other tournaments coming up after it, Hamburg and Gstad if I remember correctly. He will need several weeks to recover from his wrist injury.

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June 25, 2021, 01:32:11 AM
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Thiem give up in the first round in the first set (Mallorca Open), he have a wrist injury (felt pain). Would be the 2nd cancellation for Wimbledon after Nadal. 2 of the TOP 5 would already be missing. It's a shame, Nadal has already canceled the Olympic Games.
Thiem has not cancelled Wimbeldon yet, he is trying to recover in time to play. Would hate if he cancels as well.

It seems like Djokovic will have his draw wide open for another grans slam. Maybe Medvedev can make it interesting. I am expecting Rublev, Humbert and Cilic to do well this year. And of course I did not mention Tsitisipas but I don't remember him playing well on grass. Have to see him perform first.

Tsitsipas doesn't play well in grass, so it will be a surprised to see him even in the quarter finals.

But yeah, Djokovic path's is clear, unless he make another silly mistakes of hitting the umpire or something, his chances are very high right now to win the Wimbledon. I don't see anyone right now that can match him mentality in closing matches. But who knows, maybe we can see someone pulling an upset but it will be a long shot.

Well that can only stop Djokovic currently. But now at wimbledon we will have a full hawk eye system so no more linesmen. Thats a good sign,just watched Djokovic in Mallorca playing doubles looks really good on grass and just reached the final

Thanks for the info. And now that Thiem has officially not participating, Djokovic is going to be the favorite to win Wimbledon.

Anyone though betting on the qualifiers, of course the names are not very familiar, but I found out, Mackenzie McDonald, that time when I look at the first set, he was like @2.x underdog, lost the first two sets then comeback and won the last three. Unfortunately, didn't pull the trigger on him, could have been juicy odds after the two sets lost.

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June 25, 2021, 05:14:11 AM
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Tsitsipas doesn't play well in grass, so it will be a surprised to see him even in the quarter finals.

But yeah, Djokovic path's is clear, unless he make another silly mistakes of hitting the umpire or something, his chances are very high right now to win the Wimbledon. I don't see anyone right now that can match him mentality in closing matches. But who knows, maybe we can see someone pulling an upset but it will be a long shot.

Hope so for me because I will be betting on his outright, meanwhile I hope Barty also keeps her mantle of being favorite because I need them both to win to enjoy some good betting wins. Who do you think are the ones likely to go to final and have odds better than 10x? Cause I would like to take that bet.

Betting match by match has been difficult, losing even though picking the right guy eventually;)

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June 25, 2021, 05:23:37 AM
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Thiem give up in the first round in the first set (Mallorca Open), he have a wrist injury (felt pain). Would be the 2nd cancellation for Wimbledon after Nadal. 2 of the TOP 5 would already be missing. It's a shame, Nadal has already canceled the Olympic Games.
Thiem has not cancelled Wimbeldon yet, he is trying to recover in time to play. Would hate if he cancels as well.

It seems like Djokovic will have his draw wide open for another grans slam. Maybe Medvedev can make it interesting. I am expecting Rublev, Humbert and Cilic to do well this year. And of course I did not mention Tsitisipas but I don't remember him playing well on grass. Have to see him perform first.

Tsitsipas doesn't play well in grass, so it will be a surprised to see him even in the quarter finals.

But yeah, Djokovic path's is clear, unless he make another silly mistakes of hitting the umpire or something, his chances are very high right now to win the Wimbledon. I don't see anyone right now that can match him mentality in closing matches. But who knows, maybe we can see someone pulling an upset but it will be a long shot.

Well that can only stop Djokovic currently. But now at wimbledon we will have a full hawk eye system so no more linesmen. Thats a good sign,just watched Djokovic in Mallorca playing doubles looks really good on grass and just reached the final

Thanks for the info. And now that Thiem has officially not participating, Djokovic is going to be the favorite to win Wimbledon.

Anyone though betting on the qualifiers, of course the names are not very familiar, but I found out, Mackenzie McDonald, that time when I look at the first set, he was like @2.x underdog, lost the first two sets then comeback and won the last three. Unfortunately, didn't pull the trigger on him, could have been juicy odds after the two sets lost.

With Thiem and Nadal not participating, this is going to be an odd tournament. But yes I fully concur with you. There is pretty much nobody who could stop Novak Djokovic right now. I don't know whom Roger Federer is going to face on his way to the final, but a lot of younger players are already good enough to beat him in Wimbledon. I think even Zverev will be a hard nut to crack for Federer. I hope for the best for him as I would like to see the Maestro to make it as far as possible. He is still such a great personality for the sport as a whole!

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June 25, 2021, 05:36:10 AM
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Yes I would like to see Federer win another Grand Slam, this year though he has had
mixed results and was probably hoping to be more prepared coming into Wimbledon
after all this is the one he has been targeting for this year, who knows though, maybe
just being at Wimbledon will give him that extra gear.

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June 25, 2021, 10:39:02 AM
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Tsitsipas doesn't play well in grass, so it will be a surprised to see him even in the quarter finals.

But yeah, Djokovic path's is clear, unless he make another silly mistakes of hitting the umpire or something, his chances are very high right now to win the Wimbledon. I don't see anyone right now that can match him mentality in closing matches. But who knows, maybe we can see someone pulling an upset but it will be a long shot.

Hope so for me because I will be betting on his outright, meanwhile I hope Barty also keeps her mantle of being favorite because I need them both to win to enjoy some good betting wins. Who do you think are the ones likely to go to final and have odds better than 10x? Cause I would like to take that bet.

Betting match by match has been difficult, losing even though picking the right guy eventually;)

Yeah, I saw a lot of matches as qualifiers, but I don't want to take that risk though as upsets could happen here. Obviously, this are upcoming tennis players so I guess everyone is not familiar unless you have been following him/her as countrymen.

Not yet seen the outright odds though, but I will speculate that Djokovic could be like 1.5 favourite to win the Wimbledon here.

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June 25, 2021, 11:06:49 AM
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With Thiem missing out as well, things are looking really good for Đoković. A few easy rounds to warm up, then probably only Rublev or Tsitsipas as a serious challenge.

I still cannot dismiss Federer as a contender on grass, we all know how much he wants another title here, but a lot will depend on how fast the grass will be. If it will be slow (and it gets slower as the tournament progresses), he probably doesn't stand much chance of winning it. He's got Medvedev to beat as well.

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