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February 09, 2017, 02:22:03 PM
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Health and religion are not compatible. Religion offers to pray to God which is not. Perhaps it will help recovery. I do suggest the believers to conduct an experiment. Do not go to the doctors and pray to God. Or scared?
You are saying that prayer without action is pointless, and I agree.

Let me ask you this: why would you go to a doctor when you can learn the Wim Hof method and dramatically improve your immune system, even to the point of being able to fight terminal cancer--AND LIVE?

And what would be the point of going to a doctor if you (like most people) cannot afford one? You can try an experiment: try to get treatment without having any money or insurance, and make sure you get treatment from an atheist (then you can say that GOD did not help you with your health and that your health is not compatible with religion).

I did an experiment like this once; I trusted GOD and my intuition and my faith allowed me to find the treatment I needed, now I have been treating myself every day for 2 YEARS, and completely drug-free and no need for surgery even though EVERYONE said that "surgery" was "UNAVOIDABLE". No need for doctors, all I needed was the knowledge of how to use the device. I HAVE done a lot of experiments with health products and devices that are not mainstream, I got some astonishing results. Yes, miraculous results and healing at a distance is possible, but you have to get off of your ass. Since GOD is basically an energy that deals with information, this is how prayers can be answered.

Now how about skeptics? What kind of experiments are you trying out?
Thank you for sharing this, it is sad to think that there are lots of people who doesn't believe in the miracle of God.
I myself also believes that with Faith in God all things are possible, in my past life I am always worried about where to get money, what to eat, etc etc. But, when I learned to cast all my Burdens to HIM and less worry about that we had never encounter any problem financially.
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February 09, 2017, 02:57:25 PM
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God = santa clause or tooth fairy

If you require faith have it for yourself not from something that may or may not exist
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February 17, 2017, 08:58:58 PM
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The subconscious mind:
This is the powerhouse to who you are.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5aoyfx_how-to-live-your-dreams-life-millionaires-brain_lifestyle
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February 17, 2017, 09:57:58 PM
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"new developments in genetics, anthropology, and neurobiology...make a clear prediction that our intellectual and emotional abilities are genetically surprisingly fragile"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/human-intelligence-peaked-thousands-of-years-ago-and-weve-been-on-an-intellectual-and-emotional-8307101.html
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February 17, 2017, 11:08:11 PM
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God = santa clause or tooth fairy

If you require faith have it for yourself not from something that may or may not exist

Thanks for letting us know that it is "santa clause or tooth fairy" which are the most powerful forces in the universe. Grin

If you have faith, it is faith in things that you believe are right, but things that you don't really know for sure outside of your belief.

The fact of God's existence is proven by science and nature:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

This means that one can only have faith that God does NOT exist, because believing He does not exist contradicts science and nature fact.

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February 17, 2017, 11:38:04 PM
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God = santa clause or tooth fairy

If you require faith have it for yourself not from something that may or may not exist

Thanks for letting us know that it is "santa clause or tooth fairy" which are the most powerful forces in the universe. Grin

If you have faith, it is faith in things that you believe are right, but things that you don't really know for sure outside of your belief.

The fact of God's existence is proven by science and nature:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

This means that one can only have faith that God does NOT exist, because believing He does not exist contradicts science and nature fact.

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The links posted are not proof, but the ramblings of a madman.

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February 18, 2017, 02:50:24 AM
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God = santa clause or tooth fairy

If you require faith have it for yourself not from something that may or may not exist

Thanks for letting us know that it is "santa clause or tooth fairy" which are the most powerful forces in the universe. Grin

If you have faith, it is faith in things that you believe are right, but things that you don't really know for sure outside of your belief.

The fact of God's existence is proven by science and nature:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

This means that one can only have faith that God does NOT exist, because believing He does not exist contradicts science and nature fact.

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The links posted are not proof, but the ramblings of a madman.



If you use the links and the info in them as a start point, and research the info in any sources available, you will find that the info is accurate.

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February 18, 2017, 03:35:03 PM
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God = santa clause or tooth fairy

If you require faith have it for yourself not from something that may or may not exist

Thanks for letting us know that it is "santa clause or tooth fairy" which are the most powerful forces in the universe. Grin

If you have faith, it is faith in things that you believe are right, but things that you don't really know for sure outside of your belief.

The fact of God's existence is proven by science and nature:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

This means that one can only have faith that God does NOT exist, because believing He does not exist contradicts science and nature fact.

Cool

The links posted are not proof, but the ramblings of a madman.



If you use the links and the info in them as a start point, and research the info in any sources available, you will find that the info is accurate.

Cool

No actually I won't.

This your skewed belief of assumptions. Nothing more.
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February 18, 2017, 04:27:35 PM
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God = santa clause or tooth fairy

If you require faith have it for yourself not from something that may or may not exist

Thanks for letting us know that it is "santa clause or tooth fairy" which are the most powerful forces in the universe. Grin

If you have faith, it is faith in things that you believe are right, but things that you don't really know for sure outside of your belief.

The fact of God's existence is proven by science and nature:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

This means that one can only have faith that God does NOT exist, because believing He does not exist contradicts science and nature fact.

Cool

The links posted are not proof, but the ramblings of a madman.



If you use the links and the info in them as a start point, and research the info in any sources available, you will find that the info is accurate.

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No actually I won't.

This your skewed belief of assumptions. Nothing more.

Okay. You won't simply because you want to stay ignorant. But other people who look and are interested will find that science and nature prove God.

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February 18, 2017, 05:00:38 PM
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God = santa clause or tooth fairy

If you require faith have it for yourself not from something that may or may not exist

Thanks for letting us know that it is "santa clause or tooth fairy" which are the most powerful forces in the universe. Grin

If you have faith, it is faith in things that you believe are right, but things that you don't really know for sure outside of your belief.

The fact of God's existence is proven by science and nature:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

This means that one can only have faith that God does NOT exist, because believing He does not exist contradicts science and nature fact.

Cool

The links posted are not proof, but the ramblings of a madman.



If you use the links and the info in them as a start point, and research the info in any sources available, you will find that the info is accurate.

Cool

No actually I won't.

This your skewed belief of assumptions. Nothing more.

Okay. You won't simply because you want to stay ignorant. But other people who look and are interested will find that science and nature prove God.

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I agree..... let people look and see for themselves.

I will suggest they read the Christian Bible.

There is enough contradictions there to prove the falsehood of religion.
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February 18, 2017, 06:44:15 PM
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Watch this and ask if you can explain away these results with the standard mechanical understanding of consciousness.

Religions do not usually teach self-hypnosis for that would mean a loss of control, such methods of healing oneself require determination, you have to be determined to find out the truth about the mind-body relationship.

Developing awareness of the Self helps bring fruition to developing extraordinary well-being.

In order to cultivate well-being, start with an inward journey to understanding your true Self. Adopt practices that nourish your mind, body, and spirit. These practices will allow you to dig into the depths of who you are and give you the strength to show up as the best version of yourself.

http://www.chopra.com/articles/the-inward-journey-how-to-cultivate-well-being#sm.0001kq7vj18o7csz11ixa1ryekqur
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February 18, 2017, 07:05:01 PM
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with religion youre heart and mind is relaxed, so can effect incraese health is good
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February 18, 2017, 09:56:28 PM
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Watch this and ask if you can explain away these results with the standard mechanical understanding of consciousness.

Religions do not usually teach self-hypnosis for that would mean a loss of control, such methods of healing oneself require determination, you have to be determined to find out the truth about the mind-body relationship.

Developing awareness of the Self helps bring fruition to developing extraordinary well-being.

In order to cultivate well-being, start with an inward journey to understanding your true Self. Adopt practices that nourish your mind, body, and spirit. These practices will allow you to dig into the depths of who you are and give you the strength to show up as the best version of yourself.

http://www.chopra.com/articles/the-inward-journey-how-to-cultivate-well-being#sm.0001kq7vj18o7csz11ixa1ryekqur


The reason most formal religions don't teach self-hypnosis is that contacting your own subconscious mind can open a person up to direct contact with demons. Not that the demons are within a person's subconscious, but the contact is available in the subconscious. Some of the contact with demons will not be understood for what it is. The person has a greater chance to losing himself to direct control of the demons.

So, it is not for reasons of loss of control that religions don't teach self hypnosis. Rather, they are trying to keep the control of the person with the person rather than with demons.

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February 19, 2017, 12:51:58 AM
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Care to provide any reasonable connection between self-hypnosis and demons, at all?
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February 19, 2017, 01:26:06 AM
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Care to provide any reasonable connection between self-hypnosis and demons, at all?

I don't know of any. But that isn't what I said.    Cool

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February 19, 2017, 05:01:29 AM
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What is so scary about contacting your own subconscious? I say we should let the truth about the mind be revealed, you will not be deceived by demons if you practice self-inquiry and self-hypnosis, both are proper tools in the life of the seeker but religions will normally work to supress the truth about personal power.
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February 27, 2017, 04:25:16 AM
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What the Merging of Spirituality and Science means for you:
Science Finally Proves Meridians Exist
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February 27, 2017, 04:02:15 PM
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What is so scary about contacting your own subconscious? I say we should let the truth about the mind be revealed, you will not be deceived by demons if you practice self-inquiry and self-hypnosis, both are proper tools in the life of the seeker but religions will normally work to supress the truth about personal power.

The danger is this. We have trouble finding truth with people. How are we going to determine truth if we contact spirits?

The inner mind has always held ways to contact spirits. The complexity of mind is one of the things that keeps spirits out. When we open up the parts of the inner to direct contact from our outer mind, we open up contact with the spirits.

We have very little control of inner mind. The spirits are often deceptive, teaching things outside of the realms of things that we can control easily. They can open us up to false things as well as true things, but we won't know the difference.

In addition, the complexity of the mind is so great that we don't easily understand what we are looking at when our inner mind feeds us some of its own data.

Stay away from contacting your inner self if you want to stay away from opening up a path for spirits to feed you their information. You won't be able to distinguish the truth from falsehood. Many people that have done this, have gone insane, or else lost control of their own thinking and belief system.

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Actually, Jesus told everyone EXACTLY how to differentiate between good teachers and bad teachers; it's just one of those things where your skill gets better with practice. Jesus also said that you could do greater things than he did, that means that you can strengthen your spiritual connection with Father, you can use trance as a tool to reach out to GOD, and because GOD IS GOOD, he will answer your call; it will not be a scenario where you are being deceived by a demon, BADecker. What stories have you been hearing, exactly? The mental training I am familiar with does not cause such bizarre side-effects AT ALL.

In fact, all methods for contacting GOD in prayer all involve the use of the inner mind, your will is your connection to GOD, so with persistence and a bit of discernment you can strengthen your connection; GOD HEARS THE CALL OF YOUR HEART; I disagree that accessing the subconscious is dangerous because I am not aware of any cases of advanced mental training leading to psychosis (which teachers? which methods? you provided no plain examples); some people are vulnerable and need counseling, but this is not the rule; rather, the rule is that practically all will find benefits from meditation; using hypnosis to contact evil spirits is an exception, not the rule. Using hypnosis to get closer to GOD is much easier than you think, just like prayer focuses attention on one's mind and heart, so does hypnosis; in truth there is no such thing as "inner mind"; by closing off this part of your being, it is like you are restricting yourself from the innermost parts of your temple.
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February 27, 2017, 05:29:53 PM
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There are no spirits.  That is the reality.




You assert about "reality", but what about these 40 cases which actually happened in reality?
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml

What "reality-based" explanation do you provide? Oh, I see, you will dismiss these cases as "merely a PDF on some website".
Get a grip, af_newbie! Reality is staring you right in the face!
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