Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM.....

[Naida_BR]

Binotto left a "funny" statement.
Journalists had asked him if the cars between Vettel and Leclerc were the same or if they had any differences.
He practically replied this way: the cars are the same, Charles is very good and we expect more from a second driver like Sebastian.

FLAMED 

Did he really said that? 

You can't say that about an old Champion. Vettel isn't be supported well by his own team so it's now only his fault he isn't doing that well as Charles.

Fake news.... There is no such statement in the internet posted in no website.
It would be very disrespectful by him to say that in the middle of the championship.
If anyone can find this statement, just post it here that we are sure that he did say that, otherwise it never happened...

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[coinlocket$]

Fake news.... There is no such statement in the internet posted in no website.

Well... just some of those fake news here

https://www.fanpage.it/sport/motori/binotto-critica-vettel-ci-aspettiamo-di-piu-da-un-secondo-pilota-le-ferrari-sono-identiche/

https://www.autoappassionati.it/binotto-e-la-critica-a-vettel-ci-si-aspetta-di-piu-da-un-secondo-pilota/

https://www.italiaracing.net/Ferrari-Vettel-secondo-pilota-lo-dice-Binotto-ma-era-necessario/242171/1

https://www.liberoquotidiano.it/news/sport/25011879/ferrari-charles-leclerc-non-sono-idiota-macchina-vettel-piu-veloce-mattia-binotto-secondo-pilota.html

https://www.motorbox.com/auto/sport/f1/news/ferrari-binotto-vettel-aspettiamo-di-piu-secondo-pilota

They are all in Italian but you can use google translate if you want.

[dre1982]

AlphaTauri retains Pierre Gasly for 2021 F1 season. So he won't go to Red Bull next year but he deserves the seat in AlphaTauri. He is driving a great season.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/alphatauri-retains-gasly-2021-season/

[swogerino]

Fake news.... There is no such statement in the internet posted in no website.

Well... just some of those fake news here

https://www.fanpage.it/sport/motori/binotto-critica-vettel-ci-aspettiamo-di-piu-da-un-secondo-pilota-le-ferrari-sono-identiche/

https://www.autoappassionati.it/binotto-e-la-critica-a-vettel-ci-si-aspetta-di-piu-da-un-secondo-pilota/

https://www.italiaracing.net/Ferrari-Vettel-secondo-pilota-lo-dice-Binotto-ma-era-necessario/242171/1

https://www.liberoquotidiano.it/news/sport/25011879/ferrari-charles-leclerc-non-sono-idiota-macchina-vettel-piu-veloce-mattia-binotto-secondo-pilota.html

https://www.motorbox.com/auto/sport/f1/news/ferrari-binotto-vettel-aspettiamo-di-piu-secondo-pilota

They are all in Italian but you can use google translate if you want.

Italians for me are the ones who invented irony.This reminds me of Zidane against Materazzi in World Cup 2006 where Zidane told Materazzi that if he wanted the shirt he would give to him after the game and Materazzi replied I prefer more your sister which degenerated in the famous header from Zidane.

Now Vettel has to move away instantly from Ferrari as I think this offense can be taken seriously and if I were Vettel I would quit right away.I don’t believe in the contract between Vettel and Ferrari there are clauses where they can call him second driver,joking or not and in a certain matter even being prepotent and offending Seb.

[Cnut237]

Now Vettel has to move away instantly from Ferrari as I think this offense can be taken seriously and if I were Vettel I would quit right away.

The relationship between Vettel and Ferrari broke down a while ago. He just has to see out his (extremely lucrative) contract now. He is disappointed in the company, they are disappointed in him. But we are nearing the end of the season now, and I can't see that Vettel's motivation - or the motivation of the team to help him - will improve. Both are just running down the clock until they can move on.

From an outsider's perspective, they're both right. Ferrari this season has a poor car. But Vettel has been disappointing too. The crucial factor though is that in the past couple of years Ferrari have had a car that's right up there with Mercedes, but Vettel hasn't been good or consistent enough to challenge. So forgetting this season and looking further back to when this all started... I have more sympathy for Ferrari than for Vettel.

[Naida_BR]

AlphaTauri retains Pierre Gasly for 2021 F1 season. So he won't go to Red Bull next year but he deserves the seat in AlphaTauri. He is driving a great season.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/alphatauri-retains-gasly-2021-season/

I feel sad for him.
Personally, I expected him to return to Redbull because he is showing this season that he deserve it and he would be of a great team along with Max Verstappen.
At least I hope that Albon is not going to sign a new contract at Redbull.. It would be so unfair for Gasly.

[Real-Duke]

At least I hope that Albon is not going to sign a new contract at Redbull.. It would be so unfair for Gasly.

When he drives any longer behind Verstappen as right now there is no chance for Albon to get a further contract with Red Bull.
Always 0,5 seconds behind the teammate is not a good application for 2021

[aesma]

I'm not a fan of Albon (I have nothing against him either) but clearly he can't manage the Red Bull. I would really like for the teams to swap back between him and Gasly.

Gasly might not be of that opinion though, going against Verstappen is no gift. If the AlphaTauri continues to give him good opportunities, that's fine for him for at least another season.

[LTU_btc]

I'm not a fan of Albon (I have nothing against him either) but clearly he can't manage the Red Bull. I would really like for the teams to swap back between him and Gasly.

Gasly might not be of that opinion though, going against Verstappen is no gift. If the AlphaTauri continues to give him good opportunities, that's fine for him for at least another season.

I'm happy that he will stay in Alpha Tauri, he have great season with this team. I doubt that return to Red Bull would be good decision. IMO, Gasly and Albon are similar level drivers and both aren't good enough to stay near to Verstappen, I doubt that Gasly would have significantly better results in Red Bull than Albon. Verstappen is racing in his own league, while 2nd Red Bull get too much pressure to finnish in 4th position at least and don't let Mclaren, Raing Point and Renault drivers in front.
Seems that Red Bull may change their strategy and take experienced driver not from their system to the team, like Perez or Hulk. But then, where Albon will go?

[dre1982]

I'm not a fan of Albon (I have nothing against him either) but clearly he can't manage the Red Bull. I would really like for the teams to swap back between him and Gasly.

Gasly might not be of that opinion though, going against Verstappen is no gift. If the AlphaTauri continues to give him good opportunities, that's fine for him for at least another season.

I think Gasly is more comfortable at AlphaTauri then he would be at Red Bull. He can't handle the pressure next to Verstappen. Every driver is compared to the other driver of the team and no that much driver can compete Verstappen at this moment.

Just let him drive at AlphaTauri where he is comfortable.

[swogerino]

I'm not a fan of Albon (I have nothing against him either) but clearly he can't manage the Red Bull. I would really like for the teams to swap back between him and Gasly.

Gasly might not be of that opinion though, going against Verstappen is no gift. If the AlphaTauri continues to give him good opportunities, that's fine for him for at least another season.

I think Gasly is more comfortable at AlphaTauri then he would be at Red Bull. He can't handle the pressure next to Verstappen. Every driver is compared to the other driver of the team and no that much driver can compete Verstappen at this moment.

Just let him drive at AlphaTauri where he is comfortable.

I don't agree.The comfort zone in every job has not given someone anything good,it has just keep him stagnant and this is the risk for Gasly when staying at AlphaTauri.Of course he will gain more experience and become stronger but if he had moved to Red Bull he would have become much stronger than staying at AlphaTauri.We also need good drivers like him to race good cars like Red Bull in order to have more competition and to watch more beautiful races on Tv.

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This weekend F1 will back at Imola, since they had only 4 days to move everything from Portugal to Italy this weekend it will be special and it will be only a 2 day event.

Friday nothing at all.
Saturday, free practice in the morning and qualify in the afternoon.

Sunday race.

[Koal-84]

This weekend F1 will back at Imola, since they had only 4 days to move everything from Portugal to Italy this weekend it will be special and it will be only a 2 day event.

Friday nothing at all.
Saturday, free practice in the morning and qualify in the afternoon.

Sunday race.

I'm very happy about the Imola track this year. This is an oldschool classic track, every mistake cost a lot oft time or the race is over, could be an exciting race behind the Mercedes.

For 2021 the Formula1 will 23 races in one year, i think this is to mich for the Teams?

https://www.racefans.net/2020/10/27/draft-2021-f1-calendar-presented-to-teams-with-23-races/

[aesma]

Doing the 2-day week-end thing, why not, but doing it at a track the drivers aren't used to isn't ideal. Of course it might give us some more excitement, we shall see. Raikkonen has actually raced F1 there, more than a decade ago !

[dre1982]

Doing the 2-day week-end thing, why not, but doing it at a track the drivers aren't used to isn't ideal. Of course it might give us some more excitement, we shall see. Raikkonen has actually raced F1 there, more than a decade ago !

2-Days weekends are more interesting. I know Verstappen raced on this track a few years ago in the Formule 3.

[LTU_btc]

Alfa Romeo won't change their drivers lineup and extended contracts with Raikkonen and Giovinazzi:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-alfa-romeo-to-retain-raikkonen-and-giovinazzi-in-unchanged-2021.19pDOGCQr6fEivcPLGv4MZ.html
I'm happy that we will see Kimi in F1 for another year, but I don't know for what Giovinazzi got new contract...
So, there is few unknown drivers for 2021 left - one seat in Red Bull, Alpha Tauri and two spots in Haas.

Doing the 2-day week-end thing, why not, but doing it at a track the drivers aren't used to isn't ideal. Of course it might give us some more excitement, we shall see. Raikkonen has actually raced F1 there, more than a decade ago !

Yeah, it's a bit more difficult for drivers and teams, but I don't think it's big deal. In Nurburgring Friday sessions were cancelled, so they had just one practice too.
I haven't checked, but I think some more drivers, not just Kimi had tried this track, but offcourse it was in other racing series.

[Koal-84]

Alfa Romeo won't change their drivers lineup and extended contracts with Raikkonen and Giovinazzi:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-alfa-romeo-to-retain-raikkonen-and-giovinazzi-in-unchanged-2021.19pDOGCQr6fEivcPLGv4MZ.html
I'm happy that we will see Kimi in F1 for another year, but I don't know for what Giovinazzi got new contract...
So, there is few unknown drivers for 2021 left - one seat in Red Bull, Alpha Tauri and two spots in Haas.

Doing the 2-day week-end thing, why not, but doing it at a track the drivers aren't used to isn't ideal. Of course it might give us some more excitement, we shall see. Raikkonen has actually raced F1 there, more than a decade ago !

Yeah, it's a bit more difficult for drivers and teams, but I don't think it's big deal. In Nurburgring Friday sessions were cancelled, so they had just one practice too.
I haven't checked, but I think some more drivers, not just Kimi had tried this track, but offcourse it was in other racing series.

Thank you, i'm also happy for Kimi and the Formula1 he is for me a legandary at the actually Formula1lways say the truth and make cool statement, so i think Mick Schumacher at Haas. Why Giovinazzi, Ferrari say Giovanazzi so Giovanazzi drive...

[swogerino]

I am happy that we will back at one of the most legendary track in F1 and also well known for the greatest sad events of all time in F1 history like the death of a true legend,Ayrton Senna on 1 May 1994.This track is really beautiful and narrow and we are going to see a really beautiful race,I am strictly convinced about this.I am also happy for Kimi for signing another year in F1 with Alfa Romeo and I doubt any driver will bypass the number of races he has taken part for a long time.

[fullhdpixel]

I agree that 2 day weekend deals should be limited to tracks that teams raced very recently in the previous years, probably the ones in the line up already. When you limit it in a place people haven't raced in a long time it becomes a lot more boring, teams end up crashing constantly and there is always a safety car situation and at points it becomes re-start for the teams as well with the positions intact instead of letting them continue racing.

So, I would rather not see crashes that stop the game, I rather not crashes that are dangerous neither and this could cause something like that. You have to realize even though these drivers are absolutely the best, they are also just human, they rely a lot on memorizing every single movement they need to make, one slower turn or one faster stop and you are out of the race.

[coinlocket$]

I'm very happy about the Imola track this year. This is an oldschool classic track, every mistake cost a lot oft time or the race is over, could be an exciting race behind the Mercedes.

For 2021 the Formula1 will 23 races in one year, i think this is to mich for the Teams?

https://www.racefans.net/2020/10/27/draft-2021-f1-calendar-presented-to-teams-with-23-races/

Is better for us!
For teams meh I don't know, they will have more races, drivers will love it.

If a driver will complain about it he should not be a driver in 1st place.

Team will have to work in more Nations but they will work 1 day less for every GP, they should be only 2 days, day1 freepratice+Qualy and day 2 for the race.