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[Koal-84]

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Sorry for Rossi, so he have also a chance to win but after his second front Tyre mistake he have already no chance to win his 10th championship. But i hope for his 90th win.

Too bad, he looked really fast that day I thought he could win. He followed Morbidelli before going wide and Quartararo led the race to the end being champions. Unfortunately he fell on Lap 16. Is it a tire problem like you said or Human error?
The latest news seems that the spirit of the old racer, Valentino Rossi, has not disappeared. I read in several articles that in the 2021 season he will join Petronas Yamaha SRT.

I think at lap!16 are not a tyre Problem he make a human error, but it's the second after last race. But that's racing so looks forward to the next race and his 200 Podium place. And yes it's fix and contract has already been signed.

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[coinlocket$]

Specially Gasly vs Albon Remember that Gasly was kicked out of the Red Bull and Albon was the one that replaced him.

Yep, I think these will be the last GPs for Albion in Redbull and Gasly will go back.
The problem is who will take MAX spot in 2 years when according to rumors he will go to Mercedes?

[dre1982]

Specially Gasly vs Albon Remember that Gasly was kicked out of the Red Bull and Albon was the one that replaced him.

Yep, I think these will be the last GPs for Albion in Redbull and Gasly will go back.
The problem is who will take MAX spot in 2 years when according to rumors he will go to Mercedes?

The gap between Albon and Verstappen is just way too big. 1.2 seconds during a qualification is a too big gap. Even against a driver like Verstappen you should be closer in the same car.

But I wonder who can beat Verstappen in qualifying? Maybe Gasly can get closer but won't be faster I think.

[Naida_BR]

Not much action in today's race. Hamilton managed to lose race in such stupid way that I have no words. Interesting that he already have 10 penalty points. If he will get 2 more, he will have to miss one race.
Bottas said f*ck to haters, but saying it after he won race in such way - well, it doesn't looks like a strong message.
Not a bad race for Leclerc - P6. But for me it was a bit strange that stewards didn't even investigated his accident with Stroll.

Well, it was very stupid how he lost this race but all the blame is for his team.
He got the instruction and the permission to do this action which led to the time penalty.
I wonder why Hamilton is getting so much hate. He is the best driver on the grid but still people don't like him...

Well I think a lot of people don't like Hamilton that much due his behavior. If something doesn't go in a race as he expected he start acting like a little kid. He got the best car, best team behind him and in other years he was very lucky with decisions of the stewards. This year he isn't that lucky and already got some time penalties.

He might say some things on the race but after the race ends he doesn't behave like that.
It is all about on the pace and the stress of the race... He is still the best driver in the grid even if he is on the best car - it is not his problem that other teams do not invest as much as Mercedes- he needs to get more respect.

[Koal-84]

Specially Gasly vs Albon Remember that Gasly was kicked out of the Red Bull and Albon was the one that replaced him.

Yep, I think these will be the last GPs for Albion in Redbull and Gasly will go back.
The problem is who will take MAX spot in 2 years when according to rumors he will go to Mercedes?

Whether Albon or Gasly drives is not decisive, they have a similar level, but for Max is no option in the next years. As the second driver, Redbull will probably bring up its own offspring and Max will wait and see how competitive the new car is with the new rules. My guess.

At the new rules and with his end of the contract all will look at Hamilton, will he leave Mercedes?

[swogerino]

Specially Gasly vs Albon Remember that Gasly was kicked out of the Red Bull and Albon was the one that replaced him.

Yep, I think these will be the last GPs for Albion in Redbull and Gasly will go back.
The problem is who will take MAX spot in 2 years when according to rumors he will go to Mercedes?

Whether Albon or Gasly drives is not decisive, they have a similar level, but for Max is no option in the next years. As the second driver, Redbull will probably bring up its own offspring and Max will wait and see how competitive the new car is with the new rules. My guess.

At the new rules and with his end of the contract all will look at Hamilton, will he leave Mercedes?

I think Albon is driving better compared to Gasly.While Gasly win was because of circumstances Albon performance has been stable and always has had good races with quite some overtakings.

As for Max going to Mercedes I think it is just a rumour as both Hamilton and Bottas give to Mercedes what theh want and this will continue for as long as possible.Unless Ferrari and McLaren bring up competitive cars no radical driver changes are going to happen.

[aesma]

Albon never won a championshp while Gasly won the GP2 series, that's a significant difference. And today he's still miles behind Verstappen. I don't know if RedBull will swap them again, but it might not even be a good thing for Gasly if they did, if it's only to be dominated by Verstappen again !

[dre1982]

I just checked the F1 standings and Albon is still at #5. I didn't expect to see him that high if you see his results. He got exactly half of Verstappen's points which is why to less but overall he isn't doing that bad overall.

I don't expect that they will switch drivers this season. Only if Albon f*cks up really bad the next races.

[dothebeats]

I just checked the F1 standings and Albon is still at #5. I didn't expect to see him that high if you see his results. He got exactly half of Verstappen's points which is why to less but overall he isn't doing that bad overall.

Albon has been doing a pretty good drive on the last season and this season as well. He might not have podium finishes and other come-from-behind wins but he's consistent, and I think that's enough to have him a seat on Red Bull for much longer, unless of course he flops midway through the season and a series of bad beats occur when he's on the seat then we might see Gasly switching in. To be fair, I like how Albon drives compared to Gasly since the former is a much more calmer and calculated dude who only takes risks when it benefits him much. We've seen Gasly fuck up some good races simply by just being too aggressive and so far I do not see Albon doing that yet (given that the Thai racer does not have that much races yet).

[AakZaki]

I think at lap!16 are not a tyre Problem he make a human error, but it's the second after last race. But that's racing so looks forward to the next race and his 200 Podium place. And yes it's fix and contract has already been signed.

The next GP at Le Mans France. Are you sure he will get on the podium for 200th? Looking at the history of the champion at Le Mans last year, it was a racer who had a powerful motorbike on the straight track of Honda and Ducati. How do you predict whether F. Quartararo will win again or Rossi will make a surprise?

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Whether Albon or Gasly drives is not decisive, they have a similar level, but for Max is no option in the next years. As the second driver, Redbull will probably bring up its own offspring and Max will wait and see how competitive the new car is with the new rules. My guess.

At the new rules and with his end of the contract all will look at Hamilton, will he leave Mercedes?

I think he can stops in 2 years.
He will probably win these 2 championships and at that time he will be the all-time driver with more F1 titles...

For sure it will be a bad move if he leaves this year, he has no reason to do so without beating Schumacher.
He will probably race the next year too for a 50m/y contract and than IMHO he will change the team and try the new revolutionary cars or he will stop.

At that point, Max will go to Mercedes with Russel?

[aesma]

I just checked the F1 standings and Albon is still at #5. I didn't expect to see him that high if you see his results. He got exactly half of Verstappen's points which is why to less but overall he isn't doing that bad overall.

Albon has been doing a pretty good drive on the last season and this season as well. He might not have podium finishes and other come-from-behind wins but he's consistent, and I think that's enough to have him a seat on Red Bull for much longer, unless of course he flops midway through the season and a series of bad beats occur when he's on the seat then we might see Gasly switching in. To be fair, I like how Albon drives compared to Gasly since the former is a much more calmer and calculated dude who only takes risks when it benefits him much. We've seen Gasly fuck up some good races simply by just being too aggressive and so far I do not see Albon doing that yet (given that the Thai racer does not have that much races yet).

You mean except when he tries to overtake Hamilton ?

RedBull used to throw away drivers who were just "consistent" but not fast enough, maybe now that they have one of the best drivers they care less about the other driver, I don't know. From what the commentators on Sky are saying Albon needs to be faster. Being at some point in races last or almost last fighting with Williams is really not a good look.

Also Verstappen has had several mechanical retirements otherwise he would have many more points.

[Koal-84]

I think at lap!16 are not a tyre Problem he make a human error, but it's the second after last race. But that's racing so looks forward to the next race and his 200 Podium place. And yes it's fix and contract has already been signed.

The next GP at Le Mans France. Are you sure he will get on the podium for 200th? Looking at the history of the champion at Le Mans last year, it was a racer who had a powerful motorbike on the straight track of Honda and Ducati. How do you predict whether F. Quartararo will win again or Rossi will make a surprise?

The LeMans circuit is not the best for Yamaha, but the pace from Rossi is this year better than the last so i think many is possible. But I'm sure that he will get the 200th podium this year, the 90th win would be nice too, but that's more difficult then.

Last year Rossi are the best Yamaha driver at LeMans at #5, and from the #1 to #3 are not there or not in shape.

Also news from the Pramac Ducati team for the next year, there will drive Zarco and Martin.


https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/09/30/martin-and-zarco-confirmed-at-pramac-racing-for-2021/348214

[dre1982]

Whether Albon or Gasly drives is not decisive, they have a similar level, but for Max is no option in the next years. As the second driver, Redbull will probably bring up its own offspring and Max will wait and see how competitive the new car is with the new rules. My guess.

At the new rules and with his end of the contract all will look at Hamilton, will he leave Mercedes?

I think he can stops in 2 years.
He will probably win these 2 championships and at that time he will be the all-time driver with more F1 titles...

For sure it will be a bad move if he leaves this year, he has no reason to do so without beating Schumacher.
He will probably race the next year too for a 50m/y contract and than IMHO he will change the team and try the new revolutionary cars or he will stop.

At that point, Max will go to Mercedes with Russel?

Verstappen to Mercedes would be great for him if they still have such great car. Too bad he will not be the youngest Formule 1 Champion. It's still possible if he win this season but I don't see that happen anymore.

[aesma]

The next Mercedes (with the new rules) might still be the best car, but it's probably not going to be as domineering as the current one, as things will be "reset", and it's unlikely Mercedes will find another "trick" again, like their turbo design on the current engine.

[Koal-84]

The next Mercedes (with the new rules) might still be the best car, but it's probably not going to be as domineering as the current one, as things will be "reset", and it's unlikely Mercedes will find another "trick" again, like their turbo design on the current engine.

You think Mercedes is so strong on their own because they cheat, the cards will be reshuffled for the year 2022 and most of the teams will develop for this year, especially the engine manufacturers, the future engine specifications are already fixed? This weekend no Motorsport at TV no Formula1 and no MotoGP sounds really boring.

[dre1982]

The next Mercedes (with the new rules) might still be the best car, but it's probably not going to be as domineering as the current one, as things will be "reset", and it's unlikely Mercedes will find another "trick" again, like their turbo design on the current engine.

You think Mercedes is so strong on their own because they cheat, the cards will be reshuffled for the year 2022 and most of the teams will develop for this year, especially the engine manufacturers, the future engine specifications are already fixed? This weekend no Motorsport at TV no Formula1 and no MotoGP sounds really boring.

It will be boring weekend.

I was so happy with all those Formule 1 weekend after each other. The teams have an other opinion about that.

[masulum]

Francesco Bagnaia will become a Ducati racer in the upcoming MotoGP 2021 . Meanwhile, the Pramac Racing team will be filled with new racers, Johann Zarco and Jorge Martin. Valentino Rossi's brother, Luca Marini, is also rumored to be one of the potential riders for MotoGP 2021, but this news is still uncertain. Because in other news that I read, Rossi still hasn't give permission to his brother to become a MotoGP racer next year.

[dre1982]

Honda  will leave the Formule 1 after 2021.

Big disappointment for Red Bull and Alpha Tauri. I think Verstappen will leave Red Bull for sure in the coming years.

[Koal-84]

Honda  will leave the Formule 1 after 2021.

Big disappointment for Red Bull and Alpha Tauri. I think Verstappen will leave Red Bull for sure in the coming years.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-honda-to-leave-f1-at-the-end-of-2021.3nsZ7zzaokaze5Sjc4V6s0.html

That's very bad news for Red Bull and Alphatauri, i don't think Ferrari and Mercedes will give one of the greatest opponent his engine. And back to Renault?

Or a new Factory engine from Porsche (not TAG), the rumors have been around for a long time but is at the Corona time the right step?

Older article: https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/a27678359/porsche-2021-f1-engine/

Newer article (But only in German): https://www.tz.de/sport/formel-1/formel-1-porsche-einstieg-vw-domenicali-schumacher-auto-mercedes-spekulation-90054501.html