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[LTU_btc]

Oh, in the end, they give a penalty for him...
Well in my country in these cases we say "he acted like a chicken".

He had the pole what was his reason to ignore flags? Good penalty.
The weather, however, can be rain.

The race is in a few hours.

It's pity for Max, but it was totally his fault. Rules are rules and everyone have to follow it. Penalty was deserved.
And yeah, there is very big chance of rain during race, so we can expect interesting race.

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Watching the GP right now, is very interesting.

Everyone has a different strategy and is not clear which one is the best one!

Hamilton seems to be the favorite for now.

[Naida_BR]

Watching the GP right now, is very interesting.

Everyone has a different strategy and is not clear which one is the best one!

Hamilton seems to be the favorite for now.

Mercedes got another win due to better strategy.
They show that the deserve the constructor title and Toto Wolff is so clever leading the team.

[swogerino]

Watching the GP right now, is very interesting.

Everyone has a different strategy and is not clear which one is the best one!

Hamilton seems to be the favorite for now.

Mercedes got another win due to better strategy.
They show that the deserve the constructor title and Toto Wolff is so clever leading the team.

I think you are right but we should also know that all other teams are working on 2020 cars from sometime now because they have nothing to win here.I know many of them are testing different parts for the 2020 car and are using the data to build a better car.I think in 2020 we will see a more competitive Championship because of this.

[LTU_btc]

Mercedes got another win due to better strategy.
They show that the deserve the constructor title and Toto Wolff is so clever leading the team.

Yeah, Mercedes strategy was better than Ferrari again, despite that Lewis was complaining about it. Unfortunately after pit stops were made, race become boring and there was not much action in front. And win in Mexico wasn't enough for Lewis to become World Champion, he had to outscord Bottas by 14 points.
Not good race for Verstappen - after accident with Lewis he was last, though he was able to recover many positions and finnished 6th.

[tokeweed]

^  Just tell me when. 

Anyway does anybody know where I can find the data for the fastest laps for each race on each track for the last 6 years or so?

[Naida_BR]

Mercedes got another win due to better strategy.
They show that the deserve the constructor title and Toto Wolff is so clever leading the team.

Yeah, Mercedes strategy was better than Ferrari again, despite that Lewis was complaining about it. Unfortunately after pit stops were made, race become boring and there was not much action in front. And win in Mexico wasn't enough for Lewis to become World Champion, he had to outscord Bottas by 14 points.
Not good race for Verstappen - after accident with Lewis he was last, though he was able to recover many positions and finnished 6th.

Indeed it became boring but we have to blame Ferrari for that because they weren't very fast to complete Mercedes.
Lewis didn't win the title yet, but yesterday's win was a big step towards this goal.

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Mercedes won probably with strategy over Lecrecr and strength over Vettel.
The faster player of the race was Verstappen, got the pole started as 4th.
Touched with Hamilton on 1st turn, went to box without 1 full tire in the last position and got 6th final position at only 68 secs.
Without the touch, he could win the GP without any issue IMHO.

I know is very easy to talk with IF.

[Naida_BR]

Mercedes won probably with strategy over Lecrecr and strength over Vettel.
The faster player of the race was Verstappen, got the pole started as 4th.
Touched with Hamilton on 1st turn, went to box without 1 full tire in the last position and got 6th final position at only 68 secs.
Without the touch, he could win the GP without any issue IMHO.

I know is very easy to talk with IF.

That's true, he had a disastrous race this weekend.
He could be the winner but he made many mistakes with the biggest one in the qualification round where he neglected the yellow flag.

[LTU_btc]

^  Just tell me when. 

Anyway does anybody know where I can find the data for the fastest laps for each race on each track for the last 6 years or so?

Yeah, it's only matter of time...
Speaking about your question, probably easiest way to find it would be Wiki. You just need to open article about particular season and there you will that information. For example, look here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Formula_One_World_Championship

[elda34b]

Anyway does anybody know where I can find the data for the fastest laps for each race on each track for the last 6 years or so?

Speaking about your question, probably easiest way to find it would be Wiki. You just need to open article about particular season and there you will that information.

An alternative would be https://www.racing-statistics.com/en/seasons. Has the data up to 1950 (not all fastest lap record available), looks great for me. Click the seasons and navigate to the race, there will be a fastest laps record.

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New gp this week on USA, Austin.

2018 results were very close between Mercedes Ferrari.

Here the results https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_Grand_Prix

Qualifying
Pos.    Car
no.    Driver    Constructor    Qualifying times    Final
grid
Q1    Q2    Q3
1    44    United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton    Mercedes    1:34.130    1:33.480    1:32.237    1
2    5    Germany Sebastian Vettel    Ferrari    1:34.569    1:33.079    1:32.298    51
3    7    Finland Kimi Räikkönen    Ferrari    1:34.703    1:32.884    1:32.307    2
4    77    Finland Valtteri Bottas    Mercedes    1:34.518    1:33.702    1:32.616    3
5    3    Australia Daniel Ricciardo    Red Bull Racing-TAG Heuer    1:34.755    1:34.185    1:33.494    4

Race
1    7    Finland Kimi Räikkönen    Ferrari    56    1:34:18.643    2    25
2    33    Netherlands Max Verstappen    Red Bull Racing-TAG Heuer    56    +1.281    18    18
3    44    United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton    Mercedes    56    +2.342    1    15
4    5    Germany Sebastian Vettel    Ferrari    56    +18.222    5    12

[Naida_BR]

The 2021 F1 car is  revealed and it seems amazing!
Can't wait to see it racing on the tracks. It seems very aerodynamic and it is possible a lot of faster than the one that it races today.

Link: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.2021-car-revealed-as-fia-and-f1-present-regulations-for-the-future.3ZkeTsu1sNCrFGP1HI9KVy.html

[LTU_btc]

The 2021 F1 car is  revealed and it seems amazing!
Can't wait to see it racing on the tracks. It seems very aerodynamic and it is possible a lot of faster than the one that it races today.

Link: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.2021-car-revealed-as-fia-and-f1-present-regulations-for-the-future.3ZkeTsu1sNCrFGP1HI9KVy.html

New f1 car looks amazing on images and it's different a lot complaining with current cars. In these visualisations everything looks so nice, but we have to see how everything will work in reality. And it's still lot of time left to see it, 2019 season didn't even finished it and there is whole 2020 season before it.

[bbc.reporter]

The concept car is nice, however, I reckon the Mercedes will continue its dominance with the V6 turbo. Engines should be rotated every 4 years with V6 turbo, V8, V10, V12.

[swogerino]

The concept car is nice, however, I reckon the Mercedes will continue its dominance with the V6 turbo. Engines should be rotated every 4 years with V6 turbo, V8, V10, V12.

The changes I think that are good because the sport without them becomes boring and some teams dominate and make the sport boring like Ferrari in the Schumacher era.However these changes not always produce the same results,even with changes teams like Red Bull a few years ago and Mercedes now did know a bit before the rules were implemented and they took profit of it,Mercedes was working on the V6 engine before the other teams so they got an advantage,it is time for new rules to be applied at the same time to all the teams so we could have a real competition.

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The concept car is nice, however, I reckon the Mercedes will continue its dominance with the V6 turbo. Engines should be rotated every 4 years with V6 turbo, V8, V10, V12.

They can't rotate the engines if they do its teams need to spend a lot of millions on research.

Mercedes is domination cause the got an advantage on start, do you know how F1 changed to Hybrid and who started to winning with the Hybrid?
Who did the test privately? Yes.

Anyway, we are getting more info about the 2021 revolution, the average time lost for a lap will be 3 sec according the simulations.
Cars will lost only 6% from the actual 50% of aerodynamic force when following another car on high-speed turns.
 
This is from gazzettadellosport and for now, is how a car will look like with the new tires too.

[Naida_BR]

The 2021 F1 car is  revealed and it seems amazing!
Can't wait to see it racing on the tracks. It seems very aerodynamic and it is possible a lot of faster than the one that it races today.

Link: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.2021-car-revealed-as-fia-and-f1-present-regulations-for-the-future.3ZkeTsu1sNCrFGP1HI9KVy.html

New f1 car looks amazing on images and it's different a lot complaining with current cars. In these visualisations everything looks so nice, but we have to see how everything will work in reality. And it's still lot of time left to see it, 2019 season didn't even finished it and there is whole 2020 season before it.

Indeed but it is just the hype of the announcement.
The 2021 car seems to be more eco friendly combined with strong engine power and speed. The perfect combination in order to make the sport more competitive.

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Verstappen was the fastest on practice 1, they are also trying the new tires 2020 on these 2 rounds so I don't know how much we need to look at times.

The tires are using now has the new compounds for the new season.

[LTU_btc]

So, Lewis is World Champion officially for the 6th time in total and 3rd time in a row. Congrats for him, but it's getting boring, I hope to see someone giving him better competition, maybe not next year, but in 2021...
Bottas won the race in style and also because Lewis 1 pit strategy didn't worked and he had to change tyres again.
Alex Albon - another great performance, from P20 after start accident to P5, I think it's obvious who will be 2nd Red Bull driver next year.
And Kvyat - this lad got time penalty on last lap second race in a row. But I don't what exactly did happened, because it wasn't shown on TV...