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April 04, 2016, 06:06:59 PM
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You know, if you listen to your beloved Science, a man can become a women, or two faggot can become married, and they call this the liberty...

I suppose the opposite of discrimination is liberty?

What do you have against science?  That's crazy how you write derogatorily about it... Do you dislike science? Why?

Treating homosexuals with equality has nothing to do with science... Its a philosophy/moral/logic issue

When you cross the mark of the natural normalness and that it is tolarated, even encouraged, there's definitely something weird. The pro-gays say that they're common humans and brand their actions as the fight for the liberty.

It seems that you did not listened to any socialist leader recently. They say that the forgot ism is something fully natural, and thus should exist, and thus should exist. It is heavily positively branded and encouraged.

About the science : even if I admire some science theories, a big part of them are dumb and desparated anti-religion crusades.

Who "crossed the mark of natural normalness"?

Homosexuality is very natural and exhibited by nearly every species on the planet at a rate of around 10%!

Science is not anti-religion... Science is pro-truth and pro-honestly, and pro-integrity, and believes in facts and evidence that can be proven... You are only upset that religion does not fit the definition of fact, reality, or science

What is this nonsense about a socialist leader? Can you repeat that in English?

About the socialist leaders, I said that they say what is in the next sentance. No, homosexuality isn't normal, fuck ! You, who believe in the darwinism, you should know that the "Evolution" made happen two genders to perpetuate the specy. Gays obvioulsy don't perpetuate it. Thus gays aren't normal for the "Nature" !

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April 04, 2016, 07:22:02 PM
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About the socialist leaders, I said that they say what is in the next sentance. No, homosexuality isn't normal, fuck ! You, who believe in the darwinism, you should know that the "Evolution" made happen two genders to perpetuate the specy. Gays obvioulsy don't perpetuate it. Thus gays aren't normal for the "Nature" !

First, the word you are looking for is species, not specy

Second, there is no such thing as "darwinism"

Third, use spell check asshole! you have 4 spelling mistakes... fix your shit


Gays are as normal as it gets, you stupid motherfucker... Nearly every animal species on this planet exhibits homosexual behavior

The fact that 2 penises cannot make a baby does not mean it isn't normal... where the fuck do you get that correlation?  That's like saying red-hair isn't normal because it doesn't perpetuate the species... well, no shit Sherlock!  Red hair doesn't have babies... But it also doesn't have shit to do with what is natural or not

Are freckles unnatural because they don't perpetuate the "specy"?

Your stupid bible is wrong, immoral, and so is your God... Please, do not do the things that your bible tells you to do... The bible encourages slavery, rape, murder, homophobia, and all sorts of stupid shit... don't do it man, I beg you... please do not murder your children for being disobedient... please do not murder a homosexual for being gay... please do not murder a man for shaving his side-burns or eating bacon! (please do not do the things your God commands you to do)
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April 04, 2016, 07:34:06 PM
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About the socialist leaders, I said that they say what is in the next sentance. No, homosexuality isn't normal, fuck ! You, who believe in the darwinism, you should know that the "Evolution" made happen two genders to perpetuate the specy. Gays obvioulsy don't perpetuate it. Thus gays aren't normal for the "Nature" !

First, the word you are looking for is species, not specy

Second, there is no such thing as "darwinism"

Third, use spell check asshole! you have 4 spelling mistakes... fix your shit


Gays are as normal as it gets, you stupid motherfucker... Nearly every animal species on this planet exhibits homosexual behavior

The fact that 2 penises cannot make a baby does not mean it isn't normal... where the fuck do you get that correlation?  That's like saying red-hair isn't normal because it doesn't perpetuate the species... well, no shit Sherlock!  Red hair doesn't have babies... But it also doesn't have shit to do with what is natural or not

Are freckles unnatural because they don't perpetuate the "specy"?

Your stupid bible is wrong, immoral, and so is your God... Please, do not do the things that your bible tells you to do... The bible encourages slavery, rape, murder, homophobia, and all sorts of stupid shit... don't do it man, I beg you... please do not murder your children for being disobedient... please do not murder a homosexual for being gay... please do not murder a man for shaving his side-burns or eating bacon! (please do not do the things your God commands you to do)
Saved me from giving him a mouth full .THANKS moloch you said it all so no need for me to say anything.. Grin
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April 04, 2016, 08:36:54 PM
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About the socialist leaders, I said that they say what is in the next sentance. No, homosexuality isn't normal, fuck ! You, who believe in the darwinism, you should know that the "Evolution" made happen two genders to perpetuate the specy. Gays obvioulsy don't perpetuate it. Thus gays aren't normal for the "Nature" !

First, the word you are looking for is species, not specy

Second, there is no such thing as "darwinism"

Third, use spell check asshole! you have 4 spelling mistakes... fix your shit


Gays are as normal as it gets, you stupid motherfucker... Nearly every animal species on this planet exhibits homosexual behavior

The fact that 2 penises cannot make a baby does not mean it isn't normal... where the fuck do you get that correlation?  That's like saying red-hair isn't normal because it doesn't perpetuate the species... well, no shit Sherlock!  Red hair doesn't have babies... But it also doesn't have shit to do with what is natural or not

Are freckles unnatural because they don't perpetuate the "specy"?

Your stupid bible is wrong, immoral, and so is your God... Please, do not do the things that your bible tells you to do... The bible encourages slavery, rape, murder, homophobia, and all sorts of stupid shit... don't do it man, I beg you... please do not murder your children for being disobedient... please do not murder a homosexual for being gay... please do not murder a man for shaving his side-burns or eating bacon! (please do not do the things your God commands you to do)

Sorry, I'm really tired so not really prompt to a correct spelling.

Darwinism, the theory of the evolution of the species ? Do you see my point ?

Gays aren't normal. Being normal mean that are like the majority. You're doing the confusion between being unormal and being discrimated. That's not because I said that they were not normal that they should be discriminated. That's another story, not the point of this subject. Seen by the way that they're not how the human was intented, they're not normal. Also, we're not animals, so comparing ourselves with them is not the best thing to do. Finally, these same animals reproduct themselves, even if gays, they just don't say in couple with their faggot boyfriend !

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April 04, 2016, 09:01:54 PM
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   Sorry to tell you, but everything seems to force [you] to conclude that you were nothing for an eternity and are going to be nothing again for another.

If you came from eternal nothing, then the fact that you are here NOW is simply miraculous.

Another amazing thing:
"Day after day countless living entities in this world go to the kingdom of death. Still, those who remain aspire for a permanent situation here. What could be more amazing than this?"

By the fact that I AM present here in this discussion, I conclude that I have not arisen from eternal nothing because NOTHING CAN COME FROM NOTHING.

Instead of spontaneous generation ex nihilo, I postulate REVERSAL OF POTENTIAL AND CYCLES:

POSTULATE NO. 1: All bodies are continuous. They never cease. They merely reverse their potential TWICE in every CYCLE of their eternal journey within and beyond the range of your sensing by compressing into visibility and then expanding into their invisible seed-recordings.

POSTULATE NO. 2: All bodies are expressed in cycles. A cycle is a continuous two-way spiral journey from the expanded condition of a body to its opposite compressed condition and back again to its expanded condition. A most familiar example of a cycle is DAY and NIGHT. Each is the opposite half of the other, such as one's breathing.

So why not choose cycles as the explanation, especially since it is far simpler than creation ex nihilo? Even if you were to conclude (somehow) that something (awareness) arose from nothing, how would you know for sure that this is the case?

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For any authority, the final stage is experience, which alone gives the validity. The analysis of life energy, awareness etc. is done based on the experience of a human being existing here. All this is the analysis of the various aspects of the human being existing in this world. We have concluded that the awareness is the finest and greatest item in this world based on the practical analysis here itself. If the practical experience is neglected, the logic will lose its basis. In such situation, even the scripture cannot stand because one may say that the scripture itself is a false imagination of some mad person. Therefore all this analysis is based on the internal nature of the available human being. The analysis of the human being perfectly gives the analysis of this entire creation because any human being is a part of creation only. Therefore, the logical analysis and the practical experience associated forms the science. Any spiritual aspirant is an ordinary human being only and thus science is applicable for analysing your self.

In fact the process of elimination only can do the attainment of self or the casual body, which is a perfect scientific procedure. Self is the best item of the creation and the analysis of self is also science. When you are an item of creation, Your ways and efforts cannot be supernatural and they must follow the natural rules of creation, which are again science only. Therefore you must use the logical scientific analysis in analysing yourself and your path to reach God. But God is beyond this creation who is the Creator. Therefore God cannot be analysed by science. When the goal is above science the scientific path cannot be meaningful because the scientific path will lead to such goal only, which can be analysed by science. For e.g.: let us take the path to Bombay, the path is on the Earth and Bombay is also on the Earth. A path that can be analyzed by logic can reach the goal, which must be also analyzed by the logic.

If I start the journey to God and ask the path to reach Him, nobody can show the path because the God is invisible. An invisible goal will always have an invisible path. Nobody can travel in invisible path. One can show the path to a holy temple. If God exists in the statue, such path is a true path. The main purpose of reaching God is to know the whole knowledge of your self, the correct path and the correct goal. The reason is that God is the best preacher since all the matters are related to God. Therefore the Human Incarnation is the correct place of God. The human incarnation consists of a visible human body so that the path to reach Him also becomes visible. Since God is in the human incarnation, by reaching that human body you have reached God. In fact God pervaded all over the body and you have reached the God. The God becomes visible through human body and therefore the path to reach God is also visible.

The main purpose to reach God is to hear the correct version of the entire spiritual knowledge. Then through service you have to please the God. In the case of statue, it is not preaching any trace of knowledge. Moreover when we serve the statute it is not appearing pleased on its face. Due to these two reasons neither God is in the statute nor God is the statute (Na tasya Pratima- Veda). The statute in the human form is a model to indicate the human form of the Lord. The ignorant human beings who cannot accept the human form of the God due to egoism and jealousy can worship the statue as a training for sometime to worship the human form of Lord in future ( Pratimahyalpa Buddhinam- Smruti). But one should not sit in the training through out his life. If he sits in the training only, he is born as an inert object like stone (Bhutejya yanti- Gita).
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April 04, 2016, 09:08:13 PM
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You know, if you listen to your beloved Science, a man can become a women, or two faggot can become married, and they call this the liberty...

I suppose the opposite of discrimination is liberty?

What do you have against science?  That's crazy how you write derogatorily about it... Do you dislike science? Why?

Treating homosexuals with equality has nothing to do with science... Its a philosophy/moral/logic issue

When you cross the mark of the natural normalness and that it is tolarated, even encouraged, there's definitely something weird. The pro-gays say that they're common humans and brand their actions as the fight for the liberty.

It seems that you did not listened to any socialist leader recently. They say that the forgot ism is something fully natural, and thus should exist, and thus should exist. It is heavily positively branded and encouraged.

About the science : even if I admire some science theories, a big part of them are dumb and desparated anti-religion crusades.

Who "crossed the mark of natural normalness"?

Homosexuality is very natural and exhibited by nearly every species on the planet at a rate of around 10%!

Science is not anti-religion... Science is pro-truth and pro-honestly, and pro-integrity, and believes in facts and evidence that can be proven... You are only upset that religion does not fit the definition of fact, reality, or science

What is this nonsense about a socialist leader? Can you repeat that in English?

About the socialist leaders, I said that they say what is in the next sentance. No, homosexuality isn't normal, fuck ! You, who believe in the darwinism, you should know that the "Evolution" made happen two genders to perpetuate the specy. Gays obvioulsy don't perpetuate it. Thus gays aren't normal for the "Nature" !

It's fun playing with Moloch, isn't it? I try to give him the benefit of the doubt all the time, by stretching the things that he says so that they make a little sense. But sometimes you just can't find any way to give him the benefit of the doubt. You just have to let his ignorance shine through.

The thing to do is catch his posts with a reply before he deletes them. It makes it harder for him to deny that he posted such and such that way.

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About the socialist leaders, I said that they say what is in the next sentance. No, homosexuality isn't normal, fuck ! You, who believe in the darwinism, you should know that the "Evolution" made happen two genders to perpetuate the specy. Gays obvioulsy don't perpetuate it. Thus gays aren't normal for the "Nature" !

First, the word you are looking for is species, not specy

Second, there is no such thing as "darwinism"

Third, use spell check asshole! you have 4 spelling mistakes... fix your shit


Gays are as normal as it gets, you stupid motherfucker... Nearly every animal species on this planet exhibits homosexual behavior

The fact that 2 penises cannot make a baby does not mean it isn't normal... where the fuck do you get that correlation?  That's like saying red-hair isn't normal because it doesn't perpetuate the species... well, no shit Sherlock!  Red hair doesn't have babies... But it also doesn't have shit to do with what is natural or not

Are freckles unnatural because they don't perpetuate the "specy"?

Your stupid bible is wrong, immoral, and so is your God... Please, do not do the things that your bible tells you to do... The bible encourages slavery, rape, murder, homophobia, and all sorts of stupid shit... don't do it man, I beg you... please do not murder your children for being disobedient... please do not murder a homosexual for being gay... please do not murder a man for shaving his side-burns or eating bacon! (please do not do the things your God commands you to do)

Please what !!!

Are you begging? Are you asking because you don't have enough authority to stand on your own two feet?

Chuckle, chuckle. Someone comes along with the answer, and all you can do is beg at him. "Please... oh pretty please..."

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April 04, 2016, 11:06:17 PM
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Gays aren't normal. Being normal mean that are like the majority. You're doing the confusion between being unormal and being discrimated. That's not because I said that they were not normal that they should be discriminated. That's another story, not the point of this subject. Seen by the way that they're not how the human was intented, they're not normal. Also, we're not animals, so comparing ourselves with them is not the best thing to do. Finally, these same animals reproduct themselves, even if gays, they just don't say in couple with their faggot boyfriend !

Are you retarded?

Anything that isn't in the majority is not normal and should be discriminated against?  What the fuck?  Where do you idiots find this bullshit?

So... if you are left-handed... fuck you... if you have freckles or red hair, fuck you... if you are black or Jewish, fuck you... if you are gay, fuck off... if you wear glasses, you deserve to die

You really need to re-think your game-plan... you just made an enemy of basically everyone... Are you in the KKK?


If you think homosexuality isn't natural... here is a link to a documentary that you won't watch, which explains everything you don't understand
Animal Homosexuality Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYdcvRe7ox8
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POSTULATE NO. 1: All bodies are continuous. They never cease. They merely reverse their potential TWICE in every CYCLE of their eternal journey within and beyond the range of your sensing by compressing into visibility and then expanding into their invisible seed-recordings.

POSTULATE NO. 2: All bodies are expressed in cycles. A cycle is a continuous two-way spiral journey from the expanded condition of a body to its opposite compressed condition and back again to its expanded condition. A most familiar example of a cycle is DAY and NIGHT. Each is the opposite half of the other, such as one's breathing.

So why not choose cycles as the explanation, especially since it is far simpler than creation ex nihilo? Even if you were to conclude (somehow) that something (awareness) arose from nothing, how would you know for sure that this is the case?

Here is a neat little physics experiment that POSTULATE NO. 1 brought to mind

Where does light go when it is 'destroyed' by destructive interference?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RRi4dv9KgCg

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Gays aren't normal. Being normal mean that are like the majority. You're doing the confusion between being unormal and being discrimated. That's not because I said that they were not normal that they should be discriminated. That's another story, not the point of this subject. Seen by the way that they're not how the human was intented, they're not normal. Also, we're not animals, so comparing ourselves with them is not the best thing to do. Finally, these same animals reproduct themselves, even if gays, they just don't say in couple with their faggot boyfriend !

Are you retarded?

Anything that isn't in the majority is not normal and should be discriminated against?  What the fuck?  Where do you idiots find this bullshit?

So... if you are left-handed... fuck you... if you have freckles or red hair, fuck you... if you are black or Jewish, fuck you... if you are gay, fuck off... if you wear glasses, you deserve to die

You really need to re-think your game-plan... you just made an enemy of basically everyone... Are you in the KKK?


If you think homosexuality isn't natural... here is a link to a documentary that you won't watch, which explains everything you don't understand
Animal Homosexuality Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYdcvRe7ox8

Two things that don't fit in the same universe:
1. evolution;
2. homosexuality;
... except if there is corruption of the system, and law-breaking of foundational physics.

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POSTULATE NO. 1: All bodies are continuous. They never cease. They merely reverse their potential TWICE in every CYCLE of their eternal journey within and beyond the range of your sensing by compressing into visibility and then expanding into their invisible seed-recordings.

POSTULATE NO. 2: All bodies are expressed in cycles. A cycle is a continuous two-way spiral journey from the expanded condition of a body to its opposite compressed condition and back again to its expanded condition. A most familiar example of a cycle is DAY and NIGHT. Each is the opposite half of the other, such as one's breathing.

So why not choose cycles as the explanation, especially since it is far simpler than creation ex nihilo? Even if you were to conclude (somehow) that something (awareness) arose from nothing, how would you know for sure that this is the case?

Here is a neat little physics experiment that POSTULATE NO. 1 brought to mind

Where does light go when it is 'destroyed' by destructive interference?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RRi4dv9KgCg
Atheists think of life as beginning at birth and ending in death. They have not yet learned to think of it as a continuity such as the cycle of a piston stroke in an expansion-contraction engine--yet one is as continuous as the other.

Daylight is but light compressed. Can you logically say that invisible night-light is dead? Can you truthfully say that only those things which respond to your senses are living and those others which are beyond your sensing are dead?

Why, then, do you even have to ask yourselves if you believe in reincarnation or do not believe in it? A human being is one unit of an imperishable, eternal idea. His body manifests that idea. When his body disappears, it passes beyond his sensing but his identity, as IDEA, is as continuous as eternity is continuous. It is never changed in the vision or idea of God, its source.

In August, you can pick apples from a certain tree. In October, you cannot, but when August again comes, you can again pick apples from that particular early fruiting tree. Nature refolds everything which has unfolded from it back into its seed but Nature again unfolds it forever and ever, on planet after planet, throughout eternity. Where, then, is that thing which we call death and rebirth? Are they not just two points in the same journey?

Let us consider the cycles of an oak tree and the cycles of a glass of water. The glass of water rose up into the heavens as vapor. What do we mean by the word "heavens" in this respect? We mean the low potential gases into which all high potential bodies disappear. The glass of water did not go all the way to absolute zero for it was not fully dead. It had lowered its potential and sought a balancing position of lower potential in the direction of zero potential... Now, what about the oak? Wherein lies the difference? The oak has expanded completely into its own identity-record in the zero universe which is its Soul-seed. Can you not see that the oak had but refolded in its zero record to rest from the long years of action of body building? And can you not see that its reappearance as rebirth is but a re-emergence of the same oak? If you plant an acorn from the oak which died in your garden, you will again see it there alive. In your meditation, ask yourself if death is what you thought it was. Did the oak die? Did it "go anywhere" after it died? Do you "go anywhere" when you die each night to rest or at the end of a life cycle to rest? Do you believe that the oak ever discontinued? How could you when you have seen it come back? Moreover, if it had strange characteristics, so shall the new growth from its acorn. You know it was the same oak for you planted the folded up seed of it in your garden yourself.

In the same sense, how do you know that the child playing in your neighbor's garden is not your own grandmother or even your own daughter? When you know more about the oneness of man, you will more clearly comprehend the possibility of such a happening.
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POSTULATE NO. 1: All bodies are continuous. They never cease. They merely reverse their potential TWICE in every CYCLE of their eternal journey within and beyond the range of your sensing by compressing into visibility and then expanding into their invisible seed-recordings.

POSTULATE NO. 2: All bodies are expressed in cycles. A cycle is a continuous two-way spiral journey from the expanded condition of a body to its opposite compressed condition and back again to its expanded condition. A most familiar example of a cycle is DAY and NIGHT. Each is the opposite half of the other, such as one's breathing.

So why not choose cycles as the explanation, especially since it is far simpler than creation ex nihilo? Even if you were to conclude (somehow) that something (awareness) arose from nothing, how would you know for sure that this is the case?

Here is a neat little physics experiment that POSTULATE NO. 1 brought to mind

Where does light go when it is 'destroyed' by destructive interference?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RRi4dv9KgCg
Atheists think of life as beginning at birth and ending in death. They have not yet learned to think of it as a continuity such as the cycle of a piston stroke in an expansion-contraction engine--yet one is as continuous as the other.

Daylight is but light compressed. Can you logically say that invisible night-light is dead? Can you truthfully say that only those things which respond to your senses are living and those others which are beyond your sensing are dead?

Why, then, do you even have to ask yourselves if you believe in reincarnation or do not believe in it? A human being is one unit of an imperishable, eternal idea. His body manifests that idea. When his body disappears, it passes beyond his sensing but his identity, as IDEA, is as continuous as eternity is continuous. It is never changed in the vision or idea of God, its source.

In August, you can pick apples from a certain tree. In October, you cannot, but when August again comes, you can again pick apples from that particular early fruiting tree. Nature refolds everything which has unfolded from it back into its seed but Nature again unfolds it forever and ever, on planet after planet, throughout eternity. Where, then, is that thing which we call death and rebirth? Are they not just two points in the same journey?

Let us consider the cycles of an oak tree and the cycles of a glass of water. The glass of water rose up into the heavens as vapor. What do we mean by the word "heavens" in this respect? We mean the low potential gases into which all high potential bodies disappear. The glass of water did not go all the way to absolute zero for it was not fully dead. It had lowered its potential and sought a balancing position of lower potential in the direction of zero potential... Now, what about the oak? Wherein lies the difference? The oak has expanded completely into its own identity-record in the zero universe which is its Soul-seed. Can you not see that the oak had but refolded in its zero record to rest from the long years of action of body building? And can you not see that its reappearance as rebirth is but a re-emergence of the same oak? If you plant an acorn from the oak which died in your garden, you will again see it there alive. In your meditation, ask yourself if death is what you thought it was. Did the oak die? Did it "go anywhere" after it died? Do you "go anywhere" when you die each night to rest or at the end of a life cycle to rest? Do you believe that the oak ever discontinued? How could you when you have seen it come back? Moreover, if it had strange characteristics, so shall the new growth from its acorn. You know it was the same oak for you planted the folded up seed of it in your garden yourself.

In the same sense, how do you know that the child playing in your neighbor's garden is not your own grandmother or even your own daughter? When you know more about the oneness of man, you will more clearly comprehend the possibility of such a happening.

The problem in the basics of this kind of thinking is, there WAS a Beginning, and there will be an end. If there had been no beginning, and in place of it there was a "continualness" going back forever, entropy would have dispersed and dispelled and diffused everything into simpleness long ago, with no complexity to be found anywhere.

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April 05, 2016, 01:34:03 AM
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Gays aren't normal. Being normal mean that are like the majority. You're doing the confusion between being unormal and being discrimated. That's not because I said that they were not normal that they should be discriminated. That's another story, not the point of this subject. Seen by the way that they're not how the human was intented, they're not normal. Also, we're not animals, so comparing ourselves with them is not the best thing to do. Finally, these same animals reproduct themselves, even if gays, they just don't say in couple with their faggot boyfriend !

Are you retarded?

Anything that isn't in the majority is not normal and should be discriminated against?  What the fuck?  Where do you idiots find this bullshit?

So... if you are left-handed... fuck you... if you have freckles or red hair, fuck you... if you are black or Jewish, fuck you... if you are gay, fuck off... if you wear glasses, you deserve to die

You really need to re-think your game-plan... you just made an enemy of basically everyone... Are you in the KKK?


If you think homosexuality isn't natural... here is a link to a documentary that you won't watch, which explains everything you don't understand
Animal Homosexuality Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYdcvRe7ox8

Two things that don't fit in the same universe:
1. evolution;
2. homosexuality;
... except if there is corruption of the system, and law-breaking of foundational physics.

That is equivalent to saying that color-blind people don't fit in the same universe... everyone is different in some way... get over yourself asshole

Just because a character trait doesn't increase sperm count or whatever your standard is... does not make it wrong, it only makes you wrong... and a bigot
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Gays aren't normal. Being normal mean that are like the majority. You're doing the confusion between being unormal and being discrimated. That's not because I said that they were not normal that they should be discriminated. That's another story, not the point of this subject. Seen by the way that they're not how the human was intented, they're not normal. Also, we're not animals, so comparing ourselves with them is not the best thing to do. Finally, these same animals reproduct themselves, even if gays, they just don't say in couple with their faggot boyfriend !

Are you retarded?

Anything that isn't in the majority is not normal and should be discriminated against?  What the fuck?  Where do you idiots find this bullshit?

So... if you are left-handed... fuck you... if you have freckles or red hair, fuck you... if you are black or Jewish, fuck you... if you are gay, fuck off... if you wear glasses, you deserve to die

You really need to re-think your game-plan... you just made an enemy of basically everyone... Are you in the KKK?


If you think homosexuality isn't natural... here is a link to a documentary that you won't watch, which explains everything you don't understand
Animal Homosexuality Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYdcvRe7ox8

Two things that don't fit in the same universe:
1. evolution;
2. homosexuality;
... except if there is corruption of the system, and law-breaking of foundational physics.

That is equivalent to saying that color-blind people don't fit in the same universe... everyone is different in some way... get over yourself asshole

Just because a character trait doesn't increase sperm count or whatever your standard is... does not make it wrong, it only makes you wrong... and a bigot

I suppose it will have to be explained to you before you will even be able to start to grasp it.

Evolution designs things with a purpose. The purpose is to expand and extend life. Heterosexuality extends and expands life. Homosexuality doesn't. Homosexuality doesn't fit in a universe that is built by evolution, except in a corrupt way.

You sound like you are hitting the bottle again.

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April 05, 2016, 01:44:59 AM
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Gays aren't normal. Being normal mean that are like the majority. You're doing the confusion between being unormal and being discrimated. That's not because I said that they were not normal that they should be discriminated. That's another story, not the point of this subject. Seen by the way that they're not how the human was intented, they're not normal. Also, we're not animals, so comparing ourselves with them is not the best thing to do. Finally, these same animals reproduct themselves, even if gays, they just don't say in couple with their faggot boyfriend !

Are you retarded?

Anything that isn't in the majority is not normal and should be discriminated against?  What the fuck?  Where do you idiots find this bullshit?

So... if you are left-handed... fuck you... if you have freckles or red hair, fuck you... if you are black or Jewish, fuck you... if you are gay, fuck off... if you wear glasses, you deserve to die

You really need to re-think your game-plan... you just made an enemy of basically everyone... Are you in the KKK?


If you think homosexuality isn't natural... here is a link to a documentary that you won't watch, which explains everything you don't understand
Animal Homosexuality Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYdcvRe7ox8

Two things that don't fit in the same universe:
1. evolution;
2. homosexuality;
... except if there is corruption of the system, and law-breaking of foundational physics.

That is equivalent to saying that color-blind people don't fit in the same universe... everyone is different in some way... get over yourself asshole

Just because a character trait doesn't increase sperm count or whatever your standard is... does not make it wrong, it only makes you wrong... and a bigot

I suppose it will have to be explained to you before you will even be able to start to grasp it.

Evolution designs things with a purpose. The purpose is to expand and extend life. Heterosexuality extends and expands life. Homosexuality doesn't. Homosexuality doesn't fit in a universe that is built by evolution, except in a corrupt way.

You sound like you are hitting the bottle again.

Why are you such an asshole that you have to start every post with something equivalent to, "you are stupid so let me explain it to you"? (Way to represent christianity in a negative light asshole... WWJD motherfucker?)

1) Evolution does not design anything... you don't understand what evolution is

B) Evolution is based on 2 simple principles... random changes, both good and bad... and natural selection/survival of the fittest, which weeds out (most) of the bad traits, leaving mostly good traits

This does not mean that there are no bad traits, like colorblindness for example... 8% of men are colorblind, yet it's not bad enough to be 0%...

How does colorblindness fit into God creating perfect humans?

Homosexuality is the same thing... it doesn't help survival, but its really not enough of a hindrance to weed it out of the population...

Then, when you mix in thousands of years where gays were openly hated and murdered... they were forced into hiding, marrying women, having children, spreading their gay genes... it's really your own fault there are so many gays... if christians hadn't forced them to marry women and have children, there would be half as many homosexuals

If you didn't hate faggots so much, there would be fewer of them... the irony is thick


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Tempers flaring from parents just blow 'em off and keep going
Not taking nothing from no one give 'em hell long as I'm breathing
Keep kicking ass in the morning and taking names in the evening
Leave 'em with a taste as sour as vinegar in they mouth
See they can trigger me, but they'll never figure me out
Look at me now, I bet ya probably sick of me now ain't you momma?
I'mma make you look so ridiculous now
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April 05, 2016, 02:05:37 AM
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Why did Moloch just post an embarrassing all-caps reply shouting at me and telling me that he refuses to read what I wrote? At least he had the dignity to delete it after the fact! I appreciate that! Even if my statement is not true for ALL atheists, it is certainly true for the atheist in question, namely Moloch; perhaps that is why he has deleted his post; he knew that it was true as it applies specifically to him:

Atheists think of life as beginning at birth and ending in death. They have not yet learned to think of it as a continuity such as the cycle of a piston stroke in an expansion-contraction engine--yet one is as continuous as the other.

All who reject gods are typically accepting the idea that nature is indifferent to our individual existence (as evidenced by the existence of death).

OP made a bold claim of physicalism, the existence of death is implied as compelling evidence in favor of atheism:
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   Sorry to tell you, but everything seems to force [you, i.e. anyone] to conclude that you were nothing for an eternity and are going to be nothing again for another.

How does the OP know that nature is indifferent to our individual existence? What makes him the authority? Has he experienced what he is talking about? And how can the OP possibly claim that something (awareness) came from eternal nothing?
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Why did Moloch just post an embarrassing all-caps reply shouting at me and telling me that he refuses to read what I wrote? At least he had the dignity to delete it after the fact! I appreciate that! Even if my statement is not true for ALL atheists, it is certainly true for the atheist in question, namely Moloch; perhaps that is why he has deleted his post; he knew that it was true as it applies specifically to him:

Atheists think of life as beginning at birth and ending in death. They have not yet learned to think of it as a continuity such as the cycle of a piston stroke in an expansion-contraction engine--yet one is as continuous as the other.

All who reject gods are typically accepting the idea that nature is indifferent to our individual existence (as evidenced by the existence of death).

OP made a bold claim of physicalism, the existence of death is implied as compelling evidence in favor of atheism:
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  Sorry to tell you, but everything seems to force [you, i.e. anyone] to conclude that you were nothing for an eternity and are going to be nothing again for another.

How does the OP know that nature is indifferent to our individual existence? What makes him the authority? Has he experienced what he is talking about? And how can the OP possibly claim that something (awareness) came from eternal nothing?

You don't know shit about atheism

Please quit pretending you know anything about atheists

Anyone who claims, "atheists think"... (anything)... is wrong 100% of the time (in addition to being an ignorant hypocritical asshole)

I wouldn't even begin to presume that all christians think alike... only half of them even believe the story of the garden of eden is fact, the other half believe it is a metaphor...

I certainly wouldn't put words in someone else's mouth... telling them what they think... that's something an idiot might do
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Let's try to keep this civilized and avoid insults or ad hominem arguments.

My rules of engagement are more or less a prompt permanent ignore, without a single warning or answer, on anyone that goes too far on me because of all his excitement on the pursue of the truth.

Yes, I know, that has some connotations with censorship, but I do believe on certain limits, especially when I'm involved.

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Everyone has a different path to take in life. In the later posts of the Atheism and Health thread I explained my path and the logic that led me to reject atheism as false. I wish you good fortune on your journey.


Thanks for your wishes. I didn't want to be harsh. I'll read your post on health, even if the premises seem strange, as I wrote. The truth is something, its advantages/disadvantages are another. I made the distinction on my post, leaving the consequences for last.

I think you would agree that the so-called "waves" (of course, no empirical evidence on them...) can't explain why something that you say are a simple receptor (the brain) can in the end affect not only the transmission but also its author, the "soul".

For me that doesn't make sense. Is even absurd because it seems that every time the brain blacks out the "soul" immediately goes out and don't have any recollection of that period, without any relevant exceptions.

I guess it must be a coincidence. Wink

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Why are you such an asshole that you have to start every post with something equivalent to, "you are stupid so let me explain it to you"? (Way to represent christianity in a negative light asshole... WWJD motherfucker?)
I guess I have to go along with St. Paul in 2 Corinthians 11:19-21 where he says when he talks to the Corinthian church: "19 You gladly put up with fools since you are so wise! 20 In fact, you even put up with anyone who enslaves you or exploits you or takes advantage of you or pushes himself forward or slaps you in the face. 21 To my shame I admit that we were too weak for that!"


1) Evolution does not design anything... you don't understand what evolution is
Natural selection is the process of taking on a design and implementing it.


B) Evolution is based on 2 simple principles... random changes, both good and bad... and natural selection/survival of the fittest, which weeds out (most) of the bad traits, leaving mostly good traits
Cause and effect is all around us, readily visible in everything. Randomness has not been proven, and even the theories that try to show that it exists are very shaky. You talk about "random" in a religious way, just like you talk about evolution. The least you could do is talk about evolution in a scientific way by saying that evolution has not been proven to have caused the things that exist to have come into being.


This does not mean that there are no bad traits, like colorblindness for example... 8% of men are colorblind, yet it's not bad enough to be 0%...

How does colorblindness fit into God creating perfect humans?
Two possible points about colorblindness:
1. The devil tricked Adam and Eve into becoming imperfect, and colorblindness is one of the ways that imperfection manifests itself;
2. Just as people have always had limits - including Adam and Eve - perhaps colorblindness was one of those limits, and existed as an exercise for people to overcome. We, outside of perfection now, have simply forgotten how to exercise the things that would overcome colorblindness.


Homosexuality is the same thing... it doesn't help survival, but its really not enough of a hindrance to weed it out of the population...
Homosexual tendencies exist among the many tendencies that people have. The tendencies are not wrong. Exercising them is. Homosexuality doesn't fit nature regarding either evolution or religion.


Then, when you mix in thousands of years where gays were openly hated and murdered... they were forced into hiding, marrying women, having children, spreading their gay genes... it's really your own fault there are so many gays... if christians hadn't forced them to marry women and have children, there would be half as many homosexuals
Christians and people of other religions haven't always treated other people right. Too bad there isn't some better method to keep the corrupt homosexual practices from being taught to our children. Oh that's right. There is. Fight the tendencies.


If you didn't hate faggots so much, there would be fewer of them... the irony is thick
If faggots didn't hate themselves so much, they would resist the tendencies so that they wouldn't be put down by those who are straight.


Quote from: Eminem
Have you ever been hated or discriminated against?
I have, I've been protested and demonstrated against
Picket signs for my wicked rhymes, look at the times
Sick as the mind of the motherfucking kid that's behind
All this commotion emotions run deep as ocean's exploding
Tempers flaring from parents just blow 'em off and keep going
Not taking nothing from no one give 'em hell long as I'm breathing
Keep kicking ass in the morning and taking names in the evening
Leave 'em with a taste as sour as vinegar in they mouth
See they can trigger me, but they'll never figure me out
Look at me now, I bet ya probably sick of me now ain't you momma?
I'mma make you look so ridiculous now

Poor little Eminem.

The bottom line is, get into the Bible. Pray to God. God will help you with your problems, be they colorblindness, homosexuality, or anything else. After all, we all go to the grave. The hereafter is what counts.

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