[ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts

[kamidela]

Huge DUMP..

[ReturnBits]

Founds these gems, maybe someone already linked them in here idk. Looks like some pretty shady stuff.
http://cointimes.tech/2016/08/12/etcdao-stolen-coins-frozen-by-exchanges-was-sent-by-ethereum-foundation-developers/
https://medium.com/@jackfru1t/the-robin-hood-group-and-etc-bdc6a0c111c3#.11vz9mho8

[greenuser]

Huge DUMP..

What goes up must come down.  
These are the markets of fringe science.  
This is an experimental project.
 
Do not invest more than you can afford to lose.  
Do not trade on emotions.
Have a more scientific/mathmatical appraoch with your trading.
This coin can swing +/-10 to 20% in price each day.
Do not trade with a loaded gun in the room.

Trade Gold or forex if you want quick profit.
There are no get rich quck schemes here.

[greenuser]

Founds these gems, maybe someone already linked them in here idk. Looks like some pretty shady stuff.
http://cointimes.tech/2016/08/12/etcdao-stolen-coins-frozen-by-exchanges-was-sent-by-ethereum-foundation-developers/
https://medium.com/@jackfru1t/the-robin-hood-group-and-etc-bdc6a0c111c3#.11vz9mho8

Yes they were posted here when they came out, like the podcast that was released this morning by Epicenter Bitcoin.
They are all very interesting.

@ReturnBits Go back and look at page 148 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.2940

[ShooterXD]

Just hold ur coins to long term guys.

Etc hás a great future coming

[kamidela]

Just hold ur coins to long term guys.

Etc hás a great future coming

Only word's hold them will not change down trend.

Tell me why i should hold them? Im holding them since the price was 3,20 dollars. And dont worry i didnt invest more then i can lose. Soo now i need something better then only HOLD THEM because of great future. Give me some facts or even what will change in next mounths or years that you know about? What will change to hold them? Give me a reason to hold them.

[suchmoon]

Just hold ur coins to long term guys.

Etc hás a great future coming

Only word's hold them will not change down trend.

Tell me why i should hold them? Im holding them since the price was 3,20 dollars. And dont worry i didnt invest more then i can lose. Soo now i need something better then only HOLD THEM because of great future. Give me some facts or even what will change in next mounths or years that you know about? What will change to hold them? Give me a reason to hold them.

I think you have it backwards. What was the reason to buy it at $3.20? If that reason is still valid you hold.

[Mouyou]

I think the most important think is the open public blockchain this public ledger which makes everyting which is owned by the public transparent, so everyone can trust each other or don't have to trust each other anymore because they only have to have trust in the blockchain (DAO) Then people can start working together to solve problemes of the public. The nice thing is that because everyone can then contribute to the DAO by explaining their individuell tansions (problemes) and find people who have similar tansions to solve them together more quick. The blockchain has made the creation of money open for everyone. In a DAO the money of the DAO is the representation of the value of the DAO and the votingpower. Every time you buy something you vote. If you buy tokens for a DAO you vote for the DAO. It would be good if everyone tries to buy things which solves their tensions. What are tensions? Tensions a relative but people can have similar tensions. It is possible to solve tensions. There are lots of different tensions the only task is to solve proplemes as efficient as possible. Erveryone should focuse on those tensions which he or she has and find other people who have similare tansions to solve them. it is like a game. This DAO (kind of crowdfunding, social media plattform)  has different rules, like every game, which says for example, that every Solution for the tension has to be good for the enviroment and the people  or shouldn't harm the people and the enviroment. The purpose of this plattform is to connect people and support them with money, infrastructure, contacts etc.. Because this plattform is owned by those who solve proplemes which are good for the people and enviroment, because those people will get DAOtokens from other people to solve their common tensions (for example cleaning the beach, electric cars, education etc.) So the money (ownership of the DAO) will always go to those people who help the people and enviroment. The DAO Tokens have a fix ammount and a negative interest. The negative interest is there so people don't hold lage ammounts of money. People invest their money so they don't lose money. The money should be always in circulation. The higher the negative interest the higher the circulation speed of the money within the system. There hast to be a good balance between the negative interest rate for example 5% per year, similar to www.freico.in
"Freicoin introduces the concept of a small holding fee, called demurrage, to virtual currencies. Currency owners automatically pay this fee. This promotes currency circulation and encourages sustainable investments. This fee, 5% per year, re-enters the economy through miners who use a large portion of it to pay for operating costs."

Charles Hoskinson Tells Us Why He Is 100% ETC
http://www.ethnews.com/charles-hoskinson-tells-us-why-he-is-100-etc

Freicoin has a "Foundation". It means a group of control, like Ethereum. Not neutral. Money should be morally neutral, not good or bad, but neutral. And not controlled by any group. Run away from any coin with a "Foundation".

I agree. I think the Organisation is the Foundation and everyone who is willing to accept a role will be part of the organisation. The structure of this DAO is similar to HolacracyOne https://app.glassfrog.com/organizations/5
http://www.holacracy.org/how-it-works/

[Sanguintan]

Just hold ur coins to long term guys.

Etc hás a great future coming

Only word's hold them will not change down trend.

Tell me why i should hold them? Im holding them since the price was 3,20 dollars. And dont worry i didnt invest more then i can lose. Soo now i need something better then only HOLD THEM because of great future. Give me some facts or even what will change in next mounths or years that you know about? What will change to hold them? Give me a reason to hold them.

You are right. There are not many developers supporting the ETC at the moment. And the development will cost a lot of money.

[whenbuyhouse]

I want to buy cheap ETC, let it drops more.    My pocket is ready.   

[ShooterXD]

Just hold ur coins to long term guys.

Etc hás a great future coming

Only word's hold them will not change down trend.

Tell me why i should hold them? Im holding them since the price was 3,20 dollars. And dont worry i didnt invest more then i can lose. Soo now i need something better then only HOLD THEM because of great future. Give me some facts or even what will change in next mounths or years that you know about? What will change to hold them? Give me a reason to hold them.

You are right. There are not many developers supporting the ETC at the moment. And the development will cost a lot of money.

Lol, not many dev, but, they Delivery good things, and what a good dev for u?

Hardforkers like vitalik or in the next week devs like Sasha?

If ure unhappy, sell ur coins and keep walking

[greenuser]

This coin has an immutable blockchain.  It is secure.  It has all the function of ETH but without the centralized governance.  It is controlled by 700GH/s of mining, 700 slack members, 100 volunteer coders and 12  developers employed currently by Charles (but eventualy by the network via smart contract). See progress here https://trello.com/etcdev
Just think people, this tech will have the ability to employ people.  It will always be mined and is very secure.  Its popular in Russia, China, Korea, USA, UK.  

I'm sure the devs could knock something up quick to keep the traders happy but NO.  Stuff will come out when it has been proven to work.

We have wallets with replay protection, a node that is unforked chain only & no flags and an explorer

[kamidela]

Just hold ur coins to long term guys.

Etc hás a great future coming

Only word's hold them will not change down trend.

Tell me why i should hold them? Im holding them since the price was 3,20 dollars. And dont worry i didnt invest more then i can lose. Soo now i need something better then only HOLD THEM because of great future. Give me some facts or even what will change in next mounths or years that you know about? What will change to hold them? Give me a reason to hold them.

You are right. There are not many developers supporting the ETC at the moment. And the development will cost a lot of money.

Lol, not many dev, but, they Delivery good things, and what a good dev for u?

Hardforkers like vitalik or in the next week devs like Sasha?

If ure unhappy, sell ur coins and keep walking

Your coins? Are you kidding me   Im just asking what will change in next months with this coin? What is the plan, options..? And this is your anwser? If you are not happy (sell and keep walking)? =)   We are all here with same reason. We believe in ETC and most important we all looking for some PROFIT. Meybe  you are the only one who is preapered to trow his money away (nothing wrong with that), but for me im looking for some kind of profit short term or long term doesnt metter. All we want to know is what is going on around here now. Nobody say nothing lataly.. So, i will ask again? Is there any real option to get support or even good investors? We have HS growing, but believe me minners will stop minning if the price will be so low as now.. Soo yeah still holdiing ETC's and waiting for some good news.

For you is meybe time to get serious here, and stop telling people to sell their coins. Meybe will be better to start informing them, why they should buy them.

[greenuser]

Just hold ur coins to long term guys.

Etc hás a great future coming

Only word's hold them will not change down trend.

Tell me why i should hold them? Im holding them since the price was 3,20 dollars. And dont worry i didnt invest more then i can lose. Soo now i need something better then only HOLD THEM because of great future. Give me some facts or even what will change in next mounths or years that you know about? What will change to hold them? Give me a reason to hold them.

You are right. There are not many developers supporting the ETC at the moment. And the development will cost a lot of money.

Lol, not many dev, but, they Delivery good things, and what a good dev for u?

Hardforkers like vitalik or in the next week devs like Sasha?

If ure unhappy, sell ur coins and keep walking

Your coins? Are you kidding me   Im just asking what will change in next months with this coin? What is the plan, options..? And this is your anwser? If you are not happy (sell and keep walking)? =)   We are all here with same reason. We believe in ETC and most important we all looking for some PROFIT. Meybe  you are the only one who is preapered to trow his money away (nothing wrong with that), but for me im looking for some kind of profit short term or long term doesnt metter. All we want to know is what is going on around here now. Nobody say nothing lataly.. So, i will ask again? Is there any real option to get support or even good investors? We have HS growing, but believe me minners will stop minning if the price will be so low as now.. Soo yeah still holdiing ETC's and waiting for some good news.

For you is meybe time to get serious here, and stop telling people to sell their coins. Meybe will be better to start informing them, why they should by them.

You are not here for info, you want to squable.  I answered your questions on the last post i made, yet you engauge with someone who gives you a throwaway comment?  Who are you?

This coin has an immutable blockchain.  It is secure.  It has all the function of ETH but without the centralized governance.  It is controlled by 700GH/s of mining, 700 slack members, 100 volunteer coders and 12  developers employed currently by Charles (but eventualy by the network via smart contract). See progress here https://trello.com/etcdev
Just think people, this tech will have the ability to employ people.  It will always be mined and is very secure.  Its popular in Russia, China, Korea, USA, UK.  

I'm sure the devs could knock something up quick to keep the traders happy but NO.  Stuff will come out when it has been proven to work.

We have wallets with replay protection, a node that is unforked chain only & no flags
and an explorer, all in less than a month

[greenuser]

This has just been posted on Slack

Quote:-

As you all know tomorrow is the first ETC Kickoff Meet Up, and it will be a big one. Thank you to all the people here who have contributed to making this happen.The format of the event is as follows:

Location: Eversheds LLP, Headoffice, 1 Wood Street, St Pauls, EC2V 7WS  LONDON

7:00 - 7:30pm, Presentation: Ethereum Classic, Past, Present and Future,

7:30 - 8:30pm, Panel Event: Discussion on The Future of Blockchain and Smart Contracts in Light of The DAO Hack and the Hard Fork.

Overview of discussion:
1. Views on DAO's for automating business and legal processes
2. Philosophical question about human intervention after a smart contract is deployed
3. The DAO hard fork, what are panel's thoughts?
4. What are the standard procedures to re-appropriate stolen money in a traditional financial services scenario?
5. Could a similar legal approach have been used to stop the DAO hacker accessing/using assets?
6. "Ethics" of immutability and its limitations with centralised interests.
7. On the ETC chain the funds are still in the hands of the hacker and RHG/Polo, could a similar legal approach discussed earlier be used here now?
8. What important controls could be put in place to help manage risks of hackings on future DAOs?
9. Considering how the legal and regulatory framework copes with financial crime, what are panel views on whether or not existing framework can be adapted for an immutable blockchain or whether or not a new framework needs to be created, because immutable its is the future?
10. Closing comments

8:30 - 9pm, Drinks and Networking Panel of senior finance, legal, regulatory and tech specialists will be ok the panel.

We will release details for streaming. Also we can have interactivity with slack channel here, So if anyone has questions they can post live to the panel.
End Quote

For people wanting to join slack i will find more info,  However, i will be posting questions and am open to ideas of what to ask

[kamidela]

Just hold ur coins to long term guys.

Etc hás a great future coming

Only word's hold them will not change down trend.

Tell me why i should hold them? Im holding them since the price was 3,20 dollars. And dont worry i didnt invest more then i can lose. Soo now i need something better then only HOLD THEM because of great future. Give me some facts or even what will change in next mounths or years that you know about? What will change to hold them? Give me a reason to hold them.

You are right. There are not many developers supporting the ETC at the moment. And the development will cost a lot of money.

Lol, not many dev, but, they Delivery good things, and what a good dev for u?

Hardforkers like vitalik or in the next week devs like Sasha?

If ure unhappy, sell ur coins and keep walking

Your coins? Are you kidding me   Im just asking what will change in next months with this coin? What is the plan, options..? And this is your anwser? If you are not happy (sell and keep walking)? =)   We are all here with same reason. We believe in ETC and most important we all looking for some PROFIT. Meybe  you are the only one who is preapered to trow his money away (nothing wrong with that), but for me im looking for some kind of profit short term or long term doesnt metter. All we want to know is what is going on around here now. Nobody say nothing lataly.. So, i will ask again? Is there any real option to get support or even good investors? We have HS growing, but believe me minners will stop minning if the price will be so low as now.. Soo yeah still holdiing ETC's and waiting for some good news.

For you is meybe time to get serious here, and stop telling people to sell their coins. Meybe will be better to start informing them, why they should by them.

You are not here for info, you want to squable.  I answered your questions on the last post i made, yet you engauge with someone who gives you a throwaway comment?  Who are you?

This coin has an immutable blockchain.  It is secure.  It has all the function of ETH but without the centralized governance.  It is controlled by 700GH/s of mining, 700 slack members, 100 volunteer coders and 12  developers employed currently by Charles (but eventualy by the network via smart contract). See progress here https://trello.com/etcdev
Just think people, this tech will have the ability to employ people.  It will always be mined and is very secure.  Its popular in Russia, China, Korea, USA, UK.  

I'm sure the devs could knock something up quick to keep the traders happy but NO.  Stuff will come out when it has been proven to work.

We have wallets with replay protection, a node that is unforked chain only & no flags
and an explorer, all in less than a month

Thanks for that info mate. I didnt want to be rude or anything, but you know how it i in crypto world. Up and downs are something normal, but i was just waiting for some info. Im still holding them becase i believe in ETC, but i just want to know how the things are going here. I see big improvement as you said, and i am more calm now. I invested in ETC because i believe in it. As you see i have almost 50% loss already and im still holding them. I could sell them manny times already but i didnt just because of that. I just dont want to lose all ( if i have to i will), without any infos. Thanks for those upgrades and im happy that the thing are moving in to right direction. Also thanks for link. And dont worry, i hope i will buy more of them soon. 

[kamidela]

Ok right now someone is dumping ETC's for ETH, and then Buying BTC with ETH's.. on Poloniex. Buy orders are mostly the same. Any news about that?

[bitcoinbs]

anyone can explain me the difference in both etc and eth. which chain is secure

[ShooterXD]

Fuders gonna fud like haters gonna hate.

Just one thing, thx dumpers for make easy buy!

[suchmoon]

anyone can explain me the difference in both etc and eth. which chain is secure

ETH is the chain that forked and modified the blockchain to bail out a bad contract (google "the DAO hack" for details).

ETC is the original ETH chain that did not accept the fork and left the DAO hack in place (hence the immutable smart contracts as per the thread's title).