Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments

[bobvidz]

Please i need to know how many Gigabytes i will get by linking a wallet with 100 btc in the next full moon distrubiton MAY 10th.
i understand that it is 62.5 MB but how much exactly in gigabytes which is now worth almost 100 USD.

Is it worth it to spend time linking and keeping BTC to get involved, or should i just buy GIGABYTES?

[OrsonJ]

Quote from: alexxynn on April 12, 2017, 04:43:31 PM
Quote from: naska21 on April 12, 2017, 02:48:57 PM
Quote from: illlefr4u on April 12, 2017, 12:51:28 PM
please tell me, after you run now gives "uncaught by exception: the Error: bad 3CxaZ7izNbFjbif9O8bSmKbtXK6RDEbdKuoBmnnig1s known =:
3CxaZ7izNbFjbif9O8bSmKbtXK6RDEbdKuoBmnnig1s =:
for last ball unit
Hk4mmx + Uu9ZlSIVt7zEmUDvSHxKlV5A / PgiZ ck20s // = is not stable in view of your parents The
2YQAkDd2EpzpVLxmxxSsvxLG5SVyElAbdsLSVrABaUU =, of Pg"

has only an OK button after which the client is closed.
There is a possibility somehow siphoned all blokcheyn without losing their bytes?

Thank you




I sent anything before that? and the client a full?

I have a similar situation,
the full client is not sent anything

And I thought, on the basis of "Hk4mmx + Uu9ZlSIVt7zEmUDvSHxKlV5A / PgiZ // ck20s = is not stable in view of your parents"

stumbled on a strange spike in the graph. Well I just went for a light

Translated the above from the Russian thread. Same issue here. Has anyone else had this problem or does anyone know a fix? Tried restoring from backup but eventually the same thing happened. Using 1.7.0 on Linux. Thanks in advance.

[HomoHenning]

Please i need to know how many Gigabytes i will get by linking a wallet with 100 btc in the next full moon distrubiton MAY 10th.
i understand that it is 62.5 MB but how much exactly in gigabytes which is now worth almost 100 USD.

Is it worth it to spend time linking and keeping BTC to get involved, or should i just buy GIGABYTES?

Should be ~ 6 GB. linking is very easy. just sign a message

[pockets1989]

Is it safe to change the hub to byteball.fr??  I would like to see how tonych feels about this just curious and I am all for decentralization of witnesses but how does the community decides if a witness is trustworthy?

My opinion, we have to give some support to guys who run witness nodes right now, because they are bleeding their own bytes, and it is so important to decentralize the network.

Can you explain how they are bleeding their own bytes?  Is this in the case of the hub or witness?  Sorry Im new to all this

[ByteFan]

Is it safe to change the hub to byteball.fr??  I would like to see how tonych feels about this just curious and I am all for decentralization of witnesses but how does the community decides if a witness is trustworthy?

It is (but you might not beleive me). Tonych has lists alternaive hubs in the first annouce post (among which is byteball.fr).

[D3m0nKinGx]

Please i need to know how many Gigabytes i will get by linking a wallet with 100 btc in the next full moon distrubiton MAY 10th.
i understand that it is 62.5 MB but how much exactly in gigabytes which is now worth almost 100 USD.

Is it worth it to spend time linking and keeping BTC to get involved, or should i just buy GIGABYTES?

Should be ~ 6 GB. linking is very easy. just sign a message

Linking 100 BTC = 6.25 GB from Distribution

To get the same amount by owning Gbytes in your wallet you would need:

62.5 GBytes = 5.5 BTC (approx at current market price (.087 btc last price on trex)

Buying Gbytes gets your more at distribution time than linking

[CryptKeeper]

First Easter Egg found: https://twitter.com/CryptKeeperBTT/status/852766380013215745

But where was the easter egg?

Follow the big red arrow 

[CryptKeeper]

Find one of 5 Byteball Easter Eggs,
each worth 1 GB ($80-$100):
https://youtu.be/uWTTLfclSF0

First Easter Egg found: https://twitter.com/CryptKeeperBTT/status/852766380013215745

Still 4 more eggs to find!
And please follow the rules as shown in the video.

[SatoNatomato]

Is it safe to change the hub to byteball.fr??  I would like to see how tonych feels about this just curious and I am all for decentralization of witnesses but how does the community decides if a witness is trustworthy?

My opinion, we have to give some support to guys who run witness nodes right now, because they are bleeding their own bytes, and it is so important to decentralize the network.

Can you explain how they are bleeding their own bytes?  Is this in the case of the hub or witness?  Sorry Im new to all this

Witnesses make transactions and that costs just as any tx, if the witness isnt chosen by many in the network, itll loose more than it earns.

I see commits which add a dependency to google service, for the push notifications, not good for privacy, but have to check more.

[tonych]

@tonych

The initial_witnesses array is used only when your hub starts for the first time.  

It seems complicated to have witnesses diversity to emerge unless some major industry player claims he is running a witness and asks for adoption. Although the project adoption looks going well it may take some time for this to come.

In the meantime, I beleive we should start to show that the network relies on community independant operated witnesses for at least a portion of the 12 default list (my personnal opinion is 6 over 12).

On the project side: I think it is really important for the mass adoption that independant witnesses now show up (would later be spontaneously replaced by thoses of notorious captain of industry when they come in) to guarantee witnessing diversity.

On the candidate witness side: unless validating, candidate witnesses are just bleeding byte. It comes, soon or later, quite frustrating and leads to discouraging skilled volunteers.

As you know, together with a hub service to the community, I am operating a witness at MEJGDND55XNON7UU3ZKERJIZMMXJTVCV

Would you agree on setting up this witness as a default in byteball.org/bb and in the conf.js files on Github as a first step to diversity? (I personnaly choosed to replace the 12th one starting by UENJ)


Please take a couple of minutes to think about it.

It is great that you are getting expertise running nodes, but we need well-known trusted people/orgs as witnesses.

There is no such requirement for running hubs, and I'm happy to see the hub network decentralized.

[tonych]

First DAG coin

This reminded me about

I'm still not convinced that Byteball is a pure DAG coin, to prove my position I would need to generate a lot of transactions on Byteball network to show that in certain conditions (related to DAG topology) TPS growth is negatively impacted by necessity to pick the main chain. If you compared Ethereum (which calls itself blockchain) and Byteball you would see that they don't differ much:

If you looked at IOTA you would see this:

I'm not interested enough to make sure that my assumption is correct, but you could help by generating a lot of transactions and posting here the topology of the resulting Byteball DAG. Try 10 TPS on the testnet maybe?

Not sure if tonych thinks that I'm trolling so he ignores the question or he doesn't feel himself comfortable to be involved into a dispute regarding that issue. Anyway, a run on testnet would give some ballpark numbers on Byteball scalability potential thus giving 50% of the answer.

I saw these pictures 2 or 3 times before but it's still unclear what you want to know?

[OXUS]

what was ico price for byteball

[Come-from-Beyond]

I saw these pictures 2 or 3 times before but it's still unclear what you want to know?

Why Byteball is a DAG-coin, not a chain-coin.
- GHOST protocol gives a similar topology of blocks and if we have only 1 transaction per block then there is no difference in first order approximation.
- The whitepaper tells about ordering and the main chain.
- There is no publicly available information on transactions topology in high TPS mode (this would show if Byteball utilizes high scalability granted by a DAG).

[mobnepal]

what was ico price for byteball

There was no ICO for byteball it is being distributed fairly among all bitcoin holders. You can just link your bitcoin address and you will get byteball corresponding to your balance in that address during end of current distribution cycle which is 10th may.

[ByteFan]

Is it safe to change the hub to byteball.fr??  I would like to see how tonych feels about this just curious and I am all for decentralization of witnesses but how does the community decides if a witness is trustworthy?

My opinion, we have to give some support to guys who run witness nodes right now, because they are bleeding their own bytes, and it is so important to decentralize the network.

Can you explain how they are bleeding their own bytes?  Is this in the case of the hub or witness?  Sorry Im new to all this

Witnesses spent bytes by unconditional serial posting to themselves (and need to pay for that). Hubs don't.

[D3m0nKinGx]

I saw these pictures 2 or 3 times before but it's still unclear what you want to know?

Why Byteball is a DAG-coin, not a chain-coin.
- GHOST protocol gives a similar topology of blocks and if we have only 1 transaction per block then there is no difference in first order approximation.
- The whitepaper tells about ordering and the main chain.
- There is no publicly available information on transactions topology in high TPS mode (this would show if Byteball utilizes high scalability granted by a DAG).

Start an issue on github if you have something to back this up with, and work it out with the dev through official channels.... github being one of the most direct way to go about it

[mcfom]

Nice volume on bittrex this is sign of the new era. Byteball is heading to the moon I hope so $100 is an easy mark to achieve there. This amazing coin will get listed on more bigger exchanges very soon.

[tonych]

I saw these pictures 2 or 3 times before but it's still unclear what you want to know?

Why Byteball is a DAG-coin, not a chain-coin.

Well, it's hard not to see DAG in Byteball design.

- GHOST protocol gives a similar topology of blocks and if we have only 1 transaction per block then there is no difference in first order approximation.

And what?  Of course, there are edge cases.  And I didn't invent DAG if you want me to admit that

- The whitepaper tells about ordering and the main chain.

And?

- There is no publicly available information on transactions topology in high TPS mode (this would show if Byteball utilizes high scalability granted by a DAG).

Any reasons to believe the topology will be in some way "wrong" in high TPS mode?

[Come-from-Beyond]

Start an issue on github if you have something to back this up with, and work it out with the dev through official channels.... github being one of the most direct way to go about it

I just need an answer. Any answer I could just link people to.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Well, it's hard not to see DAG in Byteball design.

It's also seen in Ethereum design, any idea why they call themselves "chain", not "DAG"?

- GHOST protocol gives a similar topology of blocks and if we have only 1 transaction per block then there is no difference in first order approximation.

And what?  Of course, there are edge cases.  And I didn't invent DAG if you want me to admit that

- The whitepaper tells about ordering and the main chain.

And?

I just mentioned things which point toward "chain", not "DAG".

- There is no publicly available information on transactions topology in high TPS mode (this would show if Byteball utilizes high scalability granted by a DAG).

Any reasons to believe the topology will be in some way "wrong" in high TPS mode?

Yes. I suspect the ordering will slow everything down significantly. Is it hard to run a test?