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October 09, 2013, 03:15:59 AM |
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Just received my third Jupiter (Australia). to give some indication on order #/payment date Order #: 10XX - Payment Date: 6/5/13 - Ship Date: Oct 3rd - Received Date: Oct 8th Order #: 10XX - Payment Date: 6/5/13 - Ship Date: Oct 3rd - Received Date: Oct 8th Order #: 14XX - Payment Date: 6/10/13 - Ship Date: Oct 4th - Received Date: Oct 9th I was in 1-500 group for a very low order # in that initial range prior to actual orders. Edit: Also in regards to condition after about 8 different stops on their journey, total 'damage' 1 fan fallen off  So, since you were in the 1-500 group, then KnC adjusted for refunds and non-payments which put your orders in the greater than 1000 range, one might assume they added 1000 to the order numbers, and now no order number is less than 1000? If they did ship 1400 orders in 7 days, they match BFL's predicted output rate of 200(units)/day. |
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timmmers
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October 09, 2013, 03:36:49 AM |
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Ok, thanks. No idea what the hold up is on getting these out. The silence from them is deafening.
I think it's simple. They didn't have a realistic idea of production times, never done it before. The "hashing within hours" for hosted rigs always sounded silly to me for example..if all went well they'd have to set up hundreds of machines from scratch, simple stuff like unpacking, checking for loose stuff, physically moving them to their correct rack and that kind of stuff takes time. Same goes for hosting, maybe they estimated the time that would take wrongly..should have started earlier? Add a few bad chips or other problems that need sorting individually...to find the good and bad...and it all gangs up on you to put you behind. It's the old piss poor planning idiom at the end of the day. There's more to selling products than getting one rig working quickly and flooding the web with yourself backslapping and celebrating. The guy going to pick up his rig and not being allowed to go and get it at the facility spoke volumes to me, if that were my place and I was proud of the performance and set up I'd be inviting such a customer to come and get his rig and report back on how well it was going. My guess is that he'd have found several headless chickens if he went so they packed him off home pissed off and rigless...to save face. The delays are part of production and understandable, the lies and silence..they are not. I wish they'd sent one of the cgminer devs a rig, even a Mercury would have done, instead of that couple in the documentary. We'd maybe be in a happier place now. |
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sbfree
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October 09, 2013, 03:50:24 AM |
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I appreciate what knc has accomplished
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I appreciate what timmmers says above
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sbfree
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October 09, 2013, 03:53:43 AM |
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also, we should be grateful for the stage that knc/we are at....from what i was told in regards to a bitfury unit, the chinese are partying it up and this has caused a one week delay....
was told the same about a health product made in china, that is has been delayed due to chinese festivities....
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timmmers
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October 09, 2013, 04:00:15 AM |
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Yeah, they are making an honest effort, it's probably hard for them to admit basic things went/ are going wrong. Shit timing for us who have exact dates in our heads which we really shouldn't expect from a small company doing this on the fly for the 1st time. Could be a lot worse , we all know that  |
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frankenmint
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October 09, 2013, 04:06:15 AM |
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Exactly.... Engineers, not front line shipping managers. Killing things compared to bfl and Avalon so far. No reasons to really complain (yet)
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timmmers
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October 09, 2013, 04:10:57 AM |
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Exactly.... Engineers, not front line shipping managers. Killing things compared to bfl and Avalon so far. No reasons to really complain (yet)
The thing I really can't understand is why, with millions in hand in the bank, they didn't just hire a guy that was a logistics specialist? Short term contract, a few grand. That way they get to concentrate on the things they are expert on. Same for hosting. Save such a lot of hassle and learn for the future. |
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arousedrhino
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October 09, 2013, 04:18:39 AM |
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36HRS "IN PROGRESS"
no shipping info. yet.
maybe it's really coming from Saturn.~?
Don't get your hopes up, Im at 80 hours in progress, still not shipped. I think they may have stopped production due to the fires. Has anyone reported a shipped miner today or yesterday? |
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OmegaNemesis28
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October 09, 2013, 04:20:09 AM |
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I dont know about this whole 'they didnt realize production time' thing.
They made multiple statements up to the very end when they started and announced they were shipping 'all orders by October 15th" correct me if I'm wrong. Even at the very last second they stood by that. And to my knowledge, Jupiters and Saturns aren't caught up yet alone Mercuries.
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thomashrev89
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October 09, 2013, 04:37:23 AM |
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36HRS "IN PROGRESS"
no shipping info. yet.
maybe it's really coming from Saturn.~?
Don't get your hopes up, Im at 80 hours in progress, still not shipped. I think they may have stopped production due to the fires. Has anyone reported a shipped miner today or yesterday? I am on my way now to pick up mine. |
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sbfree
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October 09, 2013, 04:37:55 AM |
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36HRS "IN PROGRESS"
no shipping info. yet.
maybe it's really coming from Saturn.~?
Don't get your hopes up, Im at 80 hours in progress, still not shipped. I think they may have stopped production due to the fires. Has anyone reported a shipped miner today or yesterday? arousedrhino, what was your order#/pay date, please? thanks. |
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sbfree
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October 09, 2013, 04:38:57 AM |
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36HRS "IN PROGRESS"
no shipping info. yet.
maybe it's really coming from Saturn.~?
Don't get your hopes up, Im at 80 hours in progress, still not shipped. I think they may have stopped production due to the fires. Has anyone reported a shipped miner today or yesterday? I am on my way now to pick up mine. thomashrev89, hey you are picking up in person? also what was your order#/pay date? |
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Paladin69
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October 09, 2013, 04:43:35 AM |
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Exactly.... Engineers, not front line shipping managers. Killing things compared to bfl and Avalon so far. No reasons to really complain (yet)
The thing I really can't understand is why, with millions in hand in the bank, they didn't just hire a guy that was a logistics specialist? Short term contract, a few grand. That way they get to concentrate on the things they are expert on. Same for hosting. Save such a lot of hassle and learn for the future. It really is a shame. Especially when they said they knew time was everything in this business. Somebody, somewhere cheapened out again. Yes still way ahead of BFL but it is coming down to the wire now where one month delays are catastrophic. We can't afford the type of delays BFL put us through anymore otherwise we should all just hang up our hats. Things are going to get really ugly by November, December and beyond. |
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thomashrev89
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October 09, 2013, 04:45:26 AM |
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36HRS "IN PROGRESS"
no shipping info. yet.
maybe it's really coming from Saturn.~?
Don't get your hopes up, Im at 80 hours in progress, still not shipped. I think they may have stopped production due to the fires. Has anyone reported a shipped miner today or yesterday? I am on my way now to pick up mine. thomashrev89, hey you are picking up in person? also what was your order#/pay date? In person yes. #10x paid on friday the week of release. |
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sbfree
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October 09, 2013, 04:52:42 AM |
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36HRS "IN PROGRESS"
no shipping info. yet.
maybe it's really coming from Saturn.~?
Don't get your hopes up, Im at 80 hours in progress, still not shipped. I think they may have stopped production due to the fires. Has anyone reported a shipped miner today or yesterday? I am on my way now to pick up mine. thomashrev89, hey you are picking up in person? also what was your order#/pay date? In person yes. #10x paid on friday the week of release. just not sure what to think of the shipping queue....waiting it is. |
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arousedrhino
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October 09, 2013, 04:55:02 AM |
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36HRS "IN PROGRESS"
no shipping info. yet.
maybe it's really coming from Saturn.~?
Don't get your hopes up, Im at 80 hours in progress, still not shipped. I think they may have stopped production due to the fires. Has anyone reported a shipped miner today or yesterday? arousedrhino, what was your order#/pay date, please? thanks. Preorder Queue# 51XX Signed up for that on June 2nd. Order# 58X placed on June 3rd. Payment via PayPal complete June 5th. Shipping to the West coast of the USA. |
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timmmers
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October 09, 2013, 04:59:41 AM |
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Exactly.... Engineers, not front line shipping managers. Killing things compared to bfl and Avalon so far. No reasons to really complain (yet)
The thing I really can't understand is why, with millions in hand in the bank, they didn't just hire a guy that was a logistics specialist? Short term contract, a few grand. That way they get to concentrate on the things they are expert on. Same for hosting. Save such a lot of hassle and learn for the future. It really is a shame. Especially when they said they knew time was everything in this business. Somebody, somewhere cheapened out again. Yes still way ahead of BFL but it is coming down to the wire now where one month delays are catastrophic. We can't afford the type of delays BFL put us through anymore otherwise we should all just hang up our hats. Things are going to get really ugly by November, December and beyond. Agreed. People compare everything to BFL, but that's like saying Saddam was a good guy 'cos he didn't murder as many people are Hitler. |
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October 09, 2013, 05:02:38 AM |
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Exactly.... Engineers, not front line shipping managers. Killing things compared to bfl and Avalon so far. No reasons to really complain (yet)
The thing I really can't understand is why, with millions in hand in the bank, they didn't just hire a guy that was a logistics specialist? Short term contract, a few grand. That way they get to concentrate on the things they are expert on. Same for hosting. Save such a lot of hassle and learn for the future. It really is a shame. Especially when they said they knew time was everything in this business. Somebody, somewhere cheapened out again. Yes still way ahead of BFL but it is coming down to the wire now where one month delays are catastrophic. We can't afford the type of delays BFL put us through anymore otherwise we should all just hang up our hats. Things are going to get really ugly by November, December and beyond. Agreed. People compare everything to BFL, but that's like saying Saddam was a good guy 'cos he didn't murder as many people are Hitler. ding ding ding "we have a winner"....(or proof this conversation has gone on too long as per link below) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_lawheh Godwin's law proves that humans are "funny creatures" at least in arguments |
Old Style Legacy Plug & Play BBS System. Get it from www.synchro.net. Updated 1/1/2021. It also works with Windows 10 and likely 11 and allows 16 bit DOS game doors on the same Win 10 Machine in Multi-Node! Five Minute Install! Look it over it uninstalls just as fast, if you simply want to look it over. Freeware! Full BBS System! It is a frigging hoot!:) |
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October 09, 2013, 05:03:36 AM |
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I will be there to buy your hardware for pennies on the dollar if you tried to roi and failed catastrophicly to feed my ppc habit or even Newfound sht coin habit. Just wait till December if knc follows through: they will forever have earned more renown than gen1 basic vendors in my book.
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October 09, 2013, 05:06:44 AM |
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Exactly.... Engineers, not front line shipping managers. Killing things compared to bfl and Avalon so far. No reasons to really complain (yet)
The thing I really can't understand is why, with millions in hand in the bank, they didn't just hire a guy that was a logistics specialist? Short term contract, a few grand. That way they get to concentrate on the things they are expert on. Same for hosting. Save such a lot of hassle and learn for the future. It really is a shame. Especially when they said they knew time was everything in this business. Somebody, somewhere cheapened out again. Yes still way ahead of BFL but it is coming down to the wire now where one month delays are catastrophic. We can't afford the type of delays BFL put us through anymore otherwise we should all just hang up our hats. Things are going to get really ugly by November, December and beyond. Agreed. People compare everything to BFL, but that's like saying Saddam was a good guy 'cos he didn't murder as many people are Hitler. ding ding ding "we have a winner"....(or proof this conversation has gone on too long as per link below) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_lawheh Godwin's law proves that humans are "funny creatures" at least in arguments Learned my new thing for the day |
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