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October 10, 2013, 10:22:31 AM
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Why only 4 VRM's on each board now  Huh
How many VRM's do you guys have on your boards?


what exactly is that?
any photos to see it/

The Voltage Regulator Modules.  The 8 (or 4) silver  rectangular modules around the ASIC that get VERY hot. Initially were 8 now only 4. Did KnC explain why already? I might have missed it.

no but my guess is just that .they we're not needed and they did get "hot"

just a guess thou

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Answered here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg3309204#msg3309204
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Applied to VRMs Wink

EDIT: By the way, when talking about diff increase, remember that KnC equipment is also contributing. So if your equipment hasn't got delivered yet, then the difficulty will be proportionally lower. Don't put too much store by all those calcs.

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October 10, 2013, 10:29:30 AM
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EDIT: By the way, when talking about diff increase, remember that KnC equipment is also contributing. So if your equipment hasn't got delivered yet, then the difficulty will be proportionally lower. Don't put too much store by all those calcs.
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I'll keep that in mind but I'm quite the "savant" on my ability to be 'incorrect" (worse case) on this ASIC MINER stuff since BFL and April (hey its a gift)

so between my track record and the calc's its a hard choice imho

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October 10, 2013, 10:30:58 AM
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in which area of order numbers we are currently? thank you!
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October 10, 2013, 10:36:35 AM
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in which area of order numbers we are currently? thank you!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=249065.0

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October 10, 2013, 10:38:05 AM
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Still on Day1 / Day 2, judging from this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=249065.0;topicseen

EDIT: Ninja'd by Frequency  Grin To add something more informative: order numbers don't play a role, payment dates do.

EDIT 2: Phoenix1969, didn't you receive your miners with 5x number? It's not reflected in the list.

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October 10, 2013, 10:43:36 AM
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I HAVE 8 I THINK AT MY BOARD
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October 10, 2013, 10:44:19 AM
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I'm thinking they're not going to be able to clear out the entire order queue in 3.5 business days as they scramble to fix firmware and hosting at the same time.

And before -redacted- accuses me of trolling, my order number is in the 26XX range, and even though I'm not in the Day 1/2 club, I still think I'm entitled to get my order at least a month before the November orders go out, with their 10% BTC discount and all.

For some reason people thought the "show" would be over when they finished the product. KnC should start offering refunds if they continue to *fail* to keep their promises, meanwhile flooding the market with a significantly cheaper product a month later.

This is getting ridiculous folks.
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October 10, 2013, 10:47:26 AM
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meeeh, KNC/Bitcoinorama, could you please clarify this?

Here you go, 24 unproductive hours with a Jupiter on p2pool  (.93 firmware) Tongue



http://i.imgur.com/DcIYr1i.png

http://i.imgur.com/Y17eq5S.png

http://i.imgur.com/mJRwRJr.png
Hmm calculation time on your picture Smiley
Elapsed = 96511s
Accepted = 7963136 1diff shares
Rejected = 166912 1diff shares
Hardware errors = 657472 1diff nonces

So Accepted hash rate is 2^32 * Accepted / Elapsed
354.4GH/s

Full hash rate (Accepted + Rejected) is 2^32 * (Accepted + Rejected) / Elapsed
361.8GH/s

Only one minor comment on those - you can only count the Rejected in the device GH/s if KnC hasn't fucked with the submit_nonce() code and also you can verify that by seeing why the shares were Rejected.
As far as I know there's been no sign of the GPL3 code as should have been given to anyone with a KnC who asks for it ... and it must have all versions of the code asked for.

Gee ... I wonder if I'll have another Kano vs GitSyncom ... what'll it be called this time ... Kano vs KFC Smiley
Nom nom.

Anyway, now for the fun numbers there ...
Hardware % = Hardware / (Accepted + Rejected + Hardware)
7.48%
which, BTW, is 29.3GH/s of hardware errors Tongue

Well at least it's less than the original 16% when they were boasting about how good it was ... lolololol

Now ... what are these things supposed to be doing?

I'm sure I saw them boasting in that video how they were doing 500GH ... how did it that boasting go ... ?
"... Back in May we promised you 250 ... well it's not 250
Then we upped it to 300 ... it's not 300
In June we said 350. We published that on the web site ... it's not 350 (tears paper in half)
In August we said 400 ... well it's not 400 (screws up the page and throws it on the floor)
We have a 500 machine here for you today and as evidence of the 500 machine we have a laptop in front of us running a full copy of cgminer.
We can see here that we are actually achieving, on average, over 500
In fact the theoretical limit is 576+
576 gigahashes a second and it's fully working and we start shipping today ..."


Interesting definition of "fully working" ...

So do you feel like telling them to go fuck themselves about the red comments for your hardware? Cheesy

I will add they failed to see that it wasn't even showing 500GH/s on the screen as I pointed out here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg3276727#msg3276727

But of course the most important point being firstly that they seem to think that cgminer showing that on the screen is all the proof they needed.
Yay cgminer Smiley

Pity they wrote the driver and fucked up cgminer's reputation ... well ... we didn't have anything to do with their driver code.
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October 10, 2013, 10:47:26 AM
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thank you!

BTW: first KnC Miner auction on Ebay Germany ;-) it is not my miner!

http://www.ebay.de/itm/281184654390?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1426.l2649
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October 10, 2013, 10:48:05 AM
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EDIT: By the way, when talking about diff increase, remember that KnC equipment is also contributing. So if your equipment hasn't got delivered yet, then the difficulty will be proportionally lower. Don't put too much store by all those calcs.


I'll keep that in mind but I'm quite the "savant" on my ability to be 'incorrect" (worse case) on this ASIC MINER stuff since BFL and April (hey its a gift)

so between my track record and the calc's its a hard choice imho

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October 10, 2013, 10:50:11 AM
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Still on Day1 / Day 2, judging from this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=249065.0;topicseen

EDIT: Ninja'd by Frequency  Grin To add something more informative: order numbers don't play a role, payment dates do.

EDIT 2: Phoenix1969, didn't you receive your miners with 5x number? It's not reflected in the list.

thank you! unfortunately KnC is not very transparent with order/payment date! :/
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October 10, 2013, 10:52:29 AM
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maybe if you put aluminium Heatsink For Motherboard DDR VGA RAM Memory IC Chipset Cooler W

is better does anyone know Huh? Wink Wink Wink Wink
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October 10, 2013, 10:57:49 AM
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But of course the most important point being firstly that they seem to think that cgminer showing that on the screen is all the proof they needed.
Yay cgminer Smiley

Pity they wrote the driver and fucked up cgminer's reputation ... well ... we didn't have anything to do with their driver code.
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This is probably a really dumb question but there is no way presently to run any other miner on KNC units but the cgminer they include....(man that's dumb)

I gather this is so or i'd see a lot more people jumping from their software?

anyway heard author of bfgminer is gonna make a version wonder if it will be part of in house project or stand alone with laptop etc


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October 10, 2013, 11:00:08 AM
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maybe if you put aluminium Heatsink For Motherboard DDR VGA RAM Memory IC Chipset Cooler W

is better does anyone know Huh? Wink Wink Wink Wink


well my only hope for the heat problem is my "Minnesota basement" ie if that won't cure the heat problem or improve gh I don' tknow what else you could do

well then someone needs to design a better fan/heatsink combo imho

if no change when cooling in the bsmt I guess that will tell us something too


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October 10, 2013, 11:01:00 AM
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I'm beginning to think that they setup a Mercury instead of a Jupiter....
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/13tPxnba6GeZEM1c7494nYtHwSHd3HzfMB



This is a hosted Jupiter that came online today.  Has anyone seen a Jupiter with 3 bad boards modules?
Do not use Eligius, I had the same problems. The miner doesn't flush the old work when asked and continues to submit them to the pool.
It seems P2Pool is also impacted.

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October 10, 2013, 11:07:17 AM
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I'm beginning to think that they setup a Mercury instead of a Jupiter....
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/13tPxnba6GeZEM1c7494nYtHwSHd3HzfMB



This is a hosted Jupiter that came online today.  Has anyone seen a Jupiter with 3 bad boards modules?
Do not use Eligius, I had the same problems. The miner doesn't flush the old work when asked and continues to submit them to the pool.
It seems P2Pool is also impacted.


how about SLUSH'S POOL anyone know or is this just across the board?

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October 10, 2013, 11:07:50 AM
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Ok so finally my order is shipped 8xx day 2 payment, and it will take only 11 days to arrive ..i am so royally, majorly and monumentally screwed .....
Man, where do you live.. Antarctica? (Or were you joking?)

Close enough (difficulty wise) ...middle east ...
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October 10, 2013, 11:14:33 AM
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So long story short...

My sexy night with Jupiter Smiley

I found the good port to the boards. Now it's hashing with about 500Ghs. But sometimes I have the FPGA issue but only one line in cgminer then it dissappears.

2 of may hash modulse runs at 81-83C. So more cooling capacity is needed for sure.

Ift the temperatue drops down from 81C to 71C the hash rate goes down. So it's a self defense I think.

I don't want to give tips but heat and something in the fpga code are the issues.

And yes, I started my run from 380-400Ghs.

Now I'll buy 4 big capacity fans wich provides high air pressure (not airflow).

But I still have to say these guys are made wonder in 4 months, thats for sure. Mistakes can found everywhere so chill down and try to solve the issues.

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October 10, 2013, 11:19:16 AM
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@edgar: Does that rant translate into 34xx? Smiley Better to keep calm and allow for some of the less tempered people being on edge and occasionally snapping. I am looking at both you and Redacted.

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October 10, 2013, 11:24:27 AM
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I'm beginning to think that they setup a Mercury instead of a Jupiter....
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/13tPxnba6GeZEM1c7494nYtHwSHd3HzfMB



This is a hosted Jupiter that came online today.  Has anyone seen a Jupiter with 3 bad boards modules?
Do not use Eligius, I had the same problems. The miner doesn't flush the old work when asked and continues to submit them to the pool.
It seems P2Pool is also impacted.


how about SLUSH'S POOL anyone know or is this just across the board?


Slush works for my jups.

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