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October 09, 2013, 01:32:07 PM
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i need more fans before it blow up

You sure got a hot one, mine is in a small room, air con off (as it never gets above 25c in the room to turn it on).


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October 09, 2013, 01:35:22 PM
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Thanks, loktang.. now if I only had my miners. Undecided

Seriously, KnC, we've trusted and supported you to the hilt over the last few months. It's time to just lay the flat truth on the table.

You've put in a monumental effort thusfar, and no one will ever forget that. But hey, it's October 9th. Please just come clean with us. Everyone will understand, whatever the case may be.

Thanks.
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October 09, 2013, 01:43:15 PM
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KNC, time to share the problems you are having. People WILL help.

You don't even have to take a hit on your ego, just word your request for help something like this:

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KNC here. We are having trouble making our flux capacitor twang the DC/DC VRM knick knack.

We know we can fix it ourselves, but in the interests of time, we are sharing the problem to the brilliant bitcoin community.

If in the next 48 hours you can help us get the flux capacitor twanger to level off at 0.8, we are offering 10BTC bounty. Pictures/readouts to follow.
---

Simple as that. Just describe the problem(s) and let us get involved! I'm sure you don't even need to offer a bounty, but it could help speed to a solution.

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October 09, 2013, 01:48:10 PM
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KNC, time to share the problems you are having. People WILL help.

You don't even have to take a hit on your ego, just word your request for help something like this:

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KNC here. We are having trouble making our flux capacitor twang the DC/DC VRM knick knack.

We know we can fix it ourselves, but in the interests of time, we are sharing the problem to the brilliant bitcoin community.

If in the next 48 hours you can help us get the flux capacitor twanger to level off at 0.8, we are offering 10BTC bounty. Pictures/readout to follow.
---

Simple as that. Just describe the problem(s) and let us get involved! I'm sure you don't even need to offer a bounty, but it could help.


Thats right! Im not angry because i still dont have ma day 2 miner. Im angry because i dont know WHY i still dont have my miner!





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October 09, 2013, 01:50:10 PM
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Hi,

We see your company is unable to fill its obligations. We can not accept change of delivery time without price compensation. You know very well how this month is important for the recovery of investment.
We do not trust your company anymore.

- we’ve done business based on September delivery
- your company lied about delivery and that it committed fraud
- your company illegally changed the delivery date without our agreement and without any compensation
- now your company is illegally holding money of our company

We ask for an immediate refund.

We are ready to publish everything and take any legal action with other companies in the same situation.

Thanks



jesus christ... delivering a few days later than communicated is not lying. an definitly not a fraud. it is not illegal to be a few days late.
when you pre-ordered you knew that you were purchasing a product that did not exist at all, not even a prototype. being a few days late after a production period of 4 months is nothing. any judge will laugh at you.

the only reasonable sentence i see is you asking for a refund. they should do that to keep you from hyperventilating.


disclaimer: i have ordered several jupiters with knc hosting and i am not amused they are still not mining. but accusations of lying and fraud and threatening with legal action is absurd.
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October 09, 2013, 01:51:47 PM
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KNC, time to share the problems you are having. People WILL help.

You don't even have to take a hit on your ego, just word your request for help something like this:

---
KNC here. We are having trouble making our flux capacitor twang the DC/DC VRM knick knack.

We know we can fix it ourselves, but in the interests of time, we are sharing the problem to the brilliant bitcoin community.

If in the next 48 hours you can help us get the flux capacitor twanger to level off at 0.8, we are offering 10BTC bounty. Pictures/readout to follow.
---

Simple as that. Just describe the problem(s) and let us get involved! I'm sure you don't even need to offer a bounty, but it could help.


Thats right! Im not angry because i still dont have ma day 2 miner. Im angry because i dont know WHY i still dont have my miner!
This is true for me too, probably everyone.

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October 09, 2013, 01:52:45 PM
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the only reasonable sentence i see is you asking for a refund. they should do that to keep you from hyperventilating.

lol
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October 09, 2013, 01:54:32 PM
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the only reasonable sentence i see is you asking for a refund. they should do that to keep you from hyperventilating.
lol

wtf does it mean ?

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October 09, 2013, 01:59:38 PM
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the only reasonable sentence i see is you asking for a refund. they should do that to keep you from hyperventilating.
lol

wtf does it mean ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperventilation_syndrome
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October 09, 2013, 02:05:08 PM
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Hey KNC/Bitcoinorama. It's time for an update.

You are still shipping orders 1-750 (or at least the first 750 units regardless of order number). The original deadline for shipping ALLLLLL units was October 15th.

That means in the next 4 working days you have to produce and ship 3000+ orders (ballpark figure).

That's not going to happen. You said that yourselves, that you can only produce a few hundred per day.

It's about time we had a proper update, with adjusted and REALISTIC shipping schedule, based on the state of play at the production facility.

Your pride seems too wounded to tell us why it's taken 9 days and still only shipping day1 units, rather than the thousands that were promised by now.

This "we'll sort it ourselves, we won't say anything until it's done" attitude is costing everyone time, money and unnecessary stress.

Drop the wounded pride/ego and honestly update us.

There are a lot of brilliant people on this forum who could and will help if you allow them in.


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October 09, 2013, 02:15:19 PM
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KNC, time to share the problems you are having. People WILL help.

You don't even have to take a hit on your ego, just word your request for help something like this:

---
KNC here. We are having trouble making our flux capacitor twang the DC/DC VRM knick knack.

We know we can fix it ourselves, but in the interests of time, we are sharing the problem to the brilliant bitcoin community.

If in the next 48 hours you can help us get the flux capacitor twanger to level off at 0.8, we are offering 10BTC bounty. Pictures/readout to follow.
---

Simple as that. Just describe the problem(s) and let us get involved! I'm sure you don't even need to offer a bounty, but it could help.


Thats right! Im not angry because i still dont have ma day 2 miner. Im angry because i dont know WHY i still dont have my miner!
This is true for me too, probably everyone.

COMMUNICATION seems to be their weakest part.

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October 09, 2013, 02:15:24 PM
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 CGMiner status: Running (pid=1682)

HW status:

ASIC slot #1: 50.5 ℃
ASIC slot #2: 53.5 ℃
ASIC slot #3: 51.5 ℃
ASIC slot #4: 27.0 ℃


it looks like one boards does not work

does anyoone have the same with me?HuhHuhHuh??
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October 09, 2013, 02:15:51 PM
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Hi,

We see your company is unable to fill its obligations. We can not accept change of delivery time without price compensation. You know very well how this month is important for the recovery of investment.
We do not trust your company anymore.

- we’ve done business based on September delivery
- your company lied about delivery and that it committed fraud
- your company illegally changed the delivery date without our agreement and without any compensation
- now your company is illegally holding money of our company

We ask for an immediate refund.

We are ready to publish everything and take any legal action with other companies in the same situation.

Thanks



jesus christ... delivering a few days later than communicated is not lying. an definitly not a fraud. it is not illegal to be a few days late.
when you pre-ordered you knew that you were purchasing a product that did not exist at all, not even a prototype. being a few days late after a production period of 4 months is nothing. any judge will laugh at you.

the only reasonable sentence i see is you asking for a refund. they should do that to keep you from hyperventilating.


disclaimer: i have ordered several jupiters with knc hosting and i am not amused they are still not mining. but accusations of lying and fraud and threatening with legal action is absurd.

Fair enough

But pointing out how the goalposts are being moved is not always done by calm folks.


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October 09, 2013, 02:19:30 PM
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36HRS "IN PROGRESS"

no shipping info. yet.

maybe it's really coming from Saturn.~?

Don't get your hopes up, Im at 80 hours in progress, still not shipped. I think they may have stopped production due to the fires.

Has anyone reported a shipped miner today or yesterday?
arousedrhino, what was your order#/pay date, please? thanks.

Preorder Queue# 51XX Signed up for that on June 2nd.

Order# 58X placed on June 3rd.

Payment via PayPal complete June 5th.

Shipping to the West coast of the USA.

Good news! I got a tracking number today. On the site it still says in progress though, and the package has not been received by UPS yet. I hope it gets sent today, fingers crossed.
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October 09, 2013, 02:21:43 PM
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CGMiner status: Running (pid=1682)

HW status:

ASIC slot #1: 50.5 ℃
ASIC slot #2: 53.5 ℃
ASIC slot #3: 51.5 ℃
ASIC slot #4: 27.0 ℃


it looks like one boards does not work

does anyoone have the same with me?HuhHuhHuh??

nope...  all mine are above 50.0 ℃
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October 09, 2013, 02:25:09 PM
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Good news! I got a tracking number today. On the site it still says in progress though, and the package has not been received by UPS yet. I hope it gets sent today, fingers crossed.

what time and time zone did you get your tracking number? did you just now get it? I'm still waiting on mine. =(
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October 09, 2013, 02:28:13 PM
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Good news! I got a tracking number today. On the site it still says in progress though, and the package has not been received by UPS yet. I hope it gets sent today, fingers crossed.

what time and time zone did you get your tracking number? did you just now get it?

4:13 AM PST still no progress though, UPS doesn't have the package still.

On a side note does opening up the miner case to fix fans coid the warranty?
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October 09, 2013, 02:37:58 PM
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Send it back just to be safe.
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October 09, 2013, 02:43:54 PM
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Hey KNC/Bitcoinorama. It's time for an update.

You are still shipping orders 1-750 (or at least the first 750 units regardless of order number). The original deadline for shipping ALLLLLL units was October 15th.

That means in the next 4 working days you have to produce and ship 3000+ orders (ballpark figure).

That's not going to happen. You said that yourselves, that you can only produce a few hundred per day.

It's about time we had a proper update, with adjusted and REALISTIC shipping schedule, based on the state of play at the production facility.

Your pride seems too wounded to tell us why it's taken 9 days and still only shipping day1 units, rather than the thousands that were promised by now.

This "we'll sort it ourselves, we won't say anything until it's done" attitude is costing everyone time, money and unnecessary stress.

Drop the wounded pride/ego and honestly update us.

There are a lot of brilliant people on this forum who could and will help if you allow them in.


Guys can you chill a bit pls? You're just winding yourselves up. This is more than a little stressful, but they are still working around the clock. I personally have had to take a day out as my bodyclock was ruined after such little sleep last week, culminating in such a brief trip to the US.

I'm still trying to sort my head out and work out whether I plan to stick around in Sweden for a bit longer, permanently, or not.

With that said you're well aware that what was achieved was momentous, no one has partied yet, and these guys are working around the clock to have these units in you hands. They have not done anything underhand at anypoint, so whilst one can share sympathy for those mistrusting and burnt by companies before, this is absolutely not what's happening here, so drop the conspiracies. It's a mega hardworking bunch of guys working as close to 24/7 as their bodies physically allow and unforeseeable issues will occur, the best resolution is to adapt fast and remain calm. Sam is still confident to hit 15th Oct. Chinese whispers and ballpark assumptions of 3,000+ orders are nowhere close, so that just generates FUD. There's actually approx a 1,000 units left. There has been over local 100 pick-ups (well 100 units picked-up), over 400 physically shipped, and a chunk dedicated to hosting.

KnC has no covert mining operation. KnC actually has no mining for themselves currently, at all. I stated this before; they may mine dependent on what chips are left subsequent to customer units first shipped out, and what returns need to be handled. The issue there is more controller boards though, as Mercury takes the same amount as Saturn, and Jupiter; one. Where as the number of ASICs vary from 1-4.

Yes there are freshly generated coins entering the wallet the refunds came from. That's not a covert mining farm minting coins to refund. That's your hosted devices up, and running. Hosting is live. The issue is configuring the API to your accounts and that is being sorted now. So those minted coins, approx. 175 were put towards the coins creditied. However the total credited will now equal 380 BTC today, so that's 205BTC paid from KnC themselves in addition to what's been generated. There a few additional coins to credit today as there was a mix-up with some guys in possession of multiple miners that were overlooked by mistake and that's being rectified. Hopefully you will be able to access your accounts very soon, but the pool works. The fact is each board has an individual owner and that owner has to be able to configure certain aspects of each board, choice of pool etc. You are therefore not given a proportional 'virtual' share of what's hosted, but actual physical and configurable boards located in your own physical space in the hosting center; i.e. your own board(s), and thus these need to be individually assigned, and that is considerably more laborious than originally expected.

Hope the above settles your nerves a bit, but understand this is a huge undertaking for anyone, and there are enough bodies on the case, that was never in question, moreover too many cooks would almost certainly spoil the broth. KnC want nothing more than this to be done right, and do care about getting your orders both in hand and online. Please appreciate what's been done, and what's currently being resolved is a considerable amount of work, and that no one is resting until that is complete.

Although to be fair I personally, had to take a day off as my central nervous system was fried after traveling multiple time zones, and sleep deprivation, as well as to hug my unworn clothing I hadn't seen for a week. I hadn't come to Sweden prepared to be thrown head first into this. Wink

Here's a video of how the boards are populated I uploaded last wk, but forgot to share prior btw; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFfAHjSmlZM

Also i'm going to try and make the Stockholm meet today which should be in a couple of hours if I can. No idea who, or what to look for though...






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thx for update  Smiley

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