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Author Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com  (Read 3049457 times)
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October 10, 2013, 09:50:11 AM
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I thought you could mine sha256 coins the same "base' as bitcoin also sha256 ...others on here with more knowledge then myself what do you think?



Yes you can i am just saying i might not tweak and poke my unit due to all the bbqing and breaking down i am seeing on the forum .....

yeah this will be when the knc unit reaches its bfl self life death may look at this for fun

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Great , will try iy till i break even, lot of alt sha 52 cons that we can try and than trade back ....

with all the "outdated' and soon to be asic miners....I can't see them going in a closet ...I can see other foo...er I mean enlightened types like myself just using them with alt256 coins .at least until "reality" sets in.....gonna be a lot of us in 9 months with nothing worth mining in bitcoin realm..perhaps we should invent a new coin call it "Titanic Coin" ....yeah it looks pretty and is ahead of its time but it too will sink.

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Titanic coin.....lol....i guess thats what BTC is to us miners right now .....Smiley
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October 10, 2013, 09:54:26 AM
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According to http://www.coinchoose.com/ every SHA-256 alt coin is less profitable than BTC on the last 7-day average... ZET is the only one that comes close.
So, better stick with mining BTC. Wink

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October 10, 2013, 09:55:45 AM
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Why only 4 VRM's on each board now  Huh
How many VRM's do you guys have on your boards?
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October 10, 2013, 09:57:08 AM
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Why only 4 VRM's on each board now  Huh
How many VRM's do you guys have on your boards?


what exactly is that?
any photos to see it/
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October 10, 2013, 10:00:09 AM
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Why only 4 VRM's on each board now  Huh
How many VRM's do you guys have on your boards?


what exactly is that?
any photos to see it/

The Voltage Regulator Modules.  The 8 (or 4) silver  rectangular modules around the ASIC that get VERY hot. Initially were 8 now only 4. Did KnC explain why already? I might have missed it.
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October 10, 2013, 10:08:09 AM
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According to http://www.coinchoose.com/ every SHA-256 alt coin is less profitable than BTC on the last 7-day average... ZET is the only one that comes close.
So, better stick with mining BTC. Wink

oh I agree..its just that the only hope is if you "pick" the right sha256 before everyone else with an outdated miner heads there..something to do when my miner makes
.001btc a month...ie the step before miner becomes true doorstop (or last great futile gesture to the alt coin universe your pick)


 
and with them alt coins you can at least have the pleasure of seeing you find a 'coin' with my bfl stuff at that time...see I'm mining...ain't worth nothing but I'm mining..heh



(hey monkey primate human is easily entertained and/or con'd your pick)

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October 10, 2013, 10:08:14 AM
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Answered here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg3309204#msg3309204


Why only 4 VRM's on each board now  Huh
How many VRM's do you guys have on your boards?


what exactly is that?
any photos to see it/

The Voltage Regulator Modules.  The 8 (or 4) silver  rectangular modules around the ASIC that get VERY hot. Initially were 8 now only 4. Did KnC explain why already? I might have missed it.

@Searing: Don't loose hope. It'll look brighter next spring once the dust has settled down and difficulty plateaued.

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October 10, 2013, 10:10:29 AM
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ahhh I have got 8/board.) good or bad?

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October 10, 2013, 10:12:20 AM
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Is that also a picture of the cap that's destined to blow?  Tongue

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October 10, 2013, 10:14:30 AM
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Ok so finally my order is shipped 8xx day 2 payment, and it will take only 11 days to arrive ..i am so royally, majorly and monumentally screwed .....
Man, where do you live.. Antarctica? (Or were you joking?)
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October 10, 2013, 10:15:45 AM
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Why only 4 VRM's on each board now  Huh
How many VRM's do you guys have on your boards?


what exactly is that?
any photos to see it/

The Voltage Regulator Modules.  The 8 (or 4) silver  rectangular modules around the ASIC that get VERY hot. Initially were 8 now only 4. Did KnC explain why already? I might have missed it.

no but my guess is just that .they we're not needed and they did get "hot"

just a guess thou

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October 10, 2013, 10:19:13 AM
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Answered here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg3309204#msg3309204


Why only 4 VRM's on each board now  Huh
How many VRM's do you guys have on your boards?


what exactly is that?
any photos to see it/

The Voltage Regulator Modules.  The 8 (or 4) silver  rectangular modules around the ASIC that get VERY hot. Initially were 8 now only 4. Did KnC explain why already? I might have missed it.

@Searing: Don't loose hope. It'll look brighter next spring once the dust has settled down and difficulty plateaued.



well this calc that says 80% the next month don't help if the 825gh of stuff from KNC does not arrive by nov 1st according to that calc' guess I won't make ROI.

http://www.bitreturn.com/


but yeah it has to plateau right (yeah right about the time my equip is toast and I have no b*lls nor drive to play asic miner buyer again heh


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October 10, 2013, 10:22:31 AM
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Why only 4 VRM's on each board now  Huh
How many VRM's do you guys have on your boards?


what exactly is that?
any photos to see it/

The Voltage Regulator Modules.  The 8 (or 4) silver  rectangular modules around the ASIC that get VERY hot. Initially were 8 now only 4. Did KnC explain why already? I might have missed it.

no but my guess is just that .they we're not needed and they did get "hot"

just a guess thou

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg3309204#msg3309204
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Applied to VRMs Wink

EDIT: By the way, when talking about diff increase, remember that KnC equipment is also contributing. So if your equipment hasn't got delivered yet, then the difficulty will be proportionally lower. Don't put too much store by all those calcs.

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EDIT: By the way, when talking about diff increase, remember that KnC equipment is also contributing. So if your equipment hasn't got delivered yet, then the difficulty will be proportionally lower. Don't put too much store by all those calcs.
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I'll keep that in mind but I'm quite the "savant" on my ability to be 'incorrect" (worse case) on this ASIC MINER stuff since BFL and April (hey its a gift)

so between my track record and the calc's its a hard choice imho

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October 10, 2013, 10:30:58 AM
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in which area of order numbers we are currently? thank you!

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October 10, 2013, 10:36:35 AM
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in which area of order numbers we are currently? thank you!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=249065.0

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October 10, 2013, 10:38:05 AM
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Still on Day1 / Day 2, judging from this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=249065.0;topicseen

EDIT: Ninja'd by Frequency  Grin To add something more informative: order numbers don't play a role, payment dates do.

EDIT 2: Phoenix1969, didn't you receive your miners with 5x number? It's not reflected in the list.

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October 10, 2013, 10:43:36 AM
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I HAVE 8 I THINK AT MY BOARD
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October 10, 2013, 10:44:19 AM
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I'm thinking they're not going to be able to clear out the entire order queue in 3.5 business days as they scramble to fix firmware and hosting at the same time.

And before -redacted- accuses me of trolling, my order number is in the 26XX range, and even though I'm not in the Day 1/2 club, I still think I'm entitled to get my order at least a month before the November orders go out, with their 10% BTC discount and all.

For some reason people thought the "show" would be over when they finished the product. KnC should start offering refunds if they continue to *fail* to keep their promises, meanwhile flooding the market with a significantly cheaper product a month later.

This is getting ridiculous folks.
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October 10, 2013, 10:47:26 AM
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meeeh, KNC/Bitcoinorama, could you please clarify this?

Here you go, 24 unproductive hours with a Jupiter on p2pool  (.93 firmware) Tongue



https://i.imgur.com/DcIYr1i.png

https://i.imgur.com/Y17eq5S.png

https://i.imgur.com/mJRwRJr.png
Hmm calculation time on your picture Smiley
Elapsed = 96511s
Accepted = 7963136 1diff shares
Rejected = 166912 1diff shares
Hardware errors = 657472 1diff nonces

So Accepted hash rate is 2^32 * Accepted / Elapsed
354.4GH/s

Full hash rate (Accepted + Rejected) is 2^32 * (Accepted + Rejected) / Elapsed
361.8GH/s

Only one minor comment on those - you can only count the Rejected in the device GH/s if KnC hasn't fucked with the submit_nonce() code and also you can verify that by seeing why the shares were Rejected.
As far as I know there's been no sign of the GPL3 code as should have been given to anyone with a KnC who asks for it ... and it must have all versions of the code asked for.

Gee ... I wonder if I'll have another Kano vs GitSyncom ... what'll it be called this time ... Kano vs KFC Smiley
Nom nom.

Anyway, now for the fun numbers there ...
Hardware % = Hardware / (Accepted + Rejected + Hardware)
7.48%
which, BTW, is 29.3GH/s of hardware errors Tongue

Well at least it's less than the original 16% when they were boasting about how good it was ... lolololol

Now ... what are these things supposed to be doing?

I'm sure I saw them boasting in that video how they were doing 500GH ... how did it that boasting go ... ?
"... Back in May we promised you 250 ... well it's not 250
Then we upped it to 300 ... it's not 300
In June we said 350. We published that on the web site ... it's not 350 (tears paper in half)
In August we said 400 ... well it's not 400 (screws up the page and throws it on the floor)
We have a 500 machine here for you today and as evidence of the 500 machine we have a laptop in front of us running a full copy of cgminer.
We can see here that we are actually achieving, on average, over 500
In fact the theoretical limit is 576+
576 gigahashes a second and it's fully working and we start shipping today ..."


Interesting definition of "fully working" ...

So do you feel like telling them to go fuck themselves about the red comments for your hardware? Cheesy

I will add they failed to see that it wasn't even showing 500GH/s on the screen as I pointed out here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg3276727#msg3276727

But of course the most important point being firstly that they seem to think that cgminer showing that on the screen is all the proof they needed.
Yay cgminer Smiley

Pity they wrote the driver and fucked up cgminer's reputation ... well ... we didn't have anything to do with their driver code.
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