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October 09, 2013, 04:37:00 PM
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Hi O'rama, I know there are more pressing matters to be discussed, but do you happen to know when resellers who managed the 10 units are going to get their miners?

Also, do you know what is going on with the reseller portal?

From what I understand, as someone asked me this at the conference, or words about; basically you get your miner at the point at which your 10th miner sale ships un-refunded. So if you sold 10 Jupiters in the October batch, you get your miner at the point at which the 10th Jupiter is sent. So in essence it is part of the October shipment. If your tenth is a November sale, then you get yours at such point your 10th sale leaves for shipment.

For sure though you have to sell 10 of any one type, so 10 Jupiters= 1 Jupiter free, 10 Saturns = 1 Saturn, 10 Mercuries etc. It's not a combo of 10 various types.

I don't think anyone managed to sell 10 boxes for an October shipment, other than that that bought 10+, and that's not many.

I'm no expert on this though, as I haven't been part of the affiliate thing, even though i've probably helped shift a few, or most. Sad



Funny thing, when i mentioned this to you previously, you said you were NOT helping them at all and 'merely expressing opinions'

Had it not been for you personally over enthusiastically vouching for them i would NOT have paid for my order.

i am over it now, but i was not impressed by your conduct in previous times.

i like you more now, the new, more honest bitcoinorama....  it would seem travel & expenses bring out the better in you.

now back to packing!!



Indirectly. It's obvious as a consequence to me asking and relaying evidence I procured that people on the fence made up their minds with what I conveyed, but I always stood my ground with respect to honesty and integrity, and always told people to strengthen and confirm my research with their own. I've never lied, so i'm unsure how my conduct has been anything but helpful in ensuring this project stayed on track. Any accusations towards scams that I've made have been wholly accurate. I expect to be proven correct about dishonest marketing practices used elsewhere as well.  My optimism and defense of the project throughout the duration came down to the fact I knew these guys were genuine and wanted to focus on delivering in time. I also knew that they had strongly vouched to promise worst case specs so as not to misappropriate facts with marketing fiction.

At the end of the day; I want to see my miner, as much as you want to see yours. My sole purpose in heading out there in the first place was to research them for myself, and my sole intent in remaining positive and providing supporting arguments was to counteract FUD being spread by competitors posing as users of this forum. The very same accusing me of allsorts. At the end of the day they had to stand on their own two feet and provide irrefutable evidence, as promised, within the given timeframe, or it means nothing to anyone.

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October 09, 2013, 04:37:15 PM
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KnCMiner Hosting Pool

portal.kncminer.com


I've logged in an verified I have 11 Jupiters running.

Looks like they are getting it operational!

Hey Bargraphics, how did you got that info? by email?

By logging into the portal, most likely.
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October 09, 2013, 04:38:23 PM
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Hey KNC/Bitcoinorama, thanks for making us beg for an update.

Good to see pretty much no answers in your post obama.

Regarding data centre:
The fact is each board has an individual owner and that owner has to be able to configure certain aspects of each board, choice of pool etc. You are therefore not given a proportional 'virtual' share of what's hosted, but actual physical and configurable boards located in your own physical space in the hosting center; i.e. your own board(s), and thus these need to be individually assigned, and that is considerably more laborious than originally expected.
4 boards, 1 controller board and connect one ethernet cable. To use your favourite word - BOOM! Now how is that "more laborious than originally expected". So, a total no-answer on DC delays.

How about some answers to these questions:
1. How come the sub-standard cgminer from KNC?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=18313.msg3294238#msg3294238
This post suggests the KNC version is not doing a proper work restart. Any reason KNC are spending 9 days releasing firmware updates that doesn't even fix these issues? I'm fairly sure the guys who wrote cgminer could sort this quick fast. Anyway, I expect no-answer on this one.

2. How come boards are bbq'ing?
I know you wrote a post a few days ago trying to blame people for unplugging cables while the miner was still powered up, but that was scapegoating. There is plenty speculation on the hardware issues causing, but a total no-answer on this from you/KNC. Anyway, I expect no-answer on this one too.

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atleast Spelon from anotherhost.se made them aware of the bbq-issue:

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they gave me schetchy looks when i told them that this was the 2nd burn we've had

edit: and i think those guys know how to handle IT-equipment...
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October 09, 2013, 04:39:39 PM
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KnCMiner Hosting Pool

portal.kncminer.com


I've logged in an verified I have 11 Jupiters running.

Looks like they are getting it operational!

Hey Bargraphics, how did you got that info? by email?

By logging into the portal, most likely.
he just replied on IRC and he already got an email with details....
Looks like the pool is 51TH/s ... that would be 4% of the current total hash rate - if not mistaken - ..very interesting!
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October 09, 2013, 04:44:23 PM
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from their site:


Price drop for BTC payments



All

As customers have started returning for more purchases already. We would like to take this opportunity to add our own support to the bitcoin currency by offering 10% discount on all bitcoin payments

Simply add the items you wish to purchase to your cart, choose BitPay as the payment method and the discount will be automatically calculated in the shop.

Simple as that

Thanks

KnCMiner Team


This is rather annoying.  I just put in BitPay orders not too long ago.  Sad
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October 09, 2013, 04:45:21 PM
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Bugger. Thought this would be at 9pm, not 9am!

http://www.meetup.com/bitcoin/events/142308492/

Looks like I have missed the Stockholm meetup!! Embarrassed

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October 09, 2013, 04:48:06 PM
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Bugger. Thought this would be at 9pm, not 9am!

http://www.meetup.com/bitcoin/events/142308492/

Looks like I have missed the Stockholm meetup!! Embarrassed

I've made the mistake of thinking on a 12hr clock in 24hr clock land. Almost missed my train.

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October 09, 2013, 04:50:01 PM
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Bugger. Thought this would be at 9pm, not 9am!

http://www.meetup.com/bitcoin/events/142308492/

Looks like I have missed the Stockholm meetup!! Embarrassed

I've made the mistake of thinking on a 12hr clock in 24hr clock land. Almost missed my train.

I also made the pivotal mistake of believing it would involve alcohol, and not coffee!! Angry

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October 09, 2013, 04:50:11 PM
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Guys can you chill a bit pls? You're just winding yourselves up. This is more than a little stressful, but they are still working around the clock. I personally have had to take a day out as my bodyclock was ruined after such little sleep last week, culminating in such a brief trip to the US.

I'm still trying to sort my head out and work out whether I plan to stick around in Sweden for a bit longer, permanently, or not.

With that said you're well aware that what was achieved was momentous, no one has partied yet, and these guys are working around the clock to have these units in you hands. They have not done anything underhand at anypoint, so whilst one can share sympathy for those mistrusting and burnt by companies before, this is absolutely not what's happening here, so drop the conspiracies. It's a mega hardworking bunch of guys working as close to 24/7 as their bodies physically allow and unforeseeable issues will occur, the best resolution is to adapt fast and remain calm.

...

Hope the above settles your nerves a bit, but understand this is a huge undertaking for anyone, and there are enough bodies on the case, that was never in question, moreover too many cooks would almost certainly spoil the broth. KnC want nothing more than this to be done right, and do care about getting your orders both in hand and online. Please appreciate what's been done, and what's currently being resolved is a considerable amount of work, and that no one is resting until that is complete.

Although to be fair I personally, had to take a day off as my central nervous system was fried after traveling multiple time zones, and sleep deprivation, as well as to hug my unworn clothing I hadn't seen for a week. I hadn't come to Sweden prepared to be thrown head first into this. Wink

Here's a video of how the boards are populated I uploaded last wk, but forgot to share prior btw; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFfAHjSmlZM

Also i'm going to try and make the Stockholm meet today which should be in a couple of hours if I can. No idea who, or what to look for though...

P.S. This whole thing ^:

= "I'm tired and everyone at KNC is tired, but we are working round the clock to get things done".

You should learn to write like an engineer - succinct and no unnecessary detail - if you want to be one.


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October 09, 2013, 04:53:31 PM
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from their site:


Price drop for BTC payments



All

As customers have started returning for more purchases already. We would like to take this opportunity to add our own support to the bitcoin currency by offering 10% discount on all bitcoin payments

Simply add the items you wish to purchase to your cart, choose BitPay as the payment method and the discount will be automatically calculated in the shop.

Simple as that

Thanks

KnCMiner Team


This is rather annoying.  I just put in BitPay orders not too long ago.  Sad
It is not only annoying, it is unfair against all previous Nov customers, regardless what payment method used. I have a Nov order paid September 10th and I think about refund, because it is not acceptable to lower the price at one time within one batch in a pre-order sale. Someone who paid yesterday is completely screwed. As I said, this sales policy is not acceptable.
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October 09, 2013, 04:57:07 PM
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Guys can you chill a bit pls? You're just winding yourselves up. This is more than a little stressful, but they are still working around the clock. I personally have had to take a day out as my bodyclock was ruined after such little sleep last week, culminating in such a brief trip to the US.

I'm still trying to sort my head out and work out whether I plan to stick around in Sweden for a bit longer, permanently, or not.

With that said you're well aware that what was achieved was momentous, no one has partied yet, and these guys are working around the clock to have these units in you hands. They have not done anything underhand at anypoint, so whilst one can share sympathy for those mistrusting and burnt by companies before, this is absolutely not what's happening here, so drop the conspiracies. It's a mega hardworking bunch of guys working as close to 24/7 as their bodies physically allow and unforeseeable issues will occur, the best resolution is to adapt fast and remain calm.

...

Hope the above settles your nerves a bit, but understand this is a huge undertaking for anyone, and there are enough bodies on the case, that was never in question, moreover too many cooks would almost certainly spoil the broth. KnC want nothing more than this to be done right, and do care about getting your orders both in hand and online. Please appreciate what's been done, and what's currently being resolved is a considerable amount of work, and that no one is resting until that is complete.

Although to be fair I personally, had to take a day off as my central nervous system was fried after traveling multiple time zones, and sleep deprivation, as well as to hug my unworn clothing I hadn't seen for a week. I hadn't come to Sweden prepared to be thrown head first into this. Wink

Here's a video of how the boards are populated I uploaded last wk, but forgot to share prior btw; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFfAHjSmlZM

Also i'm going to try and make the Stockholm meet today which should be in a couple of hours if I can. No idea who, or what to look for though...

P.S. This whole thing ^:

= "I'm tired and everyone at KNC is tired, but we are working round the clock to get things done".

You should learn to write like an engineer - succinct and no unnecessary detail - if you want to be one.



Whilst undoubtedly I appreciate a valid comment. That's not how this forum works, despite how frequently you see TL:DR.

- TL:DR generally means the poster is rude, or lazy.

- Reasoning without content leaves the conspiracy theorists to fall to pieces amongst their own FUD.

It's all in the details, literally. People here always want more, so I try to appease. Although I am trying to curb the volume and length these days.

You can't win though; too long, peeps complain, however, those that are interested will read it.

Too short and peeps let their fears get the better of them.

I like to think I cover all bases and satisfy the larger audience as it were. I'd rather people were content then hungry.

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October 09, 2013, 05:04:22 PM
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two Jupiters running here

only 1 of the 8 fans were still mounted.   I asked to just mail them unmounted to begin with and they said 'on no, we can't ship them unmounted...'  well they can't ship them mounted either

anyway..  got one running ~490 but the other just ~400 both running .94 firmware

they do run hot as balls - I took off the lid and put big fans pointing down on each miner.  Will keep improving airflow as much as possible


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October 09, 2013, 05:06:45 PM
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WHAT is the tempeture of jupiter run at 400 gh?

let me know?

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October 09, 2013, 05:10:37 PM
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It's all in the details, literally.
How about a clear answer to my 2 numbered questions above?

That's some detail I would like.

IMneverHO, you write very long posts with very very little tangible detail.

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October 09, 2013, 05:10:42 PM
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two Jupiters running here

only 1 of the 8 fans were still mounted.   I asked to just mail them unmounted to begin with and they said 'on no, we can't ship them unmounted...'  well they can't ship them mounted either

anyway..  got one running ~490 but the other just ~400 both running .94 firmware

they do run hot as balls - I took off the lid and put big fans pointing down on each miner.  Will keep improving airflow as much as possible



It's amazing how completely random the speeds are.
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October 09, 2013, 05:16:04 PM
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WHAT is the tempeture of jupiter run at 400 gh?

let me know?

DPoS


miner temps seem to be the same for me, one chip each running hot.   I have a big fan on top so one section might need more airflow

~417 Gh

ASIC slot #1: 64.0 ℃
ASIC slot #2: -
ASIC slot #3: 50.5 ℃
ASIC slot #4: -
ASIC slot #5: 55.5 ℃
ASIC slot #6: 48.0 ℃

~517 Gh

ASIC slot #1: 64.0 ℃
ASIC slot #2: -
ASIC slot #3: 55.5 ℃
ASIC slot #4: 47.5 ℃
ASIC slot #5: 46.0 ℃
ASIC slot #6: -


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October 09, 2013, 05:21:56 PM
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ASIC Board   Info
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Temperature sensor: 47.0 C
DC/DC ID   ON/OFF   Status   Input Voltage   Output Voltage   Output Current
0   ON   OK   12.2 V   0.814 V   15.7 A (12.8 W)
1   OFF   OFF   12.1 V   0.805 V   0 A
2   ON   OK   12.2 V   0.834 V   16.2 A (13.5 W)
3   OFF   OFF   12.1 V   0.818 V   0 A
4   ON   OK   12.1 V   0.8 V   17.9 A (14.3 W)
5   OFF   OFF   12.2 V   0.787 V   0 A
6   OFF   OFF   12.2 V   0.775 V   0 A
7   ON   OK   12.2 V   0.781 V   22.1 A (17.3 W)
1   
Temperature sensor: 50.0 C
DC/DC ID   ON/OFF   Status   Input Voltage   Output Voltage   Output Current
0   ON   OK   11.9 V   0.819 V   15.8 A (12.9 W)
1   OFF   OFF   12 V   0.808 V   0 A
2   ON   OK   12 V   0.804 V   16.3 A (13.1 W)
3   OFF   OFF   12 V   0.816 V   0 A
4   ON   OK   12 V   0.78 V   23.9 A (18.6 W)
5   OFF   OFF   12 V   0.771 V   0 A
6   OFF   OFF   12 V   0.809 V   0 A
7   ON   OK   12.1 V   0.811 V   16.4 A (13.3 W)
2   
Temperature sensor: 48.5 C
DC/DC ID   ON/OFF   Status   Input Voltage   Output Voltage   Output Current
0   ON   OK   12 V   0.803 V   16.1 A (12.9 W)
1   OFF   OFF   12.1 V   0.8 V   0 A
2   ON   OK   12.1 V   0.83 V   16.1 A (13.4 W)
3   OFF   OFF   12 V   0.829 V   0 A
4   ON   OK   12.1 V   0.798 V   15.4 A (12.3 W)
5   OFF   OFF   12 V   0.798 V   0 A
6   OFF   OFF   12.1 V   0.772 V   0 A
7   ON   OK   12.1 V   0.786 V   24.8 A (19.5 W)
3   
Temperature sensor: 26.5 C
DC/DC ID   ON/OFF   Status   Input Voltage   Output Voltage   Output Current
0   ON   OK   12.2 V   0.874 V   0.375 A
1   OFF   OFF   12.2 V   0.883 V   0 A
2   ON   OK   12.2 V   0.876 V   0.375 A
3   OFF   OFF   12.2 V   0.889 V   0 A
4   ON   OK   12.3 V   0.882 V   0.25 A
5   OFF   OFF   12.3 V   0.879 V   0 A
6   OFF   OFF   12.2 V   0.882 V   0 A
7   ON   OK   12.3 V   0.881 V   0.438 A
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October 09, 2013, 05:22:20 PM
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something wrong with my board 4
can anyone here help me???
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October 09, 2013, 05:22:40 PM
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6 Canada 5,593.51 GH/s
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October 09, 2013, 05:34:58 PM
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Hi O'rama, I know there are more pressing matters to be discussed, but do you happen to know when resellers who managed the 10 units are going to get their miners?

Also, do you know what is going on with the reseller portal?

From what I understand, as someone asked me this at the conference, or words about; basically you get your miner at the point at which your 10th miner sale ships un-refunded. So if you sold 10 Jupiters in the October batch, you get your miner at the point at which the 10th Jupiter is sent. So in essence it is part of the October shipment. If your tenth is a November sale, then you get yours at such point your 10th sale leaves for shipment.

For sure though you have to sell 10 of any one type, so 10 Jupiters= 1 Jupiter free, 10 Saturns = 1 Saturn, 10 Mercuries etc. It's not a combo of 10 various types.

I don't think anyone managed to sell 10 boxes for an October shipment, other than that that bought 10+, and that's not many.

I'm no expert on this though, as I haven't been part of the affiliate thing, even though i've probably helped shift a few, or most. Sad



Funny thing, when i mentioned this to you previously, you said you were NOT helping them at all and 'merely expressing opinions'

Had it not been for you personally over enthusiastically vouching for them i would NOT have paid for my order.

i am over it now, but i was not impressed by your conduct in previous times.

i like you more now, the new, more honest bitcoinorama....  it would seem travel & expenses bring out the better in you.

now back to packing!!



Indirectly. It's obvious as a consequence to me asking and relaying evidence I procured that people on the fence made up their minds with what I conveyed, but I always stood my ground with respect to honesty and integrity, and always told people to strengthen and confirm my research with their own. I've never lied, so i'm unsure how my conduct has been anything but helpful in ensuring this project stayed on track. Any accusations towards scams that I've made have been wholly accurate. I expect to be proven correct about dishonest marketing practices used elsewhere as well.  My optimism and defense of the project throughout the duration came down to the fact I knew these guys were genuine and wanted to focus on delivering in time. I also knew that they had strongly vouched to promise worst case specs so as not to misappropriate facts with marketing fiction.

At the end of the day; I want to see my miner, as much as you want to see yours. My sole purpose in heading out there in the first place was to research them for myself, and my sole intent in remaining positive and providing supporting arguments was to counteract FUD being spread by competitors posing as users of this forum. The very same accusing me of allsorts. At the end of the day they had to stand on their own two feet and provide irrefutable evidence, as promised, within the given timeframe, or it means nothing to anyone.

I don't think anyone is letting me anywhere near packing again. I think my plan of uploading such a piss poor ability to pack scuppered that. Mission accomplished. Mwuhahaha! Tongue

Orama, Glad to hear you are catching your breath dude... And its also good to see the trolls dry up / praise you in the aftermath of all the FUD that was thrown at you. Hope you continue working with KNC. I just hope they recognize really how much business you brought them.

That Aside, can you please address the Capacitor issue? I have 3 of these in-bound and am scared as hell to leave them alone by themselves... Can you please inquire about this issue and see if you can get some answers for the following questions:

1. The model / Capacitance of the Cap's that are blowing

2. What the theoretical cause of is as to why these are blowing when the machine is restarted after a lock-up.


Much appreciate it dude... Look forward to hearing from you
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