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October 09, 2013, 05:31:47 AM
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So where do you guys place Bitfury in terms of delivering on promise schedule as per them Huh
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October 09, 2013, 05:47:18 AM
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If i don't get one of my two jupiters by Friday, I am going to hack this site.
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So where do you guys place Bitfury in terms of delivering on promise schedule as per them Huh


That issue in terms of 'delivery" has a harsh meaning to us former BFL customers (probably down 8K) I ordered my stuff in April 2013 (the same month KNC became a company and posted such)...and it is still gonna be 3 weeks at best for my 65gh from BFL (sorry I digress)

So if I remember right "Bitfury" may be legitimate as heck...but I don't think they take Paypal , Paypal with credit cards nor do they I think take regular credit cards like KNC ...so once burnt I'll stay away till such happens..I did a bank xfer with BFL and could have easily gotten my $$$ back by reversing charges at this point...but w/o a credit card or even using your banks debit card (usually have a cc mine is backed by visa) .....I am crap out of luck....

I'm not gonna play that game ever again ...so learn from my mistakes..only pay by credit card.....look at TerraHash as far as I can determine the chip maker was at fault and did not get him the chips ..I think it was Avalon...so even if the mnfg is legit stuff can still happen where  you hold the bag.

IMHO the asic mnfg companies are gonna have to step it up and do as KNC has done at least paypal with cc and direct cc payment as well.

on a side note people tout Cointerra ...and cointerra flaunts the fact it has high tech people and big money behind their product (not harsh I wish them luck) but for asic mining companies to blow smoke and say they can't get paypal or cc options for their customers is a bunch of hoohey


KNC got cc direct payment visa master card and paypal  and got the paypal cc option like 1 month after they STARTED the company and a couple months later got direct cc payment

and KNC has only existed maybe 6 months...

anyway to me it smells that so many 'choose' not to have paypal or cc options imho..want you to have ALL the risk...

so will stay away from anything that is not KNC  who has stated they can't get  cc options  or paypal imho...for the time being I'd rather wait on KNC  

and of course anyone reading this does not know about BFL google them ..you will see to run away....they take paypal but don't deliver for more then 1yr

anyway

live an learn from my mistake

my 2c worth
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October 09, 2013, 06:09:06 AM
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In case anyone is still looking for a powersupply.

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/103844/newegg---1000w-cooler-master-v1000-80-gold-modular-power-supply
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October 09, 2013, 06:42:25 AM
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nope. Have a corsair ax760 waiting for it at home.

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October 09, 2013, 06:59:44 AM
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So where do you guys place Bitfury in terms of delivering on promise schedule as per them Huh


That issue in terms of 'delivery" has a harsh meaning to us former BFL customers (probably down 8K) I ordered my stuff in April 2013 (the same month KNC became a company and posted such)...and it is still gonna be 3 weeks at best for my 65gh from BFL (sorry I digress)

So if I remember right "Bitfury" may be legitimate as heck...but I don't think they take Paypal , Paypal with credit cards nor do they I think take regular credit cards like KNC ...so once burnt I'll stay away till such happens..I did a bank xfer with BFL and could have easily gotten my $$$ back by reversing charges at this point...but w/o a credit card or even using your banks debit card (usually have a cc mine is backed by visa) .....I am crap out of luck....

I'm not gonna play that game ever again ...so learn from my mistakes..only pay by credit card.....look at TerraHash as far as I can determine the chip maker was at fault and did not get him the chips ..I think it was Avalon...so even if the mnfg is legit stuff can still happen where  you hold the bag.

IMHO the asic mnfg companies are gonna have to step it up and do as KNC has done at least paypal with cc and direct cc payment as well.

on a side note people tout Cointerra ...and cointerra flaunts the fact it has high tech people and big money behind their product (not harsh I wish them luck) but for asic mining companies to blow smoke and say they can't get paypal or cc options for their customers is a bunch of hoohey


KNC got cc direct payment visa master card and paypal  and got the paypal cc option like 1 month after they STARTED the company and a couple months later got direct cc payment

and KNC has only existed maybe 6 months...

anyway to me it smells that so many 'choose' not to have paypal or cc options imho..want you to have ALL the risk...

so will stay away from anything that is not KNC  who has stated they can't get  cc options  or paypal imho...for the time being I'd rather wait on KNC  

and of course anyone reading this does not know about BFL google them ..you will see to run away....they take paypal but don't deliver for more then 1yr

anyway

live an learn from my mistake

my 2c worth
Searing


I see this statement an awful lot... "I will only use a credit card to buy ASIC miners."

Huh

So what good are Bitcoins if the people who mine them won't even use them to make purchases?!  It sounds like we don't really have a need for BTC.  Credit cards are good enough, apparently.

 
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October 09, 2013, 07:02:23 AM
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cgminer keep show me accepted by FPGA 21 works, but onlt 0 submitted
it casue only 10% accept on pool
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October 09, 2013, 07:04:39 AM
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So where do you guys place Bitfury in terms of delivering on promise schedule as per them Huh


That issue in terms of 'delivery" has a harsh meaning to us former BFL customers (probably down 8K) I ordered my stuff in April 2013 (the same month KNC became a company and posted such)...and it is still gonna be 3 weeks at best for my 65gh from BFL (sorry I digress)

So if I remember right "Bitfury" may be legitimate as heck...but I don't think they take Paypal , Paypal with credit cards nor do they I think take regular credit cards like KNC ...so once burnt I'll stay away till such happens..I did a bank xfer with BFL and could have easily gotten my $$$ back by reversing charges at this point...but w/o a credit card or even using your banks debit card (usually have a cc mine is backed by visa) .....I am crap out of luck....

I'm not gonna play that game ever again ...so learn from my mistakes..only pay by credit card.....look at TerraHash as far as I can determine the chip maker was at fault and did not get him the chips ..I think it was Avalon...so even if the mnfg is legit stuff can still happen where  you hold the bag.

IMHO the asic mnfg companies are gonna have to step it up and do as KNC has done at least paypal with cc and direct cc payment as well.

on a side note people tout Cointerra ...and cointerra flaunts the fact it has high tech people and big money behind their product (not harsh I wish them luck) but for asic mining companies to blow smoke and say they can't get paypal or cc options for their customers is a bunch of hoohey


KNC got cc direct payment visa master card and paypal  and got the paypal cc option like 1 month after they STARTED the company and a couple months later got direct cc payment

and KNC has only existed maybe 6 months...

anyway to me it smells that so many 'choose' not to have paypal or cc options imho..want you to have ALL the risk...

so will stay away from anything that is not KNC  who has stated they can't get  cc options  or paypal imho...for the time being I'd rather wait on KNC  

and of course anyone reading this does not know about BFL google them ..you will see to run away....they take paypal but don't deliver for more then 1yr

anyway

live an learn from my mistake

my 2c worth
Searing


I see this statement an awful lot... "I will only use a credit card to buy ASIC miners."

So what good are Bitcoins if the people who mine them won't even use them to make purchases?!  It sounds like we don't really have a need for BTC.  Credit cards are good enough, apparently.

 Huh

I think there are plans to improve bitcoin with such ..i'm just saying been burnt bad ..will wait till there is some kinda fire dept in place (reputable refund plan) at least with the asic manufacturer's kinda sick of taking all the pain an risk with there endeavors w/o any consequences for them in the long run

anyway read somewhere recently they are considering changing the protocol of bitcoins to allow such ...can't remember where it is now thou was within the last few days



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October 09, 2013, 07:06:09 AM
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cgminer keep show me accepted by FPGA 21 works, but onlt 0 submitted
it casue only 10% accept on pool
Same problem with 2 of my jupiter.
KnC says this will be fixed in the next firmware which schould came out yersterday...
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October 09, 2013, 07:12:05 AM
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cgminer keep show me accepted by FPGA 21 works, but onlt 0 submitted
it casue only 10% accept on pool

firstly which firmware are you running?

secondlly join kncminer channel at irc.freeenode.net... you'll find a lot of skilled people there.

as last thing, look at this thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=306969.0

particulary the 5th page

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October 09, 2013, 07:12:46 AM
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there needs to be an escro service for asic companys

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October 09, 2013, 07:13:19 AM
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So where do you guys place Bitfury in terms of delivering on promise schedule as per them Huh


That issue in terms of 'delivery" has a harsh meaning to us former BFL customers (probably down 8K) I ordered my stuff in April 2013 (the same month KNC became a company and posted such)...and it is still gonna be 3 weeks at best for my 65gh from BFL (sorry I digress)

So if I remember right "Bitfury" may be legitimate as heck...but I don't think they take Paypal , Paypal with credit cards nor do they I think take regular credit cards like KNC ...so once burnt I'll stay away till such happens..I did a bank xfer with BFL and could have easily gotten my $$$ back by reversing charges at this point...but w/o a credit card or even using your banks debit card (usually have a cc mine is backed by visa) .....I am crap out of luck....

I'm not gonna play that game ever again ...so learn from my mistakes..only pay by credit card.....look at TerraHash as far as I can determine the chip maker was at fault and did not get him the chips ..I think it was Avalon...so even if the mnfg is legit stuff can still happen where  you hold the bag.

IMHO the asic mnfg companies are gonna have to step it up and do as KNC has done at least paypal with cc and direct cc payment as well.

on a side note people tout Cointerra ...and cointerra flaunts the fact it has high tech people and big money behind their product (not harsh I wish them luck) but for asic mining companies to blow smoke and say they can't get paypal or cc options for their customers is a bunch of hoohey


KNC got cc direct payment visa master card and paypal  and got the paypal cc option like 1 month after they STARTED the company and a couple months later got direct cc payment

and KNC has only existed maybe 6 months...

anyway to me it smells that so many 'choose' not to have paypal or cc options imho..want you to have ALL the risk...

so will stay away from anything that is not KNC  who has stated they can't get  cc options  or paypal imho...for the time being I'd rather wait on KNC  

and of course anyone reading this does not know about BFL google them ..you will see to run away....they take paypal but don't deliver for more then 1yr

anyway

live an learn from my mistake

my 2c worth
Searing


I see this statement an awful lot... "I will only use a credit card to buy ASIC miners."

Huh

So what good are Bitcoins if the people who mine them won't even use them to make purchases?!  It sounds like we don't really have a need for BTC.  Credit cards are good enough, apparently.

 

If and when ASICs are like other items and can be bought off the shelf, using BTC will be fine. It's just too risky buying them at all right now so CC makes more sense for protection. Cash would be the same if you were buying something that might go tits up like a holiday. In fact, buying something with cash vs CC which gets you added protection is the same thing ..risk eliminated for no extra cost.
It's not bitcoin that needs to change it's the risky model we have for selling ASICs. Too many large losses aren't there? Sad

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October 09, 2013, 07:21:36 AM
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So where do you guys place Bitfury in terms of delivering on promise schedule as per them Huh


That issue in terms of 'delivery" has a harsh meaning to us former BFL customers (probably down 8K) I ordered my stuff in April 2013 (the same month KNC became a company and posted such)...and it is still gonna be 3 weeks at best for my 65gh from BFL (sorry I digress)

So if I remember right "Bitfury" may be legitimate as heck...but I don't think they take Paypal , Paypal with credit cards nor do they I think take regular credit cards like KNC ...so once burnt I'll stay away till such happens..I did a bank xfer with BFL and could have easily gotten my $$$ back by reversing charges at this point...but w/o a credit card or even using your banks debit card (usually have a cc mine is backed by visa) .....I am crap out of luck....

I'm not gonna play that game ever again ...so learn from my mistakes..only pay by credit card.....look at TerraHash as far as I can determine the chip maker was at fault and did not get him the chips ..I think it was Avalon...so even if the mnfg is legit stuff can still happen where  you hold the bag.

IMHO the asic mnfg companies are gonna have to step it up and do as KNC has done at least paypal with cc and direct cc payment as well.

on a side note people tout Cointerra ...and cointerra flaunts the fact it has high tech people and big money behind their product (not harsh I wish them luck) but for asic mining companies to blow smoke and say they can't get paypal or cc options for their customers is a bunch of hoohey


KNC got cc direct payment visa master card and paypal  and got the paypal cc option like 1 month after they STARTED the company and a couple months later got direct cc payment

and KNC has only existed maybe 6 months...

anyway to me it smells that so many 'choose' not to have paypal or cc options imho..want you to have ALL the risk...

so will stay away from anything that is not KNC  who has stated they can't get  cc options  or paypal imho...for the time being I'd rather wait on KNC  

and of course anyone reading this does not know about BFL google them ..you will see to run away....they take paypal but don't deliver for more then 1yr

anyway

live an learn from my mistake

my 2c worth
Searing


I see this statement an awful lot... "I will only use a credit card to buy ASIC miners."

Huh

So what good are Bitcoins if the people who mine them won't even use them to make purchases?!  It sounds like we don't really have a need for BTC.  Credit cards are good enough, apparently.

 

If and when ASICs are like other items and can be bought off the shelf, using BTC will be fine. It's just too risky buying them at all right now so CC makes more sense for protection. Cash would be the same if you were buying something that might go tits up like a holiday. In fact, buying something with cash vs CC which gets you added protection is the same thing ..risk eliminated for no extra cost.
It's not bitcoin that needs to change it's the risky model we have for selling ASICs. Too many large losses aren't there? Sad

Perfect answer!  Say no more.

And it's exactly what I've done myself... CC for preorders and eBay purchases and BTC for ASICMiner Blades/USBs.
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October 09, 2013, 07:22:10 AM
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I see this statement an awful lot... "I will only use a credit card to buy ASIC miners."

Huh

So what good are Bitcoins if the people who mine them won't even use them to make purchases?!  It sounds like we don't really have a need for BTC.  Credit cards are good enough, apparently.
I also see this response a lot.  Why is it that a single situation where bitcoin might be a sub-optimal method of payment is so often equated with bitcoins being worthless?

Bitcoins don't have to be the best option every time to be worth something.  There are plenty of use cases where bitcoins shine, not to mention that bitcoin is also a protocol that will likely have services layered on top of it to provide the kind of benefits they are lacking where needed (i.e. for large purchases that are pre-orders from a company with little history or trust).
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October 09, 2013, 07:24:44 AM
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cgminer keep show me accepted by FPGA 21 works, but onlt 0 submitted
it casue only 10% accept on pool

firstly which firmware are you running?

secondlly join kncminer channel at irc.freeenode.net... you'll find a lot of skilled people there.

as last thing, look at this thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=306969.0

particulary the 5th page

it happen on 91 92 93 firmware
running on 0.90 with only 280ghs atm
i will read your post now , thanks for that mate
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October 09, 2013, 07:27:37 AM
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cgminer keep show me accepted by FPGA 21 works, but onlt 0 submitted
it casue only 10% accept on pool

firstly which firmware are you running?

secondlly join kncminer channel at irc.freeenode.net... you'll find a lot of skilled people there.

as last thing, look at this thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=306969.0

particulary the 5th page

it happen on 91 92 93 firmware
running on 0.90 with only 280ghs atm
i will read your post now , thanks for that mate

you know that? it just happened to me on one go my jups. with fw 0.91. the strange thing is that this miner was running for almost 4 days without problem.
restarting cgminer didn't help. i'll try to do hard reset as soon as someone will do it for me at the colo.

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October 09, 2013, 07:36:09 AM
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cgminer keep show me accepted by FPGA 21 works, but onlt 0 submitted
it casue only 10% accept on pool

firstly which firmware are you running?

secondlly join kncminer channel at irc.freeenode.net... you'll find a lot of skilled people there.

as last thing, look at this thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=306969.0

particulary the 5th page

it happen on 91 92 93 firmware
running on 0.90 with only 280ghs atm
i will read your post now , thanks for that mate

you know that? it just happened to me on one go my jups. with fw 0.91. the strange thing is that this miner was running for almost 4 days without problem.
restarting cgminer didn't help. i'll try to do hard reset as soon as someone will do it for me at the colo.


And the FPGA Error once again.
I can tell that this thing is struggling with the lack of adequate airflow now. However it is not as bad as the first firmware v0.9.0

i already took the cover off and it doesnt help
i have a full screen  accepted by FPGA 21 works, but onlt 0/2/5/13 submitted
it's so much fun
i dont even think it has half hot as my 7970 rigs
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October 09, 2013, 07:41:56 AM
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cgminer keep show me accepted by FPGA 21 works, but onlt 0 submitted
it casue only 10% accept on pool

firstly which firmware are you running?

secondlly join kncminer channel at irc.freeenode.net... you'll find a lot of skilled people there.

as last thing, look at this thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=306969.0

particulary the 5th page

it happen on 91 92 93 firmware
running on 0.90 with only 280ghs atm
i will read your post now , thanks for that mate

you know that? it just happened to me on one go my jups. with fw 0.91. the strange thing is that this miner was running for almost 4 days without problem.
restarting cgminer didn't help. i'll try to do hard reset as soon as someone will do it for me at the colo.


And the FPGA Error once again.
I can tell that this thing is struggling with the lack of adequate airflow now. However it is not as bad as the first firmware v0.9.0

i already took the cover off and it doesnt help
i have a full screen  accepted by FPGA 21 works, but onlt 0/2/5/13 submitted
it's so much fun
i dont even think it has half hot as my 7970 rigs

someone on here stated you should check your fans that they are all oriented correctly on the heatsinks...(maybe the guy was blowing smoke) but from what I gather all fans should be pushing air in a clockwise direction towards the 2 big fans at the end (also setup same way)

I don't have a unit and may not know what i'm talking about..but something to check?

Searing

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October 09, 2013, 07:58:43 AM
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cgminer keep show me accepted by FPGA 21 works, but onlt 0 submitted
it casue only 10% accept on pool

This message shows up for me as well.
Quite often when a new block is started, but only (seldom) under normal operation.

Shortly before a restart of cgminer, those messages run through the cgminer window at 10-20 per second.
But then the cgminer process is restarted (screen session terminated) within seconds.

I don't know if those infos will help you, but I am just a customer and that's all I know from observing
my Saturn miner.

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October 09, 2013, 08:00:21 AM
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cgminer keep show me accepted by FPGA 21 works, but onlt 0 submitted
it casue only 10% accept on pool

firstly which firmware are you running?

secondlly join kncminer channel at irc.freeenode.net... you'll find a lot of skilled people there.

as last thing, look at this thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=306969.0

particulary the 5th page

it happen on 91 92 93 firmware
running on 0.90 with only 280ghs atm
i will read your post now , thanks for that mate

you know that? it just happened to me on one go my jups. with fw 0.91. the strange thing is that this miner was running for almost 4 days without problem.
restarting cgminer didn't help. i'll try to do hard reset as soon as someone will do it for me at the colo.


And the FPGA Error once again.
I can tell that this thing is struggling with the lack of adequate airflow now. However it is not as bad as the first firmware v0.9.0

i already took the cover off and it doesnt help
i have a full screen  accepted by FPGA 21 works, but onlt 0/2/5/13 submitted
it's so much fun
i dont even think it has half hot as my 7970 rigs

someone on here stated you should check your fans that they are all oriented correctly on the heatsinks...(maybe the guy was blowing smoke) but from what I gather all fans should be pushing air in a clockwise direction towards the 2 big fans at the end (also setup same way)

I don't have a unit and may not know what i'm talking about..but something to check?

Searing
No you're right.  Couple of the fans fell off in transit, putting them back on I didn't pay attention and accidentally put one in backwards.  If you pull the unit apart and see a fan that has diagonal black plastic bars visible then it is likely on the wrong way.  Good thing is it's as easy as can be to pull off the shroud and turn it around.
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