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October 09, 2013, 04:43:35 AM
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Exactly.... Engineers, not front line shipping managers.  Killing things compared to bfl and Avalon so far.  No reasons to really complain (yet)

The thing I really can't understand is why, with millions in hand in the bank, they didn't just hire a guy that was a logistics specialist? Short term contract, a few grand. That way they get to concentrate on the things they are expert on. Same for hosting. Save such a lot of hassle and learn for the future.

It really is a shame.  Especially when they said they knew time was everything in this business.  Somebody, somewhere cheapened out again.

Yes still way ahead of BFL but it is coming down to the wire now where one month delays are catastrophic.  We can't afford the type of delays BFL put us through anymore otherwise we should all just hang up our hats.  Things are going to get really ugly by November, December and beyond.
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October 09, 2013, 04:45:26 AM
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36HRS "IN PROGRESS"

no shipping info. yet.

maybe it's really coming from Saturn.~?

Don't get your hopes up, Im at 80 hours in progress, still not shipped. I think they may have stopped production due to the fires.

Has anyone reported a shipped miner today or yesterday?

I am on my way now to pick up mine.

thomashrev89, hey you are picking up in person?

also what was your order#/pay date?

In person yes. #10x paid on friday the week of release.

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October 09, 2013, 04:52:42 AM
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36HRS "IN PROGRESS"

no shipping info. yet.

maybe it's really coming from Saturn.~?

Don't get your hopes up, Im at 80 hours in progress, still not shipped. I think they may have stopped production due to the fires.

Has anyone reported a shipped miner today or yesterday?

I am on my way now to pick up mine.

thomashrev89, hey you are picking up in person?

also what was your order#/pay date?

In person yes. #10x paid on friday the week of release.
just not sure what to think of the shipping queue....waiting it is.
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October 09, 2013, 04:55:02 AM
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36HRS "IN PROGRESS"

no shipping info. yet.

maybe it's really coming from Saturn.~?

Don't get your hopes up, Im at 80 hours in progress, still not shipped. I think they may have stopped production due to the fires.

Has anyone reported a shipped miner today or yesterday?
arousedrhino, what was your order#/pay date, please? thanks.

Preorder Queue# 51XX Signed up for that on June 2nd.

Order# 58X placed on June 3rd.

Payment via PayPal complete June 5th.

Shipping to the West coast of the USA.
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October 09, 2013, 04:59:41 AM
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Exactly.... Engineers, not front line shipping managers.  Killing things compared to bfl and Avalon so far.  No reasons to really complain (yet)

The thing I really can't understand is why, with millions in hand in the bank, they didn't just hire a guy that was a logistics specialist? Short term contract, a few grand. That way they get to concentrate on the things they are expert on. Same for hosting. Save such a lot of hassle and learn for the future.

It really is a shame.  Especially when they said they knew time was everything in this business.  Somebody, somewhere cheapened out again.

Yes still way ahead of BFL but it is coming down to the wire now where one month delays are catastrophic.  We can't afford the type of delays BFL put us through anymore otherwise we should all just hang up our hats.  Things are going to get really ugly by November, December and beyond.

Agreed. People compare everything to BFL, but that's like saying Saddam was a good guy 'cos he didn't murder as many people are Hitler.


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October 09, 2013, 05:02:38 AM
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Exactly.... Engineers, not front line shipping managers.  Killing things compared to bfl and Avalon so far.  No reasons to really complain (yet)

The thing I really can't understand is why, with millions in hand in the bank, they didn't just hire a guy that was a logistics specialist? Short term contract, a few grand. That way they get to concentrate on the things they are expert on. Same for hosting. Save such a lot of hassle and learn for the future.

It really is a shame.  Especially when they said they knew time was everything in this business.  Somebody, somewhere cheapened out again.

Yes still way ahead of BFL but it is coming down to the wire now where one month delays are catastrophic.  We can't afford the type of delays BFL put us through anymore otherwise we should all just hang up our hats.  Things are going to get really ugly by November, December and beyond.

Agreed. People compare everything to BFL, but that's like saying Saddam was a good guy 'cos he didn't murder as many people are Hitler.




ding ding ding "we have a winner"....(or proof this conversation has gone on too long as per link below)


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October 09, 2013, 05:03:36 AM
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I will be there to buy your hardware for pennies on the dollar if you tried to roi and failed catastrophicly to feed my ppc habit or even Newfound sht coin habit.  Just wait till December if knc  follows through: they will forever have earned more renown than gen1 basic vendors in my book.

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October 09, 2013, 05:06:44 AM
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Exactly.... Engineers, not front line shipping managers.  Killing things compared to bfl and Avalon so far.  No reasons to really complain (yet)

The thing I really can't understand is why, with millions in hand in the bank, they didn't just hire a guy that was a logistics specialist? Short term contract, a few grand. That way they get to concentrate on the things they are expert on. Same for hosting. Save such a lot of hassle and learn for the future.

It really is a shame.  Especially when they said they knew time was everything in this business.  Somebody, somewhere cheapened out again.

Yes still way ahead of BFL but it is coming down to the wire now where one month delays are catastrophic.  We can't afford the type of delays BFL put us through anymore otherwise we should all just hang up our hats.  Things are going to get really ugly by November, December and beyond.

Agreed. People compare everything to BFL, but that's like saying Saddam was a good guy 'cos he didn't murder as many people are Hitler.




ding ding ding "we have a winner"....(or proof this conversation has gone on too long as per link below)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law


heh Godwin's law proves that humans are "funny creatures" at least in arguments



Learned my new thing for the day  Grin

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October 09, 2013, 05:31:47 AM
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So where do you guys place Bitfury in terms of delivering on promise schedule as per them Huh
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October 09, 2013, 05:47:18 AM
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If i don't get one of my two jupiters by Friday, I am going to hack this site.
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October 09, 2013, 05:50:40 AM
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So where do you guys place Bitfury in terms of delivering on promise schedule as per them Huh


That issue in terms of 'delivery" has a harsh meaning to us former BFL customers (probably down 8K) I ordered my stuff in April 2013 (the same month KNC became a company and posted such)...and it is still gonna be 3 weeks at best for my 65gh from BFL (sorry I digress)

So if I remember right "Bitfury" may be legitimate as heck...but I don't think they take Paypal , Paypal with credit cards nor do they I think take regular credit cards like KNC ...so once burnt I'll stay away till such happens..I did a bank xfer with BFL and could have easily gotten my $$$ back by reversing charges at this point...but w/o a credit card or even using your banks debit card (usually have a cc mine is backed by visa) .....I am crap out of luck....

I'm not gonna play that game ever again ...so learn from my mistakes..only pay by credit card.....look at TerraHash as far as I can determine the chip maker was at fault and did not get him the chips ..I think it was Avalon...so even if the mnfg is legit stuff can still happen where  you hold the bag.

IMHO the asic mnfg companies are gonna have to step it up and do as KNC has done at least paypal with cc and direct cc payment as well.

on a side note people tout Cointerra ...and cointerra flaunts the fact it has high tech people and big money behind their product (not harsh I wish them luck) but for asic mining companies to blow smoke and say they can't get paypal or cc options for their customers is a bunch of hoohey


KNC got cc direct payment visa master card and paypal  and got the paypal cc option like 1 month after they STARTED the company and a couple months later got direct cc payment

and KNC has only existed maybe 6 months...

anyway to me it smells that so many 'choose' not to have paypal or cc options imho..want you to have ALL the risk...

so will stay away from anything that is not KNC  who has stated they can't get  cc options  or paypal imho...for the time being I'd rather wait on KNC  

and of course anyone reading this does not know about BFL google them ..you will see to run away....they take paypal but don't deliver for more then 1yr

anyway

live an learn from my mistake

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October 09, 2013, 06:09:06 AM
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In case anyone is still looking for a powersupply.

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/103844/newegg---1000w-cooler-master-v1000-80-gold-modular-power-supply
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October 09, 2013, 06:42:25 AM
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nope. Have a corsair ax760 waiting for it at home.

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October 09, 2013, 06:59:44 AM
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So where do you guys place Bitfury in terms of delivering on promise schedule as per them Huh


That issue in terms of 'delivery" has a harsh meaning to us former BFL customers (probably down 8K) I ordered my stuff in April 2013 (the same month KNC became a company and posted such)...and it is still gonna be 3 weeks at best for my 65gh from BFL (sorry I digress)

So if I remember right "Bitfury" may be legitimate as heck...but I don't think they take Paypal , Paypal with credit cards nor do they I think take regular credit cards like KNC ...so once burnt I'll stay away till such happens..I did a bank xfer with BFL and could have easily gotten my $$$ back by reversing charges at this point...but w/o a credit card or even using your banks debit card (usually have a cc mine is backed by visa) .....I am crap out of luck....

I'm not gonna play that game ever again ...so learn from my mistakes..only pay by credit card.....look at TerraHash as far as I can determine the chip maker was at fault and did not get him the chips ..I think it was Avalon...so even if the mnfg is legit stuff can still happen where  you hold the bag.

IMHO the asic mnfg companies are gonna have to step it up and do as KNC has done at least paypal with cc and direct cc payment as well.

on a side note people tout Cointerra ...and cointerra flaunts the fact it has high tech people and big money behind their product (not harsh I wish them luck) but for asic mining companies to blow smoke and say they can't get paypal or cc options for their customers is a bunch of hoohey


KNC got cc direct payment visa master card and paypal  and got the paypal cc option like 1 month after they STARTED the company and a couple months later got direct cc payment

and KNC has only existed maybe 6 months...

anyway to me it smells that so many 'choose' not to have paypal or cc options imho..want you to have ALL the risk...

so will stay away from anything that is not KNC  who has stated they can't get  cc options  or paypal imho...for the time being I'd rather wait on KNC  

and of course anyone reading this does not know about BFL google them ..you will see to run away....they take paypal but don't deliver for more then 1yr

anyway

live an learn from my mistake

my 2c worth
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I see this statement an awful lot... "I will only use a credit card to buy ASIC miners."

Huh

So what good are Bitcoins if the people who mine them won't even use them to make purchases?!  It sounds like we don't really have a need for BTC.  Credit cards are good enough, apparently.

 
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October 09, 2013, 07:02:23 AM
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cgminer keep show me accepted by FPGA 21 works, but onlt 0 submitted
it casue only 10% accept on pool
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October 09, 2013, 07:04:39 AM
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So where do you guys place Bitfury in terms of delivering on promise schedule as per them Huh


That issue in terms of 'delivery" has a harsh meaning to us former BFL customers (probably down 8K) I ordered my stuff in April 2013 (the same month KNC became a company and posted such)...and it is still gonna be 3 weeks at best for my 65gh from BFL (sorry I digress)

So if I remember right "Bitfury" may be legitimate as heck...but I don't think they take Paypal , Paypal with credit cards nor do they I think take regular credit cards like KNC ...so once burnt I'll stay away till such happens..I did a bank xfer with BFL and could have easily gotten my $$$ back by reversing charges at this point...but w/o a credit card or even using your banks debit card (usually have a cc mine is backed by visa) .....I am crap out of luck....

I'm not gonna play that game ever again ...so learn from my mistakes..only pay by credit card.....look at TerraHash as far as I can determine the chip maker was at fault and did not get him the chips ..I think it was Avalon...so even if the mnfg is legit stuff can still happen where  you hold the bag.

IMHO the asic mnfg companies are gonna have to step it up and do as KNC has done at least paypal with cc and direct cc payment as well.

on a side note people tout Cointerra ...and cointerra flaunts the fact it has high tech people and big money behind their product (not harsh I wish them luck) but for asic mining companies to blow smoke and say they can't get paypal or cc options for their customers is a bunch of hoohey


KNC got cc direct payment visa master card and paypal  and got the paypal cc option like 1 month after they STARTED the company and a couple months later got direct cc payment

and KNC has only existed maybe 6 months...

anyway to me it smells that so many 'choose' not to have paypal or cc options imho..want you to have ALL the risk...

so will stay away from anything that is not KNC  who has stated they can't get  cc options  or paypal imho...for the time being I'd rather wait on KNC  

and of course anyone reading this does not know about BFL google them ..you will see to run away....they take paypal but don't deliver for more then 1yr

anyway

live an learn from my mistake

my 2c worth
Searing


I see this statement an awful lot... "I will only use a credit card to buy ASIC miners."

So what good are Bitcoins if the people who mine them won't even use them to make purchases?!  It sounds like we don't really have a need for BTC.  Credit cards are good enough, apparently.

 Huh

I think there are plans to improve bitcoin with such ..i'm just saying been burnt bad ..will wait till there is some kinda fire dept in place (reputable refund plan) at least with the asic manufacturer's kinda sick of taking all the pain an risk with there endeavors w/o any consequences for them in the long run

anyway read somewhere recently they are considering changing the protocol of bitcoins to allow such ...can't remember where it is now thou was within the last few days
















 

 

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October 09, 2013, 07:06:09 AM
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cgminer keep show me accepted by FPGA 21 works, but onlt 0 submitted
it casue only 10% accept on pool
Same problem with 2 of my jupiter.
KnC says this will be fixed in the next firmware which schould came out yersterday...
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October 09, 2013, 07:12:05 AM
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cgminer keep show me accepted by FPGA 21 works, but onlt 0 submitted
it casue only 10% accept on pool

firstly which firmware are you running?

secondlly join kncminer channel at irc.freeenode.net... you'll find a lot of skilled people there.

as last thing, look at this thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=306969.0

particulary the 5th page

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October 09, 2013, 07:12:46 AM
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there needs to be an escro service for asic companys

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October 09, 2013, 07:13:19 AM
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So where do you guys place Bitfury in terms of delivering on promise schedule as per them Huh


That issue in terms of 'delivery" has a harsh meaning to us former BFL customers (probably down 8K) I ordered my stuff in April 2013 (the same month KNC became a company and posted such)...and it is still gonna be 3 weeks at best for my 65gh from BFL (sorry I digress)

So if I remember right "Bitfury" may be legitimate as heck...but I don't think they take Paypal , Paypal with credit cards nor do they I think take regular credit cards like KNC ...so once burnt I'll stay away till such happens..I did a bank xfer with BFL and could have easily gotten my $$$ back by reversing charges at this point...but w/o a credit card or even using your banks debit card (usually have a cc mine is backed by visa) .....I am crap out of luck....

I'm not gonna play that game ever again ...so learn from my mistakes..only pay by credit card.....look at TerraHash as far as I can determine the chip maker was at fault and did not get him the chips ..I think it was Avalon...so even if the mnfg is legit stuff can still happen where  you hold the bag.

IMHO the asic mnfg companies are gonna have to step it up and do as KNC has done at least paypal with cc and direct cc payment as well.

on a side note people tout Cointerra ...and cointerra flaunts the fact it has high tech people and big money behind their product (not harsh I wish them luck) but for asic mining companies to blow smoke and say they can't get paypal or cc options for their customers is a bunch of hoohey


KNC got cc direct payment visa master card and paypal  and got the paypal cc option like 1 month after they STARTED the company and a couple months later got direct cc payment

and KNC has only existed maybe 6 months...

anyway to me it smells that so many 'choose' not to have paypal or cc options imho..want you to have ALL the risk...

so will stay away from anything that is not KNC  who has stated they can't get  cc options  or paypal imho...for the time being I'd rather wait on KNC  

and of course anyone reading this does not know about BFL google them ..you will see to run away....they take paypal but don't deliver for more then 1yr

anyway

live an learn from my mistake

my 2c worth
Searing


I see this statement an awful lot... "I will only use a credit card to buy ASIC miners."

Huh

So what good are Bitcoins if the people who mine them won't even use them to make purchases?!  It sounds like we don't really have a need for BTC.  Credit cards are good enough, apparently.

 

If and when ASICs are like other items and can be bought off the shelf, using BTC will be fine. It's just too risky buying them at all right now so CC makes more sense for protection. Cash would be the same if you were buying something that might go tits up like a holiday. In fact, buying something with cash vs CC which gets you added protection is the same thing ..risk eliminated for no extra cost.
It's not bitcoin that needs to change it's the risky model we have for selling ASICs. Too many large losses aren't there? Sad

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