Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[Paladin69]

^^ 50btc was hit by another dos attack today. I was down for about an hour
40deg and 38deg temps on my Saturn (case cover off)
just upgraded to .094 and hash rate is a little slower but HW errors are at 10% . I purposely stayed on 0.91 before this as the results from the other 2 firmware patches didn't look too good. around 5% HW errors on 0.91

Agreed, the Jupiters I have on 0.91 are the fastest without any doubt. I have none on 0.90, most on 0.91, none on 0.92, two on 0.93 and one on 0.94.

So far 0.91 is the real deal IMO.

I wonder what firmware the guy whose boards caught fire was running.

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[warhawk187]

Just got my UPS tracking number for my Saturn, expected delivery tomorrow to NY. Wish I had enough to order a Jupiter or 10.

KnCMiner = Under promise, over deliver. ASIC manufacturer of the year award can go to them now.

And Bitcoinorama, thanks for all the insightful information.

[timmmers]

Saturn #1
"Out for Delivery"  
I'll be camping out at the end of my driveway today....

Very wise given some of the things I've seen today, me too when my turn comes

[Rampion]

Agreed, the Jupiters I have on 0.91 are the fastest without any doubt. I have none on 0.90, most on 0.91, none on 0.92, two on 0.93 and one on 0.94.

So far 0.91 is the real deal IMO.

wow, how many machines you have?.)

I think O'Rama packed my boxes, ask him

[Rampion]

^^ 50btc was hit by another dos attack today. I was down for about an hour
40deg and 38deg temps on my Saturn (case cover off)
just upgraded to .094 and hash rate is a little slower but HW errors are at 10% . I purposely stayed on 0.91 before this as the results from the other 2 firmware patches didn't look too good. around 5% HW errors on 0.91

Agreed, the Jupiters I have on 0.91 are the fastest without any doubt. I have none on 0.90, most on 0.91, none on 0.92, two on 0.93 and one on 0.94.

So far 0.91 is the real deal IMO.

I wonder what firmware the guy whose boards caught fire was running.

0.92

[FUKT]

Hey KNC/Bitcoinorama. It's time for an update.

You are still shipping orders 1-750 (or at least the first 750 units regardless of order number). The original deadline for shipping ALLLLLL units was October 15th.

That means in the next 4 working days you have to produce and ship 3000+ orders (ballpark figure).

That's not going to happen. You said that yourselves, that you can only produce a few hundred per day.

It's about time we had a proper update, with adjusted and REALISTIC shipping schedule, based on the state of play at the production facility.

Your pride seems too wounded to tell us why it's taken 9 days and still only shipping day1 units, rather than the thousands that were promised by now.

This "we'll sort it ourselves, we won't say anything until it's done" attitude is costing everyone time, money and unnecessary stress.

Drop the wounded pride/ego and honestly update us.

There are a lot of brilliant people on this forum who could and will help if you allow them in.

Guys can you chill a bit pls? You're just winding yourselves up. This is more than a little stressful, but they are still working around the clock. I personally have had to take a day out as my bodyclock was ruined after such little sleep last week, culminating in such a brief trip to the US.

I'm still trying to sort my head out and work out whether I plan to stick around in Sweden for a bit longer, permanently, or not.

With that said you're well aware that what was achieved was momentous, no one has partied yet, and these guys are working around the clock to have these units in you hands. They have not done anything underhand at anypoint, so whilst one can share sympathy for those mistrusting and burnt by companies before, this is absolutely not what's happening here, so drop the conspiracies. It's a mega hardworking bunch of guys working as close to 24/7 as their bodies physically allow and unforeseeable issues will occur, the best resolution is to adapt fast and remain calm. Sam is still confident to hit 15th Oct. Chinese whispers and ballpark assumptions of 3,000+ orders are nowhere close, so that just generates FUD. There's actually approx a 1,000 units left. There has been over local 100 pick-ups (well 100 units picked-up), over 400 physically shipped, and a chunk dedicated to hosting.

KnC has no covert mining operation. KnC actually has no mining for themselves currently, at all. I stated this before; they may mine dependent on what chips are left subsequent to customer units first shipped out, and what returns need to be handled. The issue there is more controller boards though, as Mercury takes the same amount as Saturn, and Jupiter; one. Where as the number of ASICs vary from 1-4.

Yes there are freshly generated coins entering the wallet the refunds came from. That's not a covert mining farm minting coins to refund. That's your hosted devices up, and running. Hosting is live. The issue is configuring the API to your accounts and that is being sorted now. So those minted coins, approx. 175 were put towards the coins creditied. However the total credited will now equal 380 BTC today, so that's 205BTC paid from KnC themselves in addition to what's been generated. There a few additional coins to credit today as there was a mix-up with some guys in possession of multiple miners that were overlooked by mistake and that's being rectified. Hopefully you will be able to access your accounts very soon, but the pool works. The fact is each board has an individual owner and that owner has to be able to configure certain aspects of each board, choice of pool etc. You are therefore not given a proportional 'virtual' share of what's hosted, but actual physical and configurable boards located in your own physical space in the hosting center; i.e. your own board(s), and thus these need to be individually assigned, and that is considerably more laborious than originally expected.

Hope the above settles your nerves a bit, but understand this is a huge undertaking for anyone, and there are enough bodies on the case, that was never in question, moreover too many cooks would almost certainly spoil the broth. KnC want nothing more than this to be done right, and do care about getting your orders both in hand and online. Please appreciate what's been done, and what's currently being resolved is a considerable amount of work, and that no one is resting until that is complete.

Although to be fair I personally, had to take a day off as my central nervous system was fried after traveling multiple time zones, and sleep deprivation, as well as to hug my unworn clothing I hadn't seen for a week. I hadn't come to Sweden prepared to be thrown head first into this.

Here's a video of how the boards are populated I uploaded last wk, but forgot to share prior btw; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFfAHjSmlZM

Also i'm going to try and make the Stockholm meet today which should be in a couple of hours if I can. No idea who, or what to look for though...

I smell bullshit.

[ImI]

^^ 50btc was hit by another dos attack today. I was down for about an hour
40deg and 38deg temps on my Saturn (case cover off)
just upgraded to .094 and hash rate is a little slower but HW errors are at 10% . I purposely stayed on 0.91 before this as the results from the other 2 firmware patches didn't look too good. around 5% HW errors on 0.91

Agreed, the Jupiters I have on 0.91 are the fastest without any doubt. I have none on 0.90, most on 0.91, none on 0.92, two on 0.93 and one on 0.94.

So far 0.91 is the real deal IMO.

I wonder what firmware the guy whose boards caught fire was running.

0.92

in fact we had 4 fires/burnt caps so far

2 x 0.92
1 x 0.93
1 x 0.94 (this one today at the datacenter of anotherhosting.se)

[Xialla]

2 x 0.92
1 x 0.93
1 x 0.94 (this one today at the datacenter of anotherhosting.se)

uhh, what is ambient temp? this is so scary...

[DPoS]

Saturn #1
"Out for Delivery"  
I'll be camping out at the end of my driveway today....

Very wise given some of the things I've seen today, me too when my turn comes

 I made sure to switch mine to 'Hold for Pick Up' at the UPS location...  didn't want it rumbling on a truck all day and picked it up 8am EST

[bobsmoke]

...
Yes there are freshly generated coins entering the wallet the refunds came from. That's not a covert mining farm minting coins to refund. That's your hosted devices up, and running. Hosting is live. The issue is configuring the API to your accounts and that is being sorted now.
...

Thanks for this detailed explanation. It's much better than any information I did receive vie e-mail from KnC.
(But getting some info today about the hosting via e-mail made me calm down as well.)

I assume this is the "wallet" address, or?

http://blockchain.info/de/address/1D5FhoiuLMJJ43BCMGidwvbKWfr71g1vH9

I still did not quite understand the current "setup" - I assume it's something like this:

All customer miners in the hosting facility were configured to the new KnC (or some other?) pool with the above
wallet address. KnC did a semi-manual payout for all customers of 2,5BTC per Saturn and 5BTC per Jupiter.
This static setup will continue to mine until the web-frontend for the customers is ready.
At that point the owners can re-configure their miners with whatever (single   ) pool they want.
When the dust did settle there will be an update for the web frontend that will allow the configuration of a backup
mining pool as well or KnC will perform a manual setup of the backup mining pool  

A short confirmation would make me (and hopefully many others as well) happy  

I have two day 1 jupiters that are hosted and have not received any BTC..  did everyone get a payout?

I got my BTC today regarding 5 days of compensation...however I still dont have the login details for the pool..do you?

[Paladin69]

^^ 50btc was hit by another dos attack today. I was down for about an hour
40deg and 38deg temps on my Saturn (case cover off)
just upgraded to .094 and hash rate is a little slower but HW errors are at 10% . I purposely stayed on 0.91 before this as the results from the other 2 firmware patches didn't look too good. around 5% HW errors on 0.91

Agreed, the Jupiters I have on 0.91 are the fastest without any doubt. I have none on 0.90, most on 0.91, none on 0.92, two on 0.93 and one on 0.94.

So far 0.91 is the real deal IMO.

I wonder what firmware the guy whose boards caught fire was running.

0.92

in fact we had 4 fires/burnt caps so far

2 x 0.92
1 x 0.93
1 x 0.94 (this one today at the datacenter of anotherhosting.se)

Sounds like I'm installing 0.91

[Rampion]

FYI: I'm officially downgrading my two units running on 0.94. The temps on the webui are nice, but after 12 hours of testing I can say clearly that 0.94 heavily decreased the hashrate of my miners. It took a beast that run at 540GH/s average for almost a week on 0.91 to a pitiful 490/500GH/s. THe other miner ran stable at around 520GH/s, now below 500GH/s.

Its a pity I only have remote access now, so I can only downgrade to 0.93 - 0.91 is the best with no doubt... And I proved all versions for long on multiple machines.  

[ImI]

2 x 0.92
1 x 0.93
1 x 0.94 (this one today at the datacenter of anotherhosting.se)

uhh, what is ambient temp? this is so scary...

i dunno but that guy from anotherhosting said they have ac with 70kw

[torrentheaven]

KnCMiner = Under promise, over deliver. ASIC manufacturer of the year award can go to them now.

I agree, is there any voting pool ? 

[Jaymax]

^^ 50btc was hit by another dos attack today. I was down for about an hour
40deg and 38deg temps on my Saturn (case cover off)
just upgraded to .094 and hash rate is a little slower but HW errors are at 10% . I purposely stayed on 0.91 before this as the results from the other 2 firmware patches didn't look too good. around 5% HW errors on 0.91

Agreed, the Jupiters I have on 0.91 are the fastest without any doubt. I have none on 0.90, most on 0.91, none on 0.92, two on 0.93 and one on 0.94.

So far 0.91 is the real deal IMO.

I wonder what firmware the guy whose boards caught fire was running.

0.92

in fact we had 4 fires/burnt caps so far

2 x 0.92
1 x 0.93
1 x 0.94 (this one today at the datacenter of anotherhosting.se)

Was it always the same or equivalent cap - by my earlier glance it looked to be always at the same end of a series on the board?

There was mention somewhere of 'cricket' noises coming not from the fan but from the ASIC - my suggestion would be that it might have been coming from a capacitor?

A very cautious finger could be used to check cap temps generally - capacitors should generally not run very hot I think ? - and so one that is hotter than the rest might forewarn a problem.  Also, if it's possible that firmware plays a part in this (and firmware was having something to do with noise) then upgrading firmware might only be done after the capacitor is damaged.  

[WastedLTC]

I got my BTC today regarding 5 days of compensation...however I still dont have the login details for the pool..do you?

i got nothing.  no btc and no login info... no responses from support.   (2 day 1 hosted jupiters)

[Aggrophobia]

obviously they are saving parts, i got only 4 voltage regulators instead of 8 per board
this causes high temperatures and high power consumption...(and lower Hashrate)

[squish]

obviously they are saving parts, i got only 4 voltage regulators instead of 8 per board
this causes high temperatures and high power consumption...(and lower Hashrate)

That's interesting.  Only 4 of the 8 are actually working anyway (as seen with bertmod).  They probably realised this and decided not to pointlessly install 8.  As such, it shouldn't make any difference.

[Bitcoinorama]

obviously they are saving parts, i got only 4 voltage regulators instead of 8 per board
this causes high temperatures and high power consumption...(and lower Hashrate)

That's interesting.  Only 4 of the 8 are actually working anyway (as seen with bertmod).  They probably realised this and decided not to pointlessly install 8.  As such, it shouldn't make any difference.

Margins. Turns out they weren't necessary. Hence the welcome drop in wattage at the wall.

[The Avenger]

It's all in the details, literally.

How about a clear answer to my 2 numbered questions above?

Bump.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg3307588#msg3307588

Surely with your obsession for detail, it must be eating you up not to reply to these?

P.S. KNC still shipping in those unsuitable single walled boxes? Three whole questions for you to answer, in detail.

P.P.S. How come on the controller board there are 6 terminals, but shipped miners are only being shipped with 4 in place? Four questions, awaiting details!

Bump bump.


Questions consolidated for our details man who loves to give people what they want:

How about some answers to these questions:
1. How come the sub-standard cgminer from KNC?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=18313.msg3294238#msg3294238
This post suggests the KNC version is not doing a proper work restart. Any reason KNC are spending 9 days releasing firmware updates that doesn't even fix these issues? I'm fairly sure the guys who wrote cgminer could sort this quick fast.

1.5 Update: It seems the binary for knc cgminer has not been updated at all in any of the firmware updates (source: irc). How come? There is plenty to fix.

2. How come boards are bbq'ing?
I know you wrote a post a few days ago trying to blame people for unplugging cables while the miner was still powered up, but that was scapegoating. There is plenty speculation on the hardware issues causing, but a total no-answer on this from you/KNC. Customers are worried about burning to death in their sleep.

3. Are KNC still shipping in those unsuitable single walled boxes?

4. How come on the controller board there are 6 terminals, but shipped miners are only being shipped with 4 in place?

Five questions, awaiting details! thx