To dig this back up bc there's nothing constructive here anyway...
rants and raves
So taking orders and then announcing POSSIBLE delays automagically equates to fraud? Where is this guaranteed delay, by the way? I've seen mention of a potential delay ..but I didn't have to read their newsletter to realize that possibility.
I'm not sure who would believe that bullshit. I'm also not sure what type of complete fool would even entertain the notion, whether one was implied or not, that any company making a multi-million dollar investment to be a purely altruistic contingency. According to your own logic, if they were so insidiously brilliant enough to have cooked up a master plan to siphon their megamine seed money from Jupiter orders, build more capital under fraudulent promises for Neptune and all the while keeping their "Plan B, but really Plan A" scheme under wraps, make up a lie to cock-block their customers from spending coin on other options, and then to suddenly unveil their true face of greed and corruption -and actually expect people to buy into a story that such a facility as this is ONLY a "just in case" backup plan for their customers. There are two types of fools here. The ones who believed this "lie" and the ones who entertained the thought of it. Where exactly did KnC explicitly say the facility was ONLY a backup for their customers? I seem to remember KnC admitting to selling all unallocated hashing quite soon after Plan B was announced. Oh yea, there's clearly some smoke and mirrors at work here.
Regarding Q1 delivery -completely irrelevant argument. Q2 delivery was always a given possibility.
Never did I make decisions or expectations based off some 'warm fuzzy feeling' that Sam, or the folks at KnC, were "good people" that are looking out for MY well being. Putting MY best interests before their own. If anything, all I do gather from those emails with Sam was that he was honest and upfront. He basically told me only a month after their entrance into the market and MONTHS before their first product, "we are going to build and sell cloudhashing from a datacenter".
You clearly haven't kept up with the entire thread, and the KNC forums, or spoken to any insiders, or Bitcoinorama.
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Referring you back to my first response above.
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Again, referencing my first response. It's as if you haven't studied any of the facts at all. And I'm not just talking of the last 20 pages.. or even 500. All of it.
And then there's vesper. Haha Wow, thanks for your input. Not only did you take the time to say 3 times how I'm clearly clueless about anything, you failed to give any constructive reasoning why. Well done.
They aren't leaving an AFFORDABLE option, if you include context of ROI with 'affordable'.
When did we ever start defining affordability in the context of a potential for profit? ..lol I could redefine all kinds of words to better suit my arguments too.
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I return to my very first point I made prior; WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE YET.
-Where are my FINAL specs on Neptune hash speed? I can assume it is 3Th -but didn't Jupiter start at 250Gh?
-Where are my FINAL specs on electrical efficiency? I can assume only marginal improvement vs. Jupiter
-Where are my FINAL dates of delivery? I can assume it'll be the last week in June ..or December
-Where are my FINAL details in regards to the cloudhashing option? Is it a complete forfeiture of my Neptune? Will the relative speed of cloudhashing always reflect updated Neptune specs? When exactly does the compensatory cloudhashing for Batch 1a begin?
Is it completely impossible to consider a scenario in which the Neptune at the time of release is 6 (or more) Th? Is it completely impossible to consider that IF each Neptune was indeed 6Th, that in order to provide a possible Plan B to all existing preorders, ~22Ph must be rolled out in their datacenter? Is it completely impossible to consider that IF they had to roll out a 22Ph safety net, they realized they simply didn't have the Jupiter production capacity to both provide said backup plan AND sell Jupiters and new modules?
(By the way, a 6Th machine, released at a 15 billion difficulty with 1 billion difficulty jumps (that's ~7Ph added to network) on an EVERY WEEK basis, that machine will mine 13 BTC in 3 months)
Again, before vesper, avenger, and whoever else jump on my nuts, I'm NOT ADVOCATING FOR KnC. I FULLY acknowledge the previously given scenario MAY NOT occur; that KnC MAY have knowingly, and according to plan, created a black empire of death, that Neptune MAY eek out 3Th and be delivered on December 31. I know KnC broke their promises to you and your feelings are hurt now, but what I can't understand is how you've come to the conclusion that all the reasoning for these broken promises (withheld Jups; Net Protection agreement lies; blah blah) could have ONLY come from a scheme, a collusion to screw everyone and build their empire from the pockets of their customers. I'm not saying they DIDN'T, just to reiterate bc you all seem so excited make selective inferences that serve your mood swing of the moment.
Would either of you, or the handful of the other loud bitching mouths here, even be able to acknowledge the POSSIBILITY of scenarios that exist outside of your own narrow views?
