I'm out running errands right now, I'll get you the measurements in a few hours.
AWESOME!
and you know what, I just figured out!!!! NO WONDER peoples PCIe cables get fried left and right on thse things.
Now that weve exposed cube power consumption is much closer to 300w ... its a no brainer! The poor lil PCIe 6pin power connector, as per molex's website can deliver up to 275w safely @ 12v .... these poor things are running on the verge of meltdown 24/7 essentially! LOL
Not to mention we already run the DCDC's beyond spec of their current deliver capabilities! LOL!
Im sure glad I never figured out how to OC beyond 325mhz ... peoples cubes would be melting left and right!
FU KNC for being a bunch of cheap bastards! shoulda went w/ an 8pin connector or maybe even 2x 6pin per cube! ...
NOTE: Rant Below! Title of Rant: "How to be the best evil asic genius type of company you can!" You don't like my rants put me on /ignore I don't mind
Yeah again from what I understand following the old KNC forums (others correct me if this is incorrect) is the following:
The original Titan was 250mh but due to delays they then upped it to 300mh (standard) it was only AFTER they had the bad die issues etc that they told folk
it was OK to run them at 325mh or over clock them in my case in KNC forums PM with tech staff 1 month after I got my Nov 6th unit more or less.
....so due to late delivery imho and the fact they were 'designed' again imho with an over capacity
at 250mh.....well......the initial push to 300mh was do'able ......they could up the speed a bit and toot their own horn as a result in that it was 'overbuilt' on the
original 250mh speed....then they got stuck with bad product design and no slack in the setup when they pushed it beyond that point when they had bad die
issues and other problems with the Titans....a step to far so to speak
But with problems with 1 batch dies and such out of the gate for the Titans...they then upped that an'ti again and made the (in reality) the previous OVERCLOCKED setting of 325mh
the standard settings on the dies was an act of desperation to make up for the lateness of the delivery..... by touting the increase in speed....and the crappy construction
of the 1st batch units especially (late) and the first couple months....they of course had to push it as far as possible to play 'catch up"
To top it all off...knc probably figured it was no big deal to do so also from an RMA point of view.
They originally claimed (a change from 1 year not touted) that TitansONLY had a 90 day warranty...so this would have worked well on them not having RMA issues and the customers being stuck...but they neglected to change their warranty info on their web page for a month (still said 1 year) and of course the firestorm of the 1st batch titan units being crappy out of the gate ..they backtracked and made the warranty 1 year again. Said it was from the kindness of their hearts was really because of all the first batch units ordered that first month they had prob 1/2 90 day warranty and 1/2 1 year..so they made everyone 1 year..but again it was from the mistake on the web page on ordering and people had proof so they were kinda stuck.
I always keep in mind these raspberry pi piece of crap 8th grade science project units ...were 'designed' to only last 90 days or a bit more.....The fact my Titan(s) both
Nov 2014 units probably will go beyond 1 year in 2 weeks is a frigging asic miracle imho (you have to take what you can get from all this positive wise)
So to sum it up there was no slack left in the Titan setup was kicked up from 250 to 300mh .....then in desperation due to all the crap i mention here with the problems they had with the first batc... to the max of 350mh...so it was a big change in policy.....ie run the baby full out over clocked from day one and let crap burn out as it may..if you got over 300mh on your hacked together overclocked unit ....no RMA if only 1 bad die per cube ..your prob still over 300mh (in my case 306.1 with 1 dead die each of 2 cubes) you are out of luck too
I know for a while they would NOT RMA when you burnt out your cube for not using a Y adapter or other issues..they MAY have changed that but I remember a lot of angst
in KNC forums on KNC saying it was a PSU issue etc on your end
It is a frigging miracle the PSU plugs for power on the cubes don't burn out once a week in that they made standard settings/speed imho for 250mh unit and now it is 100mh more then they designed the units for at 250mh (with probably the proper 'over build' of components at that setting vs the totally 'inadequate' way they were move up to) for KNC to cover their ass...and paper over the crap they were pushing. (don't get me started on the first couple months where the firmware sucked a whole nother rant!)
When I got original Titan Nov 6th 2014... this 325mh setting was NOT the norm..... I was only informed of this when 2 dies on 2 different cubes died then I was told this was OK to do by knc techs via knc forum email)..so was not the norm for me .....but due to again the above issues they had with the 1st batch it became the norm......
It also worked out for KNC in that when i tried to get an RMA for 1 dead die on each of 2 cubes they said I still got over 300mh so they would NOT RMA (probably
due to the swamp or RMA's for the issues I've stated above) but that was based on the overclocking of the other cubes to the 325mh setting on advance page..so they
scam'd their way out of doing RMA's on what should have been the standard speed of 300mh by the customers eating the problem and attempting to burn out the
power connectors and other issues.....evil asic geniuses they are indeed!
In my case being told after having the unit a month it was OK to over clock my 300mh settings to on adv page on the Tiitan (then gee guess what I had 2 dies 1 on each cube go dead) then being told by KNC that I should overclock for dead dies the other dies at 325mh ....so I did..it worked...but then I said I want to RMA my cubes... they say we don't RMA cubes with only 1 dead die each and you said you get 306.1mh with your 2 dies set to Off anyway...nor do we do so for any Titans getting over 300mh ...no RMA's (if I would have had 3 dies dead on 3 cubes then as it would be under 300mh then I'd get them RMA'd etc)
So talk about having your cake and eat it too......they tell you to overclock the titans to 325mh settings from their own standard of 300mh and barely designed yet to do and they flake or burn out connectors on your psu cable connector or your cube connector etc or what happens in my case maybe the dies? or you have legit RMA issues at 300mh with 2 dead dies on 2 cubes and then they revise the rules on what is standard (no longer 300mh now 325mh overclocking)or not to tweak the warranty and rma stuff in their favor. Pretty slick way to dodge any real reasponsiblity imho.
Last point in this rant ..they initially said you did NOT have to use Y adapters for your PSU's either .. 300mh on adv page was before they shipped ..just 16 awg wire on PSU's.
after folk started blowing the power couplings up..they then said they recommended such and finally said they would come with your titan....I got 3rd party Y adapters for the psu
before even turning it on.....I got the Y adapters from KNC laying around here that arrived 3-4 months later if I remember correctly....man they really really did not give a damn about customers my guess is they knew at that point (pumping Neptunes in their farm) that we were the end of the home miner consumer chain and they could do as they damn well
pleased I guess...they are their only customer now with the 16nm chip and their newest data hall
well played knc well played (they really do have this whole 'evil genius' thing down don't ya know!)
on a side note the only evil genius flubs that KNC has done imho is 1) why did they keep knc forums up as long as they can before pulling the plug? (I sure wish I would have archived it) and 2) why the hell have they not 'locked' this thread up yet? Other then that ....everything else pretty much seems to have gone their way ..being evil works well I guess
