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October 31, 2015, 09:05:31 PM
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So late to the game everyone - I was powering kfc equipment with a tesla coil AGES ago  Grin Also a look back at the Frankenjup feels relevant at Halloween  Smiley

I've conducted further tests and can now verify that a knc Frankenjup can be powered by a 5 foot tesla coil, (rather than the 13 foot tesla coil I suggested yesterday, that the mods accidentally deleted).



It hashes quite nicely at 3.2TH with mild overclocking, although the smell of ozone and nitrogen oxides means it can only be set up in a building with open ventilation, such as a garage, out-house or abandoned church ruins.

If you need to bring it indoors, then 6x650w Corsair psu's would certainly be a good choice cost-wise, as you'll need 3x 6pin connectors for each of Frankenjups 6 "limbs", i.e. of dead villagers 3x jupiter boards.

If anyone needs any more help or technical advice on this, please feel free to ask. Having had a number of jupiter boards with die0 issues, I have a good deal of experience reanimating the dead.

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November 01, 2015, 12:22:51 AM
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LOL, nice picture

Tesla & Isaac Newton are probably 2 of the top 5 smartest people that ever lived, (no idea who the other 3 were)
What did they have in common? both very religious and both life long bachelors.
Tesla was on a religious fast in the wilderness reading the bible when he conceived the AC motor that eventually started his career and along with numerous other patents & inventions jumpstarted the modern industrial revolution. The DOD is still trying to figure out things he understood over 100 years ago.
There's a self autobiography of tesla and his early life floating around that's hard to find, but real interesting.

fwiw Actor James woods is one of the top 10 smartest people alive today
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 Well this is SOMEWHAT (ducks) off topic but I just found this on www.litecointalk.org that Alcheminer has announced TWO new asic scrypt miners.

 One is 128mh ($1,299) and the other is 512mh ($4,950) and SIX MONTHS for the first batch LOL Smiley

 So unless LTC goes to the moon I can't see it Smiley

 Anyway have a thread on this and a poll feel free to chime in ..just new home asic miners being announced is as rare as a 'unicorn sighting' so I figured
 some folks on here may want to know..if for no other reason then to 'watch the drama' me at those prices and that timeline of 6 months I sure am not
 going for these units myself

here is the link to the other thread on this

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1234027.0

enjoy the drama Smiley

Again others can chime on here on this as well.


edit: re-read the above ...the above alcheminer II plug do they really expect these prices and those speeds to HOLD six months from now? Sure hope LTC booms in price and that alcheminer guy is correct but again imho for home miners this is way, way too long to ship a product at those speeds and those prices imho.

edited the edit above: clarify whom


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"autotune" continues to edge toward a testing release =) .... weeee!
Oh, also in the next release will be "DCDC overcurrent protection"
If any DCDC's are running over 46A, it will issue a hard reset to that cube first time, 2nd time if its still over 46A ... it will clock down that die to 200mhz to alleviate load on the DCDC.

Reason is, I ran into a weird behaviour w/ one of my cubes this weekend, noticed one of the DCDC's had dropped and the other DCDC for a die was taking FULL LOAD for that single die! It was pumping out 50A(horribly so I must say, it was in throttle mode) ... the affected die was at like 40% HW error rate because half of the poor die was effectively not working cuz not enough power to feed it.

This is a dangerous situation for the DCDC's .. so I coded up the above protection =)

God damn, these things are literally RANDOM AS HELL! LOL!

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"autotune" continues to edge toward a testing release =) .... weeee!
Oh, also in the next release will be "DCDC overcurrent protection"
If any DCDC's are running over 46A, it will issue a hard reset to that cube first time, 2nd time if its still over 46A ... it will clock down that die to 200mhz to alleviate load on the DCDC.

Reason is, I ran into a weird behaviour w/ one of my cubes this weekend, noticed one of the DCDC's had dropped and the other DCDC for a die was taking FULL LOAD for that single die! It was pumping out 50A(horribly so I must say, it was in throttle mode) ... the affected die was at like 40% HW error rate because half of the poor die was effectively not working cuz not enough power to feed it.

This is a dangerous situation for the DCDC's .. so I coded up the above protection =)

God damn, these things are literally RANDOM AS HELL! LOL!

Haven't seen that one yet, hope I never do

So did it recover? Did it need a hard reset? or Cold restart?
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"autotune" continues to edge toward a testing release =) .... weeee!
Oh, also in the next release will be "DCDC overcurrent protection"
If any DCDC's are running over 46A, it will issue a hard reset to that cube first time, 2nd time if its still over 46A ... it will clock down that die to 200mhz to alleviate load on the DCDC.

Reason is, I ran into a weird behaviour w/ one of my cubes this weekend, noticed one of the DCDC's had dropped and the other DCDC for a die was taking FULL LOAD for that single die! It was pumping out 50A(horribly so I must say, it was in throttle mode) ... the affected die was at like 40% HW error rate because half of the poor die was effectively not working cuz not enough power to feed it.

This is a dangerous situation for the DCDC's .. so I coded up the above protection =)

God damn, these things are literally RANDOM AS HELL! LOL!

Haven't seen that one yet, hope I never do

So did it recover? Did it need a hard reset? or Cold restart?

Issuing a hard reset to the cube brought the DCDC back =)
Hence thats why I coded up a hard reset first, followed by underclocking the die if needed.

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November 03, 2015, 08:13:34 AM
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"autotune" continues to edge toward a testing release =) .... weeee!
Oh, also in the next release will be "DCDC overcurrent protection"
If any DCDC's are running over 46A, it will issue a hard reset to that cube first time, 2nd time if its still over 46A ... it will clock down that die to 200mhz to alleviate load on the DCDC.

Reason is, I ran into a weird behaviour w/ one of my cubes this weekend, noticed one of the DCDC's had dropped and the other DCDC for a die was taking FULL LOAD for that single die! It was pumping out 50A(horribly so I must say, it was in throttle mode) ... the affected die was at like 40% HW error rate because half of the poor die was effectively not working cuz not enough power to feed it.

This is a dangerous situation for the DCDC's .. so I coded up the above protection =)
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God damn, these things are literally RANDOM AS HELL! LOL!


Yeah...it is better off I don't know what the hell is going on with my 2 Titans.....it would probably scare the hell out of me...I find if you don't make direct eye contact in any manner they won't spook...but mine take an hour just to get all the cubes and dies back on any reset in power or reset in firmware...this of course is not counting the times they try to obtain the 'sweet release of oblivion' and try to brick themselves for no discernible reason that I can tell (reboot and play an hour to get all back up and going again) I swear it is like an ASIC version of a Hamster wheel......(then again look at how they were built ..the Titans and Neptunes....a frigging 8th grade raspberry pi science fair project...with the original 3 month warranty ...I should pray to the ASIC gods each night...they still run in some manner...it will be 1 year since they shipped (orig one and used one both Nov units...the orig unit I got on Nov 6th 2014..months late with sh*tty firmware for 2 months at the start....its a frigging 'miner' miracle..the lcd lights still work Smiley

But no really ..how/why/what/how long/when etc these Titans do what they do is a mystery and guite frankly scare the piss out of me ..again refrain from direct eye contact in my basement when doing laundry.....or god forbid 'touching them' in a reboot (shudder .the horror...the panic...the fear) I exaggerator (er not really) Sad

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November 03, 2015, 12:33:23 PM
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"autotune" continues to edge toward a testing release =) .... weeee!
Oh, also in the next release will be "DCDC overcurrent protection"
If any DCDC's are running over 46A, it will issue a hard reset to that cube first time, 2nd time if its still over 46A ... it will clock down that die to 200mhz to alleviate load on the DCDC.

Reason is, I ran into a weird behaviour w/ one of my cubes this weekend, noticed one of the DCDC's had dropped and the other DCDC for a die was taking FULL LOAD for that single die! It was pumping out 50A(horribly so I must say, it was in throttle mode) ... the affected die was at like 40% HW error rate because half of the poor die was effectively not working cuz not enough power to feed it.

This is a dangerous situation for the DCDC's .. so I coded up the above protection =)
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God damn, these things are literally RANDOM AS HELL! LOL!


Yeah...it is better off I don't know what the hell is going on with my 2 Titans.....it would probably scare the hell out of me...I find if you don't make direct eye contact in any manner they won't spook...but mine take an hour just to get all the cubes and dies back on any reset in power or reset in firmware...this of course is not counting the times they try to obtain the 'sweet release of oblivion' and try to brick themselves for no discernible reason that I can tell (reboot and play an hour to get all back up and going again) I swear it is like an ASIC version of a Hamster wheel......(then again look at how they were built ..the Titans and Neptunes....a frigging 8th grade raspberry pi science fair project...with the original 3 month warranty ...I should pray to the ASIC gods each night...they still run in some manner...it will be 1 year since they shipped (orig one and used one both Nov units...the orig unit I got on Nov 6th 2014..months late with sh*tty firmware for 2 months at the start....its a frigging 'miner' miracle..the lcd lights still work Smiley

But no really ..how/why/what/how long/when etc these Titans do what they do is a mystery and guite frankly scare the piss out of me ..again refrain from direct eye contact in my basement when doing laundry.....or god forbid 'touching them' in a reboot (shudder .the horror...the panic...the fear) I exaggerator (er not really) Sad

Tarkins Titans are upset because he removed any chance of personal contact by institutionalizing them, ie putting them in a data center ... they're mad
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November 03, 2015, 07:37:36 PM
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whats up whit the boards can yuo add more cunbes to neptune? or saturn?


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November 03, 2015, 11:47:22 PM
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Looks like JP6 & 13 could be used with some software hacking and hardware mods.
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source: http://www.robot-italy.com/en/uextx5-uext-port-splitter-and-extender-with-5-uext-connectors-wired-in-parallel.html

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It sure would be great if Glen could do something like this with the firmware...but if it was that easy ..I'd imagine someone would have done such by now....

I already have 6 to a controller....I'd do this ..just to set the other controller aside as a spare (now that in 3 days my Titan(s) will be past the 1yr warranty) 8 on one would be cool!

Not saying they will 'turn on me' (yeah right ..quicker then a zombie pet on the 'walking dead' imho)

But would sure be pretty slick if it was do'able (and as long as I'm wishing ...someone found they 'accidentally' archived all the knc forums with the tech info lost...
have looked at the 'wayback machine' site..only goes a couple levels like to board titles then zip empty...sigh)

edit: saw previous posts my 'daydream' was for 'this to also work with Titans just to be clear. (Hey btc is all unicorns/rainbows and fairy dust...so wtf...my daydream may be possible) Smiley


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I love the extender idea, and then save the other controller as a spare would be awesome!!! Maybe some longer ribbon cables too so we can place the controller somewhere safe Smiley

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I love the extender idea, and then save the other controller as a spare would be awesome!!! Maybe some longer ribbon cables too so we can place the controller somewhere safe Smiley

Well I doubt this is do-able or we would have had some electronics guys in this thread ...telling us how it can't be done ...the fact no one has said anything lets me know I've let my lack of electronics knowledge slip out ...like a fart in church...and they are too kind to point out how clueless we are on such a project (hope I'm wrong)


well in 1 year it will be for my orig titan....(2 dead dies set to OFF no RMA allowed etc etc) in like 1 hr and 45 min ..no more KNC warranty....that would be so sad they have done SO much to us (hey its true...it was in screwing us and not providing help/tech support etc in any real form imho the last 11 months..but still .it takes effort to be that 'indifferent' to their customers imho...they had to really work at being such pricks imho......

I still 'pray' to the ASIC gods that a volcano erupts under their cheap thermal generated electricity area/farm where their data halls are located and again Its STILL better odds then me 'scoring' with Natalie Portman ..the actress....as an example..(sigh)

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Little teaser for yall .... =)


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Little teaser for yall .... =)



so the mas dcdc temp is for them ALL right (damn I have one that runs good for the last year but runs hot..I've seen it at 102c and when all else is at 85 or so it is still at 91c)

don't suppose we could break this down into 4 to 6 cubes in some manner?

I did try messing with it ..nothing took so I left it at full out full bore speed and -03666 or whatever setting and viola it goes like hell (full don't touch me mode)

again been that way 1 year (knc titans always the surpise just waiting to melt something) and gave up trying to tweak it this summer when i was freaked out about it but still runs fine (go figure)


anyway i assume it is for all settings and it may stay that way so how high is the dcdc setting for such temp wise you can set this field at?

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so the mas dcdc temp is for them ALL right (damn I have one that runs good for the last year but runs hot..I've seen it at 102c and when all else is at 85 or so it is still at 91c)

don't suppose we could break this down into 4 to 6 cubes in some manner?

I did try messing with it ..nothing took so I left it at full out full bore speed and -03666 or whatever setting and viola it goes like hell (full don't touch me mode)

again been that way 1 year (knc titans always the surpise just waiting to melt something) and gave up trying to tweak it this summer when i was freaked out about it but still runs fine (go figure)


anyway i assume it is for all settings and it may stay that way so how high is the dcdc setting for such temp wise you can set this field at?

Yes when u turn on DCDC temp monitoring, the max applies to all DCDC's, if any DCDC's go over that ... it will throttle down the clock speed till the temp is under the threshold. Likewise when temps lower again by 10% less than the threshold, the clocks will be raised on dies which were previously throttled.
85C is the safe max - for longest DCDC life.

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so the mas dcdc temp is for them ALL right (damn I have one that runs good for the last year but runs hot..I've seen it at 102c and when all else is at 85 or so it is still at 91c)

don't suppose we could break this down into 4 to 6 cubes in some manner?

I did try messing with it ..nothing took so I left it at full out full bore speed and -03666 or whatever setting and viola it goes like hell (full don't touch me mode)

again been that way 1 year (knc titans always the surpise just waiting to melt something) and gave up trying to tweak it this summer when i was freaked out about it but still runs fine (go figure)


anyway i assume it is for all settings and it may stay that way so how high is the dcdc setting for such temp wise you can set this field at?

Yes when u turn on DCDC temp monitoring, the max applies to all DCDC's, if any DCDC's go over that ... it will throttle down the clock speed till the temp is under the threshold. Likewise when temps lower again by 10% less than the threshold, the clocks will be raised on dies which were previously throttled.
85C is the safe max - for longest DCDC life.

well i'm stuck ..the die in question runs full out at 325 and -0.366 or or not at all...been waiting for it blow up for more then 1 year..would be nice (hint?) if you could have this set per cube say?...but I understand....it will EVENTUALLY blow up I guess..but I've come to the conclusion the rest of the miner will likely go first (its knc they are evil this particular die likes this devil heat i guess ) go figure Huh

on the other hand your auto tune for elec eff i can run that and always set the above odd ball die back to its max setting (of course i ever mess with it again it will probably blow up but still) I guess that could help my elec eff anyway....

my miners always 'skirting the edge of danger' so to speak .....sheesh Smiley

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so the mas dcdc temp is for them ALL right (damn I have one that runs good for the last year but runs hot..I've seen it at 102c and when all else is at 85 or so it is still at 91c)

don't suppose we could break this down into 4 to 6 cubes in some manner?

I did try messing with it ..nothing took so I left it at full out full bore speed and -03666 or whatever setting and viola it goes like hell (full don't touch me mode)

again been that way 1 year (knc titans always the surpise just waiting to melt something) and gave up trying to tweak it this summer when i was freaked out about it but still runs fine (go figure)


anyway i assume it is for all settings and it may stay that way so how high is the dcdc setting for such temp wise you can set this field at?

Yes when u turn on DCDC temp monitoring, the max applies to all DCDC's, if any DCDC's go over that ... it will throttle down the clock speed till the temp is under the threshold. Likewise when temps lower again by 10% less than the threshold, the clocks will be raised on dies which were previously throttled.
85C is the safe max - for longest DCDC life.

well i'm stuck ..the die in question runs full out at 325 and -0.366 or or not at all...been waiting for it blow up for more then 1 year..would be nice (hint?) if you could have this set per cube say?...but I understand....it will EVENTUALLY blow up I guess..but I've come to the conclusion the rest of the miner will likely go first (its knc they are evil this particular die likes this devil heat i guess ) go figure Huh

on the other hand your auto tune for elec eff i can run that and always set the above odd ball die back to its max setting (of course i ever mess with it again it will probably blow up but still) I guess that could help my elec eff anyway....

my miners always 'skirting the edge of danger' so to speak .....sheesh Smiley

As per autotune(energy saver), if the die is unstable at any voltage lower than -.0366 then autotune will simply revert its voltage and reapply then stop further tuning of that die. It will go onto tune the rest of ur dies.

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November 08, 2015, 10:53:53 AM
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Little teaser for yall .... =)

Fantastic piece of software, kudos!

This has been asked before iirc, but: wouldn't you want to work on the Neptunes?

Edit: and on the Bitmain stuff while you're at it Wink
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