The Avenger
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December 28, 2013, 08:51:07 PM Last edit: December 28, 2013, 09:07:47 PM by The Avenger |
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no one understand why pay 13k and now is 10k
kidding with our money
Because -- boxes delivered later are worth less because they will mine less coin. The selling price is wet by KNC as to be representative of what they will accomplish. They are not doing a normal markup/margin. As I pointed out, there are only two batches. First batch priced at 10k (existing customers only). And then the second batch priced at 13k to be delivered 30 days later (which has now mysteriously dropped to 10k). They are in fact charging 3k extra (to those who bought in early December) for something to be delivered 30 days later. Actually the first batch which cost 10k and 13k are the same batch 1 units. KNC just gave their customers a break on the price. Batch 2 is what is currently being sold to everyone for 10k. So if you weren't already a KNC customer when the batch 1's came out and you paid 13k well that's too bad for you! But not to worry you'll have your Neptune a lot sooner than I will have my Batch 2 rig, so what's big deal? Oh yeah, it is two batches and 3 batches within those two. My mistake. KNC go back and rewrite their newsletters so often, it's hard to keep up So their "Second Batch" is their third batch, which is all very clear. I know a lot of people bought with the mindset they could get a refund any time they want, because knc promised that. But knc are such despicable liars, they retrospectively removed this "promise" from their newsletters after customers bought. I just find it amazing how much lies and greed and contempt for customers knc show and people are still willing to give them their money. It's never going to end well. I know when I bought, the only people offering advice in this thread were shills, giving biased bs, pretending they were unbiased. I guess I'm just sick of that and offer the other side, even though I get so much abuse from the shills for doing it. Also, I'll feel no guilt at all about laughing when the knobtuners are getting first degree burns in Q2/Q3/Q4. Lot's of "I told you so's" on the horizon It's a real simple wallet test for me. Would I go to the bathroom and leave my wallet at the table if knc were there? Nope. On an ongoing basis, they prove how rotten they are. I would not trust them with another dollar, on the basis of my dealings with them in the past and the way they operate. Don't believe me, you are welcome to believe whatever you want regarding knc. But things are not always as they seem
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helmax
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December 28, 2013, 08:59:26 PM |
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hashfast have cheap price more Ghash have psu have coolwater good case
iam litle sad with knc
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dhenson
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December 28, 2013, 09:01:51 PM |
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hashfast have cheap price more Ghash have psu have coolwater good case
iam litle sad with knc
If you think that in any way Hashfast is a better deal, then you really need to check your facts again.
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helmax
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December 28, 2013, 09:08:55 PM |
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i dont think nothing only see others company wht is problem ? like see competition
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December 28, 2013, 09:13:06 PM |
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December 28, 2013, 09:13:27 PM |
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hashfast have cheap price more Ghash have psu have coolwater good case
iam litle sad with knc
There are likely many pragmatists here not unwilling to buy GH products but of course having pre-paid for KnC miners and getting a good GH/s/$, or $/GH/s if you prefer, when KnC products are available, the choice of putting down dollars now for batch 3 GigaHash miners that won't be available for 1/4th of a year isn't very enticing.
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December 28, 2013, 09:24:26 PM |
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i dont think nothing only see others company wht is problem ? like see competition
The problem is its almost 100% fact that they committed fraud just like BFL did. With promising expensive miners for quick delivery. Instead of offer the miners at a price that would suit their ship date. They are already two months late which is drastic in bitcoin mining. With the difficulty claiming almost 700% in the last three months. Everyone of their batch one customers has lost a lot of coins. While I wouldn't be surprised if even there second batch customers due to ship last mont can never make a profit now. You're either a HF shill or you need to follow the boards a lot more closely.
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DPoS
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December 28, 2013, 09:51:17 PM |
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many of HF customers state that they were told clearly that they would get the same amount of BTC back if not delivered by dec 31st.. that and the MPP plan is what allowed those customers to be very smug last summer.
America and China companies lie a lot. One of the main reasons I went with KNC is they lie much less.
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smoothrunnings
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December 28, 2013, 10:17:37 PM |
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hashfast have cheap price more Ghash have psu have coolwater good case
iam litle sad with knc
I see that HashFast uses 28nm chips, the Neptune uses 20nm chips. So even though the HF is cheaper in the short term down the road you will have spent more on electricity with the HF. And have you ever built a true water cooling PC before? I have, water cooling comes a price too as fans and pumps use energy.
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helmax
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December 28, 2013, 10:23:10 PM |
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why you talk netptune if not exist
the comparison is with jupiter
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smoothrunnings
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December 28, 2013, 10:24:26 PM |
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no one understand why pay 13k and now is 10k
kidding with our money
Because -- boxes delivered later are worth less because they will mine less coin. The selling price is wet by KNC as to be representative of what they will accomplish. They are not doing a normal markup/margin. As I pointed out, there are only two batches. First batch priced at 10k (existing customers only). And then the second batch priced at 13k to be delivered 30 days later (which has now mysteriously dropped to 10k). They are in fact charging 3k extra (to those who bought in early December) for something to be delivered 30 days later. Actually the first batch which cost 10k and 13k are the same batch 1 units. KNC just gave their customers a break on the price. Batch 2 is what is currently being sold to everyone for 10k. So if you weren't already a KNC customer when the batch 1's came out and you paid 13k well that's too bad for you! But not to worry you'll have your Neptune a lot sooner than I will have my Batch 2 rig, so what's big deal? Oh yeah, it is two batches and 3 batches within those two. My mistake. KNC go back and rewrite their newsletters so often, it's hard to keep up So their "Second Batch" is their third batch, which is all very clear. I know a lot of people bought with the mindset they could get a refund any time they want, because knc promised that. But knc are such despicable liars, they retrospectively removed this "promise" from their newsletters after customers bought. I just find it amazing how much lies and greed and contempt for customers knc show and people are still willing to give them their money. It's never going to end well. I know when I bought, the only people offering advice in this thread were shills, giving biased bs, pretending they were unbiased. I guess I'm just sick of that and offer the other side, even though I get so much abuse from the shills for doing it. Also, I'll feel no guilt at all about laughing when the knobtuners are getting first degree burns in Q2/Q3/Q4. Lot's of "I told you so's" on the horizon It's a real simple wallet test for me. Would I go to the bathroom and leave my wallet at the table if knc were there? Nope. On an ongoing basis, they prove how rotten they are. I would not trust them with another dollar, on the basis of my dealings with them in the past and the way they operate. Don't believe me, you are welcome to believe whatever you want regarding knc. But things are not always as they seem If you hate Knc so much why do you continue to buy product from them? Compared to BFI, Avalon-ASIC, and HF they seem to be doing a much better job. Sure there going to be people to have their problems or disagreements but that's how life is in general. I think if you really dislike them than I would recommend when you get your Neptune from them that your turn around and sell it or auction it, then go with BFI or HF so that you're a happy camper! (smirk)
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smoothrunnings
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December 28, 2013, 10:31:13 PM |
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why you talk netptune if not exist
the comparison is with jupiter
Or why talk at all if you can't speak proper English? Well for starters the Jupiter doesn't do 1.2TH/s and it's not for sale anymore, so why compare the Jupiter if it no longer exists? Where as the Neptune is their current mining rig that is for sale and in development/manufacture. Why compare something from the past when you should be comparing things to the present?
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smoothrunnings
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December 28, 2013, 11:01:06 PM |
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Question about the "common information" page when you log onto Kncminer.com and click "my account" it asks you for your wallet id, mining pool, and your user and worker ID, what exactly is this for?
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December 28, 2013, 11:05:43 PM |
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in case you decide to use their hosting facility your gear needs to know where to send your btc and which mining pool you prefer.
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December 28, 2013, 11:08:26 PM Last edit: December 28, 2013, 11:22:42 PM by xstr8guy |
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Whynot just buy coins instead of doing a bank wire? A lot easier.
It's not that easy to deposit money in an exchange to buy bitcoin. A wire us much less difficult. I personally just buy mining gear with the coins I earn. If I don't have enough coin, then I don't buy. I log in to coinbase, input how much I want to buy and press a button. Within 2-3 days (quicker depending on verification level) it's in my wallet. What's easier is buying from the BTC I have, and using the Coinbase amount to resupply. Baddabing, you're done. Instant transfer, just the way BTC was meant. So yeah, it really is that easy. I suppose if you use other exchange methods perhaps it's more difficult. Hmm, maybe I need to try Coinbase! I've only ever used BTC-e and MtGox.
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davebodger
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December 28, 2013, 11:09:27 PM |
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Question about the "common information" page when you log onto Kncminer.com and click "my account" it asks you for your wallet id, mining pool, and your user and worker ID, what exactly is this for?
Thanks
If you fill in this info they will setup your miner so it can mine as soon as you turn it on, using the info you provided. It worked for me when I got my November jupiter.
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RenHoek
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December 28, 2013, 11:12:57 PM |
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Question about the "common information" page when you log onto Kncminer.com and click "my account" it asks you for your wallet id, mining pool, and your user and worker ID, what exactly is this for?
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If you fill in this info they will setup your miner so it can mine as soon as you turn it on, using the info you provided. It worked for me when I got my November jupiter. yes, for me to. my miner was completly preconfigured!
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December 28, 2013, 11:18:11 PM |
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Avenger... A+ on the artwork... even I can appreciate that... lol
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The Avenger
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December 28, 2013, 11:18:33 PM |
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If you hate Knc so much why do you continue to buy product from them? Compared to BFI, Avalon-ASIC, and HF they seem to be doing a much better job. Sure there going to be people to have their problems or disagreements but that's how life is in general.
I think if you really dislike them than I would recommend when you get your Neptune from them that your turn around and sell it or auction it, then go with BFI or HF so that you're a happy camper! (smirk)
I don't think you've read anything I've written if you think I've bought a neptune. If I do buy any more mining equipment, it certainly won't be from the Swedish bitcoin mafia. It's a shame there isn't a german manufacturer of bitcoin hardware. They have a favourable attitude to bitcoin and always high quality engineering.
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smoothrunnings
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December 28, 2013, 11:22:44 PM |
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If you hate Knc so much why do you continue to buy product from them? Compared to BFI, Avalon-ASIC, and HF they seem to be doing a much better job. Sure there going to be people to have their problems or disagreements but that's how life is in general.
I think if you really dislike them than I would recommend when you get your Neptune from them that your turn around and sell it or auction it, then go with BFI or HF so that you're a happy camper! (smirk)
I don't think you've read anything I've written if you think I've bought a neptune. If I do buy any more mining equipment, it certainly won't be from the Swedish bitcoin mafia. It's a shame there isn't a german manufacturer of bitcoin hardware. They have a favourable attitude to bitcoin and always high quality engineering. I can only imagine if there was a German manufacture of bitcoin hardware, it would take like a year to produce anything as they believe in quality over quantity.
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