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January 15, 2014, 02:18:32 AM
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I never keep the web stats page up at all. I barely ever use it and when I did finally use it just to checking something noticed how slow things were going.


Is there any documentation for using the "tune" firmware? Before you start to blow up your rig? How many volts? Frequency, anything like that? Did KNC release anything on that or just threw it at us and said good luck?



Advanced tuning is only usable if your miner is not healthy (dead dies, disabled cores etc.), or you overclocking your machine. I am running 630 GH/s right now with my Oct Jupiter.

630 with 4 modules?


I overclocked my 8 VRM Oct Jupiter which is stable at 680Gh/s (4 modules) which is exactly what my November Jupiters are doing.
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January 15, 2014, 03:06:13 AM
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What do you think the safest die voltage level is while keeping the SPI voltage on automatic? I have an October 4VRM rig with 4 modules. I know my way around a linux system and can program pretty easily but when it comes to electrical stuff I'm kind of in left field. I just don't want to blow up my Dad's rig.

http://www.photopiks.com/lowvoltage.jpg

50A = Very Safe
57A - Safe

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You mean keep increasing the volts on the DIE until and I'll see the AMPS increase?


Yes, increase the volts and hit "Apply changes".  The cores may be completely disabled by CGMiner so you may need to restart CGMiner after you raise the volts some.
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January 15, 2014, 03:07:16 AM
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What do you think the safest die voltage level is while keeping the SPI voltage on automatic? I have an October 4VRM rig with 4 modules. I know my way around a linux system and can program pretty easily but when it comes to electrical stuff I'm kind of in left field. I just don't want to blow up my Dad's rig.

http://www.photopiks.com/lowvoltage.jpg


Best settings so far for my oct jupiter (4 VRM):
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Advanced tuning:
* SPI volt: default (1.95)
* SPI freq: default (201442)
...

After OC (231) / FW 0.99.2:
Avg.HR: 660 Gh/s, poolside: 650 Gh/s
WU: 9246
HW err%: 2,6%
Watts: +- 700 W (via advanced-page in 0.99.2)
ASIC1: 56.0 ℃ , avg 55 Amps
ASIC2: 43.0 ℃ , avg 54 Amps
ASIC3: 62.5 ℃ , avg 56 Amps (highest die: 62 Amps)
ASIC4: 52.5 ℃ , avg 55 Amps

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January 15, 2014, 03:47:44 AM
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Mr. Itod, rumor goes you helped Satoshi himself with beta testing. Is there some truth to it?

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January 15, 2014, 04:13:19 AM
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I live smack-dab @ 19.5 deg if you know what that means... (The Magnetic vortex) right near Kileua Crater
I should have known this would eventually happen. I got comfy here over the past few years thinking it was nonsense.
I wish there was something like solar that would capture electromagnetic/ionic energy and I could
Run some Neptunes with it... lol.
But Aussie Pete & I have a plan for the future using KNC Miners with an Industrial size E-cat (1MW) if we can get that far.
Minimum 1.5 mil we will need for that adventure. No electric bill running miners would be pure profit at some point...  any generation.
I know it sounds like a pipe dream, and maybe it is....  but after doing so well out the gate with KNC we figure if those scenarios were even close to duplicated over the next few months, it could become a possibility.


Soy....  everything was backed up several times... no worries there.. but thanks.
It's a high-end system I custom built... it will be MB(No Post)on MSI-GD658d, GPU(No power)Raedon7970 ... dunno if the cpu is still good or not (core17)  The TX750 that ran it is junk..  rattles like glass inside.  Dunno if the 2166 ocz ram is good or not, or the ssd... gotta test it.
I think I'm gonna trash the whole she-bang, and cut my losses... stick with laptops & external 3.0 drives.

Energy catalyzers are pure hokum.
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January 15, 2014, 06:54:24 AM
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Looks like today Cointerra finally put together a working machine.  It would be nice if KNC actually posted a status report on the Neptune boxes.
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January 15, 2014, 07:22:05 AM
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Looks like today Cointerra finally put together a working machine.  It would be nice if KNC actually posted a status report on the Neptune boxes.

Neptunes might sell out now that people see they will be over twice as fast as terraminers

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January 15, 2014, 02:21:05 PM
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Are the neptune 10k customer only batch and the 13k batch shipping at the same time and current batch ships out a month after those first lots have shipped. Is that right?
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January 15, 2014, 02:32:46 PM
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Are the neptune 10k customer only batch and the 13k batch shipping at the same time and current batch ships out a month after those first lots have shipped. Is that right?

I see Neps at 10k (9,999)  when I log in. Maybe prev customers get that price...or they cut it since I last looked? If they cut it to 5k I'd buy one..doubt they'll break even otherwise like most of the last rigs won't in BTC, and without that huge price rise that helped Oct/Nov buys ..not likely to break even in dollars either.

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January 15, 2014, 02:32:59 PM
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Are the neptune 10k customer only batch and the 13k batch shipping at the same time and current batch ships out a month after those first lots have shipped. Is that right?

Makes more sense than the 13k batch shipping with the current batch as that would trigger refund requests probably.
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January 15, 2014, 02:40:57 PM
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Are the neptune 10k customer only batch and the 13k batch shipping at the same time and current batch ships out a month after those first lots have shipped. Is that right?

IIRC the original $10K customers are receiving theirs first and the $13K customers Neptunes shipping second a couple of weeks later.

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January 15, 2014, 02:42:18 PM
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Are the neptune 10k customer only batch and the 13k batch shipping at the same time and current batch ships out a month after those first lots have shipped. Is that right?

Makes more sense than the 13k batch shipping with the current batch as that would trigger refund requests probably.

Yep certainly wouldn't be a good idea or I thought maybe the customer only batch ships a month ahead of 13k batch so 3 batches in 3 months? But they most probably ship at the same time. So the 10k customer only batch and 13k are one batch and existing customers just got rewarded with a cheap price and first dibs?

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IIRC the original $10K customers are receiving theirs first and the $13K customers Neptunes shipping second a couple of weeks later.

Ok Thanks
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January 15, 2014, 02:43:16 PM
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Are the neptune 10k customer only batch and the 13k batch shipping at the same time and current batch ships out a month after those first lots have shipped. Is that right?

What matthewh3 said is what KNC relayed to us. 1,200 units (10K) customer appreciation batch shipping first, then within 2-3 weeks later, the remaining 2,400 units will begin shipping.

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January 15, 2014, 02:46:04 PM
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Cool .Thanks for the clarification guys
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January 15, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
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Looks like Cointerra isn't far from shipping the world's next "most powerful BTC miner".

Lots of folks in this thread said they'd never even have a chip in January.

Wink KNC will ship new Jupiters soon I'm sure Wink

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I wonder if they intend to keep rolling out neptune batches for sale month after month like cointerra have done or another network protection statement until other companies reach 3-4TH machines or 20nm machines?

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January 15, 2014, 03:13:05 PM
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Looks like Cointerra isn't far from shipping the world's next "most powerful BTC miner".

Lots of folks in this thread said they'd never even have a chip in January.

Wink KNC will ship new Jupiters soon I'm sure Wink

At what price? $2995 or $3495 I'm guessing one of those. Surely less than $4K

I came so close to ordering from cointerra it's a bit of a regret
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January 15, 2014, 03:24:48 PM
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You can still order a cointerra for $6k, indicates a delivery in May which could be before the Neptunes are delivered. A whole $4,000 less may be the way to go. Or, better yet...order 2 of them for the same price a lot of people ordered the $13k Neptune for. And they come with power supplies.

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January 15, 2014, 03:35:46 PM
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You can still order a cointerra for $6k, indicates a delivery in May which could be before the Neptunes are delivered. A whole $4,000 less may be the way to go. Or, better yet...order 2 of them for the same price a lot of people ordered the $13k Neptune for. And they come with power supplies.

Cointerra has done a fine job at pricing, and if their production/shipment line goes full swing, I believe KNC will see quite a bruteforce level of competition. Lots of ifs there, but still. KNC is a quality product and they've done extremely well overall, but they may just be facing an uphill battle this year, especially since they haven't even taped out yet.

In-hand and time-to-delivery are, afterall, cornerstone aspects of this market.

It is nice that Cointerra is supplying PSU's, that's value added. Devil's Advocate: KNC allows you to choose what PSU is best for you, and if a PSU goes down, quicker/easier to replace.

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January 15, 2014, 03:55:42 PM
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Are the neptune 10k customer only batch and the 13k batch shipping at the same time and current batch ships out a month after those first lots have shipped. Is that right?

Makes more sense than the 13k batch shipping with the current batch as that would trigger refund requests probably.

Yep certainly wouldn't be a good idea or I thought maybe the customer only batch ships a month ahead of 13k batch so 3 batches in 3 months? But they most probably ship at the same time. So the 10k customer only batch and 13k are one batch and existing customers just got rewarded with a cheap price and first dibs?

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IIRC the original $10K customers are receiving theirs first and the $13K customers Neptunes shipping second a couple of weeks later.

Ok Thanks

As a previous customer who delayed my Neptune purchase and saw the price rise to $13k, I not only get the price increase penalty but will be penalized with a delay as well?  Hell, batch one $10k Neptunes will reach non-previous customer ebay buyers before this Oct. Merc buyer!?  That sucks bevis.
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