Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[ImI]

is it still possible to get a refund for those neptunes?

Yes, they allow refunds on all batches up until the point they are in production.

ok, cause i got my invoice today and wasnt sure what that means for refunds

[merv77]

is it still possible to get a refund for those neptunes?

Yes, they allow refunds on all batches up until the point they are in production.

ok, cause i got my invoice today and wasnt sure what that means for refunds

got mine today also.

[jelin1984]

Why all of you ask for refund?

[RoadStress]

lies and wank

Go fuck yourself criminal. Do not reply to any of my posts unless it's send the 40BTC bounty you promised to the people who got your stolen coins back.

How did that end up? The scammers refunded the money and that's it? And Phoenix didn't paid the bounty.

He said that the scammers "willingly refunded" so no reward was needed to be paid.  He was in bed with the scammers who "willingly refunded". He paid out some small hush money and that was the end of that.

Thank you. Well that doesn't seem right at all IF the scammers refunded the money after they were discovered by Avanger and Augusto Croppo.

[sbfree]

lies and wank

Go fuck yourself criminal. Do not reply to any of my posts unless it's send the 40BTC bounty you promised to the people who got your stolen coins back.

How did that end up? The scammers refunded the money and that's it? And Phoenix didn't paid the bounty.

He said that the scammers "willingly refunded" so no reward was needed to be paid.  He was in bed with the scammers who "willingly refunded". He paid out some small hush money and that was the end of that.

Thank you. Well that doesn't seem right at all IF the scammers refunded the money after they were discovered by Avanger and Augusto Croppo.

phoenix/avenger

can we end the dispute??

Augusto got over it...so shouldn't we all, and chalk it up to a lesson learned by all parties??

phoenix, scammed or scammer....you did put out a reward, which I personally (just my worthless opinion) thought was that it was stupid to have put such a high reward, something like 3/4 of what you say was scammed....
1. he did it out of desperation
   Which I think is what happened, and Augusto I think accepts that
   Avenger, well, his name says it all??
                      or
2. he never thought he would recover his btc and threw out that crazy reward amount

Now, I grew up in the hood, and I deal with hood types all the time.....and no way is anyone ever going to return something unless they truly believe that they have been caught or will be caught because they didn't cover their tracks well enough......which to me tells me these perp/perps. were either outed by augusto/avenger or these perps somehow turned NICE and returned the scammed btc....

others claim phoenix was in on it.........

well the moral once and forever is trust no one, even when they have been trusted before....

Avenger, can you let it go for the sake of the thread.....and I say you should at least take what phoenix offered for the benefit of the charity, since you did say it would go to charity....whatever phoenix feels is merited is better than zero for that charity

and like that maybe we won't hear of this again......?

ps. TO KEEP THIS WITHIN TOPIC

KNC, BITCOINORAMA, where are you? we aren't mad, just want to chat.....

[kendog77]

Bitmain just lowered the price of Ants to 1.18 BTC for 190GH, which means you can now get 2.5TH of mining power that will be delivered within 2-3 days for $10,000.

Knc, where is the Neptune? I'd say everyone except for the very first batch of Neptune buyers is now officially screwed unless they refund, and time is running out for the first batch of buyers.

[bkminer]

I was just thinking of that new Swedish tax on Bitocin as "artwork" would be taxed.  So does that mean since the DC is in Sweden do people receiving Bitcoin from it have to pay the Swedish tax???

I would think so.

[Paladin69]

I was just thinking of that new Swedish tax on Bitocin as "artwork" would be taxed.  So does that mean since the DC is in Sweden do people receiving Bitcoin from it have to pay the Swedish tax???

I would think so.

Yeah that would suck if they have to shave off your earnings before it comes to you.  No Government should have any legal authority to touch btc until it converts to the central bank debt-slave money of your choice.

[dimaze]

The in-stock Neptunes went from 760ish to 89x. Refunds are probably being stocked here.

[xstr8guy]

Why are people so delusional?  We will never hold a Neptune in our own hands.  A cloudhashing option will be our only choice other than a refund.

And I highly doubt that KNC ever planned to develop a 20nm ASIC.  They are building and stocking their datacenter with the old 28nm tech.   So why would they ever build 20nm miners when their datacenter is filled with 28nm miners that will do the job just fine... and without the many millions of development cost.

No Neptunes ever.  Mark my words.

[Biodom]

Why are people so delusional?  We will never hold a Neptune in our own hands.  A cloudhashing option will be our only choice other than a refund.

And I highly doubt that KNC ever planned to develop a 20nm ASIC.  

If they never planned 20nm, then it is all a ruse and false advertising. You cannot get away with this...EVER, therefore, I doubt that it was the intention.
I think foundries are late with 20nm, that's all. However, we will NOT have a Neptune-I agree on this. That said, KnC modus operandi is dodgy.

[Searing]

is it still possible to get a refund for those neptunes?

well i have one from a week ago on the 2nd batch ..that says in processing

am considering getting rid of my 1st batch customer order (last one left) the 10.2k usd version
but am holding on for a bit in case KNC does something like double the hash or some other silliness (forlorn hope)

be my luck dump it and they say you can get your virtual 4th to hash by april 1st and your physical one in may
or something like that (my luck ya know)

but it is likely i will dump the 1st one too as things are going (probably should already have done so as btc seems
to be climbing)

anyway as long as i can refund ...i can gripe...but being a bfl refugee from last april (still no product damn monarhs)

at least i can grumble abouut KNC like i grumble about any vendor that does not deliver in time..ie get my refund

an't much but only thing they have going for them lately

Searing

[Searing]

lies and wank

Go fuck yourself criminal. Do not reply to any of my posts unless it's send the 40BTC bounty you promised to the people who got your stolen coins back.

How did that end up? The scammers refunded the money and that's it? And Phoenix didn't paid the bounty.

He said that the scammers "willingly refunded" so no reward was needed to be paid.  He was in bed with the scammers who "willingly refunded". He paid out some small hush money and that was the end of that.

Thank you. Well that doesn't seem right at all IF the scammers refunded the money after they were discovered by Avanger and Augusto Croppo.

so says avanger and/or augusto....there were others involved...and they got 6btc each i think....i was not just those two
i mean a guy loses 60btc and you want 40btc because the scammers got scared and gave btc back..yeah right .rip the poor guy off aagin........it was NOT
just them who falicitated this....(hey i could also have made a claim but why rip off the guy twice who got burnt..not to mention the other two folks who got refunds as well that i know of besides phoenix)

anyway that is why /ignore is so handy to have on here

Searing

[ImI]

is it still possible to get a refund for those neptunes?

well i have one from a week ago on the 2nd batch ..that says in processing

am considering getting rid of my 1st batch customer order (last one left) the 10.2k usd version
but am holding on for a bit in case KNC does something like double the hash or some other silliness (forlorn hope)

be my luck dump it and they say you can get your virtual 4th to hash by april 1st and your physical one in may
or something like that (my luck ya know)

but it is likely i will dump the 1st one too as things are going (probably should already have done so as btc seems
to be climbing)

anyway as long as i can refund ...i can gripe...but being a bfl refugee from last april (still no product damn monarhs)

at least i can grumble abouut KNC like i grumble about any vendor that does not deliver in time..ie get my refund

an't much but only thing they have going for them lately

Searing

yeah, same here.

considering their crazy cloudhashing-plans and other dark horses entering the market i think there isnt much to gain with those units.

so i requested refund today for 2 customer batch neptunes.

[Searing]

is it still possible to get a refund for those neptunes?

well i have one from a week ago on the 2nd batch ..that says in processing

am considering getting rid of my 1st batch customer order (last one left) the 10.2k usd version
but am holding on for a bit in case KNC does something like double the hash or some other silliness (forlorn hope)

be my luck dump it and they say you can get your virtual 4th to hash by april 1st and your physical one in may
or something like that (my luck ya know)

but it is likely i will dump the 1st one too as things are going (probably should already have done so as btc seems
to be climbing)

anyway as long as i can refund ...i can gripe...but being a bfl refugee from last april (still no product damn monarhs)

at least i can grumble abouut KNC like i grumble about any vendor that does not deliver in time..ie get my refund

an't much but only thing they have going for them lately

Searing

yeah, same here.

considering their crazy cloudhashing-plans and other dark horses entering the market i think there isnt much to gain with those units.

so i requested refund today for 2 customer batch neptunes.

well i can 'stall' a bit longer waiting for my 2nd batch neptune refund to clear....probably another 10 days (total of 20 is what i'm guessing i'm sure they are swamped)...if that goes thru ok with the bank info i gave them and NO hic ups ...i can then use the same bank info and reel the other unit back (i so wanted a physical miner....alas) anyway can make lottery like hopes until...the 2nd one clears at least...no use having 2 tied up in processing in case my bank messes up like it did the last time when i ordered (took a month ..my banks fault not knc)..so again can stall here for probably another 7-10 days if refund goes thru as promised..then i'll have to suck it up and punt my last unit (sigh).....probably will just sit on my coins for now...not mine btc....i mean antminer.....from what i can tell on their forums about 1 in 5 just plain is broke and don't work ...probably just suck it up by btc and sit on my hands or get some "puny" units to dork with....(feel like an air force pilot forced to play with ultra lights now)

as for other KNC antics

still think this is why we have not heard from bitcoinorama....he either quit and signed a NDA can't talk.....working some other area of knc ie pulled from this forum again NDA can't talk...or has been fired for yelling this is unfair and still can't talk due to NDA...only thing i'm sure of they no longer will let him say anything on  here or anyone else (i see no one taking his place managing this forum)...so that bodes ill.

Searing

[kendog77]

There are rumors that the next gen asicminer product will be available in April and use .5w/gh. I'm also very impressed by what bitmain was able to do with their antminers and hope they come out with a more power efficient version soon. The 1TH dragon units also look very interesting.

Stop pre-ordering, people! There is no need to take additional risk with pre-orders when competent companies are producing mining hardware at a fair price that ships immediately.

Knc could be dominating the in stock bitcoin mining hardware market by shipping jupiters as fast as they can make them, but they chose to misuse Neptune preorder money to build their own private mining farm.

[DPoS]

There are rumors that the next gen asicminer product will be available in April and use .5w/gh. I'm also very impressed by what bitmain was able to do with their antminers and hope they come out with a more power efficient version soon. The 1TH dragon units also look very interesting.

I should check out their thread.. but did you set up any antminers yet?? what are you using to run them?  and I've been keeping an eye on friedcat too if he can deliver those specs but I doubt he will sell for cheap going by his past sales.... but maybe the climate has changed

[Phoenix1969]

Ya know what?   I don't need this shit. Here goes nothin'   I and my bro got ripped so you idiots can all FUCK OFF. And NO I never said I would hand out rewards for CTS refunds. I said I'd give up to 80% of RECOVERED btc if your info led to the RECOVERY of the btc... not REFUNDED by CTS because Jay got scared...yeah.. Jay Watson; Avenger's info on Jay was spot-on, but since Jay never saw it until after he REFUNDED WILLINGLY, it couldn't possibly have been a factor... but I was nice and gave rewards anyways, and not small ones. So go to your fucking dictionaries and look up the difference between Refund, and Recover. I chose that word for a reason. Then Avenger and Edgar have the gaul to try and make me look like the scammer when he himself had already pm'd me tons of proof to the contrary, and fucking NASA checked and verified it. They were live accounts. You saw them, so don't act like a sissy bitch liar now acting like you are almighty God himself and you deemed me Evil or something... To this I say.... GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU FUCKING LYING, BACKSTABBING, ASSHOLE IDIOT. I've done nothing wrong. Fuck off  Stupid idiots actually think we created this CTS crap so we could rip and refund ourselves? I've never heard a more stupid statement. Even after seeing live European local accounts linked to it. Duh. You guys have ate too many paint chips as children.
I offered you a tidy reward SEVERAL TIMES, and you refused it. It's all in the thread for all to see, along with other crazy totally insane shit.
And if anyone doubts me....Read the fucking blockchain transactions, and follow the money. Retards.
I'll never do anything for this forum again. It's simply over-run by asshole idiots.
bon-voyage

[ImI]

Knc could be dominating the in stock bitcoin mining hardware market by shipping jupiters as fast as they can make them, but they chose to misuse Neptune preorder money to build their own private mining farm.

yes, that was definitly a cooler

[Minor Miner]

Retards.
I'll never do anything for this forum again. It's simply over-run by asshole idiots.
bon-voyage

You will be back.  You are addicted to this place and cannot stay away.