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May 09, 2014, 04:23:40 AM
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Those caps look as if they didn't get much flux, and knocked-off fairly easy, and clean. Most of The caps in the pics look like they would solder right back on. Most of the components which came loose look re-usable even, although some look like garbage. The boards are pretty beefy, and the solder points are large. I bet a good portion of the PCB's could be fixed with minimal effort, while others are not.
Someone should head up a group buy effort, and hire a bulk repair shop to whip them out. once they see how simple the repairs actually are, it may be worth the effort... just sayin'.
some place like this....      http://sybesmas.com/site/   could make easy work of a stack of those boards

the only way it would make sense is to set up a mineral oil vat so you can you ditch the cost of heatsink/fans and dealing with heat and then make octofrankenjupiter where you have 48 boards in a vat and stash it in an old barn next to a powertower that you tap into for free

and of course set up a hotspot wireless zone there too



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May 09, 2014, 04:53:09 AM
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Those caps look as if they didn't get much flux, and knocked-off fairly easy, and clean. Most of The caps in the pics look like they would solder right back on. Most of the components which came loose look re-usable even, although some look like garbage. The boards are pretty beefy, and the solder points are large. I bet a good portion of the PCB's could be fixed with minimal effort, while others are not.
Someone should head up a group buy effort, and hire a bulk repair shop to whip them out. once they see how simple the repairs actually are, it may be worth the effort... just sayin'.
some place like this....      http://sybesmas.com/site/   could make easy work of a stack of those boards


I have a local guy who did just that for me. He works out of his house but dude is totally awesome and fixed 5 boards for me (re soldered the knocked off pieces) all in an hours time. 4 out of the 5 cards worked and hashed just fine, Don't know what happened to the last one. Just never powered up. I can see if I can work out a deal with him if anyone wants to have their boards fixed. Price seemed fair @ $40.00 per board...


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May 09, 2014, 05:15:41 AM
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Those caps look as if they didn't get much flux, and knocked-off fairly easy, and clean. Most of The caps in the pics look like they would solder right back on. Most of the components which came loose look re-usable even, although some look like garbage. The boards are pretty beefy, and the solder points are large. I bet a good portion of the PCB's could be fixed with minimal effort, while others are not.
Someone should head up a group buy effort, and hire a bulk repair shop to whip them out. once they see how simple the repairs actually are, it may be worth the effort... just sayin'.
some place like this....      http://sybesmas.com/site/   could make easy work of a stack of those boards


I have a local guy who did just that for me. He works out of his house but dude is totally awesome and fixed 5 boards for me (re soldered the knocked off pieces) all in an hours time. 4 out of the 5 cards worked and hashed just fine, Don't know what happened to the last one. Just never powered up. I can see if I can work out a deal with him if anyone wants to have their boards fixed. Price seemed fair @ $40.00 per board...




The 'fixing the boards' might be the easy part.

I claim to posess the skills to repair them also.
There are people who like to solder everywhere.

The issue is trust, hand carry local and trust is high.
Ship them anywhere and shit could get out of hand easily.

I'd want a working board for my efforts, but I know what the potential is, where a local lab rat may not.

Even though I'd love to even get a few hours hands on on a Nov board I recommend a local 'while you wait' repair if possible.
I suggest avoiding dudes making claims on threads!
(yes that includes me)

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May 09, 2014, 06:16:25 AM
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Those caps look as if they didn't get much flux, and knocked-off fairly easy, and clean. Most of The caps in the pics look like they would solder right back on. Most of the components which came loose look re-usable even, although some look like garbage. The boards are pretty beefy, and the solder points are large. I bet a good portion of the PCB's could be fixed with minimal effort, while others are not.
Someone should head up a group buy effort, and hire a bulk repair shop to whip them out. once they see how simple the repairs actually are, it may be worth the effort... just sayin'.
some place like this....      http://sybesmas.com/site/   could make easy work of a stack of those boards

I live about 40 miles away from this place. Never seen the place, but I'm pretty sure they're using a lot of temp agency for rework jobs. In this area, some businesses would spend 10 cents to save a nickel. I did some solder work recently near here. I'm not saying that you don't have a good idea, I just wouldn't send it to SW Michigan.
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Those caps look as if they didn't get much flux, and knocked-off fairly easy, and clean. Most of The caps in the pics look like they would solder right back on. Most of the components which came loose look re-usable even, although some look like garbage. The boards are pretty beefy, and the solder points are large. I bet a good portion of the PCB's could be fixed with minimal effort, while others are not.
Someone should head up a group buy effort, and hire a bulk repair shop to whip them out. once they see how simple the repairs actually are, it may be worth the effort... just sayin'.
some place like this....      http://sybesmas.com/site/   could make easy work of a stack of those boards

I live about 40 miles away from this place. Never seen the place, but I'm pretty sure they're using a lot of temp agency for rework jobs. In this area, some businesses would spend 10 cents to save a nickel. I did some solder work recently near here. I'm not saying that you don't have a good idea, I just wouldn't send it to SW Michigan.
Yeah, was just an example... If it were me, I'd have been to Radio shack getting supplies to try the moment I found out they didn't want them back for RMA...   I actually have a "magic" cold heat pen that would be perfect for this job like this...
I highly recommend it for beginners.   http://science.howstuffworks.com/cold-heat.htm
Hell, I bet I could just lay one of those caps back in its place, wet with flux and use a crude butane iron to touch that solder with and be done.
But the cold heat pen is really quick and easy, clean, and way safer.
Hope I inspired someone is all...    Tongue

its also easy to test a capacitor or resistor for viability.    http://www.ehow.com/how_7800310_check-defective-resistor-capacitor.html
you can get equivalent parts cheap right at radio shack for the bad ones.

Vrms....  good luck. I'd trash those pcb's probably, but you may find a source and the skill... that's where I'd "draw the line" personally


*On a different note tho...   the way those came loose so easily, even wrapped tightly in bubble-wrap leads me to logically deduct two distinct Possible causes...
1. The soldering points were not done properly... like a shortage of flux or not enough heat.
   ---OR ---
2. The component connections became brittle after being used at high temperature for an extended period of time.

But... then we have the hostname reports saturn-NNN  posted in the forum, which pretty much puts it into possibility fact 2, with the added possibility of #1 still.
Which could only mean one thing in my mind...  they pulled all that equipment off the shelf at Boden to make SuperJupiters. The facts just say so.


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May 09, 2014, 09:07:44 AM
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Is anyone still holding CA Batch Neptune? If so, why?

Haven't been here for awhile and seems like KNC has gone to shit
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May 09, 2014, 09:52:31 AM
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Is anyone still holding CA Batch Neptune? If so, why?

Haven't been here for awhile and seems like KNC has gone to shit

Think i was one of the first CA orders (#115XX) and one of the last that requested a refund. It hurts my tiny miner heart a little bit but it was to much mess here and no possibility to ROI the amount of refunded BTC with my electricity price. Sad
We'll see us again in the next winter - when KnC is still here (i hope so) and learned from the mistakes.
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May 09, 2014, 11:17:17 AM
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Order 111xx requested a refund, bank details RE-submitted and accepted on the 23rd April...


BTC offered & not accepted, waiting for CASH


Although i'm now considering BTC just to get it over & done with

Personally, I would just take the BTC and be done with it. There is always the risk (although very small) that this could get "goxed"

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May 09, 2014, 11:26:46 AM
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Order 111xx requested a refund, bank details RE-submitted and accepted on the 23rd April...


BTC offered & not accepted, waiting for CASH


Although i'm now considering BTC just to get it over & done with

Personally, I would just take the BTC and be done with it. There is always the risk (although very small) that this could get "goxed"

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I don't believe they get goxed or insolvent or anything like that. Just think they'll need some longer for the Neptunes or they don't bring many more then 3TH.
Why not accepting a BTC refund and sell it then for your CASH?
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May 09, 2014, 11:29:21 AM
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Order 111xx requested a refund, bank details RE-submitted and accepted on the 23rd April...


BTC offered & not accepted, waiting for CASH


Although i'm now considering BTC just to get it over & done with

Asked for BTC refund on 28 April for a very early CA batch order. Emailed them every 2 days. This Monday they said, we will process your refund early week. Yesterday i wrote them, only answer. Sry you get your coins in afew days <----i mean WTF??

Wrote back that i cant take this serious, thats no answer! Respond was, sry cant tell you more, ask the manager but he will tell you the same.

I wrote now sam directly, i dont hope anything Wink Still no refund or answer incoming!
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May 09, 2014, 01:17:18 PM
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Is anyone still holding CA Batch Neptune? If so, why?

Haven't been here for awhile and seems like KNC has gone to shit

Neptune B1 and B2 units are supposed to be shipping June and will be 6TH/s. Since the markets are starting to show signs that 2008 is fast and approaching I would rather have my miner in hand before the markets take a major dump than to be the one waiting for anything to be shipped because you'll be waiting until the sheep come home before your miner ships! Smiley

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May 09, 2014, 01:23:54 PM
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Is anyone still holding CA Batch Neptune? If so, why?

Haven't been here for awhile and seems like KNC has gone to shit

Neptune B1 and B2 units are supposed to be shipping June and will be 6TH/s. Since the markets are starting to show signs that 2008 is fast and approaching I would rather have my miner in hand before the markets take a major dump than to be the one waiting for anything to be shipped because you'll be waiting until the sheep come home before your miner ships! Smiley
Wrong. It will be 3TH in June and 3TH in August!
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May 09, 2014, 02:16:38 PM
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If you are waiting for a refund please add your details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=601855
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May 09, 2014, 02:33:08 PM
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Got refund today(sorry guys, who still did not get it yet).
Talked to Liam (thanks, Liam!)
Requested refund on April 8, changed to BTC on April 29, got it on May 9.
If you call, be polite, ask nicely even if you were waiting for a while.
Tip: do not talk to Nicollete, she is very very stressed (I think that she is on the other site-Boden??-quality of phone connection to her was very poor).
Good luck!
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May 09, 2014, 02:45:11 PM
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Just spoke to Liam too - as expected no useful information as to why there is such a huge delay, but I asked him when was the last USD refund processed and he said last week.
He also said that there were no USD refunds processed this week, which is worrying Sad
Again no information of why the financial department is busy and what exactly they are busy with.
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May 09, 2014, 03:09:34 PM
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If you are waiting for a refund please add your details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=601855

did you want people who've already received their refund or only people which are still waiting to post?
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May 09, 2014, 03:18:07 PM
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If you are waiting for a refund please add your details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=601855

did you want people who've already received their refund or only people which are still waiting to post?

Both. It will be good to see when the last refunds were processed.
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May 09, 2014, 03:19:16 PM
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Is anyone still holding CA Batch Neptune? If so, why?

Haven't been here for awhile and seems like KNC has gone to shit

Neptune B1 and B2 units are supposed to be shipping June and will be 6TH/s. Since the markets are starting to show signs that 2008 is fast and approaching I would rather have my miner in hand before the markets take a major dump than to be the one waiting for anything to be shipped because you'll be waiting until the sheep come home before your miner ships! Smiley
Wrong. It will be 3TH in June and 3TH in August!

"each customer who ordered a first or second batch Neptune, will get a minimum 6TH for each order, with their original 3TH product shipped in June and the free “third batch” machine delivered in August."

So I am not wrong, I am still getting 6TH/s. I will be just getting a "free" third batch machine in August. Smiley Either way I still win. I don't have to worry about the markets collapsing and being out $$$.
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May 09, 2014, 03:31:08 PM
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Is anyone still holding CA Batch Neptune? If so, why?

Haven't been here for awhile and seems like KNC has gone to shit

Neptune B1 and B2 units are supposed to be shipping June and will be 6TH/s. Since the markets are starting to show signs that 2008 is fast and approaching I would rather have my miner in hand before the markets take a major dump than to be the one waiting for anything to be shipped because you'll be waiting until the sheep come home before your miner ships! Smiley
Wrong. It will be 3TH in June and 3TH in August!

"each customer who ordered a first or second batch Neptune, will get a minimum 6TH for each order, with their original 3TH product shipped in June and the free “third batch” machine delivered in August."

So I am not wrong, I am still getting 6TH/s. I will be just getting a "free" third batch machine in August. Smiley Either way I still win. I don't have to worry about the markets collapsing and being out $$$.

You may get 6 TH/s and probably some loose parts. However, until you receive your first 3 TH/s, I'll happily hash away with my 4.2 which I got for the same price I would have gotten my first 3 TH/s. And once you got your additional 3 TH/s, I'll being spoondolied with additional 5.4 TH/s. And will have spent less than for the Neptocratics. Well, if they refund. But if they file for bankruptcy first (no US$ refunds last week...), you'll lose your money, I'll lose my money, but I'll be hashing :-p
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May 09, 2014, 03:31:56 PM
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My guess is that they already have the Neptunes and are upgradung their datahall first. Once they're done with that they'll ship out the rejects from the data hall to their serfs in late summer or fall. I don't think you'll see you Titaanics until Feb of next year. They'll be running them in their data hall first. Yeah, that's how they do ya and you know you like it.
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