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May 16, 2014, 01:16:24 AM
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did the lucky recipients of their own money back receive any email or correspondence wrt their refund or did it just arrive silently?




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May 16, 2014, 01:27:31 AM
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did the lucky recipients of their own money back receive any email or correspondence wrt their refund or did it just arrive silently?


Still waitin here, requested USD around the 14th April but only swapped to BTC last weekend...


Though Natalie did say it would take a few days from Monday/Tuesday - i kinda expected it to be today


I did receive an e-mail but the next day Smiley

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May 16, 2014, 01:43:31 AM
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Finally I got my refund in btc
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May 16, 2014, 02:00:31 AM
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Saturday 17 May 2014, Amsterdam Bitcoin Conference:

Panel: " State of the Bitcoin Mining ‘Arms Race’ "

with: Josh (BFL), Sam(KnC), .....

http://bitcoin2014.com/

ScamBand is getting back together!


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May 16, 2014, 02:08:29 AM
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Saturday 17 May 2014, Amsterdam Bitcoin Conference:

Panel: " State of the Bitcoin Mining ‘Arms Race’ "

with: Josh (BFL), Sam(KnC), .....

http://bitcoin2014.com/

ScamBand is getting back together!

https://i.imgur.com/bW1Flmg.jpg

is sam wearing a seatbelt?
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May 16, 2014, 02:11:58 AM
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Saturday 17 May 2014, Amsterdam Bitcoin Conference:

Panel: " State of the Bitcoin Mining ‘Arms Race’ "

with: Josh (BFL), Sam(KnC), .....

http://bitcoin2014.com/

ScamBand is getting back together!



is sam wearing a seatbelt?

I think it's referred to as a murse (man purse)
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May 16, 2014, 02:33:44 AM
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did the lucky recipients of their own money back receive any email or correspondence wrt their refund or did it just arrive silently?

I never got any confirmation before or after from KNC, the refund just appeared in my wallet
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May 16, 2014, 03:05:50 AM
Last edit: May 16, 2014, 03:20:27 AM by Biodom
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did the lucky recipients of their own money back receive any email or correspondence wrt their refund or did it just arrive silently?

I never got any confirmation before or after from KNC, the refund just appeared in my wallet

I got an email just as blockchain showed the transaction...and now I even got a small piece of IKEA furniture from our local hub as a token of appreciation for my zero % five mo loan to KnC... Grin (just kidding)

Edit: On a more serious note, I think that the idea for Neptune design (being Jupiter-like if they will try to maintain it) was blown away by dense chip arrays from Spondoolies and Bitmain.

Neptune hash/$$ is just not appealing anymore when we've got $1/GH in S1 (despite it being a power hog), ~$1.6 in S2 and ~$2.1 in Sp-10 while the expected value for Neptune remained at $4.4/GH. Besides, these two competitors are shipping NOW from stock.

I conclude that preorders had become a losing game for now (for miners)


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May 16, 2014, 03:12:55 AM
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did the lucky recipients of their own money back receive any email or correspondence wrt their refund or did it just arrive silently?

I never got any confirmation before or after from KNC, the refund just appeared in my wallet

I got an email just as blockchain showed the transaction...and now I even got a small piece of IKEA furniture from our local hub as a token of appreciation for my % five mo loan to KnC...


JUST kidding! Grin

If they sent you any  IKEA furniture it would be missing half the screws and come with a spool of wire to assemble it with.
The box would be closed with rivets.
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May 16, 2014, 05:11:08 AM
Last edit: May 16, 2014, 06:31:11 AM by underneath_the_water_line
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To those of you who have received BTC-refund from KNC

I and also the community (I hope...) would like to track how much BTC KNC have and how much they are mining.

To do this it would be great if you could submit the address from which you received your refund.


Link to address submission
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/15ocLT4yelsQ3TQ59R2x4-TsKXULdAfPB1V6zXrJX-s0/viewform

The only required question is what the address is, takes 5 seconds to fill out and I really do believe that this information is necessary for the community.

Thank you!


Edit: If you would like to share addresses but only to me (and not the world) please submit them here (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1esjQN8vZwhI1kNtU_qxzQ0xCvhG23sGZryMUAzPMAoo/viewform?usp=send_form)

The address will not be shared further only the information found from it. Ie how much many generated coins, first transaction date. Amount incoming and outgoing. It will be deidentified with rounded numbers and no day specific time.
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May 16, 2014, 10:04:34 AM
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May 16 11:49

Hi,

Unfortunately we can not give you a specific date of when your refund will be processed.
The refunds are being processed as quickly as possible and we hope to have them all processed shortly.
Apologies for the inconvenience caused.

Best regards
Med vänlig hälsning

Natalie Forslund

the amount of time it took her to write that email is longer than the amount of time it would have taken to process your refund.
then again, they probably have a copy/paste template.

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May 16, 2014, 10:18:08 AM
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What is the reason actually for not refunding?

They don't have the funds? 

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May 16, 2014, 01:00:22 PM
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What is the reason actually for not refunding?

They don't have the funds? 

They probably dont care, I probably wouldnt bother much either if i was getting +3mil SEK each day from btc mining, that was built up using customer preorder money.
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May 16, 2014, 01:12:25 PM
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What is the reason actually for not refunding?

They don't have the funds? 

knc are greedy bastards
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May 16, 2014, 01:12:58 PM
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Hi guys, today I wrote KnC
I also want to refund, on all orders. And Titan too.
I swear never to main. Only make and sell miners - is the best in the history of business.

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May 16, 2014, 01:22:37 PM
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Hi guys, today I wrote KnC
I also want to refund, on all orders. And Titan too.
I swear never to main. Only make and sell miners - is the best in the history of business.

Isn't Titan non-refundable?
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May 16, 2014, 01:24:55 PM
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Hi guys, today I wrote KnC
I also want to refund, on all orders. And Titan too.
I swear never to main. Only make and sell miners - is the best in the history of business.

Isn't Titan non-refundable?

per their ToS Titanics are non-refundable. You go down with the ship on those.
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May 16, 2014, 01:27:27 PM
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Hi guys, today I wrote KnC
I also want to refund, on all orders. And Titan too.
I swear never to main. Only make and sell miners - is the best in the history of business.

Isn't Titan non-refundable?

per their ToS Titanics are non-refundable. You go down with the ship on those.

Their TOS is not legal nor enforceable in the U.S.

After 30 days without delivery you can request a refund and they should provide one.

And despite what the morons at BFL say, "All Sales final" does not apply until a transaction has occurred (i.e. you paid and they shipped) before that happens you can ask for your money back.
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May 16, 2014, 01:48:46 PM
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Hi guys, today I wrote KnC
I also want to refund, on all orders. And Titan too.
I swear never to main. Only make and sell miners - is the best in the history of business.

Isn't Titan non-refundable?

per their ToS Titanics are non-refundable. You go down with the ship on those.

Their TOS is not legal nor enforceable in the U.S.

After 30 days without delivery you can request a refund and they should provide one.

And despite what the morons at BFL say, "All Sales final" does not apply until a transaction has occurred (i.e. you paid and they shipped) before that happens you can ask for your money back.

Good luck with that I tried all the above with BFL this last fall...FTC just refused at that time to have anything to do with me...refereed me to the county
attorney where I got a form letter saying that they were reviewing the situation and on follow ups got the same email...phone call same...was being ignored
the county attorney at that time was not big on going after the largest employer in their county imho.  Got a hold of FTC this is 4 months after I was supposed
to get my miner..they said to call them 9 months from the date I called them (effectively 14 months) ....if I did not get it for more then 1 year they would act
promptly...got a hold of paypal executive committee..some had sucess with that...but so many people complained that paypal stopped giving refunds for BFL
breaking TOS and went back to tough it was more then 45 days....paypal rep did also hint when I mentioned the FTC saying more then 1 year I could contact
them again..perhaps I'd have better luck with an FTC investigation

so essentially the last straw was when I found out people DID win in small claims court and they could not collect (the guys in the class action suit) I basically
gave up

hell maybe they were correct ..it has been more then 1 year and stuff moved...but I'd bet you would get no more traction with KNC then I did BFL last year...
the bureaucrats don't seem to even pay any note till it is more then 9 months ...and imho paypal was making lots and lots if BFL spring/summer collected
25 million in pre-orders ..nice paypal fees...

the law is one thing if not enough regulators to enforce before a year goes by it is kinda moot

again hope I'm incorrect...

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May 16, 2014, 02:09:48 PM
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so essentially the last straw was when I found out people DID win in small claims court and they could not collect (the guys in the class action suit) I basically gave up



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