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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 9 (6.3%)
H2 2019 - 15 (10.5%)
H1 2020 - 27 (18.9%)
H2 2020 - 26 (18.2%)
H1 2021 - 11 (7.7%)
H2 2021 - 28 (19.6%)
H1 2022 - 6 (4.2%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.8%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 2 (1.4%)
2024 or Later - 15 (10.5%)
Total Voters: 143

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The last thing you want your smartphone doing is sending your text messages, contacts, and location history to a server in China. But according to mobile security firm Kryptowire, a particularly nasty brand of Android software did just that, transmitting text, data, call, location, and app data to a Chinese server every 72 hours.

Researchers began to raise red flags last fall, when it was discovered the the data mining tool in question — called Adups — had been living inside hundreds of millions of devices produced by more than 40 manufacturers

There are other viruses pre-installed in some android phones besides the one in that story.

So what?

Give me an example where that is relevant to cryptocurrencies.
An actual example where something happened to that persons cryptos because of those viruses, not any made
up theorthical "this or that might happen if the moon is partially clouded while you accidentally walk backwards while seeing a stray cat hunting,"

You, sir, deserve what is coming to you.  Please stop making light of security, there are noobs that read this thread, you could do real harm to others, not just yourself.
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January 24, 2018, 04:32:36 PM

Ugh for a while there, we almost made it to 12k
back to sub 11k again  Cry
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The last thing you want your smartphone doing is sending your text messages, contacts, and location history to a server in China. But according to mobile security firm Kryptowire, a particularly nasty brand of Android software did just that, transmitting text, data, call, location, and app data to a Chinese server every 72 hours.

Researchers began to raise red flags last fall, when it was discovered the the data mining tool in question — called Adups — had been living inside hundreds of millions of devices produced by more than 40 manufacturers

There are other viruses pre-installed in some android phones besides the one in that story.

So what?

Give me an example where that is relevant to cryptocurrencies.
An actual example where something happened to that persons cryptos because of those viruses, not any made
up theorthical "this or that might happen if the moon is partially clouded while you accidentally walk backwards while seeing a stray cat hunting,"

You, sir, deserve what is coming to you.  Please stop making light of security, there are noobs that read this thread, you could do real harm to others, not just yourself.

i used to mine feathercoin on my iphone app back in 2013 haha :\ ~hella secure crypto lol
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January 24, 2018, 04:39:51 PM

I was hoping not to have to install special instrumentation like wireshark.

Well, wireshark is about as universal a network analysis tool as exists.

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BTW, 8333 is for bitcoind. LN uses a different port (can't recall right now).

Exactly. Filter out all 8333 and what are you left with? Traffic not to/from your validating client - which I believe was what you were looking for in your query.
I'd be left with the rest of the traffic - which isn't LN alone. I'd better filter to select LN traffic only. But that's a minor detail.

True, true. But your question was how to avoid cluttering the LN packets with bitcoind packets. Filtering port 8333 would do that. I assume that other background processing would be negligible. Unless you're seeding torrent at the same time or somesuch. And admittedly, I don't know the default LN port(s) either.
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January 24, 2018, 04:58:50 PM

So in other news, it appears that the moneybadger coalition successfully defended the 9-4RP2 keepstar from the goonswarm/imperium last night in the largest online battle that has yet occurred.  I have not seen a summary of the killboard, but over $1M (real money) worth of virtual equipment was at play in this engagement.
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January 24, 2018, 05:01:25 PM

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-23/first-cryptocurrency-freight-deal-takes-russian-wheat-to-turkey

Bullish news?
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January 24, 2018, 05:02:32 PM

Why not just get a Trezor for about twice the cost?

Can you download Coinomi, Bither and Bitpie and then claim your forks on a Trezor?

SatoshiLabs has to first add Trezor support for the new forked coins, as they have with past forks such as BCash and BitcoinGold. But once they have done that, you should be able to claim and send your forked coins anywhere you wish.

They have rules around what Bitcoin forks they will support though:

https://trezor.io/troubleshooter/#103

Thanks, but I have kind of an issue with companies telling me what forks I can and can not have.
With a phone I choose what to claim and not.
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January 24, 2018, 05:04:58 PM

I never understood the need for a HW wallet anyway. Is it that hard to write down your private keys? Or memorize your 12/24 word seed?
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The last thing you want your smartphone doing is sending your text messages, contacts, and location history to a server in China. But according to mobile security firm Kryptowire, a particularly nasty brand of Android software did just that, transmitting text, data, call, location, and app data to a Chinese server every 72 hours.

Researchers began to raise red flags last fall, when it was discovered the the data mining tool in question — called Adups — had been living inside hundreds of millions of devices produced by more than 40 manufacturers

There are other viruses pre-installed in some android phones besides the one in that story.

So what?

Give me an example where that is relevant to cryptocurrencies.
An actual example where something happened to that persons cryptos because of those viruses, not any made
up theorthical "this or that might happen if the moon is partially clouded while you accidentally walk backwards while seeing a stray cat hunting,"

You, sir, deserve what is coming to you.  Please stop making light of security, there are noobs that read this thread, you could do real harm to others, not just yourself.

A n00b buying a phone, not installing anything but the apps necessary to claim the forks (after of course first moving his bitcoins to a new wallet), using only free wifi to do so, and then immediately moving his coins to a new wallet or an exchange will be perfectly fine.
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I never understood the need for a HW wallet anyway. Is it that hard to write down your private keys? Or memorize your 12/24 word seed?


it is a convenient offline signer, nothing more, you can achieve the same thing with a dedicated offline PC.
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January 24, 2018, 05:09:32 PM

Thanks, but I have kind of an issue with companies telling me what forks I can and can not have.
With a phone I choose what to claim and not.

You go with that lack of replay protection, booooyyyiii !!
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Thanks, but I have kind of an issue with companies telling me what forks I can and can not have.
With a phone I choose what to claim and not.

You go with that lack of replay protection, booooyyyiii !!

As far as I know, all the forks have replay protection. I would never touch a fork without replay protection.
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Thanks, but I have kind of an issue with companies telling me what forks I can and can not have.
With a phone I choose what to claim and not.

You go with that lack of replay protection, booooyyyiii !!

As far as I know, all the forks have replay protection. I would never touch a fork without replay protection.

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January 24, 2018, 05:24:34 PM

So this range-bound wash trading is very interesting. It seems that for whatever reason, the futures market is intent on controlling the price within a narrow bound.

Good thing, or bad?
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January 24, 2018, 05:27:00 PM

Short Term Trend
Target:~8.5k


Even the upcoming short squeeze can stay within this trend.~15k
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Thanks, but I have kind of an issue with companies telling me what forks I can and can not have.
With a phone I choose what to claim and not.

You go with that lack of replay protection, booooyyyiii !!

As far as I know, all the forks have replay protection. I would never touch a fork without replay protection.



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January 24, 2018, 05:34:29 PM

So this range-bound wash trading is very interesting. It seems that for whatever reason, the futures market is intent on controlling the price within a narrow bound.

Good thing, or bad?

In my mind..whales are still accumulating...so its good imho. I dont know if I would go so far as to say we are coiling again...but there seems to be some compression in the ask walls. I am calling for a nice little spike within 36 hours.
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January 24, 2018, 05:37:16 PM

I never understood the need for a HW wallet anyway. Is it that hard to write down your private keys? Or memorize your 12/24 word seed?

If you just want to hodl for years a paper wallet is OK.

But if you want to move your Bitcoins sometimes this is a real pain in the a**

HW also prevent against trojans where your address generator (from seed) creates an public address and the trojan changes that. The public address shown on your HW will never be false.
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January 24, 2018, 05:37:32 PM

Take with a grain of salt.

I'm sure as an investment their rating system will give Bitcoin a C- or D, everything else will get an F.

And the market analysts will say, "See? Told ya so." and pat themselves on the back.

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@emmalore/bitcoin-weiss-ratings-raport

I think I called it. They gave it a C+.  Tongue  Roll Eyes

Yeah slightly better than Dogecoin at C... these people really know their job Tongue
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January 24, 2018, 05:45:22 PM

So this range-bound wash trading is very interesting. It seems that for whatever reason, the futures market is intent on controlling the price within a narrow bound.

Good thing, or bad?

In my mind..whales are still accumulating...so its good imho. I dont know if I would go so far as to say we are coiling again...but there seems to be some compression in the ask walls. I am calling for a nice little spike within 36 hours.

My call: I don't think the price will move significantly until after close of business Friday. And then it'll bounce around on the weekend, only to come back to same price level on Monday.

Same as last weekend.
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