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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2034021 times)
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November 30, 2014, 03:04:23 AM
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When mining with P2Pool, I see the message below from cgminer 4.6.1 from Bitmain's firmware.  Does this mean that the stale shares are not thrown away?

[2014-11-30 02:45:57] Pool 2 stale share detected, submitting as user requested
No, bitmain decided to add extra block detection code themselves so they filter even more at the driver level.

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November 30, 2014, 03:04:59 AM
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When mining with P2Pool, I see the message below from cgminer 4.6.1 from Bitmain's firmware.  Does this mean that the stale shares are not thrown away?

[2014-11-30 02:45:57] Pool 2 stale share detected, submitting as user requested
No, bitmain decided to add extra block detection code themselves so they filter even more at the driver level.

Thanks for the info.
Exact code if you're interested:
https://github.com/bitmaintech/cgminer/blob/master/driver-bitmain.c#L1294

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November 30, 2014, 04:36:28 AM
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I think your formulas are a bit arbitrary. For instance, getwork latency is given way too much importance in the pool formula. And everything is linear.. and so on (latencies are mostly ok  within a range before the problems they cause skyrocket).

Thanks for the comments Naplam.  Based off of what you said I changed the criteria and reduced how much GWL matters to the p2pool score.  In regards to most of my equations being linear, do you have any suggestions on how to make the ranking more accurate?  Perhaps through tiering?

The latest criteria used can be found on the bottom of the p2pool node finder page, nodes.p2pool.co


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November 30, 2014, 12:17:33 PM
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I think your formulas are a bit arbitrary. For instance, getwork latency is given way too much importance in the pool formula. And everything is linear.. and so on (latencies are mostly ok  within a range before the problems they cause skyrocket).

Thanks for the comments Naplam.  Based off of what you said I changed the criteria and reduced how much GWL matters to the p2pool score.  In regards to most of my equations being linear, do you have any suggestions on how to make the ranking more accurate?  Perhaps through tiering?

The latest criteria used can be found on the bottom of the p2pool node finder page, nodes.p2pool.co

I agree about the getwork latency comment, that's weighted too high IMHO.  My node (http://96.44.166.190:9332) is ranked at 51% solely because of the getwork latency.  Everything else is stellar including 111% efficiency.  I played with the bitcoind settings quite a bit before I settled on what it's set to now.  I decided getting more transactions was worth a slightly higher getwork latency, and as shown, it didn't affect the efficiency rating at all.

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November 30, 2014, 04:43:29 PM
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does anyone have the latest guide for making own p2pool on linux ? tried some others dont seem quite to work
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November 30, 2014, 05:38:02 PM
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does anyone have the latest guide for making own p2pool on linux ? tried some others dont seem quite to work

Are you using the script or installing everything manually?

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November 30, 2014, 08:08:14 PM
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does anyone have the latest guide for making own p2pool on linux ? tried some others dont seem quite to work

Are you using the script or installing everything manually?

used the script provided here http://bitcoin.kyros.info/ but then i get stuck right at the end :
--2014-11-30 08:10:02--  (try: 3)  https://bitfetch.com/static/bootstrap.7z
Connecting to bitfetch.com (bitfetch.com)|176.9.50.103|:443...     
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November 30, 2014, 08:24:17 PM
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does anyone have the latest guide for making own p2pool on linux ? tried some others dont seem quite to work

Are you using the script or installing everything manually?

used the script provided here http://bitcoin.kyros.info/ but then i get stuck right at the end :
--2014-11-30 08:10:02--  (try: 3)  https://bitfetch.com/static/bootstrap.7z
Connecting to bitfetch.com (bitfetch.com)|176.9.50.103|:443...     

Yeah, I'm not sure if the links still work as it's no longer being updated or maintained. Suggest you do the set-up manually instead?

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November 30, 2014, 11:02:09 PM
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geez the share diff is down. pointing some miners back here for a bit. Smiley

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November 30, 2014, 11:24:18 PM
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does anyone have the latest guide for making own p2pool on linux ? tried some others dont seem quite to work

Are you using the script or installing everything manually?

used the script provided here http://bitcoin.kyros.info/ but then i get stuck right at the end :
--2014-11-30 08:10:02--  (try: 3)  https://bitfetch.com/static/bootstrap.7z
Connecting to bitfetch.com (bitfetch.com)|176.9.50.103|:443...     

Yeah, I'm not sure if the links still work as it's no longer being updated or maintained. Suggest you do the set-up manually instead?

yeps, learning still especially linux ... looking for a noob proof guide
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November 30, 2014, 11:40:18 PM
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Yeah, I'm not sure if the links still work as it's no longer being updated or maintained. Suggest you do the set-up manually instead?

yeps, learning still especially linux ... looking for a noob proof guide

Try this one:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=62842.0

geez the share diff is down. pointing some miners back here for a bit. Smiley

Yup, & 3 blocks today too - a good Sunday  Smiley

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November 30, 2014, 11:43:39 PM
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Was just about to suggest the guide PatMan did... It is a good one:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=62842.0

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December 01, 2014, 12:10:54 AM
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thx guys, managed to get to bitcoid & downloading blocks. will let it run n see how things progresses.
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December 01, 2014, 03:54:03 AM
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I think your formulas are a bit arbitrary. For instance, getwork latency is given way too much importance in the pool formula. And everything is linear.. and so on (latencies are mostly ok  within a range before the problems they cause skyrocket).

Thanks for the comments Naplam.  Based off of what you said I changed the criteria and reduced how much GWL matters to the p2pool score.  In regards to most of my equations being linear, do you have any suggestions on how to make the ranking more accurate?  Perhaps through tiering?

The latest criteria used can be found on the bottom of the p2pool node finder page, nodes.p2pool.co

I agree about the getwork latency comment, that's weighted too high IMHO.  My node (http://96.44.166.190:9332) is ranked at 51% solely because of the getwork latency.  Everything else is stellar including 111% efficiency.  I played with the bitcoind settings quite a bit before I settled on what it's set to now.  I decided getting more transactions was worth a slightly higher getwork latency, and as shown, it didn't affect the efficiency rating at all.

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OK, I removed GWL from the score and your node is doing much better now.  I agree it is efficiency and latency which matters and not internal measurements of the system.  I hope I have the proper balance between efficiency and latency.  I am looking to ensure the scoring system is the fairest out there and a true representation of the best node to connect to.

Thanks for the feedback.

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December 01, 2014, 07:01:56 AM
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> Error submitting primary block: (will retry)
2014-12-01 08:58:52.269638 > Traceback (most recent call last):
2014-12-01 08:58:52.269676 >   File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 490, in _startRunCallbacks
2014-12-01 08:58:52.269704 >     self._runCallbacks()
2014-12-01 08:58:52.269738 >   File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 577, in _runCallbacks
2014-12-01 08:58:52.269780 >     current.result = callback(current.result, *args, **kw)
2014-12-01 08:58:52.269832 >   File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 1155, in gotResult
2014-12-01 08:58:52.269856 >     _inlineCallbacks(r, g, deferred)
2014-12-01 08:58:52.269880 >   File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 1099, in _inlineCallbacks
2014-12-01 08:58:52.269913 >     result = g.send(result)
2014-12-01 08:58:52.269954 > --- <exception caught here> ---
2014-12-01 08:58:52.269987 >   File "/mnt/60gb/p2pool/p2pool/util/deferral.py", line 41, in f
2014-12-01 08:58:52.270028 >     result = yield func(*args, **kwargs)
2014-12-01 08:58:52.270059 >   File "/mnt/60gb/p2pool/p2pool/bitcoin/helper.py", line 67, in submit_block_p2p
2014-12-01 08:58:52.270112 >     factory.conn.value.send_block(block=block)
2014-12-01 08:58:52.270136 >   File "/mnt/60gb/p2pool/p2pool/util/p2protocol.py", line 102, in <lambda>
2014-12-01 08:58:52.270169 >     return lambda **payload2: self.sendPacket(command, payload2)
2014-12-01 08:58:52.270201 >   File "/mnt/60gb/p2pool/p2pool/util/p2protocol.py", line 93, in sendPacket
2014-12-01 08:58:52.270224 >     raise TooLong('payload too long')
2014-12-01 08:58:52.270247 > p2pool.util.p2protocol.TooLong: payload too long

Whatsup?


It became orphan because payload too long? Too many users on pool or too many transactions in a block or what?
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December 01, 2014, 07:30:13 AM
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I think your formulas are a bit arbitrary. For instance, getwork latency is given way too much importance in the pool formula. And everything is linear.. and so on (latencies are mostly ok  within a range before the problems they cause skyrocket).

Thanks for the comments Naplam.  Based off of what you said I changed the criteria and reduced how much GWL matters to the p2pool score.  In regards to most of my equations being linear, do you have any suggestions on how to make the ranking more accurate?  Perhaps through tiering?

The latest criteria used can be found on the bottom of the p2pool node finder page, nodes.p2pool.co

I agree about the getwork latency comment, that's weighted too high IMHO.  My node (http://96.44.166.190:9332) is ranked at 51% solely because of the getwork latency.  Everything else is stellar including 111% efficiency.  I played with the bitcoind settings quite a bit before I settled on what it's set to now.  I decided getting more transactions was worth a slightly higher getwork latency, and as shown, it didn't affect the efficiency rating at all.

M

OK, I removed GWL from the score and your node is doing much better now.  I agree it is efficiency and latency which matters and not internal measurements of the system.  I hope I have the proper balance between efficiency and latency.  I am looking to ensure the scoring system is the fairest out there and a true representation of the best node to connect to.

Thanks for the feedback.

The latest algorithm change definitely boosted my node's standing (currently 112% score in your list).

Could you change the listing from the IP  71.172.92.76 to the host name galactica.geekgalaxy.com?

Also, the algorithm FAQ at the bottom still lists GWL.

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December 01, 2014, 06:12:07 PM
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I was comparing your results with http://p2pools.org/btc & I noticed forre.st node had been down for over 50 days - has he completely abandoned his node now as well? Or has he just changed his domain?

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December 01, 2014, 07:14:48 PM
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I see a recent block for today but, no payout, p2pool has had a payout listed for me since before and after the block, is there something I need to bang on to make the payout happen?

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December 01, 2014, 07:16:30 PM
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I see a recent block for today but, no payout, p2pool has had a payout listed for me since before and after the block, is there something I need to bang on to make the payout happen?

Something happened to that block.  I don't think we all know what yet.

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December 01, 2014, 10:25:19 PM
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Anyone have a C1 pointing at p2pool?  Mine seems to behave like my S2 pre-fix ... abysmal.

I was expecting the C1 to act like a S3, but it doesn't, it acts like an S2.  Including the annoying "have to set queue to 0 every reboot" problem.

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I have C1's using P2Pool.  Mine are getting the full 1000GH/s, but they do require the same re-setting of queue after a reboot.  I also set the pseudo share difficulty.  It has been discussed that setting pseudo difficulty does not effect the overall performance, however setting pseudo difficulty will make cgminer and the UI show the expected hashrate.  I use +1028 (If you use +1024, Best Share is not displayed.  But with +1028, best Share works.  I have no idea why.)  Regarding setting the queue, S2/S4/C1 all have the same OS configuration.

I'm not sure if it also gets wiped after a reboot (I'll let you know the next time I have to reboot) but I found that the "save and apply" button on the miner configuration completely re-writes cgminer.conf on my C1s.  I've edited /www/pages/cgi-bin/set_miner_conf.cgi to add the options so that I can fiddle with my settings in the gui and still maintain the configs...

That's pretty annoying about the stale shares filtering, have they made any comment regarding that specifcally or are they just ignoring it?
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