[1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool

[jcumins]

When i first setup my node, the default address was receiving payouts when blocks were found, and now that has stopped.  No miners were ever using the default address at all.  What exactly would the node get payouts for if anything.  This is a 0 fee node and i never have changed that since i started it.

If some one knows or have seen this please charm in.

Thanks.

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[OgNasty]

When i first setup my node, the default address was receiving payouts when blocks were found, and now that has stopped.  No miners were ever using the default address at all.  What exactly would the node get payouts for if anything.  This is a 0 fee node and i never have changed that since i started it.

If some one knows or have seen this please charm in.

Thanks.

Maybe someone was mining with a username that wasn't a Bitcoin address which caused your node to receive the payouts?

[kano]

... it's called increased p2pool share difficulty and getting no share chain shares with small hash rates and variance ...

[jcumins]

Ok thanks, just to make sure this was normal...

[jonnybravo0311]

Hey windpath - appears you're missing stats from block 334431.  I don't have it on my node either, but I certainly received a block reward for it at 08:24EST today.

[windpath]

Hey windpath - appears you're missing stats from block 334431.  I don't have it on my node either, but I certainly received a block reward for it at 08:24EST today.

Thanks, got it added. Now to sort out why it was not picked up by the scanner

[kano]

Hey windpath - appears you're missing stats from block 334431.  I don't have it on my node either, but I certainly received a block reward for it at 08:24EST today.

Thanks, got it added. Now to sort out why it was not picked up by the scanner

At a guess, might the cause be that it was a stale p2pool share?
p2pool doesn't know about all the blocks that are found.
95% of stale share blocks are valid blockchain blocks, so a while back this was rectified by passing the blocks to bitcoind even if they were stale shares ... since throwing them away is a really bad idea when 95% of them are valid
Thus every so often a p2pool block is found with a stale share.

[mdude77]

Has anyone found out what this means?

Code:

2014-12-15 20:26:38.867000 > in download_shares:
2014-12-15 20:26:38.868000 > Traceback (most recent call last):
2014-12-15 20:26:38.869000 > Failure: p2pool.p2p.ShareReplyError: too long

I'm seeing it a lot.

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[windpath]

Hey windpath - appears you're missing stats from block 334431.  I don't have it on my node either, but I certainly received a block reward for it at 08:24EST today.

Thanks, got it added. Now to sort out why it was not picked up by the scanner

At a guess, might the cause be that it was a stale p2pool share?
p2pool doesn't know about all the blocks that are found.
95% of stale share blocks are valid blockchain blocks, so a while back this was rectified by passing the blocks to bitcoind even if they were stale shares ... since throwing them away is a really bad idea when 95% of them are valid
Thus every so often a p2pool block is found with a stale share.

Thanks, but that was not it, still not sure actually...

We have regularly tracked stale shares that ended up making blocks by monitoring for Forrest's special "OP_RETURN", just did not pick it up in this case (first time), still not sure what happened, will keep an eye out for the next one...

[PatMan]

Loving this ultra low diff atm......

[Soulfreezer]

How does new nodes get added to p2pool-nodes.info ?

[PatMan]

How does new nodes get added to p2pool-nodes.info ?

As long as your node is publicly accessible it will show. It can take a while to propagate though, sometimes a couple of days. Does it show on http://nodes.p2pool.co/ ?

[GingerAle]

I hope this isn't considered spamming, and if so, do what you must.

I came up a protocol that could be utilized alongside a cryptocurrency - the Decentralized Autonomous Financial Network (DAFNe) Protocol.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881888.0

While that thread approaches TL;DR status, suffice it to say that the first application of such a protocol is a lending network. The protocol essentially allows a virtual bitcoin transaction to be built in a separate blockchain, and when a condition is met, the virtual transaction is transferred as an actual transaction to the bitcoin network.

(I figured the decentralized mining people would appreciate this effort to completely decentralize lending).

In this way, one could get thousands of individuals to have stake in a loan, distributing risk, and increasing money velocity.

Of course, the fundamental problem of any of these decentralized networks requiring proof of work is reward for the work. I don't think the protocol should create a secondary asset (such as the mechanism behind Loancoin, because I think this just leads us down the same black hole that is our current financial system.. reserve notes), so as it stands, the DAFNe would skim some percentage from the interest rate to provide miner rewards, though I ran the numbers and these rewards are minimal at low levels of network activity (approach 0.01 BTC per block at something like 10k loans of 50 BTC with 5% interest).

Long story short, is there a way to implement the p2pool protocol into a network right off the bat? So that way, even if a node came in with 2X available network hashrate, things would still stay decentralized?

I probably don't fully understand the innerworkings behind p2pool..... but I wanted to communicate, because I believe in communication.

if you want to take up the reply in the other thread (to prevent a derail), that would make sense. Or if you want to flame me, I'm wearing the right shoes.

[PatMan]

Heads up for all you merge miners out there in p2pool land - Namecoin has been updated to v0.3.76:

http://namecoin.info/?p=download

Sorry if it's been mentioned before, but I just noticed it......

[idonothave]

I would like to ask here for experiences with SP20 Jackson. I consider to buy one and want to decide between S4 I already have and SP20 I do not have yet. Any opinion welcome.

[PatMan]

The SP20 from SP-Tech beats the the S4 hands down in all departments with p2pool. I am in the process of clearing out all of my Bitmain miners due to their lack of support generally as well as for p2pool, not to mention their constant stream of broken firmware releases. SP-Techs prices have also just been reduced - go for it.

Spondoolies are the new king 

[idonothave]

The SP20 from SP-Tech beats the the S4 hands down in all departments with p2pool. I am in the process of clearing out all of my Bitmain miners due to their lack of support generally as well as for p2pool, not to mention their constant stream of broken firmware releases. SP-Techs prices have also just been reduced - go for it.

Spondoolies are the new king 

I have learned with S4 so for me there is not problem, but yes, now the price of SP20 1GHs is below price of S4 1GHs, there is the reason I consider. I like PSU included in S4 this I see is SP20 disadvantage. What kind or type of PSU are You using with SP20? Is there same way to log into unit via ssh as with S4?

[idonothave]

The SP20 from SP-Tech beats the the S4 hands down in all departments with p2pool. I am in the process of clearing out all of my Bitmain miners due to their lack of support generally as well as for p2pool, not to mention their constant stream of broken firmware releases. SP-Techs prices have also just been reduced - go for it.

Spondoolies are the new king 

I have learned with S4 so for me there is not problem, but yes, now the price of SP20 1GHs is below price of S4 1GHs, there is the reason I consider. I like PSU included in S4 this I see is SP20 disadvantage. What kind or type of PSU are You using with SP20? Is there same way to log into unit via ssh as with S4?

As I look into documentation it is configurable thru outsite website only?

[RoadStress]

The SP20 from SP-Tech beats the the S4 hands down in all departments with p2pool. I am in the process of clearing out all of my Bitmain miners due to their lack of support generally as well as for p2pool, not to mention their constant stream of broken firmware releases. SP-Techs prices have also just been reduced - go for it.

Spondoolies are the new king 

But but... what about "BITMAIN announces Antpool: Pushing forward Decentralization" ?

[PatMan]

The SP20 from SP-Tech beats the the S4 hands down in all departments with p2pool. I am in the process of clearing out all of my Bitmain miners due to their lack of support generally as well as for p2pool, not to mention their constant stream of broken firmware releases. SP-Techs prices have also just been reduced - go for it.

Spondoolies are the new king 

But but... what about "BITMAIN announces Antpool: Pushing forward Decentralization" ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855548.msg9865648#msg9865648