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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2034376 times)
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December 04, 2014, 03:55:19 AM
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Is the reward to the miner or the nodes address? It's the miner right?
Reward goes to the miner.

I guess we could look at the code to find out but per https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool under the Payout logic section:

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A subsidy of 0.5% is sent to the node that solved the block in order to discourage not sharing solutions that qualify as a block. (A miner with the aim to harm others could withhold the block, thereby preventing anybody from getting paid. He can NOT redirect the payout to himself.) The remaining 99.5% is distributed evenly to miners based on work done recently.
The reward goes to the miner who found the block, not the node.  Trust me, I've not only looked at the code, but also have found a block and my miner was the one paid out, not my node's address.

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December 04, 2014, 04:02:26 AM
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I have a miner that runs continuously on the pool, but is has not processed a share since i rebooted the server do to having to move its location.  The block was found about 4am this morning and there was no pay ut to that miner, is that due to not finding a share, it is a older antminer s1 so kind of slow at 180gh

Your S1 has an expectation of 3.74 days to find a share at the current difficulty level.  Yeah... it's kind of rough.  As mdude77 wrote, a 1TH/s miner is pretty much the entry point to p2pool for expecting to regularly find shares and expecting to get a payout on every block found.  At 1TH/s, you would expect to find a share every 16 hours or so.

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December 04, 2014, 04:44:58 AM
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I have a miner that runs continuously on the pool, but is has not processed a share since i rebooted the server do to having to move its location.  The block was found about 4am this morning and there was no pay ut to that miner, is that due to not finding a share, it is a older antminer s1 so kind of slow at 180gh


It'll take a while at 180gh/s.  I'd argue that you should have at least 1 th/s to be on a conventional p2pool node.

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Rubbish...  You can get regular weekly payouts on P2Pool with as little as 10MH/s if you mine on NastyPool with the -PoP flag enabled.   Tongue

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December 04, 2014, 06:01:38 AM
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I have a miner that runs continuously on the pool, but is has not processed a share since i rebooted the server do to having to move its location.  The block was found about 4am this morning and there was no pay ut to that miner, is that due to not finding a share, it is a older antminer s1 so kind of slow at 180gh


It'll take a while at 180gh/s.  I'd argue that you should have at least 1 th/s to be on a conventional p2pool node.

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Rubbish...  You can get regular weekly payouts on P2Pool with as little as 10MH/s if you mine on NastyPool with the -PoP flag enabled.   Tongue
lol... you'll notice he wrote "conventional p2pool node".  10MH/s... you'd be better off hitting a faucet Smiley

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December 04, 2014, 10:29:09 AM
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hi
desided to give it a try, installed local behind NAT p2pool and run it ~2.78THs for a while to see
any recommendation welcome
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December 04, 2014, 11:26:23 AM
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I have a miner that runs continuously on the pool, but is has not processed a share since i rebooted the server do to having to move its location.  The block was found about 4am this morning and there was no pay ut to that miner, is that due to not finding a share, it is a older antminer s1 so kind of slow at 180gh


It'll take a while at 180gh/s.  I'd argue that you should have at least 1 th/s to be on a conventional p2pool node.

M

Rubbish...  You can get regular weekly payouts on P2Pool with as little as 10MH/s if you mine on NastyPool with the -PoP flag enabled.   Tongue
lol... you'll notice he wrote "conventional p2pool node".  10MH/s... you'd be better off hitting a faucet Smiley

Yes, I worded it that way intentionally. Smiley

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December 04, 2014, 04:02:10 PM
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I run a 180 ghz and a 1 th miner on the pool. until my next order.
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I have a miner that runs continuously on the pool, but is has not processed a share since i rebooted the server do to having to move its location.  The block was found about 4am this morning and there was no pay ut to that miner, is that due to not finding a share, it is a older antminer s1 so kind of slow at 180gh


It'll take a while at 180gh/s.  I'd argue that you should have at least 1 th/s to be on a conventional p2pool node.

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Rubbish...  You can get regular weekly payouts on P2Pool with as little as 10MH/s if you mine on NastyPool with the -PoP flag enabled.   Tongue

lol... you'll notice he wrote "conventional p2pool node".  10MH/s... you'd be better off hitting a faucet Smiley

Yes, I worded it that way intentionally. Smiley

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I did notice.  However, NastyPool is a default p2pool node.  It couldn't be more conventional. The addition of our optional payout method is done completely outside of p2pool software.  I think this is being lost on some folks.

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December 04, 2014, 08:08:37 PM
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I think this is being lost on some folks.

Maybe releasing the code would cure that?....... Wink

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Just an update folks...

For those of you that had supported CoinCadence's p2pool node by placing an ad or visiting an advertiser, thanks!

While the ads were bringing in a trickle of revenue, they are just not worth it for me to keep running (and I can't stand looking at banner ads either Wink ), soo...

Since bitcoin can bring so much to the table we thought we would try integrating with bitcoin micro-payment services (ChangeTip and CoinBase to start) and see how things go.

If you use the CoinCadence p2pool node, and like what you see consider sending a tip, if there is a feature your dying for send the suggestion with with a bigger tip  Grin...

Also, today we released a new Bitcoin Transaction Volume section on CoinCadence.com, it is in response to the great feedback we got on Reddit about some data mining I did on the blockchain.

You can see the post here:
TIL: Where the Bitcoins at… Mysteries of the Blockchain

The first iteration on the site only contains transaction volume data, more to come...

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December 05, 2014, 04:09:10 AM
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Might be worth while asking ckolivas if the S3 binary he done to fix the stale shares filtering can also be used in the C1? I don't have a C1, but it might be compatible......
If S3 binaries run on the C1, my binary is compatible.

Are the S3 binaries still needed with the latest firmware? I'm getting ~4% rejected and ~1.5% stale on my S3's with p2pool

Yes, I use it with the latest firmware:

http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/antminer/s3/4.6.1-141020/cgminer

Are there any other differences with this binary and the one bundled with the S3 firmware?
Any chance the S3 update from 20141126 has this update?
Is there a way I can check to see if it has the fix or not?

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December 05, 2014, 06:15:19 AM
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Hi,
I mine for 22 hours with 2,78THs, I got 2 shares, both orphan. I am extremely unlucky or something is wrong. Any recommendation what to check?
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December 05, 2014, 07:43:49 AM
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The GHS on my S3s went down to the double digits after loading the recent firmware update from Bitmain.  I have no idea if it's only an issue when running on p2pool or if it's across the board, I don't have any other kind of pools configured.  In any case I'd recommend some caution if you're looking at the 20141126 firmware.

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December 05, 2014, 10:10:16 AM
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Might be worth while asking ckolivas if the S3 binary he done to fix the stale shares filtering can also be used in the C1? I don't have a C1, but it might be compatible......
If S3 binaries run on the C1, my binary is compatible.

Are the S3 binaries still needed with the latest firmware? I'm getting ~4% rejected and ~1.5% stale on my S3's with p2pool

Yes, I use it with the latest firmware:

http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/antminer/s3/4.6.1-141020/cgminer

Are there any other differences with this binary and the one bundled with the S3 firmware?
Any chance the S3 update from 20141126 has this update?
Is there a way I can check to see if it has the fix or not?


According to their support site, the only difference is: "Modify the previous version cannot restore factory Settings bug." I have no need to restore factory settings at present, so I won't install it  Wink You can & should still use ckolivas's cgminer S3 binary with any/all firmware releases to ensure optimal efficiency with p2pool, until they can be bothered to fix the problem. You can also send ckolivas a donation as a thank you for his fixing Bitmains laziness..... Wink

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December 05, 2014, 10:10:52 AM
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Hi,
I mine for 22 hours with 2,78THs, I got 2 shares, both orphan. I am extremely unlucky or something is wrong. Any recommendation what to check?

Need more info dude - settings etc...... Wink

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December 05, 2014, 03:09:33 PM
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Ok I am wondering how does one determine what miner or if there pool found the block.

I have not figured that out yet. Smiley
2 ways...

First is to look at your logs and you'll see the message that the block was found.
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2014-04-26 04:18:51.302213 GOT BLOCK FROM MINER! Passing to bitcoind!

Second is to look at your payout.  If you found the block you get a 0.125BTC reward for it.

The reward for the block finder is 0.5%? I could've sworn I had read 5%. 0.5% does make more sense, though.
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December 05, 2014, 04:50:37 PM
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Might be worth while asking ckolivas if the S3 binary he done to fix the stale shares filtering can also be used in the C1? I don't have a C1, but it might be compatible......
If S3 binaries run on the C1, my binary is compatible.

Are the S3 binaries still needed with the latest firmware? I'm getting ~4% rejected and ~1.5% stale on my S3's with p2pool

Yes, I use it with the latest firmware:

http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/antminer/s3/4.6.1-141020/cgminer

Are there any other differences with this binary and the one bundled with the S3 firmware?
Any chance the S3 update from 20141126 has this update?
Is there a way I can check to see if it has the fix or not?


According to their support site, the only difference is: "Modify the previous version cannot restore factory Settings bug." I have no need to restore factory settings at present, so I won't install it  Wink You can & should still use ckolivas's cgminer S3 binary with any/all firmware releases to ensure optimal efficiency with p2pool, until they can be bothered to fix the problem. You can also send ckolivas a donation as a thank you for his fixing Bitmains laziness..... Wink

Thanks, what I meant to ask is, are then any differences in the ckolivas cgminer binary compared to the bitmain provided binary other than the previously mentioned stale share fix.  I think you won't think you have a need to factory reset until you have a need to factory reset.  I have put them all back on the October firmware, and installed the ckolivas cgminer, all are back and running fine now, and I think you're right, a donation is in order!

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December 05, 2014, 05:02:13 PM
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Ok I am wondering how does one determine what miner or if there pool found the block.

I have not figured that out yet. Smiley
2 ways...

First is to look at your logs and you'll see the message that the block was found.
Code:
2014-04-26 04:18:51.302213 GOT BLOCK FROM MINER! Passing to bitcoind!

Second is to look at your payout.  If you found the block you get a 0.125BTC reward for it.

The reward for the block finder is 0.5%? I could've sworn I had read 5%. 0.5% does make more sense, though.
Yup, you can verify it by looking at the code, too.  1/200 is given to address that finds the block, 99/200 is given to everyone else.  From data.py:
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amounts = dict((script, share_data['subsidy']*(199*weight)//(200*total_weight)) for script, weight in weights.iteritems()) # 99.5% goes according to weights prior to this share
this_script = bitcoin_data.pubkey_hash_to_script2(share_data['pubkey_hash'])
amounts[this_script] = amounts.get(this_script, 0) + share_data['subsidy']//200 # 0.5% goes to block finder

Jonny's Pool - Mine with us and help us grow!  Support a pool that supports Bitcoin, not a hardware manufacturer's pockets!  No SPV cheats.  No empty blocks.
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December 05, 2014, 09:05:34 PM
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Just an update folks...

For those of you that had supported CoinCadence's p2pool node by placing an ad or visiting an advertiser, thanks!

While the ads were bringing in a trickle of revenue, they are just not worth it for me to keep running (and I can't stand looking at banner ads either Wink ), soo...

Since bitcoin can bring so much to the table we thought we would try integrating with bitcoin micro-payment services (ChangeTip and CoinBase to start) and see how things go.

If you use the CoinCadence p2pool node, and like what you see consider sending a tip, if there is a feature your dying for send the suggestion with with a bigger tip  Grin...

Also, today we released a new Bitcoin Transaction Volume section on CoinCadence.com, it is in response to the great feedback we got on Reddit about some data mining I did on the blockchain.

You can see the post here:
TIL: Where the Bitcoins at… Mysteries of the Blockchain

The first iteration on the site only contains transaction volume data, more to come...

Cheers!
Hey windpath,

While I don't often use your node to mine (since I run my own node locally and also on a nearby VPS for when I travel), I do indeed use your services to do things like see payout history, compare my miners' actual hash rate to what p2pool thinks they have, etc.  I know you've done a lot of work and I've personally found great value in the services you've provided.  So, I thought I would be the first one to send you a tip/donation.

Thanks for all the work you've done.

Jonny's Pool - Mine with us and help us grow!  Support a pool that supports Bitcoin, not a hardware manufacturer's pockets!  No SPV cheats.  No empty blocks.
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December 05, 2014, 10:06:26 PM
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Hey windpath,

While I don't often use your node to mine (since I run my own node locally and also on a nearby VPS for when I travel), I do indeed use your services to do things like see payout history, compare my miners' actual hash rate to what p2pool thinks they have, etc.  I know you've done a lot of work and I've personally found great value in the services you've provided.  So, I thought I would be the first one to send you a tip/donation.

Thanks for all the work you've done.

Thanks buddy I appreciate it!

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